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What happened on Oprah today?!
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Posted by: dbyerman

From the Drudge Report today:

**DRUDGE LOOKING FOR READERS WHO SAW OPRAH'S WINFREY'S LIVE SHOW FROM CHICAGO TODAY [TUESDAY]. PLEASE EMAIL: DRUDGE@DRUDGEREPORT.COM...

Anybody know what happened?!

Posted by: dbyerman

To answer my own question, the Drudge website was updated.

The Queen of TV Talk Oprah Winfrey on Tuesday came out anti-war in a stunning hour-long broadcast 'Why Do So Many Hate the U.S.?'... MORE...

OPRAH SLAMS WAR: AMERICA WILL NOT FOLLOW THROUGH ON REBUILDING IRAQ

Guess I'll have to change my thumbs on Oprah to: :up: :up: :up:

Posted by: brettatk

Maybe they will drop a bomb on Oprah as well.

Posted by: kitsap

Cool. I may have to Tivo this.

Posted by: brahamt

I am still forming my opinion on what is going on with the war, but the thing that is troubling to me is that people seem to be hard on people voicing opposition to a war. This is especially true about people in the public eye.

I think it is brave of Oprah to do this. I want to hear her opinion, even if it differs from mine.

If we can't live in freedom, I don't care to live.

Of course, people are entitled to be hard on people with differing opinions, but it is a precedent that worries me.

Posted by: kyote

It goes both ways. You don't see the media showing people who support the war. They seem to focus on celebrities and riots where people oppose the war. The news media has been leaning to the left for a while and it become evident more and more every day. Thank goodness for Fox news.

quote:
Originally posted by brahamt
I am still forming my opinion on what is going on with the war, but the thing that is troubling to me is that people seem to be hard on people voicing opposition to a war. This is especially true about people in the public eye.

I think it is brave of Oprah to do this. I want to hear her opinion, even if it differs from mine.

If we can't live in freedom, I don't care to live.

Of course, people are entitled to be hard on people with differing opinions, but it is a precedent that worries me.

Posted by: cello

I've started watching Oprah a bit in the past month or so, something that I haven't done for a long time. When she is covering an interesting topic (unlike yesterday's The Bachelor and Joe Millionairre episode), I really enjoy her show. She has definite opnions that she voices very openly, but she also encourages free discussion by audience members. And it looks like audience members with opposing opinions do actually get to voice what they have to say.

Plus, after seeing what basically every other daytime talk show has turned into over the past several years, I have a lot of respect for Oprah for keeping her show at such a higher level. I even gave her a thumbs up recently. Thanks for the heads up on today's episode. I'll make sure to watch or tivo it!

Posted by: brettatk

I'll elaborate on my previous remark. I am just sick and tired of all these Democrats and Liberals non support of our country and our President. Take Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks for example. Saying she is ashamed of our President and that he is from Texas while on Foreign soil? I seriously hope they have ended their career. I'm still waiting for all those who said if George Bush wins the election they would leave the country (Michael Douglas, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Barbra Streisand come to mind).

The same people who are trashing our president and proclaiming Anti-War this time around were all for Clinton back in 97-98. It's sad when they have to pick a political platform to try and get the American people to not support their president. Saddam should have been taken care of long ago, I just hope they are successful in their attempt.

I do believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I just dont understand the lack of support for our president. All I can think of is that they are still bitter that Bush is President instead of lending their support in this crisis.

Posted by: DLiquid

quote:
Originally posted by brettatk
All I can think of is that they are still bitter that Bush is President instead of lending their support in this crisis.

That's just it, not everyone sees this as a crisis. And if it's not a crisis, then what exactly are we doing? The US will be setting a precedent for attacking a country as a preemptive measure against something that country may do in the future. Do we want countries like China using this precedent to attack and install governments in countries that they see as a threat?

Yikes, I'll stop now, because I don't want to debate here in the TV Show Talk forum! I think everyone is entitled to their opinions on these issues, Oprah included. Not everyone has to support the President, different people have different views and by sharing these views we can all learn.

IBTL!

Posted by: kyote

I agree. We may not always agree, but at least we have the right to share our opinion. :)

quote:
Originally posted by DLiquid

Yikes, I'll stop now, because I don't want to debate here in the TV Show Talk forum! I think everyone is entitled to their opinions on these issues, Oprah included. Not everyone has to support the President, different people have different views and by sharing these views we can all learn.

IBTL!

Posted by: tedder

brettatk, it's now Wrong(tm) to come out against the current president? Isn't that what makes this country free, is that people can agree (or disagree!) with the government?

-ted

Posted by: apagano

I just watched the show, and I would have to say that the headline "OPRAH SLAMS WAR" was WAY overstated. It was a little bit of "why they hate us" and a little bit of "what happens after Saddam is out of power?" She had two guests who debated not so much about the war itself but about how the U.S. should approach rebuilding Iraq once the war is over. Oprah didn't really have much to say about the war.

Posted by: dbyerman

quote:
Originally posted by apagano
I just watched the show, and I would have to say that the headline "OPRAH SLAMS WAR" was WAY overstated. It was a little bit of "why they hate us" and a little bit of "what happens after Saddam is out of power?" She had two guests who debated not so much about the war itself but about how the U.S. should approach rebuilding Iraq once the war is over. Oprah didn't really have much to say about the war.

You mean Matt Drudge exaggerated? Horrors! :eek:

Posted by: disco

And the story's disappeared from drudgereport.com....imagine that...:rolleyes:

Posted by: KLB

What I find the most disturbing is this idea that people who oppose the war are supporting Saddam Hussain. Or if you oppose the President's agenda you are "un-american".

HUH?

Or that if you oppose the war you are against all the men and women in uniform.

But what I find to be STUNNING and frightening as all hell is that because of his constant mentioning of September 11th in the same speechs in which he mentioned Iraq and Saddam that suddenly a high percentage of people seem to think that Saddam was somehow directly involved in the September 11th attack.

HUH ????

Good for Oprah. She's got nerve to voice her opinion and the opinion on a large percentage of this country and a majority of the people around the world.

Posted by: Todd

When would an Oprah show taped today actually be shown?

Posted by: KLB

It's aired today... I guess. On it Oprah mentions the "48 hour time limit".

The episode that is airing right now is about the war and the guests are talking about foreign policy and how the Muslem world views it as well as how this will end up in the future re: radicals using it to recruit and how this "regime change" will end up taking years and years and cost billions.

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edited after seeing the episode
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Having just watched it I think that you could say that Oprah didn't have an anti or pro-war opinion. She presented guests and commentary on how the US is seen among the Mulim world, opinions on how this war is going to play out and how the world is going to view the US.

Not a happy episode... pretty much paints a bleek future for how the US is going to be seen in the Muslim world and how this is likely to achieve one of Osama Bin Laden's goals: unit the Muslim world against the United States.

Posted by: Corey140

quote:
Originally posted by Todd
When would an Oprah show taped today actually be shown?

The same today. I think she is taped at 9 or 10 am and then it is uplinked to the local affilates for the 3 and 4 pm shows.

Posted by: TonyD79

quote:
Originally posted by KLB
But what I find to be STUNNING and frightening as all hell is that because of his constant mentioning of September 11th in the same speechs in which he mentioned Iraq and Saddam that suddenly a high percentage of people seem to think that Saddam was somehow directly involved in the September 11th attack.

Amen to that! Saw Chris Rock on Fox News over the weekend and when he was asked if we should invade Iraq because they attacked us on Sept 11, he didn't say "No, they didn't." Instead he made an analogy that was a decent argument but he allowed the mis-information about 9/11 and Iraq.

You know that there are equally bonafide terrorist connections to the W Bush campaign in funding and candidate appearances as there are to Iraq? Should we bomb the White House?

Posted by: zaknafein

quote:
Originally posted by KLB
What I find the most disturbing is this idea that people who oppose the war are supporting Saddam Hussain. Or if you oppose the President's agenda you are "un-american".

HUH?

http://www.pbase.com/image/14335923

I'm not saying everyone who opposes is, but clearly, there are a few.

Posted by: MalachiNY

Well .. who would of thought that the "POLITICS" &"WAR" dialougue would wind-up be discussed on a Oprah thread ...

Now, I am very political ... and I have my view!

BUT I also know that it takes a long time <longer than this thread will be on top> to convince people to change theair political or especially religious views. So I'll not try!

Ill leave you w/ 2 things tho ...

What if GORE was Pres? <shudder>

AND OPRAH DID MENTION TIVO AT THE END!!

Posted by: philw1776

What?
An entertainer using their TV exposure to expouse the liberal party line?
I'm shocked!
What's next? Maybe an alleged news "reporter" say like Dan Rather, finally spewing out his true ultra-liberal feelings in public.

Posted by: Ekims

Okay then, we are all in agreement.... All celebs should not voice their opinion of politics and war! Will somebody please tell Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Rielly to turn off their microphones! As a former right winger (I got smarter), I must say that we will continue to disagree about the justification of war with Iraq. I oppose the war and think that W. will go down in history as a President that was incapable of diplomacy. However, I support our troops and I support the idealogy of Freedom! I am an American!

Posted by: brettatk

quote:
Originally posted by Ekims
I oppose the war and think that W. will go down in history as a President that was incapable of diplomacy.

I have to disagree with that statement. We will see the nation's opinion of Bush when he is re-elected in 2004.

Posted by: Ekims

quote:
Originally posted by brettatk
I have to disagree with that statement. We will see the nation's opinion of Bush when he is re-elected in 2004.

Only because the Dems can't seem to nominate anyone worth voting for. Lieberman? Come on!!!

Posted by: KLB

quote:
I have to disagree with that statement. We will see the nation's opinion of Bush when he is re-elected in 2004.

LOL!! Thanks for the laugh.... that's a good one.

(no offence intended to you, just that if he is re-elected after the damage he's doing to this country I think it's time to have prozac added to the central water supplies)

Posted by: kyote

oh, rude personal attack ("I got smarter"). But, I'm Libertarian so I have no opinion.

jas

quote:
Originally posted by Ekims
Okay then, we are all in agreement.... All celebs should not voice their opinion of politics and war! Will somebody please tell Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Rielly to turn off their microphones! As a former right winger (I got smarter), I must say that we will continue to disagree about the justification of war with Iraq. I oppose the war and think that W. will go down in history as a President that was incapable of diplomacy. However, I support our troops and I support the idealogy of Freedom! I am an American!

Posted by: kyote

Because Dem's keep repeating the same old story over and over. If they'd quit trying to pour the divisive arguments on people maybe they'd listen. The only people who listen to them are people who want to feel disenfranchised. I'm so tired of hearing these old white guys complaining that other old white guys are only out for themselves. Hello, your a politician, your out for yourself too. Your no better then anyone else. I don't see you giving up your political kick backs and turning down money from PACs, lobbyists and other policitcal scum. As far as I'm concerned, Republicans and Democrats both suck equally. They all are full of lies and deceit and are only out for themselves.

quote:
Originally posted by Ekims
Only because the Dems can't seem to nominate anyone worth voting for. Lieberman? Come on!!!

Posted by: Ekims

quote:
Originally posted by kyote
oh, rude personal attack ("I got smarter"). But, I'm Libertarian so I have no opinion.

jas

Not meant to be rude. I used to listen to Rush, then I realized that he spoke half-truths and took almost everything out of context. I decided to investigate his position on certain topics and quickly was able to determine that he wasn't telling the truth. That is what I meant by getting smarter.

Posted by: pantherman007

quote:
Originally posted by KLB
But what I find to be STUNNING and frightening as all hell is that because of his constant mentioning of September 11th in the same speechs in which he mentioned Iraq and Saddam that suddenly a high percentage of people seem to think that Saddam was somehow directly involved in the September 11th attack.

HUH ????

Good for Oprah. She's got nerve to voice her opinion and the opinion on a large percentage of this country and a majority of the people around the world.

One of the more painful realizations after September 11 was that we had a lot of information, but weren't smart enough to connect all the dots and see what was about to happen. While there may not be a smoking gun connecting Saddam to September 11th, there certainly are dots to be connected. Ever see the satellite photos of the old 727 airframe parked outside of Bagdhad? I guarantee it's not there to train flight attendants.

Unlike the poor Iraqis (until next week, that is), Oprah's entitled to speak her mind freely. What amazes me are the celebrity activists getting offended when Drudge, Limbaugh, or the public in general respond in kind. If Oprah, Martin Sheen, and Natalie Maines are free to express their thoughts, then the public should be free to smash Dixie Chicks albums and tune out the West Wing, too. Freedom's a two-way street, and if they can't handle seeing their opinions criticized, then they should keep them out of public forums.

Posted by: KLB

Did you see the Oprah show we are talking about?

If you did, you would have seen that Oprah DID NOT specifically address her personal feelings on these issues but presented a show (for the most part) about how the US is viewed in the Muslim World and what this whole invasion of Iraq will likely do to our standing in it....

I don't recall Oprah saying a word pro or con on the issues other the bring out informative, knowledgable guests who talked about how we are perceived in the world and how this is a massive boost to recruiting among the radicals.

It was a really informative show and I'm not a regular Oprah watcher.... except when I know she's talking Tivo--- which she did at the end of the episode!

edited to take out the off topic part about how it is a massive stretch to try to connect Saddam with 9/11 --

Posted by: kyote

Fair enough. I apologize for taking your statement the wrong way. :)

quote:
Originally posted by Ekims
Not meant to be rude. I used to listen to Rush, then I realized that he spoke half-truths and took almost everything out of context. I decided to investigate his position on certain topics and quickly was able to determine that he wasn't telling the truth. That is what I meant by getting smarter.