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Wil Wheaton on The Screensavers
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Posted by: Gunnyman2k3

Was REALLY good I thought.

Tech TV should hire him as a permanent host.
He was just geeky enough for us other geeks to get it. Really enjoyed watching him host.

Posted by: Swirl_Junkie

Couldn't agree more. I think he and Kevin should take over the show.
Kevin is the only one with anything new and interesting on there anyways, well at least new to me.
I like Yoshi and Sarah too, maybe they should start a hack and mod show. I'm sure it would do better than CFH or the Screen Savers.
Just my two cents.

Posted by: Big Deficit

I'll jump on this bandwagon. Wil was very good and he and Kevin make a good team. I think it's time for a youth movement at the Screen Savers!!!

Posted by: scottjf8

Forget that, I want an all eye-candy show, starring Jessica, Sarah, and Morgan. Cat and Megan can guest star (and maybe even big lipped Kate can stop by sometimes.) :)

Posted by: super dave

I thought Wil was a natural, relaxed and enjoying himself. I feel if he should replace anyone it should be Pat. His know it all pompous attitude can get old. Especially when he acts like his is physically threatening someone, or breaks out the sledgehammer. What is he a wrestler? Sorry, but I think the show is severely lacking without Leo. He just pumps life and excitement into the show. He is probably a taskmaster, but it doesn't translate to TV. Just my .02.

Posted by: super dave

And I almost forgot, Leo's huge pumpkin head can fill up my TV screen, like no one else!

Posted by: Gunnyman2k3

Wil and Leo with teh girls and Kate as extra special guest star.
Works for me.
I have never cared for Patrick Norton.
He needs to spit the marbles out of his mouth before he goes on the air.
I think Wil Wheaton can handle Leo's propensity to talk over someone else.
I can hear him telling Leo to shut his trap.

Posted by: JimSpence

Has anyone else noticed that when Patrick shakes hands with someone his palm is down? Is that a west coast thing?

Posted by: cnshough

quote:
Originally posted by Swirl_Junkie
Couldn't agree more. I think he and Kevin should take over the show.
Kevin is the only one with anything new and interesting on there anyways, well at least new to me.
I like Yoshi and Sarah too, maybe they should start a hack and mod show. I'm sure it would do better than CFH or the Screen Savers.
Just my two cents.

I completely concur. The nights that Kevin steps in for Leo are very enjoyable. And Sarah, oh man! Give that girl more face time! And what's the deal with the way Patrick shakes hands? OMG! Has anybody else noticed it? Get a grip, dude!

I should edit to say I don't want Kevin to take over for Leo, though. Just give him something else to do.

Posted by: super dave

quote:
Originally posted by JimSpence
Has anyone else noticed that when Patrick shakes hands with someone his palm is down? Is that a west coast thing?

I don't know about that, he's originally from Jersey. Could be an Ego thing.

Posted by: Rosenkavalier

Re. Patrick: I've maintained for quite a while (and I think I've posted on these boards before) that Patrick is, unfortunately, the weak link for TSS. It doesn't have anything to do with his knowledge -- the problem are with his TV "skills".

If all it took was knowledge, I'd head to San Fran tonight. The problem is that you're doing a live TV show -- technology-focused, but it's still TV. That means you have to have or develop the skills needed for TV work.

Patrick's problem is that he freezes when the TelePrompter doesn't keep up with his reading, and he freezes when the producer or director talk to him over the earpiece. Those are the two most fundamental things anyone on live TV has to master, and after all this time he still can't manage them.

Use Leo as a comparison: he is quite capable of moving on when the prompter is slow or fast, and he seems to handle the 'voice in the ear' quite well. Sometimes Leo gets himself in trouble by freeing himself from the prompter, but that's what a good TV host does -- he's not glued to the scrolling text.

Contrast Patrick and Kevin, and Pat comes out looking pretty bad. I really believe that some folks just have certain talents for this stuff, and the rest of us (myself included) just can't handle it.

Posted by: Swirl_Junkie

I hadn't really noticed the Pat handshake, but what's with the clapping on the top of his hand? palm to knuckles? Does he have some sort of injury?

Posted by: bkmunroe

quote:
Originally posted by Swirl_Junkie
I hadn't really noticed the Pat handshake, but what's with the clapping on the top of his hand? palm to knuckles? Does he have some sort of injury?

That's his "golf clap". Apparently, he thinks it's amusing.

Actually, I think Leo is the weak link. He's just too much in love with his own voice. It's rare that someone can speak 2 sentences without Leo butting in.

I wouldn't mind if they got rid of both Pat and Leo. It's much more entertaining when the "kids" take over.

Posted by: DARC

Liked will very much and he had good chemistry with Keven. Good combo for times with Pat and Leo hit the road.

When Pat is left to himself with one of the girls, the show is painful. They have good TV skills but can't tech themselves out of a blue screen. Only Morgan Webb has demonstrated any technical ability. Sarah needs a script and TelePrompter, Jessica is a great personality but zero skills, Megan never stood out for me in any way, I never saw Kate.

Pat tends to be the straight man, the guy who acts in embarrassment at his co-host. A job that Leo fills wonderfully. Keven behaves much the same way as Pat. Will was able to bring the spontaneity of Leo into the mix to restore the old Pat/Leo banter.

Pat has come up with lots of geek jokes that I've appreciated.

My personal name for Leo is "Mr Freudian Slip"

Posted by: Gunnyman2k3

Kate Botello was a Goddess.
I miss her.

Posted by: Lastword24

Has anyone ever found out why Chris Pirillo left the show? Seems like there was some mystery surrounding his departure . . .

Posted by: Gunnyman2k3

Chris was on Call for Help.
Leo wanted to do Call For Help again.
He was its original host.
Man I way WAY too much about ZD/TECH TV..
;)

Posted by: Hoffer

I deleted my last TechTV Season Pass about 2 months ago. I watched that channel night and day when I first got it 3 years ago. They just seem to say the same things over and over again after a while.

Posted by: rtype

I really like Leo. I think he's a true professional at broadcasting and someone like him is needed on the show.

That said, Kevin Rose is the reason to watch the show for me and Wil Wheaton was an awesome co-host with Kevin. I'd have no problem at all seeing this become a permanent thing.

I visited Wil's home page today in hopes of expressing myself over there--but found that there wasn't really a right place to say that there. What I discovered is that... well, let's just say that I think Wil on Screensavers might help bring in some of the female demographic.

And I don't mean to go all alternative lifestyle here, but Kevin does have a good on-screen charisma, too. I think those two together are a perfect balance -- it's immediately obvious that they really know what they're talking about and keep folks like us happy but they still have a great tv presence.

Posted by: Fustanella

Loved Wil's comment to the guy with the cooling fan talking about making a computer blow. "So, you're gonna load Windows ME on it?" :D

Posted by: Swirl_Junkie

On this same line of thought... has anyone else watched the broken yet?
http://www.thebroken.org/
I thought episode one was pretty decent, and look forward to more of this.

Posted by: skearney00

I guess I'm going to be in the minority here. Wil was alright, but I thought he tried to hard to be funny. Plus, MS bashing is getting really tired. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing him fill-in a little more.

Although I usually enjoy seeing Kevin's segments--the whole 'dark tipper' thing is getting really annoying. He used to laugh off his moniker, but now I think he's buying into it. I always laugh when he condescendingly mentions script kiddies, because, at best, that's all he is. As far as "the broken" goes...it was mildly amusing, but mostly just self-serving.

Leo can definitely be a little overbearing, but he is the only one on that show that knows how to conduct an interview. Watching Jessica and especially Morgan do those Hollywood press junkets is just painful--not to mention pointless.

Is Meagan ever coming back from maternity leave?

Posted by: Frylock

Meagan is back. She cut a deal to work at home editing Leo's book.

Morgan and Jessica doing press interviews is pointless because they don't know anything. But Leo takes himself too seriously. It's not like TSS is some highly watched program...

Posted by: TV addict

quote:
Originally posted by skearney00
I guess I'm going to be in the minority here. Wil was alright, but I thought he tried to hard to be funny. Plus, MS bashing is getting really tired. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing him fill-in a little more.

Although I usually enjoy seeing Kevin's segments--the whole 'dark tipper' thing is getting really annoying. He used to laugh off his moniker, but now I think he's buying into it. I always laugh when he condescendingly mentions script kiddies, because, at best, that's all he is. As far as "the broken" goes...it was mildly amusing, but mostly just self-serving.

Leo can definitely be a little overbearing, but he is the only one on that show that knows how to conduct an interview. Watching Jessica and especially Morgan do those Hollywood press junkets is just painful--not to mention pointless.

Is Meagan ever coming back from maternity leave?

I agree with most of what you said.

The MS bashing is getting old. TSS did not even mention WIN 2003 server until there was a patch released. When WIN 2003 server and the new version of Visual Studio was released, TSS was spending days discussing a movie (was is latest Loard of the Rings, I forget).

I haven't seen anybody comment about the phone question they had 2 or 3 weeks ago. Someone called in to ask what DTiVo they should purchase. Leo and Patrick stated there were only series 1 versions of DTiVo. The caller told them there was a series 2 released a couple of months ago. I know, not technocoly a series 2, and was released more than a couple months ago. Leo and Patrick were surprised. They stated the the advantage of series 1 was easier to hack. But then stated that HMO provided most of the features that you hack for. So, they stated it didn't matter. Of course they didn't know about the newer DTiVos, and so didn't know that HMO was not offerred. And they try to make people think they are experts on TiVo.

I find TSS giving out alot of incorrect info.

Kevin is basically a script kiddie. I don't think he knows that much about computers. He just demos programs that are available (probably referred to him by others). He probably could not administrate a corporate server.

Leo is irratating. He is alway interupting the people he interviews. Making jokes, and then runs out of time. If he wouldn't be such a joker, topics could be covered better.

95% of the celebrity interviews are of no value or interest.

TSS does not cover advanced technology. I wish it would cover higher tech, but I can understand that the viewer are not there for more advanced topics. But, because of that the show attracts allot of kids. You can tell by the number of kids that call in with questions. Because of that, the show should clean up the jokes. They do seem to get crude. I am far from a prude. But, with that many kids watching the show, they should cool it.

Stephen

Posted by: super dave

quote:
Originally posted by TV addict

95% of the celebrity interviews are of no value or interest.
Stephen

I couldn't agree more, I tune that entire segment out. I really don't care what celebrities think or do, they don't often come across as very tech savvy. Or they brag that they can afford a zillion dollars worth of gear, but aren' real sure what to do with it all. Thank God I don't have to hear "Any Celeb, EMail Me" by Martin anymore.
I agree with the the darktipper being overdone. It was stupid to start with. Does anyone really think Paul Allen is going to let them show how to really hack anything? And now he is D Tip or some lame attempt at humor. He should just count his lucky stars that he has hooked up with Sara. Sometimes the eye candy shouldn't even speak. You can tell they are reading someone else's thoughts.
Boy am I cranky today. Mondays suck!

Posted by: Swirl_Junkie

I'm not debating that Kevin is not a script kiddie, I totally think he is.
However, he brings alot of cool programs that I might not ever see to the table.

I'm not an administrator, but I would love to see a more advanced show on TechTv. I'm not really into hacking either, but I think it's interesting from a defense standpoint.
For me guests like Chris Dibona, and Kevin and Yoshi segments are why I watch.
For example, xbox mod week. I don't have an xbox, and I know they barely scratched the surface, but after seeing those episodes I really wanted one.

Either way, I've already heard the news they report at the top of the show, the windows tips and registry hacks are generally lame. And the calls are generally not really answered correctly , or a call that should have gone to call for help in the first place.

I'd just like to see more advanced subjects, and Kevin is really the only one bringing them on. Quite a few of Kevins subjects have been featured on slashdot, and maybe if they started covering geekier stuff, they would develop a techier audience.
Then they could push all the nonsense calls that someone could google an answer out to Call for Help.
And Leo is very innapropriate at times, I totally agree.

Posted by: super dave

Jessica, who says her aunt is Debbie Boone, is looking great tonight. They are using her all wrong! They should stick her in a bikini, set her on a beach with a laptop and call it..........Wild On, Tech TV Goes Topless..I mean Tropic!
Honestly, I wish they would complete a topic, demonstrate high tech and rid the Celeb spots. I'm tired of "You can read all about it at TSS.com", yet the show notes are as incomplete as the show was.

Posted by: skearney00

quote:
Originally posted by super dave
I'm tired of "You can read all about it at TSS.com", yet the show notes are as incomplete as the show was.

Don't get me started on that. One, you're right, the notes rarely go into much more detail than what made it on-air. And two, if I wanted to read about, I'd go to the dang website in the first place--or better yet, google it. TSS just doesn't take advantage of the medium they're given. They wasted like 3 or 4 segments on the potato launcher the other day. Imagine if they gave Kevin or Yoshi that much time to demonstrate something.

Posted by: Cyru5

Wil and Kevin made a good pair, but here are my suggestions for the show:

Leo and Kevin should be the hosts
More product testing and reviews
More segments on Linux, modding, overclocking, and TiVo of course
More babe exposure
No more celeb interviews
Finally less bullshit

PS I think Kevin knows more about computers and hacking then you might think. Does anyone remember the TSS episode about 2 years ago when they had a hacker on the show(the one with the blue ski mask on) and he showed how to infiltrate a Windows 98 system with file/printer sharing enabled through telnet. This is a guess but i think the hacker might have been Kevin. Just a theory. :confused:

Posted by: dcheesi

Wil was a little forced, I'd say. Trying a bit too hard. Still, he has potential.

Personally, I think Patrick's alright, although expendable. The one thing he's got going for him is that he seems to deal with Leo well. If they wanted Kevin to host, they'd have to replace Leo as well; I don't think Kevin has the confidence or experience to withstand Leo's personality for long. Also, I'd say Kevin is a little past script-kiddie level in the areas he's most involved in (file-sharing/warez and personal security); however, in the black-hat arena he's clearly a wannabe at best.

As for show content, this is clearly a "variety show", something that brings together all the elements from other TechTV shows. If you're only interested in one element, you're better off watching one of their other shows (Fresh Gear, Call for Help, etc.,etc.). Besides, one of joys of TiVo is being able to watch a show like this without being bored to tears sitting through the uninteresting segments.

Posted by: johnh123

What is the deal with Patrick wearing a skirt now and again? Give me a break.

Posted by: Fustanella

Hey now. :D

If that's what I think you're describing of Patrick, it's from http://www.utilikilts.com, and they're very comfortable and practical. Chicks dig 'em too!

Posted by: JimSpence

Patrick Norton, as in Irish, as in kilts!

Posted by: Hunter Green

A bit spendy, though. My wife wants one for me but it's never quite been worth the cost. :|

Posted by: super dave

quote:
Originally posted by Swirl_Junkie
Either way, I've already heard the news they report at the top of the show, the windows tips and registry hacks are generally lame. And the calls are generally not really answered correctly , or a call that should have gone to call for help in the first place.

The problem I have with the registry edits is that they don't take their time and explain exactly it is they are doing. If they would cut out the filler garbage and explain values and why they are editing them it would help out a lot of people. You know folks are watching that never even heard of the registry, except for births and weddings, and they get in there and really foul things up by poking around. We all know this is territory that shouldn't be toyed with, and the show only raises a curiosity factor.

Posted by: Mr. Funny Pants

quote:
Originally posted by Frylock
Meagan is back. She cut a deal to work at home editing Leo's book.

Megan is now working for Call for Help. She couldn't work out a deal with TSS to work part time or to arrange on site daycare for her baby. CFH was willing to accomodate her as a web associate producer.