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Survivor 4/10
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Posted by: Family

Really maybe the best episode of the show ever. You might not like Rob, but he does make it interesting........

Here's how they stand:

Jenna - Playing perhaps the best game any young female ever has during the series. That move to jump over with Alex was sweet. She now has Alex owing her big time (and I doubt he back stabs her) and Heidi as a follower. Jenna has stayed out of the limelight until now and made her move at the best possible moment.

Alex - In pretty decent shape as well. Choosing Jenna for coffee was a career move.

Heidi - Has lucked into choosing the right crowd to follow.

Rob - Not in the great position he was before, but is the remaining wildcard. Was forced to turn on his closest ally. He is fourth person out of the Jenna/Alex/Heidi/Rob group. Does he realize this? Should he organize Butch/Matt/Christy and con them into thinking that this was his strategy all along? That might be his best move now.

As far as I can tell Butch/Matt/Christy aren't really playing the game. Things are just happening to them. Next episode could be huge or might be nothing. It's really up to how Rob evaluates his new situation. This is at least the way I see it.

Posted by: TheDewAddict

I was SO glad to see Deena get the heave-ho. It's amazing to me that people have no clue what others think of them. Matt would have been voted out if he didn't have immunity, but he sat there and talked about how it was nice to have, but he didn't need it. Deena was confident enough that she didn't even try in the last round of the challenge, thinking she would be getting rid of Alex.

The funniest part of all? Heidi saying that her two big contributions to the tribe were her intelligence and her physical ability. Riiiiiiiiiiight. Heidi, if you're so intelligent, why are you a gym teacher?

Posted by: David Platt

I agree; it was a really great episode. Some really unexpected things happened, particularly with who was voted out.

Just a suggestion, Family-- you might want to go back and edit the title of the thread to indicate that there are spoilers here. :)

Posted by: cello

I am kind of disappointed that we see no "playing of the game" from Matt, Butch and Christy. But you know what, that doesn't mean that they're not playing. It just means that we don't see them playing. Maybe they really are asleep, but maybe it's editing. I would absolutely luuuuurve to see Rob alliance them up with them, and get rid of the silicone sisters. If Matt, Butch, and Christy are smart at all they will quickly woo Rob over. And he'll quickly accept. He's smart enough at this game to know that he doesn't have much of a chance with the evil "cute" alliance. (I do like Alex, btw, but if the evil alliance prevails I see him falling, too. The girls are going to want to be the last two standing. And if that happens, I will throw a bigger tantrum than I did when I saw !@#$% Flo win TAR.)

Posted by: Family

quote:
Originally posted by DPlatt
Just a suggestion, Family-- you might want to go back and edit the title of the thread to indicate that there are spoilers here. :)

Done... thanks, though this spoiler thing has me scratching my head. How could you talk about an already shown episode without there being spoilers?

Posted by: KRS

Deena's end comments were super funny - something like "You all will have to live with that decision for the rest of your lives."

--First off, Deena, why on earth would they be upset for the rest of their lives that they voted you off?

--And secondly, isn't it you who will have to live with giving up on the immunity challenge. Her cockyness finally did her in.

I am waiting for Deena to deliver a Susan Hawk-esque diatribe against Rob in the final episode.

I also was amused by Heidi's intelligence and athleticism comments. Sorry Heidi, but your two biggest assets are right in front of you!

Rob is really going to have to scramble at this point. His fake alliance with Matt (and Butch) may wind up turning into a real one...although I wonder how much Butch is just playing along with Matt. Those scenes in the canoe where psychoMatt was saying stuff like "end communication" were surreal, and surely Butch is smart enough to take it all with a block of salt.

Posted by: KRS

quote:
Originally posted by Family
Done... thanks, though this spoiler thing has me scratching my head. How could you talk about an already shown episode without there being spoilers?

Because some people still have the episode waiting on their TiVO hard drive - unwatched. Of course those people should not be reading threads about the show, but it is stilll a nice courtesy to warn them....

Posted by: DLiquid

Yes, Heidi's intelligence! That must be why she couldn't even spell Deena correctly. She spelled it "Denna." Classic!

What surprised me the most about this episode was Christy. I had kind of thought Christy was in an alliance with Butch, but that is not the case. Christy was there in almost every scene where Deena and Rob discussed their plans, and Christy was the only one other than Deena to vote for Alex. She appears to be almost as clueless as Matt. She needs to start playing the game.

And Matt, yes he seems a little weird but I'm getting annoyed by people saying they think he's dangerous. We've seen nothing to indicate this guy could go postal, and it seems unfair for them to keep harping on that he's unstable, since he appears to be very stable. Clueless yes, psycho no.

Rob is no longer in a power position, I agree with you guys that he should form an alliance with Matt, Butch, and Christy. Even if he does that, I think he's screwed in the long run, although he could make the final four.

Butch is the biggest threat, IMO. I see him going very far. He flies under the radar, is not a physical threat, and is a nice guy.

I think the Alex, Jenna, Heidi connection is toast. Rob might be goofy, but he has played the game well so far, and I think he's smart enough to realize he'd be at the bottom of that group. At least in the Butch, Christy, Matt group, he'd be above Matt, and with an immunity in the final three could worm his way into the final two with either Butch or Christy. Rob might be able to win against Butch, but against Christy he wouldn't stand a chance.

Posted by: Chris Roberts

I'm sooooo glad Deena got the boot. I was sick of hearing her hypocritical bragging. She really let her ego get too big and when she said she wanted Alex to go. They showed Heidi's face for a moment in that scene and it was obvious that Heidi just turned against Deena. Deena and Rob claimed they had a secret alliance, but they showed in that scene that they considered themselves the leaders of their alliance and the ones making all the decisions. Plus, Rob can't shut up about how he's playing Matthew and Butch and I can easily see that coming back to haunt him.

I haven't gotten the impression at all that Matthew is "psycho". I think that's just Rob's inferiority complex spreading that around. If I'm sitting around sharpening a machete (which you do need to do if you're actually using it) then I'd be the same way as Matthew. Some people find simple tasks like that relaxing and can zone out. Doesn't mean their plotting to murder everyone.

Its nice that Jenna chose to keep the good-looking guy who took her for coffee around rather than backstab him, but she'll never live down her blabbing to Dave when they were alone together. In my opinion, she's just lucky with her choices rather than being a smart strategist.

The Heidi/Jenna/Alex alliance seems really solid. I don't think they hold any allegiance to Rob beyond using him for the majority though.

Posted by: Skittles

I honestly think Rob shot himself in the foot here. He's going to be picked off by the Alex/Heidi/Jenna alliance soon, and probably won't make it to the final four. In the unlikely event he does, he has no chance of winning. He's doublecrossed too many potential members of the jury at this point.

I see Christy as playing the game "under the radar". She's definitely doing her best to just blend in, and let the politics take care of her competition.

Posted by: DLiquid

From last weeks thread:

quote:
Originally posted by hookbill
Survivor is my favorite "reality show", it's actually the only one I give a damn about but it seems to me that the show is starting to get a little stale. I don't think the problem is really with the show itself, I think it's just this group of people. I find it all too predictable. And I'll be very surprised if Rob and Dena are not the last two left.

quote:
Originally posted by DLiquid
I doubt Rob and Deena will even both make it to the final four. I don't expect things to be predictable at all. If things are so predictable, tell me who will be voted off next week? :)

Sorry, I couldn't resist :D. I agree the show can be predictable sometimes, but it's definitely not "too predictable." I think they do a good job of editing it to make it just predictable enough to make you think you know what's going on, which is a very clever way of doing things.

Posted by: Family

quote:
Originally posted by DLiquid
What surprised me the most about this episode was Christy. I had kind of thought Christy was in an alliance with Butch, but that is not the case.

One week... I think it was the one when the boys believed it was the men VS the women... Butch voted for Christy so I don't know who she is aligned with. I can't remember anyone going this far without one person who is an ally. Could Rob have approached Christy and asked her to vote for Alex so that it would appear to Deena that someone voted with her? Could Rob have set up an alliance with Christy to fake out Jenna/Alex/Heidi and thereby set himself up for the final three with Butch and Christy? With Deena gone... it's possible and now there is the shadow of doubt that he didn't abandon Deena.......................

Posted by: KRS

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Roberts
I haven't gotten the impression at all that Matthew is "psycho". I think that's just Rob's inferiority complex spreading that around. If I'm sitting around sharpening a machete (which you do need to do if you're actually using it) then I'd be the same way as Matthew. Some people find simple tasks like that relaxing and can zone out. Doesn't mean their plotting to murder everyone.

True, it is all in the editing, but they did say that Matt sat around sharpening the blade for long periods of time (an hour or more?). Plus his conversation last night with Butch in the canoe was pretty odd, and he has a bit of a crazed look. But I agree that Rob and the others are making it a bit too dramatic with the fearing for their lives bit. He is probably just not dealing with the hunger and the elements as well as the others...

Posted by: betamax

I loved the 'spy' theme going on here. "This conversation did not happen." "You'll get your information only from me."

Matthew made it sound like the fate of civilization rested on his shoulders the way he was talking with Butch.

And the background music during those scenes added to it.

Posted by: Chandler Mike

I agree with all of those that think Rob shot himself in the foot. He had total control of Butch and Matt, he could have easily voted off Alex and probably made it to the end with Deena. Dumb move IMO.

So why would he do it? My wife had an interesting idea about that...Rob seems to talk like he was the guy in high school who was the geek, the nerd, never good with girls or the in crowd.

Suddenly, with this vote, he's in with the "cool" group of Heidi, Jenna and Alex...very interesting. Maybe he let that cloud his judgement.

Also, I liked Deena, no matter how cocky she was. Everyone gets cocky on that show. I loved Richard from the first season because he played the game very, very well. But he was as cocky as anyone. Deena played well, played smart, and I was hoping to see her go all the way.

Unlike Christy, Matt and Butch, who seem to not even be playing. Butch just fishes all day, doesn't even seem interested in making alliances or trying to get to the end.

Mike

Posted by: David Platt

quote:
Originally posted by Family
Done... thanks, though this spoiler thing has me scratching my head. How could you talk about an already shown episode without there being spoilers?

Thanks! As someone else pointed out earlier, it's mainly as a courtesy to those who haven't watched it yet.

As an example, It's quite possible somebody could start a thread with the title "Survivor 4/10" but actually have their initial post be about missing the 4/10 episode and needing a copy. It would be perfectly safe for someone who hadn't watched the show yet to enter this thread, because nobody's actually talking about what went on in the actual show. By putting SPOILERS in the title, you're letting others know not to enter the thread if they don't want to find out what happened.

Posted by: debtoine

quote:
Originally posted by DLiquid
Yes, Heidi's intelligence! That must be why she couldn't even spell Deena correctly. She spelled it "Denna." Classic!

When they voted off Jeanne, she spelled it Gene, which is generally how men with this name spell it.

I think she's been hit in the head with too many hard balls in gym class.

d

Posted by: sbourgeo

quote:
Originally posted by KRS
True, it is all in the editing, but they did say that Matt sat around sharpening the blade for long periods of time (an hour or more?). Plus his conversation last night with Butch in the canoe was pretty odd, and he has a bit of a crazed look. But I agree that Rob and the others are making it a bit too dramatic with the fearing for their lives bit. He is probably just not dealing with the hunger and the elements as well as the others...

I think they are over-playing it a bit, but I thought that it was a bit strange that Matt was immediately proficient with all three of the weapons used in the reward challenge and most of the others couldn't do much of anything (with the exception of Alex).

Steve

Posted by: marksman

I disagree with Rob shooting himself in the foot. Yeah Deanna was his closest ally, but at this point it does not matter to Rob. Rob is probably the safest person on the island. He has pretty decent relationships with eveyrone and he is not really considered a threat.

I think trying to have kept Deanna on would have exposed him and put his position in serious jeopardy. No way he could have done anything to save Deanna without making others suspect of him. Fact is he has Heidi, Jenna and Alex think he is one of them to the final 4. He has Matthew and Butch on a super agent string, and Christy is the wildcard.

Apparently Christy was left totally out of the loop. The only person to vote for Alex besides Deanna, she parroted Deanna's words almost exactly when she voted. Apparently nobody cared enough to include her in any further discussions.

But right now, she is key. If someone can enlist her to help make a move they have a chance of taking control of things. Fact is Heidi and Jenna are too skittish to be long-term threats in immunity challenges, and Jenna does not really have the heart to play this game as it needs to be played.

Rob needs to make a play to get rid of Alex next without the girls knowing it was him who orchestrated it. If he can pull it off, I think he is in a prime position to win the game.

Remember one thing about Rob, Rob on TV is not Rob on Survivor. He does not insult or belittle those around him in the game. They all like him, they all like being around him. Without him doing something incredibly stupid, I don't see him being voted off for a while.

Posted by: sbourgeo

quote:
Originally posted by debtoine
When they voted off Jeanne, she spelled it Gene, which is generally how men with this name spell it.

I think she's been hit in the head with too many hard balls in gym class.

She has really said a bunch of dumb things from the beginning that make her seem like an idiot. I must admit that she did make a good point that they should get rid of Roger since he would never select a female winner if he was on the jury.

I have no idea why she has such an inflated image of herself?? Perhaps that's why she had her chest inflated too... ;)

Steve

Posted by: jhausmann

quote:
Originally posted by Family
Really maybe the best episode of the show ever. You might not like Rob, but he does make it interesting........

As far as I can tell Butch/Matt/Christy aren't really playing the game. Things are just happening to them. Next episode could be huge or might be nothing. It's really up to how Rob evaluates his new situation. This is at least the way I see it.

Rob's a pinhead, the best he can do, without help for immunity, is 4th. Had he stuck with Deanna, he could've gone to the top 2. If he doesn't rectify it next week, he won't have a chance to later (use Butch, Christy, Matt to get rid of Alex). If Rob's plying to win, he has to take out Alex or Heidi next week.

Heidi's no better. In tribal council, she said she brings two things to the tribe, her brains (since when are they packing 'em in fake boobs?) and her physical abilities...

The whole tribe's one of the largest collection of idiots I've ever seen, let's get rid of our food source by voting off Matt?

Posted by: jhausmann

quote:
Originally posted by Family
Really maybe the best episode of the show ever. You might not like Rob, but he does make it interesting........

As far as I can tell Butch/Matt/Christy aren't really playing the game. Things are just happening to them. Next episode could be huge or might be nothing. It's really up to how Rob evaluates his new situation. This is at least the way I see it.

Rob's a pinhead, the best he can do, without help from immunity, is 4th. Had he stuck with Deanna, he could've gone to the top 2. If he doesn't rectify it next week, he won't have a chance to later (use Butch, Christy, Matt to get rid of Alex). If Rob's plying to win, he has to take out Alex or Heidi next week.

Heidi's no better. In tribal council, she said she brings two things to the tribe, her brains (since when are they packing 'em in fake boobs?) and her physical abilities...

The whole tribe's one of the largest collection of idiots I've ever seen, let's get rid of our food source by voting off Matt?

Posted by: KRS

quote:
Originally posted by Chandler Mike
Also, I liked Deena, no matter how cocky she was. Everyone gets cocky on that show. I loved Richard from the first season because he played the game very, very well. But he was as cocky as anyone. Deena played well, played smart, and I was hoping to see her go all the way.

I don't think Deena played smart. In the immunity challenge from a couple episodes ago (where the sticks and twigs stripped for peanut butter), she made some comment that she didn't mind not getting immunity since she lasted longer than Roger. That was a pretty boneheaded move.

Plus she made the mistake of actually believing what other people told her. She relied too much on Rob, and blindly accepted what Jenna told her (before the pinkie swear) even though it was fairly obvious that Jenna was being a bit cagey and noncommital. And of course not even trying to eat the final bug in the Fear Factor Immunity challenge...well that speaks for itself. Too cocky for her own good.

...oh, and I thought Alex's comment during the voting (about how he'd love to face her in court because she was probably the worst lawyer ever) was pretty dang funny. Ouch! Not to mention his comment to Jenna that she was only 3 years older than him. She really does seem more like 10 years older.

Posted by: natamatt

When Heidi made the comment about bringing brains and physical abilities to the group, I just about died laughing when they quickly cut to Alex rooling his eyes.

Right now I think Rob and Christy are the wildcards. I see the final three as either Alex, Jenna and Heidi or Butch, Matt and Rob or Christy.

Posted by: Vox Acerbus

just once i would like for the final vote of the final two to be held off until the live show. how great would that be?

send everyone home and on the day of the live broadcast, after they've had a chance to watch, have them vote for which of the two survivors wins.

Posted by: cello

eh, I definitely don't want that to happen. The game is about surviving in the wilderness with a specific group of people. If the final vote happened after they went home and saw all the episodes (which I'm sure are not always accurate descriptions of the goings-on at the camps, thanks to editors), it's not longer survivor. It's a game that involves the media and friends and family's opinions, discussion boards like this, etc.

And truthfully, if they did that for this season of Survivor, the future seaons will turn out to be really boring. Everybody will be on their best behavior and quite reluctant to do any of those interesting one-on-ones with the camera. They'll be too scared that whatever they say in private will come back to bite them in the butt if they make the final two. I think that the producers would be shooting themself in the foot if they allowed any voting to take place after the show has started to air.

Posted by: Sarahbelle18

Rob has got to get rid of Alex if he wants to have a chance. Since Matt, Butch and Christy don't seem able to think for themselves, Rob should align with them and pick off Alex, Heidi, and Jenna (in that order).

Posted by: fdg99

ROB IS A MORON!!! Why do they keep giving him so much air time?!?!

Posted by: Sarahbelle18

quote:
Originally posted by fdg99

ROB IS A MORON!!! Why do they keep giving him so much air time?!?!

I think he's the most entertaining.

Posted by: Chris Roberts

fdg99, how about some spoiler tags on that. Some people purposely didn't read that article... Thanks. :)

Posted by: TreborPugly

quote:
Originally posted by Chandler Mike
I agree with all of those that think Rob shot himself in the foot. He had total control of Butch and Matt, he could have easily voted off Alex and probably made it to the end with Deena. Dumb move IMO.

Well, regardless of his claims to control Matthew and Butch, he would probably have had a hard time getting Matthew to vote for Alex this early. It was EASY to get both Matthew and Butch to vote for Deena. Any move that keeps you in easy agreement with the majority of people is good. As soon as you start dividing it up too equally, there can be multiple re-organizations. (Sean and Vicepia...)

Treb

Posted by: Bryanmc

quote:
Originally posted by fdg99
Why all the speculation?!?! Everyone knows that the last two will be...

Uncool dude.

:mad:

Posted by: Chris Roberts

Rob is a moron if he thought Deena was going to hold to their alliance. She wanted all girls in the final and she did show that she had no problems backstabbing an ally when she suggested getting rid of Alex. The only reason her and Rob allied in the first place was out of desperation. A situation neither of them was in any longer since the tribes merged.

Posted by: TreborPugly

quote:
Originally posted by KRS

...oh, and I thought Alex's comment during the voting (about how he'd love to face her in court because she was probably the worst lawyer ever) was pretty dang funny. Ouch! Not to mention his comment to Jenna that she was only 3 years older than him. She really does seem more like 10 years older.

Actually, I think he said she was the worst "liar" ever. He has no basis to judge how good a lawyer she is. But if she did lie in court, he's saying he'd know it

Treb.

Posted by: jeff125va

quote:
Originally posted by Sarahbelle18
Rob has got to get rid of Alex if he wants to have a chance. Since Matt, Butch and Christy don't seem able to think for themselves, Rob should align with them and pick off Alex, Heidi, and Jenna (in that order).

Great point. And perhaps that's what he was thinking and why he chose to vote off Deena. I think he'd be in better control with Deena out of the picture. However, he's probably already lost Deena's vote were he to make the final two, and he could pretty much guarantee losing Alex, Jenna and Heidi's votes as well with that strategy. Although he is pretty well liked, if he doesn't make it obvious that he's orchestrating it he could be ok.

Posted by: fdg99

quote:
Originally posted by Bryanmc
Uncool dude.

:mad:

My apologies. I thought that in a spoiler thread it was OK. My mistake. I have removed the comment...

:o

Posted by: betamax

quote:
Originally posted by natamatt
When Heidi made the comment about bringing brains and physical abilities to the group, I just about died laughing when they quickly cut to Alex rooling his eyes.

That was just classic.

And regarding when the voting should occur, it also shows why they should vote before the TV show runs. People would be so stonefaced and have such boring comments if they knew the jury members would see the show before voting. They wouldn't speak their mind or give any insight as to what's going on. That's how the winners on Big Brother play.

Posted by: Bryanmc

quote:
Originally posted by fdg99
My apologies. I thought that in a spoiler thread it was OK. My mistake. I have removed the comment...

:o

It's okay, thanks for taking it out.

I've tried in the past to work up a comprehensive spoilers FAQ, but people don't seem to read simple FAQs so a detailed one wouldn't be of much use.

As a general rule a thread marked "spoilers" is only spoiling that which the topic is about. In this case the Survivor episode from 4/10. Nothing more. Anything beyond that show is considered spoiler material and should be tagged.

Posted by: KRS

quote:
Originally posted by TreborPugly
Actually, I think he said she was the worst "liar" ever. He has no basis to judge how good a lawyer she is. But if she did lie in court, he's saying he'd know it

Treb.

Liar...lawyer...same thing!

I thought I heard "lawyer" since he had said something about facing her in court.

Posted by: jradosh

quote:
From KRS
...oh, and I thought Alex's comment during the voting (about how he'd love to face her in court because she was probably the worst lawyer ever) was pretty dang funny.

I thought he said "worst liar"... not that that makes it any less funny :p

Posted by: okleydokley

quote:
Heidi (you know the one with all the athleticism and intelligence)
"Do I put my mouth around the whole thing?"

Well yes you do sweetie. Then, when you finish with that, you get me another beer.

Posted by: KRS

Hahahaha. I know! How could Rob pass up that opportunity? Or maybe his comment was too close to yours to air in primetime.

Posted by: JohnJr

hahaha Okley!

My favorite part from last night was watching Christys face as she struggled to down those bugs. At one time, it looked like she fought it down once, and then, up it came again. Big time! She almost loses it, but then she catches herself again and breaks out in this cute smile. A what the heck am I doing this for, smile! I replayed that a billion times. She's really growing on me. Funny girl. :)

-John

Posted by: Philosofy

Actually, smiling suppresses the gag reflex. I learned that from CSI. (No toasters for me, thanks.)

Posted by: KLB

Christy has become my favorite player this time and possibly someone who could come in under the radar.

When Rob gets his... it's going to be so great.

Either that or he's going walking out of the studio with big check and the other players are going to beat the hell out of him in the parking lot for everything he's said about them.

Posted by: marksman

quote:
Originally posted by KLB
Either that or he's going walking out of the studio with big check and the other players are going to beat the hell out of him in the parking lot for everything he's said about them.

Yeah I am not sure I remember a reality show contestant who has been more consistently two-faced than Rob. He is definately going to get a lashing.

That alone will make it worth watching the Reunion show.

Posted by: jeff125va

quote:
Originally posted by marksman
Yeah I am not sure I remember a reality show contestant who has been more consistently two-faced than Rob. He is definately going to get a lashing.

That alone will make it worth watching the Reunion show.

Yeah, he probably will, but why should he? If someone bluffs you in poker, do you call him two-faced and unethical? It's a game. There's absolutely nothing wrong with deceiving people in the context of the game. Just because they interact and friendships develop or whatever, they're still playing a game. Now, if the jurors want to hold it against someone in the final vote, that's fine, but to hold it against them after the game is over, I see absolutely no reason for that.

(Marksman, I'm not saying that you've said as much as I've commented on, just responding to that point in general.)

Posted by: TreborPugly

And, unlike some previous back-stabbers in Survivor, Rob hasn't gone on and on about loyalty with his co-conspirators. He just tells them he's with them, or discusses who should go next. He's done a very good job of keeping this friendly. He hasn't taken any alliance changes personally. This is the biggest problem the "honest, trustworthy" folks have. They inevitably change their position, and try to rationalize it by complaining that someone else turned on them...

Treb.

Posted by: cello

Good point.

Plus, he doesn't seem like the kind of guy who is such an ass in real life. I mean, he has said mean things about others, but they have often just been blatant statements of the truth (sticks and twigs), or statements of his own horniness. I just wanted to wring Brian's (S5) neck the whole time. Rob is annoying, but I don't feel that urge to perform violent acts on him. He's clueless to annoying social habits, and socially inept with the girls, but he's not an a-hole outside of the game.

Posted by: DLiquid

I think Rob is fairly entertaining, but I definitely think he's an a-hole outside of the game. What we see on the show is probably exactly the kind of person he is in real life: nice to people when he's around them but then talking major smack about them behind their backs. I wouldn't be surprised if he catches a beatdown in the reunion show :D, he really has been throwing major personal insults at most of the other male contestants.

Posted by: Chris Roberts

We are definitely seeing Rob's real personality here. Lack of food and sleep coupled with mental stress tends to bring out the real personality underneath. In fact according to his bio on the official website: "He believes he is a master strategist that is always pulling shenanigans on people who suspect he's just an innocent kid." So basically he's normally lying to people and laughing behind their backs.

Amusingly it says below that: "If he could hold any office, he'd like to be member of Congress because "it looks like they can do anything they want with no repercussions.""
This comment and watching him on the show just reminds me of why jerks like him should never have any power in real life.

Posted by: TivoDaddy

quote:
Originally posted by KLB
When Rob gets his... it's going to be so great.

Either that or he's going walking out of the studio with big check and the other players are going to beat the hell out of him in the parking lot for everything he's said about them.

Well, he's so worried that he is going to be killed by Psycho-Matt in the jungle, that he's not thinking about is that Matt's watching this now and seeing all that Rob's been saying behind his back. Should be a fun reunion show! :D

Posted by: Bryanmc

quote:
Originally posted by TivoDaddy
Well, he's so worried that he is going to be killed by Psycho-Matt in the jungle, that he's not thinking about is that Matt's watching this now and seeing all that Rob's been saying behind his back. Should be a fun reunion show! :D

Can't you just see Matt sitting in a dark room, sharpening his machete while watching Rob?

:D

Posted by: Chris Roberts

Who is hosting the Reunion this time?

Posted by: DLiquid

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Roberts
Who is hosting the Reunion this time?

Hopefully Jeff Probst. Didn't he do it last time? Please, no "celebrity" hosts... please....

Posted by: Bryanmc

quote:
Originally posted by DLiquid
Hopefully Jeff Probst. Didn't he do it last time? Please, no "celebrity" hosts... please....

Yes, he did do it last time, FINALLY!

He should have had it from the beginning.

Posted by: uncdrew

Yes, Rob is so wanting to be with the popular kids. It's kind of sad, especially when there will come a time when they vote him off just because he's really not in their group.