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Iran, Veiled Appearances (Documentary)
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Posted by: JohnJr

Pretty good stuff on the current situation in Iran. Can anyone help me identify this quote from the show?

quote:
Too bad for me, if the sun does not transport me.
Too bad for us, if we do not take advantage of spring.
If you do not break the glass of sorrow on the stone,
its seven colors will become seventy.

It's not in the Koran, or at least not as such. Is there some sort of book that normally accompanies the Koran (like song books in Churches) where I might look?

The quote was spoken by the right hand man of Khatami, who was previously injured in an assasination attempt, at some sort of public speech. The crowd knew the saying as well as he did, and repeated it with him.

-John

Posted by: JohnJr

Heck here's the whole speech... (I guess you can figure I liked it ;) )

quote:

Announcer: I wish to announce that our dear brother, Mr. Said Hajaran,
who was mutilated for the reforms, is among us tonight.

[crowd cheers and chants "Down with terrorism" as he is helped on stage.]

Announcer: The deputy of the city of Tehran was shot and seriously injured. Terrorism is the means of expression of those who feel hated and despised. These terrorists and enemies of the people should know that the Islamic revolution is getting stronger by the day by moving towards the establishment of a popular democracy. Said Hajaran, you represent the hopes of a new generation!

Hajaran:

There is a price to pay for reform. Our friends have paid the price. Our friends in prison have paid the price. People like me, who have been wounded, have paid the price. Khatami, more than anyone, has paid the price. I am willing to pay more!

[crowd cheers and chants "Long live Hajaran! Union! Union! Victory to the reforms!"]

Too bad for me, if the sun does not transport me.
Too bad for us, if we do not take advantage of spring.
If you do not break the glass of sorrow on the stone,
its seven colors will become seventy.

[crowd goes wild]

-John :)

Posted by: chris1

Iranians generally don't quote the Koran; they quote Hafez, their favorite poet. The quote probably comes from him or another Persian poet.

Posted by: JohnJr

Cool Chris! Thank you for the clue!

-John

Posted by: JohnJr

quote:
Originally posted by chris1
Iranians generally don't quote the Koran; they quote Hafez, their favorite poet. The quote probably comes from him or another Persian poet.

Chris, I'm curious how you knew this. Are you Iranian or is this something you have studied? Here's a good link on Persian poetry.

From that article it seems that I may not get my hands on many English translations of Hafez, and what Persian poetry is out there in English may not be all that good (the translation I mean). :( Do you have any particular recommendations of books to start with, by any chance?

-John

Posted by: Faro

Check out the poet Firdawsi and his epic poem, "The Book of Kings" or "Shah-nameh"

Posted by: tnili

Not sure where that quote is from but here are some Persian poets of note:

Omar Kayyam: Rudyard Kipling translations are probably the best introduction to Persian poetry.

Firdausi: Shah-Nameh ("Book of Kings"). He is renowned for preserving the history of Persian Kings before the Arab invasion. He also spruced things up with a lot entertaining fiction ("Rostam-e-Zal").

Saadi: Great poet but translations may not do him justice.

Hafez: The pinacle of Persian poetry. Again, translations may not convey the original meanings.

Posted by: Fustanella

Rumi: simple mysterious beauty in poetry, and founder of the Mevlevi ("whirling") Dervish order way back when. I've had a brief taste of that movement in a sacred-dance seminar, and it's just short of incredible.

Posted by: JohnJr

Thank you all for the suggestions! I'm off to the library!

-John

Posted by: dmets

Heads up on on replays? What channel? Thanks. I have liked the recent Discovery Times docus on current events - was this one of them?

Dustin

Posted by: JohnJr

dmets,

I'm pretty sure it is Sundance Channel, and I believe there are still a couple of upcoming showings, or at least there where when I started this thread. I think it's an independent documentary, not associated with any series.

-John