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Posted by: Eight47

Artical about Ali and June.

'Big Brother' Net feeds Turn Vile

By JOHN POWELL -- Jam! Showbiz

The "Big Brother 4" reality show sunk to new lows with two of the finalists making racial remarks and verbally attacking another player's young daughter on the live 24/7 Internet feeds.

Alison Irwin, the 22-year-old retail salesperson from Pittsburgh, and Jun Song, the 27-year-old investment manager from New York, infamous for their persistent personal attacks on the other HouseGuests, ranted on the other finalist, Robert Roman - the 33-year-old former restaurant manager from California - last night.

Enraged over Roman trying to split their alliance up by pitting one against the other, Alison and Jun went on a verbal tirade against him as they exercised alone in the backyard. Robert was inside the house and out of earshot.

"I want to put my fist through his face," said Alison as she jogged with some weights.

Jun threatened to destroy a present Robert had made for his young daughter.

"That b**** is never going to see it," said Jun. "Elena's butterfly? I'm sorry that b**** can forget about that f***ing butterfly. I'll tear that s**t apart."

Robert has won all of the America's Choice competitions voted on by this year's viewers and has received a phone call and letters from his daughter as prizes.

Still seething over Robert's manipulations, Jun leveled personal attacks against Robert's Cuban heritage and his family.

"His father should've stayed in Cuba. His family is like...No speaky English," Jun said to Alison. They both agreed to send Robert "back on a boat to Cuba" during this week's live eviction vote.

"I vote to evict your sorry motherf***ing Cuban ass out," said Alison of how she wants to humiliate Robert on the live broadcast Wednesday night.

This is not the first time Jun and Alison have directed racial remarks towards the former restaurant manager. A few nights ago, Alison called Robert a "Cuban faggot" when she alerted him of a producer's request that he go to the Diary Room, a private confessional room in the 'Big Brother' house.

CBS has not aired any of Jun or Alison's past off-colour remarks on the "Big Brother 4" television series.

Disgusted by the constant barrage of insults, Internet fans flooded various forums and message boards devoted to the reality show series with their sense of outrage and disappointment.

"I feel like I'm eavesdropping on a grade-school conversation on the playground," wrote 'Ship of Fools' on BBChatter.com.

"There are b****s and then there are low life w****s like Jun and Ali", stated a 'BB3 Fan' in the same fan forum.

In Jam! Showbiz's 24/7 "Big Brother 4" chat, readers also spoke their minds.

"Ali and Jun the final two?? I hate this show. How could something so entertaining go to the toilet so quickly. BB4 is truly the worse one ever and I won't be watching next year. I wish the producers would show the evicted HouseGuests tapes of the comments that Ali and Jun are making. I'm not sure what good it would do but it would certainly make for interesting television," wrote Kelsey.

With the second part of Big Brother Four's final Head of Household Competition over and done with, it seems assured that Alison and Jun will be this year's finalists. On the 24/7 "Big Brother 4" live Internet feeds Sunday afternoon, viewers learned that Jun beat Robert in the second portion of the three part HOH Competition. While feed watchers didn't actually see the competition take place due to the usual "black out" enforced by the producers, the aftermath confirmed the results which will not air until Tuesday or Wednesday night on the television series.

In the 'Big Brother' show, contestants must remain in a house on the CBS Studio lot in California for three months without contact with the outside world. The 'Big Brother' house is outfitted with 38 cameras and 62 microphones, which record the lives of the 12 contestants 24 hours a day. The goings-on are broadcast on TV as well as live over the Internet. Each week the contestants vote one of their own out until just two are left. The final surviving HouseGuests are then subjected to a final jury vote to determine the winner.

In last year's edition, Lisa Donahue, the 26-year-old former L.A. bartender turned photographer took home the grand prize of $500,000. Danielle Reyes, the 30-year-old media buyer from California came in second place winning $50,000.

Will Kirby, a 28-year-old physician from Florida won 'Big Brother 2'. Nicole, the 31-year-old personal chef from Atlanta, was the second place finisher.

Eddie McGee, the New Yorker who lost his left leg to cancer, won a half million dollars as the winner of the first U.S. 'Big Brother' after the viewers and not a jury of evicted HouseGuests voted for him during a finale phone poll.

The season finale of "Big Brother 4" airs on September 24th on CBS.

Posted by: Eight47

Here is a link to the conversation:

pay attention to what Jun wants to do to Elina's butterflies...

If you want to listen.. go here, http://www.mortystv.com/big_brother.shtml
Look for where Morty gives a link for "Spread a little sunshine".. it will bring you an audio clip. (scroll down to 11:30AM: Rob Plays his Only Card or under Monday, September 15, 2003: Another Day 9:00PM

BE WARNED there is MUCH MUCH MUCH SWEARING.. so do not listen to it with minors in the room...

Posted by: Maui

I really do hate those two. Calling Roberts Daughter the same name that they were so outraged that Robert called them is just evil.

I don't care how good of a game they played they don't deserve the money.

If Donny (Alis boyfriend) does not dump her for her constant flirtation at the beginning of the game maybe he will dump her for just being such a evil B*tch

Posted by: Skittles

All of the sudden, Robert's comments towards these two seem justified, no matter how vulgar they are.

Attacking Robert is fine. His daughter, though? That's just plain tacky.

Here's hoping Donnie sees the light of day and dumps Ali.

Posted by: dphelps1

Scott tossing a few chairs around an empty kitchen suddenly doesn't seem so bad in comparison to the behavior of these two. :rolleyes:

These people are detestable.

Posted by: jmoak

and, as usual in "reality" shows like this,

the most despicable, nastiest, least deserving of the group always wins the big money.

Doncha' just love reality tv?

Posted by: ufo4sale

I think Jun's best bet to win the money is if she takes Robert. If she takes Alison then she would probably lose because Alison played the better game then Jun.

Posted by: martinp13

As much as I hated Robert and the Stooges in the mid-game, I hate Alison even worse now. Jun I think is echoing Ali to some extent, but it's hard to tell.

And Alison will win, so I'll be pissed off about this whole series. I don't care if she deserves it... I don't want her to get it.

Posted by: walters

quote:
Originally posted by Eight47
If you want to listen.. go here, http://www.mortystv.com/big_brother.shtml
Look for where Morty gives a link for "Spread a little sunshine".. it will bring you an audio clip. (scroll down to 11:30AM: Rob Plays his Only Card or under Monday, September 15, 2003: Another Day 9:00PM

Yikes, what a couple of losers. I'm only five minutes into it and I'm sickened by these two.

I'm even more sickened by the fact that CBS isn't likely to give us the slightest impression of what these two are really like.

Posted by: Skittles

quote:
Originally posted by walters
I'm even more sickened by the fact that CBS isn't likely to give us the slightest impression of what these two are really like.

I agree with you, walters. Although, I wish/hope they'd show this sort of nonsense to the jury at the very least.

Posted by: Redstixxx

quote:
Originally posted by walters
Yikes, what a couple of losers. I'm only five minutes into it and I'm sickened by these two.

I'm even more sickened by the fact that CBS isn't likely to give us the slightest impression of what these two are really like.

Based on the summary of the live feeds posted on jokersupdates.com, Jun and Ali are really like what you see on tv.

I personally stopped watching BB4 after Erica was evicted. It makes me sick to see Jun and Ali gloat.

This season of BB4 was the worst I've seen yet. No real surprises, no real twists, boring competitions, majority of houseguests are unlikeable. Yuck!!

Posted by: timr_42

quote:
Originally posted by Skittles
I agree with you, walters. Although, I wish/hope they'd show this sort of nonsense to the jury at the very least.

And do what, they will have to vote for one of these lovely ladies. It's ok to show Robert saying the stupid things he said, but not for these two. This will be the worst ending for BB yet. I really can't stand any of the three, but the two women have been the worst.

Posted by: EchoBravo

I said it first weeks ago. The best BB4 episode possible would be somebody throwing a toaster into that jacuzzi with those two <c-word rethought and deleted>.

What a disgusting pair of human debris. Just take solace in the fact they'll only be a "big deal" for about a month after this. "At places like the Olive Garden." :D

Posted by: TivoDaddy

quote:
Originally posted by timr_42
And do what, they will have to vote for one of these lovely ladies. It's ok to show Robert saying the stupid things he said, but not for these two. This will be the worst ending for BB yet. I really can't stand any of the three, but the two women have been the worst.

Especially since Skeletor made it a big thing when she asked Robert about the quote. I doubt that CBS will air any of this since then who would want to see either of these two low-lifes win $500K. :down: :down: :down: :down:

Posted by: nevermind

I told my wife the other day that I think Alison will win the game - but she better use the money to change her appearance, name, and where she lives because if she doesn't, I'm quite confident that bitch will grow old and die alone. Who in the hell would want to marry that evil bitch? I shudder to think what she'd do for more than $500K. Imagine if the prize was $5 million. She'd probably kill the other two in their sleep :).

Evil, evil bitch.

Posted by: pmyers

I can't believe nobody has mentioned how funny it was when that mime did his impression of Robert. I almost fell off the couch. Actually the entire mime thing was great. Annoying to the rest of the house ;)

Posted by: KRS

quote:
Originally posted by pmyers
I can't believe nobody has mentioned how funny it was when that mime did his impression of Robert. I almost fell off the couch. Actually the entire mime thing was great. Annoying to the rest of the house ;)

And I'm glad that some internet chatter asked him that question too.

Regarding the racial slurs, didn't Erica say Jee was fresh off the boat or something? I understand the need to gossip and backstab in the game, but don't any of these people realize that they are on TV and the internet? Really, only Jack and Jee have showed any restraint in that area (and Justin to a lesser extent).

It boggles the mind.

Posted by: youbetcha

quote:
Originally posted by KRS
And I'm glad that some internet chatter asked him that question too.

Regarding the racial slurs, didn't Erica say Jee was fresh off the boat or something? I understand the need to gossip and backstab in the game, but don't any of these people realize that they are on TV and the internet? Really, only Jack and Jee have showed any restraint in that area (and Justin to a lesser extent).

It boggles the mind.

I totally agree!! Allison has played the best game, BUT she's SO vicious and nasty with her comments about everyone. Ally and Jun rip on Robert for saying nasty things and they turn around and say even worse things about him and his daughter! If Donny sticks with her (they've been going out a whole 2 months before the show started, right?), I'd be amazed!

I too thought the mime was hilarious because he was pissing everyone off. I thought Jun was going to spit her drink across the room when he came back. His imitation of Robert was priceless.

This has been the most uninteresting BB to date. I don't want anyone of them to win the 500K.

Posted by: TeeSee

This is exactly why it's a bad idea to not allow the jurors see what goes on in the house after they leave. Especially the diary room stuff. I didn't understand that decision before and I still don't.

If this isn't changed for the next season's show then that's it for me. No more Big Brother. And I thought I hated Tian and Jeree from TAR. lol

Posted by: vertigo235

quote:
Originally posted by TeeSee
This is exactly why it's a bad idea to not allow the jurors see what goes on in the house after they leave. Especially the diary room stuff. I didn't understand that decision before and I still don't.

If this isn't changed for the next season's show then that's it for me. No more Big Brother. And I thought I hated Tian and Jeree from TAR. lol

I agree to a certaine extent. I think they should be able to see the show, but not the diary room stuff.

Posted by: cello

You know what I think would be a good concept for a revamp next year? Instead of voting people out of the house, vote them out of the competition. They have to stay in the house, and perhaps compete in food competitions and/or luxury competitions. But once they are voted "out" they don't have a chance to win and can't compete in HoH or veto competitions. It would definitely keep things from getting stale, and could add some very intereting dynamics to the house!

Posted by: loubob57

The quote of the night has to be Jun saying Alison had a "photogenic memory". :)

I don't want either one of the remaining two to win. Arggghhhh! :mad:

Posted by: MarkofT

They called that show "The Family". ;)

Posted by: cello

At least Elena got her daddy back.

I'm pulling for Jun, just because she disgusts me less. And Ali's parents are annoying.

Posted by: TeeSee

quote:
Originally posted by loubob57
The quote of the night has to be Jun saying Alison had a "photogenic memory". :)

You beat me to it. I nearly fell off my seat when she said that. :D

Posted by: appleye1

quote:
Originally posted by cello
You know what I think would be a good concept for a revamp next year? Instead of voting people out of the house, vote them out of the competition. They have to stay in the house, and perhaps compete in food competitions and/or luxury competitions. But once they are voted "out" they don't have a chance to win and can't compete in HoH or veto competitions. It would definitely keep things from getting stale, and could add some very intereting dynamics to the house!

Great idea! And when it gets down to the final 2 let America decide who wins!

Posted by: FuzzyDolly

quote:
Originally posted by appleye1
Great idea! And when it gets down to the final 2 let America decide who wins!

They did that the first year when the guy with one leg won.

Posted by: Steveknj

quote:
Originally posted by cello
At least Elena got her daddy back.

I'm pulling for Jun, just because she disgusts me less. And Ali's parents are annoying.

After watching Ali's parents, I can understand why Ali is the way she is. She seems like the ultimate spoiled brat "beauty queen" who's parents have pushed her into those competitions and who have told her since day one that she's the perfect little queen. Just my impression, did anyone else get this feeling? And btw, I don't find her all that attractive really (looks wise), even though she does have a nice body.

Posted by: LooseWiring

Dear god, her parents must have paid quite well for her to have won a beauty pageant. That or she did alot of "backstage work" with the judges.

Posted by: pmyers

so much for her telling Robert off on live national TV.....

Posted by: TivoDaddy

quote:
Originally posted by Steveknj
After watching Ali's parents, I can understand why Ali is the way she is. She seems like the ultimate spoiled brat "beauty queen" who's parents have pushed her into those competitions and who have told her since day one that she's the perfect little queen. Just my impression, did anyone else get this feeling? And btw, I don't find her all that attractive really (looks wise), even though she does have a nice body.

My thoughts exactly. It's almost as if Ali's Dad said, "My daughter is a backstabbing bitch, because that's how we taught her to be and she has learned from all her competitions as a beauty queen, and we're so proud!" :rolleyes:

If she's the beauty queen from Western Pennsylvania, I don't want to see what the ugly women look like.

pmyers, I was looking forward to that as well. I thought they were going to tell him off and burn him. Well, it was disappointing. I almost wished Ratbert would have stood up to Ali and told her that he would keep his promise of not giving her the money.

I'm through with this show, I can't stand those two.:mad:

Posted by: walters

quote:
Originally posted by TivoDaddy
I'm through with this show, I can't stand those two.:mad:

I feel the same way, although it's too big an investment to not just watch two more hours. Besides, it should be interesting to see the jury grill these two. I only wish they knew before voting what Internet feed viewers know: they would probably all abstain :D

Posted by: TivoDaddy

quote:
Originally posted by walters
I feel the same way, although it's too big an investment to not just watch two more hours. Besides, it should be interesting to see the jury grill these two. I only wish they knew before voting what Internet feed viewers know: they would probably all abstain :D

I'm hoping Dana will pull a "Susan Hawk" like in Survivor 1, and tell off Alie. I really don't care who wins, so at this point I'll probably just FF through to the speeches/questions by the booted HGs next Friday.

I'm sure Ali has pulled the wool over everybody's eyes and will get the votes. Look what she did to Ratbert last night. He was so emotional after the goodbye speech from Jun and Ali. blech

I would hope that at least on Friday's show they show more of the booted HGs in the sequester house just to see where they will be going. I was surprised that they didn't show Erika being pelted by water balloons, as they have adopted this as their indoctrination ritual.

Posted by: pmyers

quote:
Originally posted by TivoDaddy
...I was surprised that they didn't show Erika being pelted by water balloons, as they have adopted this as their indoctrination ritual.

I thought for sure they were going to show it when she was sitting by the pool....

I just knew that CBS couldn't pass up the drama moment of reuniting Robert with his daughter....yuck

Posted by: dthmj

But even I was crying when they were reunited... It was the right thing for CBS to do (let them see each other, not necessarily televise it).

Posted by: bareyb

Well Robert's not exactly a brain trust is he? :D
His PLAN was to threaten the two girls by telling them that he controls the JURY and that he would make sure they come in SECOND? In other words, pick me because the Jury love me... and therefore you will come in second anyway? Kinda backfired eh Rob?

Anyway, I'm just as disgusted with this group as the rest of you. The only person I ever rooted for at all was Justin. Since he left, I haven't cared who won. I still don't care. Ali sucks, but played a better game than Jun. Jun sucks, but slightly less than Ali. Boy, some choice. :rolleyes:

I predict Jun will win simply because everyone in this house is so petty and self centered that they will surely give the money to the person they hate less rather than basing it on who played the better game (except perhaps Jack). I'm thinking they hate Ali less.

The wild card factor is what the "dream team" will do and whether they will influence Nathan and the others. Sounds like Nathan still has the hots for his "snuggle monkey" Ali and based on what Jee said last night, there is no love lost between him and "I don't care if I ever see Jun again for the rest of my life" Jun (Jun actually looked shocked and hurt, what is it with her and thinking her "Ex's" still want her in their lives?).

Most unlikeable group of house guests ever. Still enjoyed it though... :D

Posted by: FLbadgirl

quote:
Originally posted by loubob57
The quote of the night has to be Jun saying Alison had a "photogenic memory". :)

Yeah, I caught that too and was dying laughing! Apparently Alison's memory loves the camera?!?

Both of the remaining women are COMPLETE morons and despite their great efforts to get this far I do not want either of them to win the money.

Posted by: jhausmann

quote:
Originally posted by LooseWiring
Dear god, her parents must have paid quite well for her to have won a beauty pageant. That or she did alot of "backstage work" with the judges.

After BB this year, I'd guess the latter....

Posted by: jhausmann

quote:
Originally posted by walters
I feel the same way, although it's too big an investment to not just watch two more hours. Besides, it should be interesting to see the jury grill these two. I only wish they knew before voting what Internet feed viewers know: they would probably all abstain :D

Two Hours? You don't use your peanut enough....

Posted by: sean67854

You know, the more I think about it, the more the BB4 finals look like a presidential election.

Posted by: packerfan

quote:
Originally posted by LooseWiring
Dear god, her parents must have paid quite well for her to have won a beauty pageant. That or she did alot of "backstage work" with the judges.

If she won, what did the other contestants look like?

Posted by: DaveBogart

I haven't been able yet to read all the posts in this thread but have read quite a few which stated the opinion that neither Jun or Ali deserved to win the money. What would happen if all the jurors agree and refused to award either the prize? Could they do that do you suppose? There's probably something in their contracts that says they have to pick a one, but if there isn't how great would that be to not have a winner at all?

Posted by: cello

going through my season passes in order to figure out impending conflicts, and I just noticed that the last episode of this is at the same time as the season premier of West Wing. No way in heck I'm choosing BB over WW (which is 2nd on my sp list, after Survivor). So y'all will be willing to give in-depth descriptions of what happens, right? :)

(At this point I'm hoping that Ali wins, only so she'll be greeted by family and friends and dumped live by Donny...)