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Enterprise: Future Tense (spoilers)
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Posted by: JYoung

Well this episode had some interesting sequences but I'm not sure what the plot was.
Some notes:
Reed wasn't already carrying a phase pistol when examining an unknown ship? What if it had been a trap?
Ok, it's a TARDIS.
It was foolish to go down that shaft without telling anyone.
Hello, deploy the beacons Daniels gave you.
Oh now they transfer the ship to Vulcan ship to go back to Earth but they don't do it for the Suliban Cell ship?
They'll keep it to themselves about accessing Daniels database but leave the door to the quarters open!
Oh,gee, let's foreshadow the birth of Spock now.......
okay, TNG Cause and Effect anyone?
Why were the Tholians in this episode?
Why didn't the Future people grab the ship before the Enterprise did? After all, time is relative.

This could have been a very interesting episode. It looked nice and had a lot kewl action but what was the plot here?
Once again Archer's in over his head and has to say, "Please Mr. Nice Future/Alien man, save my ship. and like most Temperal Cold War episodes, our heroes wind up with egg on their faces.

However, this outing by Strong and Sussman was still better than the Beavis and Butthead issues.
Grade C

Posted by: tonyoci

jyoung I think there is just no pleasing you with this show especially the minor details. I would be interested in how TOS or TNG would hold up to such close scrutiny.

I thought this was a strong episode though it did suffer my favorite time travel flaw as stated by you;

"Why didn't the Future people grab the ship before the Enterprise did? After all, time is relative"

In fact why did they not just go back before whatever went wrong and not let it happen. That's always the flaw when fully developed time travel is included in any story. Nothing bad should ever happen because you just keep going back to fix it (the end of the movie 12 Monkeys dealt with this quite well).

As I said the show was appealing, my finger was not hovering over FF and all the characters acted well enough (it helps me when they keep Joshi (?) and Travis out of it). Although the very end was predictable events up until then proved interesting enough and suprising enough for my simple tastes.

T

Posted by: kiljoy

quote:
Originally posted by tonyoci
jyoung I think there is just no pleasing you with this show especiaaly the minor details. I would be interested in how TOS or TNG would hold up to such close scrutiny.

I thought this was a strong episode though it did suffer my favorite time travel flaw as stated by you;

"Why didn't the Future people grab the ship before the Enterprise did? After all, time is relative"

In fact why did they not just go back before whatever went wrong and not let it happen. That's always the flaw when fully developed time travel is included in any story. Nothing bad should ever happen because you just keep going back to fix it (the end of the movie 12 Monkeys dealt with this quite well).

As I said the show was appealing, my finger was not hovering over FF and all the characters acted well enough (it helps me when they keep Joshi (?) and Travis out of it). Although the very end was predictable events up until then proved interesting enough and suprising enough for my simple tastes.

T

The future people couldn't track the ship without a functioning temporal beacon. Once the beacon was active, they could take the ship. They couldn't go to a point before the beacon was activated, since the beacon shows them where exactly the ship is relative to time/space.

Also, IIRC, Spock was born of a human woman and a vulcan male.

Tony

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

I don't dislike this show, as Jyoung and so many others here do, but this one bothered me for one of the reasons he cites: the behavior of Trip and Reed while exploring the ship. Not checking in before going down the shaft was bad enough, but playing with the controls of a ship that is bigger on the inside than on the outside WHILE IN A SMALL CARGO BAY is the kind of thing for which they should be at the very least dishonorably discharged, if not outright shot. There is absolutely no reason why one of the controls they activated couldn't have returned the entire interior to our space, and destroyed Enterprise in the process.

Posted by: jones07

Let me start out by saying that I'm a fan of the show. I find it watchable. I Tend not to pick apart a show for minor details and can still enjoy them. So now that is out of the way. I have a question for you Hard to please fans. Have you found in the past 3 weeks, Enterprise have been getting better, more enjoyable more watchable ? *are you keeping the show on your Tivo's SP list ?

*Months back peeps was talking of removal of Enterprise from their SP.

Posted by: JorgeGVB

I think it is hard to have been a fan of Star Trek all these years to now go back in time for this series. I believe we all expect too much and they are trying to be very basic.

I'm not sure this series could ever be as good as the other ones, since our expectations are so high. Although, the new series would greatly benefit from better writers. Each episode seems to have so many holes and unanswered questions. Overall, the show is watchable, but you can't ask to many questions and enjoy the show. I can't imagine this series will last much more than another season.

Posted by: MGS1000

quote:
Originally posted by JYoung

Some notes:
Reed wasn't already carrying a phase pistol when examining an unknown ship? What if it had been a trap?

One funny thing about that scene: Why didn't they get Trip or another engineer to open up the ship? Instead they have the Weapons officer, and guess what his solution was? Shoot it open!!

Posted by: avaloncourt

I also had the 'Tardis' impression with this one. I even blurted it out when they realized it was bigger inside than out. Which brings me to the, 'we don't know what the heck is going on here but let's just go down there anyhow.' That was preceded by, 'Hand me something heavy so I can drop it on who knows what is down there.'

My last big complaint is thinking we have yet another Star Trek time line trashing. (I know this is a show about time travel) Wasn't the Tholian Web the first time humans came upon the Tholians? Suddenly here they are and T'Pol knows a reasonable amount about them and relays it.

Posted by: tonyoci

I am not sure this is on purpose but I think their disorganized and naive actions are well explained by the fact that they are the first humans to go on a space mission. Entering ships, trying things, shooting doors all seems to show inexperience which is what they have.

I do think the show has been much better over the last few weeks.

I repeat, watch some early TOS and look for the terrible inconsistencies in it and guess what I don't care. Let's just enjoy it (or not) for what it is.

T

Posted by: vertigo235

quote:
Originally posted by kiljoy
The future people couldn't track the ship without a functioning temporal beacon. Once the beacon was active, they could take the ship. They couldn't go to a point before the beacon was activated, since the beacon shows them where exactly the ship is relative to time/space.

Also, IIRC, Spock was born of a human woman and a vulcan male.

Tony

This is how I would explain it to. But I guess they could follow time back to where the ship was found.... Then again it may not work that way.

Then again, why couldn't they look at Enterprise's log and note the date and time it was found?

Anyhow the point is, get over it! I thought this show was OK, much better than most of the episodes.

Posted by: jimborst

quote:
I can't imagine this series will last much more than another season.

I really have to disagree here, remember the whole UPN network started around Enterprise, do you think they would cancel thier main show, even if it is not performing as expected.

As for the series, I look forward to each new episode, on Wednesdays it is the first thing I watch on my TiVo. I like it ALOT better than either DS9 and Voyager. DS9 (if I had my TiVo back then) would have had the season pass deleted (Found it to be the most boring ST ever) Voyager not much better.

Posted by: Fleegle

quote:
Originally posted by jimborst
I really have to disagree here, remember the whole UPN network started around Enterprise, do you think they would cancel thier main show, even if it is not performing as expected.

As for the series, I look forward to each new episode, on Wednesdays it is the first thing I watch on my TiVo. I like it ALOT better than either DS9 and Voyager. DS9 (if I had my TiVo back then) would have had the season pass deleted (Found it to be the most boring ST ever) Voyager not much better.

No, actualy, it started around Voyager, not Enterprise.

Posted by: Fleegle

quote:
Originally posted by tonyoci
I am not sure this is on purpose but I think their disorganized and naive actions are well explained by the fact that they are the first humans to go on a space mission. Entering ships, trying things, shooting doors all seems to show inexperience which is what they have.

I do think the show has been much better over the last few weeks.

I repeat, watch some early TOS and look for the terrible inconsistencies in it and guess what I don't care. Let's just enjoy it (or not) for what it is.

T

There are LOTS of Earth starships around. Hell, Travis was born in space and has lived his entire life off-planet. Enterprise is just for first ship to go out this far, because it's the fastest ship they've made so far.

Posted by: tonyoci

quote:
Originally posted by fleegle
There are LOTS of Earth starships around. Hell, Travis was born in space and has lived his entire life off-planet. Enterprise is just for first ship to go out this far, because it's the fastest ship they've made so far.

OK first Starfleet ship with high Warp capability. Travis has been pretty clear that working on the trading ships was nothing like Starfleet.

T

Posted by: Fleegle

quote:
Originally posted by tonyoci
OK first Starfleet ship with high Warp capability. Travis has been pretty clear that working on the trading ships was nothing like Starfleet.

T

I was only using Travis as an example. Starfleet has existed for some time at this point in "history". They should have protocols for just about every situation the ship should encounter. The only excuse is the one Malcom talked about in the minefield episode. Archer runs WAY too loose of a ship.

Posted by: tonyoci

quote:
Originally posted by fleegle
I was only using Travis as an example. Starfleet has existed for some time at this point in "history". They should have protocols for just about every situation the ship should encounter. The only excuse is the one Malcom talked about in the minefield episode. Archer runs WAY too loose of a ship.

"First Starfleet ship with high warp capability"

Perhaps Archer does run way to loose of a ship and that would be realistic, in today's world some things are run well and some are not. If he ran a perfect ship this might be a pretty boring show (of course some would say it already is but it would be worse)

T

Posted by: hckylvr88

quote:
Originally posted by MGS1000
One funny thing about that scene: Why didn't they get Trip or another engineer to open up the ship? Instead they have the Weapons officer, and guess what his solution was? Shoot it open!!

I was wondering the same thing. Gee....We don't have cutting torches in this century? We have to use phasers? Scotty would be appalled. The right tool for the right job!

Posted by: Dale Sorel

I didn't enjoy this episode as much as TNG with the repeating time loop (Crusher, Data, Worf, and Riker playing cards).

Posted by: JYoung

quote:
Originally posted by tonyoci
jyoung I think there is just no pleasing you with this show especially the minor details. I would be interested in how TOS or TNG would hold up to such close scrutiny.

TNG and TOS didn't have that problem because they were engaging drama. I started doing this because previous episodes had been so boring and I've noticed that the number of notes I take are proportional to how boring the show is.
It seems to be the only way I can find Enterprise mentally engaging. Didn't have this problem for TOS, TNG, or DS9
I also dislike it when the crew has to rely on a superior force to get them out of whatever situation they're in. They (the writers) could have at least let the warhead explode in the time ship. Nope, instead Archer has to hope that the Future people will save his ass instead of relying on his wits to survive. I can't see that happening to James Kirk.
I did give this episode a C which is a passing grade and when I do like things about an episode, I say so (ala Ceasefire) but the problem is that even the best that Enterprise offers is only average Star Trek.

quote:
Originally posted by jones07
I have a question for you Hard to please fans. Have you found in the past 3 weeks, Enterprise have been getting better, more enjoyable more watchable ? *are you keeping the show on your Tivo's SP list ?

*Months back peeps was talking of removal of Enterprise from their SP.

Enterprise used to be #3 in my SPM, it's now down to #17 and I have given serious thought to removing it entirely. I only watch it now as I'm a Star Trek whore. I probably wouldn't watch it the same night if I wasn't sure it was going to be discussed promptly in certain parts or in the seemingly vain hope that it will be an episodes that really makes me sit up ala The Measure of a Man, Duet, The Best of Both Worlds, Relics, The Inner Light, In the Pale Moonlight, Destiny...
In fact, I didn't get my TiVo so I wouldn't miss Enterprise. I got it so I wouldn't miss Buffy or Angel. I think that's telling right there,

quote:
Originally posted by JorgeGVB
I think it is hard to have been a fan of Star Trek all these years to now go back in time for this series. I believe we all expect too much and they are trying to be very basic.

Exactly. This is "just good enough" Trek or lowest common denominator Trek. Beavis and Butthead just don't care and it shows. Writing wise, Enterprise is getting blown out of the water by show like Stargate SG-1, Firefly, Smallville, Buffy, and Angel, not to mention the West Wing, the Sopranos, etc. Even bad ER is better than Enterprise. And there's no reason for this. Enterprise could be as good if the effort was made.

quote:
Originally posted by tonyoci
I am not sure this is on purpose but I think their disorganized and naive actions are well explained by the fact that they are the first humans to go on a space mission. Entering ships, trying things, shooting doors all seems to show inexperience which is what they have.
T

Sorry but Bull!!
It's one thing to be inexperienced, it's another to be blatantly stupid. Archer and Co. are supposed to be trained for this sort of thing. If I, at home couch potato, can see these things as they are, why can't Archer and Co. They're supposed to be Earth's "best and brightest". (No wonder the Vulcans think Humans are stupid).

quote:
Originally posted by tonyoci
Let's just enjoy it (or not) for what it is.

T

Well, that's the sort of attitude that got us into this mess and is killing Trek now. Accepting the mediocrity that Beavis and Butthead foist on us only encourages them to give us more mediocrity. Meanwhile the ratings slip as more and more of the core fans turn it off and why no one goes to see Nemesis at the theater so it tanks, losing out to "Maid in Manhatten".
We accepted the mediocre Voyager which beget the even more mediocre Enterprise which beget the extremely mediocre Nemesis, so where does it end? When there are no more fans left?

quote:
Originally posted by jimborst
I really have to disagree here, remember the whole UPN network started around Enterprise, do you think they would cancel thier main show, even if it is not performing as expected.

Actually, WWE Smackdown gets better ratings than Enterprise and probably costs less as well.
But UPN has other bigger problems to worry about.
http://www.trektoday.com/news/180203_01.shtml
I would think that being downgraded by Nielsen isn't going to make their day.

Oh, and another sign that Beavis and Butthead don't give a damn and/or are creatively bankrupt, for May sweeps they're resorting to their old tricks and bringing in the Borg
http://www.trektoday.com/news/200203_03.shtml

So much for "new and different"...... :rolleyes:

Posted by: tonyoci

JYoung, see my follow up to your post in my 1000 posts thread.

I do not think this is a great show but given that we have no new ST anywhere else I find it OK, I would not die if I could not see it. I believe that if we took any program and analyzed it to the degree you have this one then the same kind of faults could be found, but I understand your "not engaging drama" comment because it really is not.

Your response to my "lets just enjoy it for what it is" comment is interesting. If we like the show enough and prefer it to nothing what should we do, I doubt that writing to B&B would do any good and not watching it would cause it to go off the air and I would prefer that it be on the air. I believe I cannot influence the quality of the show so I accept it for what it is, I find that if I can suspend belief (which I have to do in A LOT of shows) then it's OK.

I guess I defend it to you well beyond how much I actually like it or care about it because you seem to be so hard on it.

Always fun talking with you.

T

Posted by: DaveLessnau

How could the Borg possibly have gotten to Earth a hundred years BEFORE Enterprise's era? I don't keep up on this stuff, but the earliest they could possibly be there is a couple of centuries AFTER Enterprise's era.

Posted by: jhausmann

quote:
Originally posted by DaveLessnau
How could the Borg possibly have gotten to Earth a hundred years BEFORE Enterprise's era? I don't keep up on this stuff, but the earliest they could possibly be there is a couple of centuries AFTER Enterprise's era.

Rent or Buy "First Contact".

Posted by: DLL66

It's a TV show for heaven's sake!! I think some of these people live THROUGH Star Trek!!!

Posted by: DaveLessnau

quote:
Originally posted by DLL66
It's a TV show for heaven's sake!! I think some of these people live THROUGH Star Trek!!!

It's the "TV Show Talk" forum for heaven's sake!! I think some of these people live THROUGH complaining about the very forum they're complaining in.

Posted by: jones07

quote:
Originally posted by DLL66
It's a TV show for heaven's sake!! I think some of these people live THROUGH Star Trek!!!

Yeah some people do go a bit overboard about these shows IMO. Overboard even for a TV show forum. But I guess that's what makes this forum fun. :p

*This is nothing compared to the Internet TV Newsgroups There people get down right nasty.

Posted by: Chandler Mike

quote:
Originally posted by DaveLessnau
It's the "TV Show Talk" forum for heaven's sake!! I think some of these people live THROUGH complaining about the very forum they're complaining in.

Nice one.

I'm also one of the "well, it's Trek, so I'll watch it" guys...I just can't help it. But this episode at least gave me some hope...it started out with a classic TNG type mystery before the break, and I thought the "bigger on the inside" was very, very cool.

However, a lot of the stuff you all say was right on...they just crawl down there without notifying anyone, their arses get saved by someone else, not them, etc.

And the whole thing about the Borg sounds interesting, but I hope it is somehoe based off First Contact or it will be too far-fetched.

Mike

Posted by: tonyoci

quote:
Originally posted by DLL66
It's a TV show for heaven's sake!! I think some of these people live THROUGH Star Trek!!!

I love these posts. If you're not interested in discussing this then why post. I spend about 15 minutes a day on here posting, some of that time spent on Star Trek, I love to debate and discuss things especially with someone with a vastly different opinion (hi there jyoung). I am happy with it, it does not consume my life, I think others enjoy the debate.

So leave us alone or I will travel to the future and get a DNA gun and go back to the past and blah blah blah to your parents etc. etc.

T

Posted by: bobcarn

What's "TARDIS"?

I enjoyed the episode, by the way. I didn't think it was great, but I thought it was pretty decent. My only complaint is that I HATE episodes dealing with time travel. They're too messy and open up too many cans of worms. But other than that, I liked the episode anyway. When Archer told Tripp to get the homing beacon activated so that maybe they can get some help, and Tripp replied that even if it was activated, it might be months or weeks before someone would respond, my initial thought was indeed exactly what turned out happening..... they would show up the moment the device was activated. I'm surprised that Archer didn't even say something to that effect. Something like "Seeing as those people mastered time travel, they have all the time in the universe to receive this and still arrive on time!" That part was kinda predictable when they indeed showed up immediately, but still didn't detract from the show.

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

The TARDIS (Time And Relative Dimensions In Space) was Dr. Who's time-space machine, which was huge on the inside and small on the outside. It was supposed to camaflouge itself to blend in with whatever environment it was in, but (fortunately for the BBC's FX budget) was stuck in the form of a police call-box.

Posted by: JYoung

quote:
Originally posted by Chandler Mike

And the whole thing about the Borg sounds interesting, but I hope it is somehoe based off First Contact or it will be too far-fetched.

Supposedly, this will be wreckage from the sphere that was blown up over Montana in First Contact. (I only read the teaser portion as I try to avoid spoilers)
Of course, you have to assume that the Picard and company are total idiots and don't bother to do a sensor sweep of Earth to make sure that no Borg debris hit Earth. I would think that Borg metals would stick out like a sore thumb on pre First Contact Earth for the Enterprise-E's sensors to find.
Of course, B&B may come up with a technobabble reason as to why it remained hidden... :rolleyes:

Posted by: Ereth

Nobody is talking about the Warp drive causing us problems with speed as they redefine Warp yet again? I had to pause my TV and yell at my screen over it. Somebody needs to shoot the writers.

Enterprise is travelling at "Maximum Warp" towards the Vulcan ship. T'Pol calls out that the ship is 600,000 kilometers away. Ok, math is easy here. We don't know what warp scale we are on these days, but we do know that Warp One is the speed of light, 186,000 miles per second, or 300,000 kilometers per second. At Warp One, 600,000 kilometers is two seconds. Warp Five would, therefore, be some measure faster, presumably less than a second (original TOS would put Warp 5 at 25c, so it would be 1/12th of a second, but we can't say with certainty which warp scale B&B are using).

Yet some minutes later, the Vulcan ship is still 200,000 kilometers away. ARRRRRGH!

Posted by: DLL66

Originally posted by DLL66
It's a TV show for heaven's sake!! I think some of these people live THROUGH Star Trek!!!
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I love these posts. If you're not interested in discussing this then why post. I spend about 15 minutes a day on here posting, some of that time spent on Star Trek, I love to debate and discuss things especially with someone with a vastly different opinion (hi there jyoung). I am happy with it, it does not consume my life, I think others enjoy the debate.

So leave us alone or I will travel to the future and get a DNA gun and go back to the past and blah blah blah to your parents etc. etc.

T

Bring it on!!!!! LOL

Posted by: Skittles

Personally, I found the episode to be quite enjoyable. I went in with no expectations and found myself pleasantly surprised. A welcome oasis of an episode amidst a season of otherwise bland offerings.

Is the show as high quality as the final years of DS9? Certainly not. But I don't think that the intention of the writers is to make a quality drama anymore.

Posted by: RGM1138

quote:
Originally posted by Ereth

Yet some minutes later, the Vulcan ship is still 200,000 kilometers away. ARRRRRGH!

Not even to mention that coming out of warp so fast is gonna smash the entire crew into molecules, since nobody's wearing seat restraints.

Yeah, I got your inertial dampeners. :)

Bob

Posted by: RGM1138

quote:
Originally posted by JYoung
Well this episode had some interesting sequences but I'm not sure what the plot was.
Some notes:
Reed wasn't already carrying a phase pistol when examining an unknown ship? What if it had been a trap?
Ok, it's a TARDIS.
It was foolish to go down that shaft without telling anyone.
Hello, deploy the beacons Daniels gave you.
Oh now they transfer the ship to Vulcan ship to go back to Earth but they don't do it for the Suliban Cell ship?
They'll keep it to themselves about accessing Daniels database but leave the door to the quarters open!
Oh,gee, let's foreshadow the birth of Spock now.......
okay, TNG Cause and Effect anyone?
Why were the Tholians in this episode?
Why didn't the Future people grab the ship before the Enterprise did? After all, time is relative.

This could have been a very interesting episode. It looked nice and had a lot kewl action but what was the plot here?
Once again Archer's in over his head and has to say, "Please Mr. Nice Future/Alien man, save my ship. and like most Temperal Cold War episodes, our heroes wind up with egg on their faces.

However, this outing by Strong and Sussman was still better than the Beavis and Butthead issues.
Grade C

Ya know, It's okay to vent here, but that's all it's going to be. You're just preaching to the choir.

If you're this passionate about ENT, I hope that you're forwarding all of your posts to TPTB at Paramount. Otherwise, how are they gonna know that anyone gives a rat's arse about the quality of the writing?

Bob

Posted by: WinBear

About 10-12 years ago, when I first started reading Star Trek forums online, there was a common acronym that summed it up perfectly.

YATI = Yet Another Trek Inconsistency

And now, thanks to Seinfeld, the vocally pronounced version should always be said three times. YATI, YATI, YATI.

Posted by: JYoung

quote:
Originally posted by RGM1138

If you're this passionate about ENT, I hope that you're forwarding all of your posts to TPTB at Paramount. Otherwise, how are they gonna know that anyone gives a rat's arse about the quality of the writing?

Actually, people over at the Trek BBS have been doing so. Some far more eloquently than I do.
Production crew from Enterprise do drop in there from time to time. I saw David A. Goodman posting there as well as Sussman.

TVGuide also ran an interesting article about the state of the franchise...
http://tvguide.com/features/startrek/lost.asp

also allowing reader feedback here:
http://tvguide.com/features/startrek/

mine's going in tonight......

Posted by: kb7sei

I certainly hope the Borg thing is just a rumor. The TNG crew nearly lost 1701-E to the Borg in "First Contact". Those Borg would lay waste to Earth in this time frame. Not to mention calling the collective of this time period in.

Am I the only one that thinks the Borg have been "pussyfied" more than enough now? When we first met them, they were this unstoppable force that could wipe out a FLEET of TNG era ships and assimilate entire planets. And now ENT era technology is supposed to defeat them? Yeah, right. Even one drone with technology from hundreds of years in the future would take over Earth without breaking a sweat.

This was a decent episode in a sea of mediocrity. I'm still watching, but not with nearly the interest I did when TNG was still first-run. I see ENT as yet another lost oppertunity thus far. VOY could have been awesome as well, but it ended up sucking 99% of the time. DS9 was okay most of the time, pretty good in the last couple years.

Posted by: tonyoci

There was always a flaw in the First Contact story (similar to any time travel story), if the Borg failed then all they have to do is keep sending cube's pack to the same or different times until it works. Perhaps the space/time laws as seen last week (by me) in the Time Machine would never allow the outcome to be changed.

T

Posted by: tonyoci

quote:
Originally posted by JYoung

TVGuide also ran an interesting article about the state of the franchise...
http://tvguide.com/features/startrek/lost.asp

That article seems pretty on the money to me, especially the part about improving the show and really especially the part about killing Hoshi (and throw in Travis while you're at it

I'm going to start a new thread.

T

Posted by: DLL66

quote:
Originally posted by tonyoci
I love these posts. If you're not interested in discussing this then why post. I spend about 15 minutes a day on here posting, some of that time spent on Star Trek, I love to debate and discuss things especially with someone with a vastly different opinion (hi there jyoung). I am happy with it, it does not consume my life, I think others enjoy the debate.

So leave us alone or I will travel to the future and get a DNA gun and go back to the past and blah blah blah to your parents etc. etc.

T

The same reason people continue to watch Enterprise and tear it apart. It's a decent show...............not the best, but it is watchable. I don't get into the deep detail. I just take it like it is.:D

Posted by: Family

I don't care how long it takes to go a killometer in a second or wheither they took phasers into the mysterious ship, but it did bother me when Archer burned off the entrance of a 31st century ship and passed through the small opening without any fear of being burned by hot metal. He even casually opened it with his hands (though there was some device assisting him), but he really wasn't careful about not getting scorched.

I agree that this show gets picked apart too much, but isn't this a little too sloppy?

Posted by: Haps

quote:
Originally posted by tonyoci

I do think the show has been much better over the last few weeks.

I concur. I have noticed a signifigant improvement ove rth elast 5 episodes or so. Maybe it's picking up steam. I hope so.

Posted by: Haps

quote:
Originally posted by JYoung

In fact, I didn't get my TiVo so I wouldn't miss Enterprise. I got it so I wouldn't miss Buffy or Angel. I think that's telling right there,

Yes quite telling indeed...

Posted by: DLiquid

quote:
Originally posted by jones07
I have a question for you Hard to please fans. Have you found in the past 3 weeks, Enterprise have been getting better, more enjoyable more watchable ?

Most definitely yes! I thought this episode rocked! Sure, some of the complaints in this thread are valid, but my expectancies for Enterprise aren't so high that I obsess over every small plot inconsistency. Really guys, it's like you don't realize these inconsistencies have been a fact of life in all Trek series. I think "Future Tense" was as good as any Voyager episode.

Two weeks of good Enterprise in a row? Definitely an anomaly. But I'm not afraid to say this show is good when it's good. I just hope it continues to be this good. I have the latest episode on TiVo ready to be watched, but I'm almost scared to watch it. After "Cease Fire" and "Future Tense" I'm thinking we're due for another stinker.