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Queer eye for the straight guy
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Posted by: mrpurple

Just saw a preview for this new reality show on Bravo. A bunch of gay men pick straight guys off the street and give them makeovers. Looks funny. In a cheeseball kind of way.

Posted by: mitchrc

It's got a Season Pass from me. I recommend more reading about metrosexuals.

Posted by: Ekims

I'm not the ultra sensitive type that wants to wage war against the politically incorrect. However, I am slightly offended by this program. It suggests that if you are straight, you don't know how to decorate, dress or cook. I would think that homosexual individuals would be equally upset at the broad brush stroke that depicts them as sissy hair dressers and fashion icons. I don't want to start a big flame war regarding this, just wanted to inform you of my opinion.

Posted by: aadam101

I agree Ekims but I think I'll watch an episode before I comment.

Posted by: mitchrc

quote:
Originally posted by Ekims
I'm not the ultra sensitive type that wants to wage war against the politically incorrect. However, I am slightly offended by this program. It suggests that if you are straight, you don't know how to decorate, dress or cook. I would think that homosexual individuals would be equally upset at the broad brush stroke that depicts them as sissy hair dressers and fashion icons. I don't want to start a big flame war regarding this, just wanted to inform you of my opinion.

Well then! You just head on over to the Pottery Barn. They'll help you out. ;)

Posted by: Animgif

quote:
Originally posted by mitchrc
Well then! You just head on over to the Pottery Barn. They'll help you out. ;)

LOL - Wow...thanks for starting my morning off right!

I normally get a little offended by shows that stereotype...but it looks like it will be all in good fun. The commercials make it seem like (as we all do) they are taking a stereotype (gays and straights) to an extreme. As a gay man, I am no offended that they are portryaing us as 'sissy hair dressers and fashion icons'...damnit, I WANT to be a fashion icon...

Anyways, I'll watch it when I get back from DC and let you know then what I feel about it :)

Posted by: Ekims

I wonder how a show would do if it were about 5 Asian/Americans going around showing Non Asian/Americans how to work on electronics, or perhaps 5 African/Americans showing how to eat fried chicken and watermelon. These types of shows do no one justice. I happen to know a couple of gay men and I wouldn't rely on them for decorating advice.

Posted by: Animgif

quote:
Originally posted by Ekims
I happen to know a couple of gay men and I wouldn't rely on them for decorating advice.

Then you don't know the right gay guys :D

Seriously, I'll agree with your argument...it is very stereotypical...but hey, we all have to lighten up sometimes :)

Posted by: Ekims

Believe it or not, I am not a soapbox kind of guy. I rarely vioce my opinion on something this trivial. I just fear that it will just add to the gay bashing in this country. I also think that it will just compound other stereotypes. However, some stereotypes exist in truth. I live in Indiana and I love basketball more than my TiVo...

Posted by: WinBear

From AP wire story earlier this week:

quote:

When one critic wondered if the dishy show doesn't traffic in every gay stereotype, fashion maven Carson Kressley informed her "not every one, 'cause we don't have a florist." He also blithely dismissed the notion that TV could have a reverse TV show, where straights set gays, well, straight on such matters. Pronounced the ultra-cool Carson, "It's called high school."

Posted by: TheBar1

Of course the most important question of all here is:

Will recording this show make your TiVo think you're gay?

Sorry - but someone had to pull out that old gag...

Posted by: Marco

As a straight male who can't decorate, dress, or cook, not much anyway, I'm not offended. :)

Posted by: randym431

As a Gay male, I cant cook (if it doesnt involve a can opener and a pan), cant dress (wear sweats all the time), and cant decorate (at all). If I were part of the group, the results would be a disaster. So there goes the stereotype!

Posted by: Zirak

quote:
Originally posted by Ekims
I wonder how a show would do if it were about 5 Asian/Americans going around showing Non Asian/Americans how to work on electronics, or perhaps 5 African/Americans showing how to eat fried chicken and watermelon. These types of shows do no one justice. I happen to know a couple of gay men and I wouldn't rely on them for decorating advice.

Well... I would love to see the show where the 5 asian americans show 5 african americans how to work on electronics, while simultaneously the african americans were teaching the asian americans to eat fried chicken and watermelon!

Imagine it! Solder in the mashed potatos, and chicken grease and watermelon juice on the mother boards! Now THAT would be funny!

Posted by: sieglinde

That was pretty racist. Why couldn't the African-Americans show the Asians American music, or sports or some other positive thing?

Posted by: jsmeeker

has this show aired?? I wish I had Bravo, bu I don't. I'm not gay, but I might be metrosexual (the jury is still out on that). This program isn't offensive. It's all in good fun.

Posted by: CTLesq

quote:
Originally posted by Animgif
...but hey, we all have to lighten up sometimes :)

Something I have been learning lately. For such cheap advice it is worth alot.

CTL

Posted by: pmyers

quote:
Originally posted by mitchrc
It's got a Season Pass from me. I recommend more reading about metrosexuals.

Warning...that site isn't exactly work safe

Posted by: mitchrc

How is Salon not work safe?

Posted by: pmyers

Well I scrolled down and saw the next article was "The Holy Grail of anal sex" and decided to abort.

Posted by: sieglinde

I read a nice review of this in the paper. It sounds like fun. I know a few guys who could use advice on cleaning up their act. (one thing they do is have the guy cut off his pony tail. Good move.)

I suspect Bravo thinks its funny to do this with gay guys rather than thinking that gay guys could be the only ones capable of doing this.

Posted by: WinBear

This show has been a blast! The scary artist guy transformed into the handsome hunk, his disastrous living quarters and wardrobe making an amazing makeover. I'm definitely looking forward to more of this.

Posted by: Marc

I am so addicted to this show already! Carson is hysterical!

Posted by: Patchwork

quote:
Originally posted by mshannon
I am so addicted to this show already! Carson is hysterical!

Me too. When he "picked up" the jock strap in the first episode, Carson had me concerned that this was going to get too raunchy, but after two hours, I'm convinced that he's the momentum and that the series would be totally too lame without him.

The whole thing is a hoot and the structure is without flaw, my favorite part being the finale, where they watch the various events on camera and comment on their accomplishments.

I'm hooked.

Posted by: Skittles

Carson was great! He's definitely my favorite of the 5.

"How often do you go clothes shopping?"
"Uhh... every 2 or 3 years."
"No, that's voting."

HI-larious! I didn't see it as being derogative to homosexuals, either. Everything's being done very well.

Oh, what's with the Culture guy? In the first episode, he had a whopping 2 minutes of screentime, and then he disappeared in the second episode in place of someone named Blair.

Posted by: WinBear

Even more weird about the Jai/Blair thing, is that Jai is still listed in the opening credits. They must have emergency substitutions for the Fab5.

None of the other guys have really made much of an impression. Kyan and Thom seem competent, but their personalities haven't come through yet. I hope what we've seen of Allen, the food guy, is not that representative. He seemed like he might go ballistic that these people didn't appreciate the kosher :rolleyes: foie gras. I think he could have pursued another luxury food that they would have been slightly more familiar with.

Posted by: Dafaso

My favorite Carson line:

When the Jewish guy was trying to tie his tie:

"I haven't seen such concentration since Mary Lou Retton in 1983."

:D

Posted by: Lord Nimon

Count me in as a new fan! Unfortunately, most of my friends are too "crackery" to appreciate it. Maybe I just need new friends.

Posted by: Satchel

I loved the show last night, but felt they were taking aim on the wife...the show is about the guy, and it was...but they made such a big thing about how sloppy the house was and I can't help but think that guys wife gave him hell for her being exposed as a crappy housekeeper on national tv...it was like let's be catty to the girl time...
Also, they obviously dumped all the kids toys in the back yard...and were were those kids anyways???

Posted by: uncdrew

Man, was that show funny.

When he picked up the head on that freakish doll-thing and said "I see straight people" I laughed hard.

I don't really feel like the stereotype thing is bad. They are picking embarrassingly painful subjects (that happen to be straight), and they are being advised by men that happen to be gay.

Posted by: sieglinde

Now we should start a new movement. GASAM Gays and Straights Against Mullets. Get the five gay guys to go on a Mullet hunt and cut them all off!!!!

Posted by: BLeonard

I haven't seen this show yet but I saw an ad for an upcoming show - I think it was called "Boy Meets Boy" where they bring a group of guys together and I think the object is either to pick out the gay guy from the group or the straight guy. I just saw the promo one time. More bizarre reality programming.

Posted by: esperantisto

I saw the first one. I'd say it's all in good fun.

Posted by: SoldOnTiVo

ok, maybe the producer's picks may have been a bit "stereotypical", but after having watched the first show, they just look like 5 guys totally being themselves and having a blast.

What's not to like? :)

Posted by: Patchwork

Found an article at the entertainment section of CNN, explaining how concept for the show came about.

In case anyone interested hasn't thought to check out the BravoTV web site, this page lists all the episodes and show times, before and after photos (and after videos) of current episodes, and some other stuff.

Posted by: uhad2ask

I just have a few thoughts about the first episode:

Glory hole

Crack den

Skid Marks

Tissue Box

Laughed so hard I chocked on my Cosmo. Forget the stereo types, this was just fun.

albert

Posted by: murgatroyd

quote:
Originally posted by jsmeeker
has this show aired?? I wish I had Bravo, bu I don't. I'm not gay, but I might be metrosexual (the jury is still out on that). This program isn't offensive. It's all in good fun.

The first two shows have aired. If you don't have Bravo, not to worry, you can still see what the guys are up to by going to the website:
http://bravotv.com/Queer_Eye_for_the_Straight_Guy/

My impressions from the first two episodes? These guys are good.

I was especially impressed with the interior design work on the living room in the second show. They did most of the effects with paint and only added a few new pieces and a couple of doors. Most of the things that were added were items taken from other rooms in the house. But the impact on the room was amazing.

They also did clever fixes like patching the kitchen floor by stealing tiles from underneath the refrigerator.

Bios, tips, pictures, shopping hints, all can be found on the website, so check it out. You too can enjoy the makeovers.

Jan

Posted by: SoldOnTiVo

My favorite line from the first show:

Straight guy: "Do I have to roll up the sleeves? I prefer them straight"
Carson "I prefer 'em straight too but it usually doesn't work out"

Ok, so you kind of expect the typical gay jokes from him but his delivery is just great. Much funnier show than "last comic standing". :)

Posted by: TiVoLance

This is my new favorite show. I loved it. I read that the ratings are very good as well. My favorite quote, "Everyone loves a pearl necklace". lol The Food and Wine Guy is a hottie but Carson is definitely a hoot!

Posted by: WinBear

It's Clear Viewers Like 'Queer,' Get Used to It

Posted by: aschultz

quote:
Originally posted by WinBear
It's Clear Viewers Like 'Queer,' Get Used to It

Indeed they do, and for good reason. Simply put, it's a fun show that doesn't take itself too seriously. I agree, Carson alone is reason to tune in. That guy is a hoot....also, the food critic is frightening....he takes his trade a bit too seriously. It's foie gras...NOT national security....

..and yes, the guys ARE good...that Jewish guy from Long Island was in DIRE need of immediate help. I wasn't sure that even the "Fab 5" with all their talents and abilities, could rescue that man....LOL. And that dreadful house.......How they turned that shi*hole into something even remotely presentable is beyond me.

As for the earlier post "not all gay men excel in these pursuits"...I don't think the show insinuates that ALL gay men have EXTRAORDINARY abilities in these disciplines, rather, the show works under the premise that MOST gay men (at least ones that I know) DO possess unquestionably superior acumen in ONE of these particular areas.

I don't think that's too much of a reach....

Posted by: aschultz

What's the name of that catchy little number that opens the show?

Posted by: WinBear

quote:
Originally posted by aschultz
What's the name of that catchy little number that opens the show?

From the Bravo website:

JAI RODRIGUEZ'S CULTURE GUIDE

The Queer Eye Theme Song:

WIDELIFE: "ALL THINGS"
Working with the idea that the Fab Five are on a mission "to make over the world one straight guy at time," superdance duo Widelife ran with the concept and delivered one of the catchiest theme songs on television.

"All Things," featuring the dynamic voice of dancefloor songstress Simone, is a mix of funky beats, rising synths, a percussion that forces you to shake that booty and a catchy little hook that won't leave your head days after hearing it. Of course, we expected nothing less from Widelife after the duo's success with last year's #1 Billboard dance track "I Don't Want You." Watch for the single to drop sometime this summer!

Posted by: murgatroyd

quote:
Originally posted by Satchel
I loved the show last night, but felt they were taking aim on the wife...the show is about the guy, and it was...but they made such a big thing about how sloppy the house was and I can't help but think that guys wife gave him hell for her being exposed as a crappy housekeeper on national tv...it was like let's be catty to the girl time...
Also, they obviously dumped all the kids toys in the back yard...and were were those kids anyways???

I don't disagree with you, Satchel, but the one thing that I really like about the show is that it is far more affectionate toward the 'victim' than most other makeover stuff I have seen.

Yes, the Fab5 are catty as hell and make tons of little digs, but for the most part, they stick with the client's own taste as much as possible. The only mis-step I've seen so far is Ted creebing about how they didn't like his foie gras (kosher foie gras? who knew?). Ted darling, the girl still chews Bazooka bubble gum!

Aside from that, look what they did: at Adam's house, Thom made an amazing transformation of the living room, largely done with the couple's own pieces, and picking up on (and running like hell with) the existing color story that was already in evidence. Note that unlike Trading Spaces, they didn't glue crap to the walls or radically change the color scheme, or anything like that. In the kitchen, they covered up the wall mural but kept the color scheme (I think Adam got it: they pixellated the colors that were already there). Carson pulled out the one really good piece in the client's closet and worked around that.

And with Brian: Thom used the color scheme that was already there, re-used his own storage pieces, fixed the refrigerator door. Carson found that jacket that went with the paint-splattered jeans, and used the self-portrait for the T-shirt. Ted suggested the pizzas that could be made to look like Brian's art. Jai and Kyan did a little polishing up. Voila!

Especially with the Butch --> Brian transformation, I get the feeling that all of these things that Brian could have managed on his own, if he had only had more time to think about it. But we all get overwhelmed and stuck in a rut, so we never get around to doing it. So the Fab5 just started with where Brian was at that point in time, thought about what Brian might do if he had time and gumption, and ran like hell with it, with spectacular results.

The idea of the show is "make better", not "make over" -- so even though they make all sorts of catty remarks, they are showing a heck of a lot more respect for what their clients might actually want than most makeover shows I've seen.

What would you rather have: designers who flatter you to your face, and then ignore your taste and impose their taste on you, or designers who make catty comments, then make things better while paying attention to what you might like?

I'm hooked. This is my current most favorite show.

P.S. Best zinger so far: when they speculated if Adam's wardrobe was kosher, too: "... all Isaac Mizrahi?" :D

Jan

Posted by: markp99

I just cannot get past the blatent product adverts (let use this hair gel by xxx, try this leather jacket by yyy)... Ughhh!

The program had great promise; I just don;t enjoy watching. Oh well...

Posted by: murgatroyd

quote:
Originally posted by markp99
I just cannot get past the blatent product adverts (let use this hair gel by xxx, try this leather jacket by yyy)... Ughhh!

The program had great promise; I just don;t enjoy watching. Oh well...

Mark, I understand why that's annoying to you, but it's no different from any magazine, which has a Shopping Guide at the back, or This Old House listing the companies which have donated things in the end credits.

Every fashion makeover show I've seen has mentioned the stores they were shopping in by name, and often they say who designed the pieces they bought for the client. They know there is a segment of the audience who will want to know, so they can get something like that for themselves. And if the companies mentioned are donating goods, shouldn't they get something out of it?

I find this much less offensive than product placement in a movie, where companies pay to get their own cereal or whatever in the houses of the characters. At least with the blatant mentions, you know it's an ad.

YMMV.

Jan

Posted by: TiVoLance

Heck I want to know the products so I can go out and buy them if they help me like they did for these guys. :D

Posted by: markp99

quote:
Originally posted by TiVoLance
Heck I want to know the products so I can go out and buy them if they help me like they did for these guys. :D

Good point, TiVoLance! :)

Posted by: Gunnyman2k3

after watching tonite I NOW have a season pass to this hillarious show.

Anyone watching this and thinking to themselves
"Man, I don't want these guys in MY house!"?

lol
I did sense they were bagging on the wife but from what I could tell, she wasn't much of a housekeeper herself.

Posted by: Smiles

This show is totally entertaining! Can't wait for more episodes!

Posted by: dthmj

We just watched this show last night, and it was great...

I think our favorite line was when they were waxing Adam and Carson said "Did you loose some weight? Wax your ear hair?" We had to stop the show and laugh for a few minutes.

I would love those guys to come in and fix my straight guy and my house.

I didn't see them ragging too much on the wife's housekeeping. I noticed the family coming in and saying what a difference it was and how it was finally cleaned up. They even mentioned the bedroom, and the Fab5 didn't do anything in there (that we saw) - so the place must have been a real mess...

Posted by: Lord Nimon

quote:
Originally posted by markp99
I just cannot get past the blatent product adverts (let use this hair gel by xxx, try this leather jacket by yyy)... Ughhh!

The program had great promise; I just don;t enjoy watching. Oh well...

The product adverts are necessary, since this show is supposed to be entertaining and educational. What's the point of having a makeover show if the viewer wouldn't know what to buy?

Besides, the fact that you don't like hearing the names of the products and manufacturers shows that you do not understand the fashion/design industry at all. The manufacturer is as important, if not more so, than product itself among people in that industry. So having a bunch of fashion/design experts talking about the manufacturers and names of the products they use and recommend is 100% on target.

Posted by: jsmeeker

I learned that NBC is going to air a "Queer Eye" special/recap show on Thursday night. Good news for all of us who don't get Bravo.

Oh, and I certainly agree about why they have to drop the names of products and designers. *Who* they are made by is a *big* part of making the product cool/hip/fashionable.

Posted by: Tori

My biggest complaint is they are only doing makeovers in the NY area, I know a lot of people who seriously need some help, and I had a brief flash of hope only to have it dashed.

Now I have another complaint, I just went to look at the website again and now they have changed their application process. Now only the guy himself is supposed to apply. The guys I know most in need of this couldn't get organized enough to apply for themselves.

I also know a gay guy who is worse off in every single area than the the worse parts of all straight guys they've showed so far rolled into one. I wish they would do something for him.

When revisiting the site though I discovered another new thing

quote:
Need a hip tip on the go? Call our toll free line ? 1-866-LUV-FAB-5 ? for helpful hints and indispensible advice from our fabulous fivesome.

-Tori

Posted by: murgatroyd

quote:
Originally posted by Tori
My biggest complaint is they are only doing makeovers in the NY area, I know a lot of people who seriously need some help, and I had a brief flash of hope only to have it dashed.

Now I have another complaint, I just went to look at the website again and now they have changed their application process. Now only the guy himself is supposed to apply. The guys I know most in need of this couldn't get organized enough to apply for themselves.

I also know a gay guy who is worse off in every single area than the the worse parts of all straight guys they've showed so far rolled into one. I wish they would do something for him.

I can see why they want to have the guys apply themselves. I've watched a heck of a lot of make-over segments on the daytime shows, and I've gotten to have a real distaste for the ones where the teenagers bring their moms for a make-over. A lot of the times you end up with a mom who is gamely going along with it, but you can tell she is really unhappy with the results, and as soon as the show is over, things are going back to the way she wants.

Of the two shows so far, I think Brian's was the most successful. You can see how the interaction worked. He's an artist and understood and appreciated what the Fab5 were talking about right away. Adam was more like a reluctant kid who was getting tidied up for his bar mitzvah by his mom. He was doing it to please his wife, not so much for himself, and it shows.

I agree that it would be great if the Fab5 would go everywhere, but I can see why they'd want to stick to NYC. I imagine most of them have their regular gigs to work around (Thom has his own design firm, Ted has his duties at Esquire, Jai is off-Broadway, etc.). And it gives them a known set of resources to draw on.

For anyone outside of NYC who wants their own "make-better", there are plenty of local experts around who can help you out. The cool thing about QE is that the show gives viewers a kick start on being able to articulate what they would like to change, e.g. "I have clothes for work, but I need a couple of outfits for when I want to go out." It introduces you to the idea of having a 'color story' in your wardrobe and decor. And so on.

They're clearly making a big effort to give lots of tips and educate the clients and the audience about design principles. Anybody who wants to do their own "make-better" can pick up tons of ideas by going through each show and making notes about what gets changed and why. Then they can look at their own stuff and see which tips and ideas will work in their own space and wardrobe.

Of course those of us with TiVo have a big advantage because we can re-watch the show like mad, pause wherever we need to, and take notes like crazy. :up:

Jan

Posted by: harvscar

This show is absolutely hilarious. Watching Butch walk into the opening was very heart warming too. This is much better than some of the other reality makeover shows (Monster House, TS, Monster Garage) where they focus so much on the conflicts and drama that you don't get to see how the experts do the cool stuff do. :up:

Posted by: aschultz

quote:
Originally posted by markp99
I just cannot get past the blatent product adverts (let use this hair gel by xxx, try this leather jacket by yyy)... Ughhh!

The program had great promise; I just don;t enjoy watching. Oh well...

Who cares??

Obviously, the viewers are going to want to know the names of the products/items that have provided the spectacular results.....I wouldn't watch it otherwise.

These things just don't magically happen...It's the result of talented professionals utilizing quality, name brand materials.

Posted by: aschultz

quote:
Originally posted by murgatroyd
Of the two shows so far, I think Brian's was the most successful. You can see how the interaction worked. He's an artist and understood and appreciated what the Fab5 were talking about right away. Adam was more like a reluctant kid who was getting tidied up for his bar mitzvah by his mom. He was doing it to please his wife, not so much for himself, and it shows.

Absolutely agree.

Brian's (Butch's) makeover was nothing short of spectacular. I think what made it really work was his desire to change whereas Adam admittedly was doing this to please his wife. I can't see Adam giving up his couch potato lifestyle and relinquishing his Hockey tickets for a night at the opera.

I think the best thing Adam could have done would be to tell his wife that for HER birthday, HE would start working out at a gym....

Posted by: markp99

quote:
Originally posted by Lord Nimon
Besides, the fact that you don't like hearing the names of the products and manufacturers shows that you do not understand the fashion/design industry at all.

Bingo! You pegged me...

Posted by: Animgif

I just got back from DC...might I say FABULOUS :D

Posted by: WinBear

quote:
Originally posted by Animgif
I just got back from DC...might I say FABULOUS :D

Did you get to do you own make-better of whoknows55?

Posted by: Animgif

quote:
Originally posted by WinBear
Did you get to do you own make-better of whoknows55?

No...Not enough time and I was a little drunk... =)

Posted by: Skittles

From today's IMDB.com Movie & TV news:

quote:
Queer Eye for the Straight Guy , which registered Bravo's strongest ratings when it premiered last week, will get a second outing on the cable channel's big brother, NBC, on Thursday, following Will & Grace. It is the first time in memory that two programs with gay themes will air in tandem on a major network -- although NBC indicated that Thursday's airing will be a one-time-only affair and is designed to give the cable show greater exposure.

Note to jsmeeker: You really have no excuse for missing it this week. :D

Posted by: hairyblue

I love the show.

Carson seems to be a bit too eager to touch the straight guys <g>

I would think the people being helped do not have to pay for any of the "makeover". So free sofa, or paint with a little bit of brand name dropping is ok with me.

Butch to Brian make over was remarkable!

I wonder if Adams kids are crying about their missing toys <g>

I can't wait for more!

Hairy

P.S. I'm gay and I can't decorate or dress fashionally but I can cook. But I'm taken by a great and handsome bear so he can help me do the rest.

Posted by: jsmeeker

quote:
Originally posted by SkittlesDFW
From today's IMDB.com Movie & TV news:

Note to jsmeeker: You really have no excuse for missing it this week. :D

see my post earlier in the thread. TiVo is already programmed. I'll be on an airplane headed back from L.A. when it airs.

:)

Posted by: Skittles

Bah! That's what I get for reading every other post in threads. :)

Posted by: pmyers

Wow....and who said reality TV was all crap? My wife and I loved the first two episodes. Brian/Butch's episode was just classic. It really helped that he had a personality.

I was surprised at how far some of the jokes went...Glory Hole, etc. All in all a great new show.....too bad I can't tell the "boys" about it ;)

Posted by: woyton

Straight Eye for the Queer Guy

This article's a hoot.

Posted by: TivoChuckster

Did I see that the NBC airing of the show will only be 1/2 hour? The ones on Bravo are a full hour... minus commercials...

Posted by: pmyers

I think I heard it was only going to be a "highlight" type of show.

Posted by: TiVoLance

Well the one tonight was Fab as well. The most spectacular thing tonight was his house. Thom did a great job with that small space. Poor Culture Guy had nothing to do though. And it was Blair again and not the one in the opening credits and website. Wonder if they had to switch people unexpectedly as the season progressed? And for those of you that are going to be protesting them being harsh on the girlfriend ---- She really did look like a hooker. Didn't she know she was going to be on TV? Carson still makes the show. :D

Posted by: murgatroyd

quote:
Originally posted by TiVoLance
Well the one tonight was Fab as well. The most spectacular thing tonight was his house. Thom did a great job with that small space. Poor Culture Guy had nothing to do though. And it was Blair again and not the one in the opening credits and website. Wonder if they had to switch people unexpectedly as the season progressed? And for those of you that are going to be protesting them being harsh on the girlfriend ---- She really did look like a hooker. Didn't she know she was going to be on TV? Carson still makes the show. :D

Au contraire, it was Blair the Culture guy that raided Borders and stocked his coffee table and bookshelves with the decent stuff. I'd also love to see what CDs he picked out at the music shop. Maybe it isn't as much as what Carson does, since you don't have to worry about sizes and fit, but it still takes a good eye for picking the right thing. If you think it's easy, come work with me at Christmastime and I'll show you. ;)

I suspect that the episodes are not airing in the order they were produced. Note that when they went to see Brian, they said "another longhair". Jai may be in a show right now. I like both Blair and Jai so we'll be fine no matter who is on.

And that girlfriend -- they can be as harsh as they want. Anybody who could toss out a teddy bear in that heartless fashion deserves to be dissed. Of course she knew she was going to be on TV. That outfit is her idea of style. :rolleyes:

Jan

Posted by: Graymalkin

I almost married a girl like Lisa. Came to my senses just in time, though. Still makes me shudder when I think how close I came. :D

I love this show. Can't stop laughing.

Posted by: Animgif

Last night was just great! I can't begin to tell you how much I love this show!

Posted by: smccune

I can't believe it - but i am actually loving this show also. A couple of my friends say it is too stereotypical, but I think they do it with so much "fun" it's forgivable.

And the straight guys are so cool. I think that this will start forging a little bridge between the straight male world and the gay male world! (when straight guys see that they can comfortably be joked about and touched by gay men (a lot sometimes :), the prejudices will fall apart.)

Posted by: aschultz

quote:
Originally posted by Graymalkin
I almost married a girl like Lisa. Came to my senses just in time, though. Still makes me shudder when I think how close I came. :D

I love this show. Can't stop laughing.

Straight guy Tom needs to RUN....not walk..RUN...as far away from the (stuck in a Whitesnake video) girlfriend as possible. What a c-unt. It's evident who wears the pants in that relationship.

I loved it when the Fab 5 said "Maybe now that he has more confidence, he'll dump her and find somebody else"

Priceless.

The day I let somsone throw a piece of my history out...Man, I would have kicked her to the curb in no time after a stunt like that.

While I thought the makeover wasn't nearly as dramatic as the first two, I found myself laughing uncontrollably at some of these remarks (amongst others):

Carson: "I need a Ritalin smoothie so I can deal with all of this work"
Thom: "Is he retarded?"
Ted: "Im sensing an alcoholism situation...and perhaps botulism"
Carson: "He's stuck in the David Lee Roth acid washed era"

Simply put, this show is incredibly refreshing and a whole lot of fun.
:D

Posted by: Gunnyman2k3

I was thinking the same thing about Lisa. Now that this guy has a swinging pad,( he should hire a maid) he should find himself a new honey.....
She was skankyish

Posted by: AlanShutko

Tom is actually someone I used to work with. Unfortunately, I never met the gf so I can't say whether she was portrayed accurately there (although I think she might be a bit nicer than she seemed... she did put up with the state of his place for quite a while before this show happened).

Tom, however, is exactly like he seemed on the show, except maybe even more laid back. It's a shame they didn't try a more radical makeover... he would have rolled with it.

Posted by: Zirak

Carson is hilarious.

"There is a hooker in Trenton missing her shoes"
"What are we, the IBM tie fags?"

Posted by: Zirak

Another thought... Has anyone dared to give this show three thumbs up? :D

Posted by: Gunnyman2k3

since giving it ONE thumbs up
I am getting those other home improvement shows.
I am gonna try 3 thumbs and see if I start getting Queer as Folk
I'll report back.

Posted by: murgatroyd

Categories on the stand-alone:

Comedy
Fashion
Home and Garden
Self Improvement
Gay and Lesbian

:D

Think of the chaos three thumbs up will do to your thumb-settings.

Jan

Posted by: doom1701

We finally caught it last night. It's recording on the bedroom TiVo, so I'm just sure some day my wife is gonna come home, find a suggestion for some strange gay pseudo-porn, and she's gonna blame me. :)

Very fun show. I haven't read this entire thread, but I know it started with some people concerned about how this show may perpetuate a gay stereotype. I'd have to agree with that--other than the food guy, they all seem to be pretty flaming. And I will also say that I was kindof bothered by Carson's use of the word "fag" at one point--just what we need; another "n" word. But I'm sure that's something I'd have to criticize a culture for--not a TV show.

The show itself is fun, though, and makes it easy to look past those issues. I look forward to seeing it more.

Posted by: SoldOnTiVo

quote:
Originally posted by smccune
I can't believe it - but i am actually loving this show also. A couple of my friends say it is too stereotypical, but I think they do it with so much "fun" it's forgivable.

To me is would be "stereotypical" were those guys actors playing a part. These guys are just themselves. I don't believe I have to forgive anyone for being themselves. :)

Posted by: beldar

I read in the Data Lounge that several NBC affiliates either refused to run the show last night, or delayed it until the wee hours (after Conan). The two I heard about were in North Carolina. One station ran an announcement saying they were delaying it because of "language".

Posted by: T-Veaux

Any state that would support Jesse Helms would obviously have problems with this show... What a crappy place to live! Crap, I live there.:(

Posted by: kiljoy

FINALLY got to watch. My g/f was a little wary of the stereotype situation, but I told her what you all said here. The NBC recap of Brian was priceless, but she hasn't seen this yet. She and I watched Adam together. It was great! I love the fashion and hair dudes. My least favorite part was actually in the Brian one, when they were dissing him hard at the beginning, but the second 20 minutes more than made up for it. I'm gonna give it 2 thumbs up, since the only other SP on this TiVo is 3 thumbs for Law & Order. I don't need suggestions of obscure, gay-oriented crime dramas.

Whole hearted "Watch this show" from me!

Tony

Posted by: meridian

quote:
Originally posted by SoldOnTiVo
To me is would be "stereotypical" were those guys actors playing a part. These guys are just themselves. I don't believe I have to forgive anyone for being themselves. :)

Well said!:)

Posted by: ReenieS

On Bravo's main webpage for "Queer Eye" the Fab 5 are decked out in true Tarantino style. How much do I love this show? As a proud f*g h*g from WAY back, I must say that I would be proud to call any of these boys "Girlfriend!"

This show is a great combination of BBCA's "What not to Wear" (do NOT mistake for the crappy American version) and Lawrence-Llwellen Bown on Changing Rooms. I would highly recommend this show to all my friends, but I insist that they catch the hour-long version, and not the NBC edit job. You simply miss too much in the pared-down version.

I love the FOOD guy and of course, Carson.

Way to go BRAVO!

:p

Posted by: jsmeeker

Well, I *just* finished watching the NBC version from Thursday night. Fantastic show. Well done. The Fab 5 seem to play up the gay factor a *little* bit for the cameras, but that's OK.

They truly did a good job with Butch. I just wish I had Bravo....

Posted by: sieglinde

I saw a snippit of this yesterday. Oh boy, I could see all five of those guys coming to my house and just throwing up their hands and going home. :)

Boy could I use their help.

Queer Eye for the Straight Woman.

Posted by: lachacg

My wife and I have once question while watching this. Do they really do all this in one day? By themselves?

Posted by: WinBear

According to the Bravo website, it's a 3 day process. It's just edited to look like one day. Sometimes it is obvious a day has passed, like when they got the overnight shipment of kosher foie gras.

Posted by: LoadStar

With the particular episode you referenced, I thought something was fishy with the timing, but I wasn't sure. I figured that with the foie gras, they had done preliminary interviews beforehand and had it delivered the 'day' of the transformation.

However, the amount of stuff that they had to do in the house was a bit much for a single day, including pulling the tiles out of under the fridge and fixing the rest of the floors - plus I seriously doubted all that furniture could get delivered same day, not to mention getting all the painting and stuff done.

Posted by: Fustanella

I figured it was more than a day, especially with Brian/Butch (was that his name? the artist) - the removal of crud alone would've taken many hours. :)

Posted by: aschultz

quote:
Originally posted by Fustanella
I figured it was more than a day, especially with Brian/Butch (was that his name? the artist) - the removal of crud alone would've taken many hours. :)

Actually, I can see Butch's place being turned around in 24 hours (with assistance of course), if for no other reason than the fact that it seemed extremely small....Now Adam's home on the other hand, looked like a complete disaster.

Posted by: IJustLikeTivo

Just watched the TOM episode. This show is a keeper but what a slob Tom is. I shudder at the idea of coming home to that and I am far from a neat freak as anyone who knows me could verify. Food everywhere. Dishes in the sink. He had no idea how to cook. Can't read. (how hard is it to read Gewurztraminer?, hell say it is german if you can't pronounce it.) And Carson is right on the whole Hooker thing. He had some great comments during the reveal.

IJLT

Posted by: whoknows55

I saw the Tom episode last night. I didn't think it was that funny. I'm willing to give it another shot, since everyone else seems to love it.

Posted by: laria

Oh man... "There's a hooker in Trenton that wants her boots back."

I forgot to set up my season pass for this until today, so I have only seen the Tom episode, but the others are being rerun a million times so I'm sure I'll catch up.

This show is hilarious!

Posted by: murgatroyd

Just watched the cowboy one. Wow. The guy was kinda a Tom Cruise lookalike and our girls went all out on his behalf.

Note to self: do not watch QE while eating dinner. ;) Too many funny jokes. Almost sprayed the place with cornbread crumbs.

Jan

Posted by: TheBar1

Carson and Kyan were on Howard Stern this morning to talk about the show and plan their day for making over ("making better" - wink) Stern Show sidekick Artie Lang.

What a hoot!

Posted by: dthmj

Last night's show was one of the funnier episodes. The make better of the straight guy wasn't all that remarkable since he was pretty good to start out with (I think he may have a little gay in him) - but the house looked great.

And some of the comments had us really laughing...

Posted by: Lori

I got to the bandwagon a little late, but this is now my favorite show, I think.

I want Carson to be my best friend!

Edited for clarity. Or because I can't type. Your choice. :)

Posted by: doom1701

The more I watch this show, the less stereotyping I see. Yeah, Carson is still flaming. But initially that's all I noticed. Now that I've caught a couple of episodes, I've found that the other guys really aren't all that stereotypical. Heck, I wonder if Ted (the food and wine guy) is a closet Hetro. :)

Posted by: dthmj

quote:
Originally posted by doom1701
Heck, I wonder if Ted (the food and wine guy) is a closet Hetro. :)

Everytime we watch the show, my hubby makes the comment that Ted isn't gay.

Posted by: laria

quote:
Originally posted by dthmj
Everytime we watch the show, my hubby makes the comment that Ted isn't gay.

He put moussed foie gras on top of little crackers and put a currant on top of that. He's gay. :)

Posted by: murgatroyd

quote:
Originally posted by dthmj
Everytime we watch the show, my hubby makes the comment that Ted isn't gay.

My husband pegged Ted right away as having the "classic gay nerd" look. ;)

It's definitely not the same as the straight-guy nerd look, because it's too refined and tidy. :D

Jan

Posted by: Leetah

Didn't see this posted yet:
CNN Interview with Carson and Thom

Leetah

Posted by: Graymalkin

NBC will now air a full hour-long episode of Queer Eye at 10 p.m. EDT on Thursday, Aug. 14, prior to the Fab 5's appearance on The Tonight Show that evening.

Posted by: jsmeeker

quote:
Originally posted by laria
He put moussed foie gras on top of little crackers and put a currant on top of that. He's gay. :)

$150 on the fois gras and no one liked it.. What's wrong with these people? Have they no taste???

Posted by: bobcarn

quote:
Originally posted by jsmeeker
$150 on the fois gras and no one liked it.. What's wrong with these people? Have they no taste???

All I can think is that he made really bad fois gras. That was actually the one episode that I saw bits and pieces of. I was cracking up laughing at the looks on people's faces every time they tasted it. Maybe it's just me (I know, it's definitely just me), but the look someone gets when they taste something that they REALLY don't like cracks me up.

I'm not a liver fan. Beef liver totally grosses me out. Chicken liver totally grosses me out. But fois gras is totally different and I love it!

Actually, there are ways I can make chicken liver pate that I do enjoy. My SO loved it, so I would try to make it for him. Getting nauseous while I was cooking it prompted me to experiment with different ways of preparing it until I came up with a way that's really good. But I digressed.....

Posted by: jsmeeker

I was suprised that after making the mousse, he piped it onto crackers from a pastry bag using a small tip. It seriously looked like something that came out of a can.

Posted by: Fleegle

Sorry, Guys, but fois gras is the most disgusting thing I've ever had. Now those black truffles, those are wonderful, but fois gras? ::shudder::

Posted by: pantherman007

quote:
Originally posted by dthmj
Everytime we watch the show, my hubby makes the comment that Ted isn't gay.

You catch that smack to the butt he gave Jai as they were dancing out of the room on the last episode? Methinks Mr. Ted is starting to come out of his shell a little ...

Posted by: laria

quote:
Originally posted by jsmeeker
$150 on the fois gras and no one liked it.. What's wrong with these people? Have they no taste???

Or maybe they do! ;)

I would not have let a cracker with foie gras on it anywhere near my mouth.

Posted by: Dante101

quote:
Originally posted by murgatroyd
Jai may be in a show right now.

I was thinking the same thing - that maybe the other guy fills in for Jai when he has rehearsals or whatever.

Jai is my fave. He is so cute!

I love this show.

I'm gay, but don't mind gay stereotypes at all. The only things I hate are the negative stereotypes, such as "gays are child molestors," or when people use the word "gay" as a substitute for "stupid," as in "that show was so gay."

Posted by: murgatroyd

quote:
Originally posted by Dante101
I was thinking the same thing - that maybe the other guy fills in for Jai when he has rehearsals or whatever.

Jai is my fave. He is so cute!

I love this show.

Check out the other thread (the one about the article in Entertainment Weekly).

I noticed on one of the replays of the episode with Brian that they said " ... another longhair." And I started thinking: how can they say "another" when this is the first show? Maybe this is a clue that hey're airing the episodes out of order because this one is so strong.

And yep, the article confirms it. Blair was first and they didn't like the chemistry, so they recast the Culture Guy and we got the adorable Jai in his place. I suspect Blair was just too reserved and they wanted somebody with more stage presence -- after all, the other four guys have to hold their own against Carson. ;)

Jan

Posted by: Connie

I expect the problem with the foie gras was that most of the couple's family and friends also keep kosher, so they hadn't ever had any before. I bet Ted didn't take that into account.

Posted by: lachacg

quote:
Originally posted by murgatroyd
Check out the other thread (the one about the article in Entertainment Weekly).

I noticed on one of the replays of the episode with Brian that they said " ... another longhair." And I started thinking: how can they say "another" when this is the first show? Maybe this is a clue that hey're airing the episodes out of order because this one is so strong.

Jan

I remember looking at the production numbers and they were definitely out of order. The marriage proposal was 107, and they haven't shown 7 episodes yet.

Posted by: scottjf8

quote:
Originally posted by doom1701
We finally caught it last night. It's recording on the bedroom TiVo, so I'm just sure some day my wife is gonna come home, find a suggestion for some strange gay pseudo-porn, and she's gonna blame me. :)

On the same Tivo in my house, i have SP's for QE, Boy meets Boy, and Will and Grace....

Does my Tivo have me under suspicion now?

Posted by: murgatroyd

quote:
Originally posted by bobcarn
All I can think is that he made really bad fois gras. ... fois gras is totally different and I love it!

Well, Ted's version may be delicious, but they left it to Adam to make the mousse, so who knows what happened?

Don't forget that the mousse also had truffle oil and Armagnac, and was served on the truffle with the currant on top. So it's a pretty complex taste, more so than the foie gras would have been by itself, don't you think?

I understand the effect that Ted was going for, but is this the concoction you would serve to a client that still had a taste for Bazooka bubble gum? Or did his buddies not tell him that because they thought it would gross him out? ;)

Jan

Posted by: doom1701

quote:
Originally posted by murgatroyd
I understand the effect that Ted was going for, but is this the concoction you would serve to a client that still had a taste for Bazooka bubble gum? Or did his buddies not tell him that because they thought it would gross him out? ;)

Jan

Tha'ts my thought as well. I like Ted in the show, but so far I haven't seen him fix anything that I would ever want to eat. Don't gay guys eat burgers?

Posted by: Dafaso

quote:
Originally posted by doom1701
Tha'ts my thought as well. I like Ted in the show, but so far I haven't seen him fix anything that I would ever want to eat. Don't gay guys eat burgers?

I hate anything that has to do with liver. Give me a burger any day!

Posted by: jsmeeker

quote:
Originally posted by Connie
I expect the problem with the foie gras was that most of the couple's family and friends also keep kosher, so they hadn't ever had any before. I bet Ted didn't take that into account.

yeah he did.. He special orderd kosher foie gras from Miami. Keeping kosher doesn't equal eating bland food.

Posted by: laria

quote:
Originally posted by doom1701
Tha'ts my thought as well. I like Ted in the show, but so far I haven't seen him fix anything that I would ever want to eat. Don't gay guys eat burgers?

I don't know if they eat burgers, but he made a bunch of VERY yummy looking dessert stuff for the Urban Cowboy episode where he was going to propose to his girlfriend. Mmmmmmm dark chocolate....

Posted by: Dante101

quote:
Originally posted by scottjf8
On the same Tivo in my house, i have SP's for QE, Boy meets Boy, and Will and Grace....

Does my Tivo have me under suspicion now?

...your membership card is in the mail, along with a list of instructions on just which pocket to wear your handkerchief/bandana...

Posted by: Dafaso

quote:
Originally posted by Dante101
...your membership card is in the mail, along with a list of instructions on just which pocket to wear your handkerchief/bandana...

Don't forget about choosing the correct color bandana....;)

Posted by: Redstixxx

This show is great. I'm telling everyone I know about it. :)

Posted by: murgatroyd

quote:
Originally posted by doom1701
Tha'ts my thought as well. I like Ted in the show, but so far I haven't seen him fix anything that I would ever want to eat. Don't gay guys eat burgers?

What about the striped bass that he did on the "Make Room for Lisa" show? Side of potatoes and green beans. I don't know about the sesame oil (I don't like really hot stuff), but otherwise it sounded pretty good.

And I definitely would have gone for the mosaic pizza squares at Brian's gallery opening.

Then for the show with John, chocolate mousse, what's not to like? ;)

Jan

Posted by: woyton

quote:
Originally posted by murgatroyd
What about the striped bass that he did on the "Make Room for Lisa" show? Side of potatoes and green beans. I don't know about the sesame oil (I don't like really hot stuff), but otherwise it sounded pretty good.

Sesame oil is not hot -- at least by itself. The Oriental style sesame oil adds a rich, nutty flavor to the dish. It really is quite good.

Posted by: murgatroyd

On the other hand, if doom1701 is lusting for a burger, a fish dish probably won't do. ;)

Jan

Posted by: Mr. Soze

It's an absolute hoot. My wife has it on two Dtivo's (no HMO :mad: ) so our friends w/o Bravo can watch it. I almost wet myself on the Trenton hooker line, which seems to be the popular choice for best line so far. My other fave was from the marriage proposal episode - "It's not minimalist. It's bleak"

Posted by: IJustLikeTivo

quote:
Originally posted by Connie
I expect the problem with the foie gras was that most of the couple's family and friends also keep kosher, so they hadn't ever had any before. I bet Ted didn't take that into account.

They never had goose liver before? I'm not Jewish but I swear I've had this at a Bar/Bat mitzvah or two. Is there some other kind of liver paste that Jewish families eat? Wondering....

Posted by: IJustLikeTivo

quote:
Originally posted by Dante101
...your membership card is in the mail, along with a list of instructions on just which pocket to wear your handkerchief/bandana...

And which ear gets the earing.....

Posted by: Fustanella

quote:
Originally posted by Dante101
I'm gay, but don't mind gay stereotypes at all. The only things I hate are the negative stereotypes, such as "gays are child molestors," or when people use the word "gay" as a substitute for "stupid," as in "that show was so gay."

I'm straight and I agree with you, especially about the latter part. I ask them in what way the show (or whatever) was homosexual, and it's fun to watch the look of confusion on their faces.

I see you're new here. Welcome to the TiVolution!

Posted by: Spire

Reminds me of this classic scene from The Simpsons (episode 4F01, Lisa's Date with Density):

quote:
Lisa and Nelson part lips. She tells him that he does indeed have a tender side, and only needed someone to bring it out.

Nelson looks warmly at Lisa, and takes her hand. Their romantic evening is spoiled by Jimbo, Dolph and Kearney.

Dolph: Oh, man! You kissed a girl!
Jimbo: That is so gay!
Lisa: Listen, you thugs. Stop making fun of him or you'll be sorry.
All three: [sarcastically] Woaaah!
Lisa: You'll be so sorry when you realize how you've hurt the feelings of a sweet young man.

Posted by: NJChris

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Soze
It's an absolute hoot. My wife has it on two Dtivo's (no HMO :mad: ) so our friends w/o Bravo can watch it. I almost wet myself on the Trenton hooker line, which seems to be the popular choice for best line so far. My other fave was from the marriage proposal episode - "It's not minimalist. It's bleak"

She was psycho... I loved Carson's line that went something like "and for our next mood swing...."

:)

Posted by: aschultz

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Soze
It's an absolute hoot. My wife has it on two Dtivo's (no HMO :mad: ) so our friends w/o Bravo can watch it. I almost wet myself on the Trenton hooker line, which seems to be the popular choice for best line so far. My other fave was from the marriage proposal episode - "It's not minimalist. It's bleak"

Yes, that was a truly funny line, but my favorite has got to be....

" I need a Ritalin smoothie just so I can concentrate" :D

Posted by: thenightfly42

quote:
Originally posted by IJustLikeTivo
Can't read. (how hard is it to read Gewurztraminer?, hell say it is german if you can't pronounce it.)

Man, we rewound that bit five times just to listen to his pronounciation. You would think a metalhead would already know about umlauts.

Posted by: Graymalkin

Tonight they're going to work on a member of their own crew -- you know, a gaffer or grip or best boy (:D) or assistant director.

Apparently they had trouble getting makeover clients early in production. Now, of course, they're swamped with applications.

Posted by: Fleegle

When I heard about the show, I rolled my eyes and thought it's be gone after 4 episodes. Now, I want to be on the damn show!

I think it's great how well the show is being accepted. I was sure that the guys would be snippy and condescending to the guy they're making over. I'm glad I was wrong. Sure, they get a little snarky in the very beginning, but that's over very quickly. After that. it's all about helping him out.

Anybody else see similarities between Carson and Jack from Will and Grace?

Posted by: Fustanella

There's an article in today's fishwrapper about metrosexuals -

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/feat...iving-headlines

Posted by: murgatroyd

quote:
Originally posted by fleegle
I think it's great how well the show is being accepted. I was sure that the guys would be snippy and condescending to the guy they're making over. I'm glad I was wrong. Sure, they get a little snarky in the very beginning, but that's over very quickly. After that. it's all about helping him out.

Yes, but all the snarky-stuff at the beginning is just male-bonding stuff. You can especially see that on Brian's episode by the way he keeps bouncing back. Like when Carson is ragging on how his clothes are so ugly.

I love how Brian explained he had them all organized before Carson dumped them on the floor: "work ugly, and regular ugly". And when they ragged him elsewhere about how ugly it all was, he said "Yeah, but everything matches" since it was all ugly.

But yeah, it works because when Thom Filicia is shaking Brian's bed and saying how "prison-like" it is, the underlying message is: you deserve better. And we can tell.

Brian was definitely into the spirit of things. It's no wonder they led off with that episode; it's still my favorite so far.

Jan

Posted by: murgatroyd

quote:
Originally posted by Graymalkin
Tonight they're going to work on a member of their own crew -- you know, a gaffer or grip or best boy (:D) or assistant director.

Apparently they had trouble getting makeover clients early in production. Now, of course, they're swamped with applications.

I'm looking forward to this one. It'll be interesting to see how someone who knows them from work reacts to the make-better. And it'll be a bit of 'behind the scenes' at QE.

I hope they do more shows where a guy just wants a make-better for his own sake. The "make-better" to please the taste of his girl will get old pretty soon.

Jan

Posted by: murgatroyd

quote:
Originally posted by Graymalkin
NBC will now air a full hour-long episode of Queer Eye at 10 p.m. EDT on Thursday, Aug. 14, prior to the Fab 5's appearance on The Tonight Show that evening.

Just checked the Tonight Show website after seeing the click-through ad on the QE site. Details
here.

The Fab5 are on the show as guests on Thursday the 14th but the results of the make-better will air the next night, on Friday the 15th. The second night is NOT in my SA's Guide Data.

Also, I saw a teaser that the Fab5 will be on Good Morning America but they didn't say when. There's nothing in the guide data yet, nor could I find it on the GMA website.

Jan

Posted by: Gunnyman2k3

Does NBC own Bravo?
I am seeing alot of crossover stuff between the two networks

Posted by: WinBear

NBC bought Bravo within the last year. This is one of their first efforts of synergy between the artsy cable network and the 75 year old broadcaster.

So, now ABC has ABC Family, CBS has UPN (sort of) to use and abuse, and now NBC has Bravo.

Posted by: Joey303

According to my estimates, the Fab Five are just about five minutes away from being overexposed.

Yes, they're doing a Make-Better on Jay Leno this week (Th & Fr); Earlier Thursday evening, they're on NBC in a full repeat of the Marriage Proposal episode ('Meanwhile, back at the Casbah . . . ");

This evening (6PM EDST), they're appearing on MSNBC, taking-on hosts Bill Press and Pat Buchanan (Yikes!) -- Puh-lease let them make some suggestions for Bay Buchanan).

Even ABC is jumping on the bandwagon. This morning, they introduced two teams: one gay and one straight. The teams will compete on a Queer Eye Make-Better of one woman (her husband heads-up the non-gay team). We haven't yet seen the results. Diane Sawyer said that she'll be a Make-Better victim, too!

Posted by: Graymalkin

Remember, while the Fab 5 have a lot of media buzz, only 3 million viewers have actually seen them on Bravo. There are a lot of OTC viewers and cable viewers without Bravo who haven't had the pleasure.

Look how TiVo has been showing up in TV series. How many people actually have TiVo?

Posted by: WinBear

Re: the Camera guy episode...

How embarassing to have several mentions of all the "snug" (small) condoms found in the apartment clean up. To his (or his brother's) credit, at least he recognized that regular condoms didn't fit properly and found a solution to prevent unwanted pregnancy and STD.

Posted by: dswallow

The single most repeated phrase on any television show ever must be "Oh my god" on Queer Eye.

Posted by: Leetah

Was this one of the earlier episodes? Cause they seemed a little harsher at times. Thom had some really, er, interesting, comments.

Leetah

("It takes a village, jack***". Bwahaha.)

Posted by: Spire

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
The single most repeated phrase on any television show ever must be "Oh my god" on Queer Eye.

Or on Friends. :)

Posted by: Connie

"Oh my god" is one of those NY expressions (along with "Holy sh*t!") that get said a lot. :-)

I think this was one of the funniest episodes so far -- I think the Fab 5 felt they could get a bit snarkier than usual because they know the guy, and know how he'll take it. Presumably he's been along on the shoots before, he knows how it works, so they don't have to be as worried that he'll take something the wrong way.

Posted by: Graymalkin

This episode was f*****g hilarious! I was laughing so hard, my cats left the room.

"Mansculpting"?! Bwah hah hah hah!

Posted by: Dafaso

"He's hung like a bee."

Posted by: Gunnyman2k3

Thanks Winbear
Now I have someone to write to to show H:LOTS
:D

Posted by: scottjf8

quote:
Originally posted by Dafaso
I hate anything that has to do with liver. Give me a burger any day!

Strange, I feel the same way.. couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact that the liver filters out waste from the bloodstream, does it? :)

Posted by: murgatroyd

Most valuable QE tip for this episode: slow down while shaving.

And I can't believe the guy tried to take off one of those plastic hang-tag loops by biting it off (or yanking it while he was holding it in his mouth). Jeez! No wonder he cut his lip! If you don't have scissors, use a knife. Oww!

Jan

Posted by: emily sparkle

i'm pretty certain it's a timo maas track. not sure what one, but that's a start.

quote:
Originally posted by aschultz
What's the name of that catchy little number that opens the show?

Posted by: Lauri

"Are you a pitcher or a catcher?"

Posted by: scottjf8

quote:
Originally posted by emily sparkle
i'm pretty certain it's a timo maas track. not sure what one, but that's a start.

My wife and I love the little bass/drum beat song they play when showing the before and after pictures of the houses.

Posted by: kiljoy

Best tip so far was actually the one Carson gave Tuesday night:

To tell whether pants will fit, button them and hold them by the seams and put them around the neck. The two seams should *just* touch.

Wish I would've known that last week.

Tony

Posted by: Spire

And if the two seams don't quite make it all the way around your neck, just keep trying, and they will strangle you, effectively solving the problem.

Genius!

Posted by: Fustanella

That was indeed an excellent tip. I did the math - multiplication is one of my strong points - and realized he's exactly right in my case. Nice.

Posted by: Lori

emily? Have you been properly welcomed? Has someone gotten you a snack and something to drink?

Posted by: Spire

quote:
Originally posted by Lori
emily? Have you been properly welcomed? Has someone gotten you a snack and something to drink?

[search, search]

Welcome, emily sparkle! Wow, that is one killer avatar!

Posted by: murgatroyd

Be sure to cruise by the QE website if you haven't already. Full of fun tidbits like this:

quote:
Originally posted by WinBear
From the Bravo website:

JAI RODRIGUEZ'S CULTURE GUIDE

The Queer Eye Theme Song:

WIDELIFE: "ALL THINGS"
Working with the idea that the Fab Five are on a mission "to make over the world one straight guy at time," superdance duo Widelife ran with the concept and delivered one of the catchiest theme songs on television.

"All Things," featuring the dynamic voice of dancefloor songstress Simone, is a mix of funky beats, rising synths, a percussion that forces you to shake that booty and a catchy little hook that won't leave your head days after hearing it. Of course, we expected nothing less from Widelife after the duo's success with last year's #1 Billboard dance track "I Don't Want You." Watch for the single to drop sometime this summer!

Posted by: doom1701

Well, I think I might ge my back waxed. I'm glad to see they were willing to address that issue. They never did mention if he had his butt waxed, though.

Posted by: murgatroyd

Oh, my god, the Tonight Show gig! I have never seen two more uncomfortable straight guys than Leno and Kevin Costner last night when the Fab5 were out. :D

Can't wait to see tonight's show so I can see what Thom Filica has done to the set.

Jan

Posted by: laria

Oh man, I think I pulled something I laughed so hard this week at the Camera Guy episode. I can't believe he left all his porn lying around the house for them to find! Between the porn and the snug fit condoms, it was a tossup between that and the skid marked underwear for "most embarassing opening segment".

"Oh look, it's a book about gay people! The Rainbow Goblin."

"Building bridges, one manicure at a time."

"Nothing says drama like fire! Take a tip from the French...flambe!"

Posted by: Fleegle

quote:
Originally posted by murgatroyd
Oh, my god, the Tonight Show gig! I have never seen two more uncomfortable straight guys than Leno and Kevin Costner last night when the Fab5 were out. :D

Can't wait to see tonight's show so I can see what Thom Filica has done to the set.

Jan

I didn't think Leno was uncorfortable, but Manb, Costnet looked like he just wanted to run away screaming. He was hugging teh right side of his chair like the fab 5 were going to give him the gay cooties, and he was literally HUGGING himself! I laughed my ass of for that whole segment.

Posted by: jsmeeker

The Leno segment was OK.. Too bad I'll miss tonight's (flying home, no SP for Tonight Show). I enjoyed the full hour of Queer Eye. The marriage proposal was good. The guy did everything right. He sure did have to light lots of candles.

Posted by: doom1701

quote:
Originally posted by laria
"Oh look, it's a book about gay people! The Rainbow Goblin."

"Building bridges, one manicure at a time."

"Nothing says drama like fire! Take a tip from the French...flambe!"

Don't forget (and this isn't a perfect quote):

"Show this one to Ted--it's about girls that like to eat things!"

Posted by: dthmj

The Andrew episode was great. We watched it last night, and woke the kids up from laughing so hard.

And Andrew cleaned up pretty good (not as good as Butch) - I was suprised.

Posted by: Tori

I thought that Costner might be having an "I'm too big of a star to be on with these guys" kind of reaction. Either way he definitely looked ridiculously uncomfortable, and it was funny to watch.

-Tori

Posted by: pkscout

My wife and I saw the single episode of Queer Eye for a Straight Guy NBC showed, and all I have to say is thank god for TiVo. We were laughing so hard the first half hour we had to keep going back to hear stuff we missed.

Too bad we don't get Bravo here. :(

Posted by: doom1701

quote:
Originally posted by Tori
I thought that Costner might be having an "I'm too big of a star to be on with these guys" kind of reaction. Either way he definitely looked ridiculously uncomfortable, and it was funny to watch.

-Tori

That's so ironic that it's probably true. :)

Posted by: murgatroyd

Well? I watched Live last night.

Don't want to spoil things too much for those of you who are watching on TiVo, but pay special attention to the wrong end of Jay's pastry bag during the food segment with Ted. :D

Jan

Posted by: Tori

You can also vote on keeping the QE set, or returning to the old set. Don't click there if you don't want to see the new set yet.

-Tori

Posted by: EchoBravo

It may have been a few weeks ago now, but Carson's line that makes me laugh when I think about it still is "Do you have bad credit or just bad taste?"

Posted by: doom1701

OK, I'm just too curious, and I'm gonna have to risk turning this thread ugly. Has there been any backlash against this show? Granted, it's still pretty "niche", but it seems like there would be protests or something about a show with 5 gay guys. But I haven't seen anything...

Posted by: scottjf8

Such as what, Tim? Because there's not 5 gay and 1 straight guy (besides the one being made fun of .. ERR made over?)

Or because a few of them are very .. ummm... can I use the word flaming? (Carson .. Jai)

Personally, I love this show... it's funny, entertaining, and somewhat educational... When I'm hanging up my laundry now and I see a wire hanger, I can hear Carson in my head going "NO WIRE HANGERS!!" :)

Posted by: doom1701

quote:
Originally posted by scottjf8
Such as what, Tim? Because there's not 5 gay and 1 straight guy (besides the one being made fun of .. ERR made over?)

Or because a few of them are very .. ummm... can I use the word flaming? (Carson .. Jai)

Personally, I love this show... it's funny, entertaining, and somewhat educational... When I'm hanging up my laundry now and I see a wire hanger, I can hear Carson in my head going "NO WIRE HANGERS!!" :)

Because they're 5 gay guys who are gaining popularity. From some of the discussions that have taken place in HH, I'd imagine that there are groups that are very offended by anyone who's gay being on TV, let alone popular and possibly in a position of being role models.

Granted, I'm not part of any of those groups, and I doubt those that are are regular readers of this particular thread. I'm just kinda surprised I've heard nothing...

Posted by: dswallow

I think the 11 people who do all the complaining about this sort of thing for a living are sorta hoping to get picked for a makeover, so they're being quiet for now.

Posted by: Fustanella

There's also an inclusiveness to the stereotypical "gay side of the fence" that doesn't seem to be on the other side of that wall. To wit: I'm trying to picture "Straight Eye for the Queer Guy" and don't see it working out.

Posted by: laria

I voted for the new set...the old set is fairly hideous.

I loved the part during the design where Jai gave the "call me" signal to the guy in the furniture store. :)

Posted by: BeanMeScot

quote:
Originally posted by Fustanella
There's also an inclusiveness to the stereotypical "gay side of the fence" that doesn't seem to be on the other side of that wall. To wit: I'm trying to picture "Straight Eye for the Queer Guy" and don't see it working out.

A local radio show is doing this. The guys first did the DJ over and this week, the DJ is turning the tables. He is going to teach the queer guys how to spiral a football and play a game on PS2

Posted by: Fustanella

Milady and I discussed this at lunch. We thought the local pool-hall, barber shop and tool section of Sears would be good places to start. ;)

Posted by: murgatroyd

quote:
Originally posted by Fustanella
There's also an inclusiveness to the stereotypical "gay side of the fence" that doesn't seem to be on the other side of that wall. To wit: I'm trying to picture "Straight Eye for the Queer Guy" and don't see it working out.

Carson said it best: "It's called 'High School'."

Jan

Posted by: Fustanella

Yeah, I can see that, from what my later-out-of-the-closet friends went through then. Heh.

Posted by: jsmeeker

I have heard of no back lash... I mean, why would there be? It's a good, fun show. 5 guys making one guys life a little better. It's done with the best intentions..

Posted by: beldar

quote:
Originally posted by doom1701
Because they're 5 gay guys who are gaining popularity. From some of the discussions that have taken place in HH, I'd imagine that there are groups that are very offended by anyone who's gay being on TV, let alone popular and possibly in a position of being role models.

Stunningly enough, they made an appearance on the Buchanan and Press show on MSNBC last week. I haven't had a chance to watch it yet, but from what I've heard, Pat didn't say a word before or after the (videotaped) bit, and didn't participate in any of the promos.

I bet he was ruing the day he signed up with MSNBC, now another Official Network of the Culture War.

Posted by: Skittles

The show is actually doing much better than anticipated from an advertising standpoint. They've got so many companies wanting to run commercials during Queer Eye that they've got no place to put them.

Usually, advertisers are the first ones to pull out of a controversial show.

Posted by: Redleg

quote:
Originally posted by Fustanella
There's also an inclusiveness to the stereotypical "gay side of the fence" that doesn't seem to be on the other side of that wall. To wit: I'm trying to picture "Straight Eye for the Queer Guy" and don't see it working out.

Over at the Straght Dope there's been a very funny, running thread taking this very tack.

A very small sample:

quote:

FASHION
It's no secret that a lot of gay guys need help here. I think I know what the problem is. They just reach into the closet and grab any old thing that has an impressive label on it. Well, if the sleeves of a suitcoat come down to your fingertips, or barely reach past your elbows, you look like a clown. Doesn't matter what the label is. Remember, "If the suit don't fit, Versace ain't &#$%."
Shoes. Nothing is more comfortable than old shoes. I got a pair of deck shoes that look like they were found on a Peruvian mummy. You'll get them when you pry them from my cold, dead feet.

HOME DECOR.
The basics: Don't buy so much breakable crap. If it's delicate, it's a threat. Straight guys like stuff that can take an errant basketball and all you have to do is pick it up and put it back. Extra points if it's stain resistant. Or just colored so you can't tell.

Other than that, forget all the stereotypes you have heard about straight guys' decor. It does not consist of poker-playing dogs, neon bar signs and girly pictures. The truth is, the typical straight guys' home decor is no decor at all. Why put stuff on the walls you can't just paint over when spills and sprays get too thick? And if you put something on a wall, it's like an admission of defeat that you will never put a home theater there. Straight guys decorate with electronics.
So keep it simple. You don't have to dust walls.

Posted by: NJChris

quote:
Originally posted by jsmeeker
I have heard of no back lash... I mean, why would there be? It's a good, fun show. 5 guys making one guys life a little better. It's done with the best intentions..

It's also good to show that gay and straight guys can be friendly and not be afraid of each other.

Posted by: grins

"Did you get 'the gay' on me?" ;-)

Posted by: scottjf8

I love when they refer to the people they're making over as "the straight people"....

Posted by: scottjf8

quote:
Originally posted by WinBear
The Queer Eye Theme Song:

WIDELIFE: "ALL THINGS"

Damn, can't find it on Kazaa :)

Posted by: jsmeeker

Is this on NBC again tonight?? I saw a little "bug" last night during The West Wing saying that it would be, but my guide data shows ER.. I even updated the guide last night, and no change..