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Survivor 10/23 SPOILERS!!
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Posted by: David Platt

Wow, I can't believe it-- every week, I think it's impossible for me to like Jon any less, then he always goes and finds a way to make me do it.

Why in the hell did he think it was a good idea to shoot his mouth off to the other tribe about them throwing the challenge? That was a MAJOR screwup on his part, and I'm sure the rest of his tribe would love to find out that he did that.

Posted by: mrs-j

All I have to say about this particular episode was OH THANK GOD!

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)

I was so nervous it would be Rupert going!

Jon's a dolt. I have a feeling he's going to be SOL next week.

Posted by: wonderboymi

I'm loving this new season of Survivor.

I hate Jon also, he's a sh*thead.

My heart was in my throat for a few minutes tonight when I thought you know who was going to go, you know who is probably my favorite person on right now.

Posted by: spud

Since the title says spoilers, I'm not going to tag this.

I can usually tell by the editing that whoever looks like they're going really isn't, but this week I fell for it. I was really worried Rupert was leaving too. I guess part of that is that I don't think he can win it. I really hope I'm wrong though.

And I agree about Jon. He's very annoying. He looked truely shocked at TC though.

Posted by: spud

Oh, yeah, and how about Christa? That was impressive that she held as much weight as Osten. From looking at each of them, I would've never guessed she could've carried as much weight as him. Savage is a brute too.

Posted by: jradosh

How classic... Osten can only carry the same weight as a Drake's one female player. :rolleyes:

Posted by: loubob57

Without fear of hyperbole I can say that is the best ep of Survivor I have ever seen! And I've watched all of them.

The shocked look :eek: on Johnny Fairplay's face was priceless. Right up there with Shii Ann when she found out they weren't merging yet (Survivor Thailand).

Posted by: Fleegle

OMFG! Preview Spoiler!!

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)

"Your past has come back to haunt you?" IS this the rumored Ghost Tribe? I can not wait to see next week's episode.

This is the best season of Survivor yet. For about 10 minutes, I thought Rupert was gone. Bravo, Survivor!

Posted by: Z'Loth

Jeff Proest said something in the preview that smacked me upside the head because it would make perfect sense.

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
"Your past has come back to haunt you."

My prediction is that the first six castaways who were voted off will be the jury that decides who becomes the ultimate Survivor.

Posted by: martinp13

Z'Loth: the "ghost tribe" thing has been floating about the spoiler boards forever. I was pretty sure it was going to happen, but no one has come to a consensus on the mechanics of it. That (and the looks on the 10 remaining players' faces) will make that episode worth watching. :)

Posted by: nmiller855

I loved Jon being so smug and calling himself the million dollar man, then being blown away at the revealing of the votes.

Posted by: Bryanmc

This episode was awesome.

It totally reminded me of the scene from When Harry Met Sally and the moving guy has the shirt that says "Don't F#@^ with Mr. Zero".

Rupert is Mr. Zero. Don't mess with him.

Great episode.

Posted by: faerie

Probst needs to stop calling Osten "the strongest player" how about the guy who took the most steriods, maybe... but strongest player? I think we've seen time and time again that he isn't!

It was also pretty courageous of Rupert to bring up the coup to get him out during TC and before the vote was done.

Posted by: Kablemodem

quote:
Originally posted by Z'Loth
Jeff Proest said something in the preview that smacked me upside the head because it would make perfect sense.

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
"Your past has come back to haunt you."

My prediction is that the first six castaways who were voted off will be the jury that decides who becomes the ultimate Survivor.

That's a rip off of Joe Schmoe!

Posted by: TeeSee

The episode was titled, "Me and My Snake". Rupert's snake died at the beginning. As soon as one of the voters at TC referred to Trisha as a snake I knew she was gone.

I loved how Osten dropped the pole as soon as Jeff said, "It's a battle of wills". Are they trying to tell us something with the editing or was that a coincidence? Osten seems to totally lack any semblence of mental strength.

Why did the alliance listen to Jon and not get Christa in on the voting block against Rupert? Supposedly, Jon said they had enough votes. There were three of them, right? How is three out of six the majority?

It was funny how Savage said that Jon was using is social skills (Jon? Social skills?!?) when he arrived to "loot" them. Then he runs his mouth about throwing the challenge, with seemingly no thought that they might think he was discrediting their win. That was so wrong for so many reasons.

Posted by: ccouger

I think it would have been funny when Jon came to loot if he had chosen to take Savage's Armani jacket! Though I suppose looting clothing is probably off limits.

Posted by: pcgrrll

Definitely a great episode! Had me and my girls squirming the entire episode. We were all scared that Rup was going to go.

And, how much more of a wuss could Osten be?? I mean seriously, what a wimp! I imagine he won't be getting many girls after his performance on the show. Come on, scared of a bird? Almost drowning for absolutely no reason? I really thought on last week's episode that he was going to puke drinking the shake..he actually shocked me.

Posted by: fmowry

quote:
Originally posted by ccouger
I think it would have been funny when Jon came to loot if he had chosen to take Savage's Armani jacket! Though I suppose looting clothing is probably off limits.

What's up with the Armani jacket? I think it's funny seeing him wear it a lot. I think it actually helped him in the strenth/endurance competition. The bar on the back of the neck/shoulders hurts more than the actually weight being supported. I'll bet the padding in the should area of the jacket took some strain off the neck. I use a small bar pad to do squats at the gym and I've tried it with the bare bar and the small pad or a towel REALLY helps.

Frank

Posted by: fmowry

My specualtion for the next episode:

Rupert kills Jon after Jon admits to voting for him (shown in highlights for next week).

Both tribes vote to give Rupert the million as thanks.

Frank

Posted by: JSFord

quote:
Why did the alliance listen to Jon and not get Christa in on the voting block against Rupert? Supposedly, Jon said they had enough votes. There were three of them, right? How is three out of six the majority?

They thought Sandra was with them. But She told Rupert and Christa.
I too was afraid Ruper was going.

RUPERT IS THE MAN, lol.

That b***h Trista got what she deserved.

Posted by: MauriAnne

Don't mess with Rupert.

'nuf said.

Posted by: Family

quote:
Originally posted by wonderboymi

My heart was in my throat for a few minutes tonight when I thought you know who was going to go, you know who is probably my favorite person on right now.

That's why "you know who" would never go. The show's producers would not allow it to happen.

Posted by: omnibus

quote:
Originally posted by MauriAnne
Don't mess with Rupert.

'nuf said.

I don't know if he was more pissed or worried at tribal council. He said he was almost ready to cry, and when pressed he said it was in frustration for losing the immunity challenge.

On a more general note. I'd love to be a fly on the wall watching and listening to the tribe members watching the airing of the show. That could be a whole new spin-off series.:)

Posted by: Crrink

I can't believe how much of a wuss Osten is. It's just sad.

Savage during the weight challenge was a perfect example of pure will. Good ol' Johnny Fairplay's strategy of breaking Morgan certainly backfired on him, big time.

Posted by: DancnDude

I think the whole Pelican Pete thing was one of the most memorable moments in Survivor. It was so awesome that the pelican was friendly and was following the Morgan members into the camp. And how he wanted to sit with the people in the shelter LOL

Posted by: Bryanmc

quote:
Originally posted by Family
That's why "you know who" would never go. The show's producers would not allow it to happen.

This isn't like Big Brother where it's all happening live. This all took place months ago.

And while they probably knew at the time that Rupert was going to be popular, it's not as if they were able to get audience data or anything.

He'll go when he's voted off fairly by the team.

Posted by: pmyers

I loved the cannonball challange. I was amazed at how wildly some of the balls seem to fly. I absolutely love Jeff's comments like "she holding as much weight as Osten did and for twice as long"..or something like that. He really likes sticking it to the tribes.

Posted by: TreborPugly

Savage took the right approach in the IC. He locked his knees and didn't move. Of course, locking your knees can mess up your cirulation and cause you pass-out, but it put all the weight on his bones instead of his muscles. Rupert's bend-over technique must have done really nasty things to his back... But I couldn't believe the stupidity of Morgan putting more weight on Rupert when it was obvious the weight he already had was killing him. He would have dropped it before the challenge was over, with 40 pounds less. However, I'm surprised Morgan didn't get in trouble for Savage's comment "you've got to drop one of them." to his team mates deciding the weight distribution. The rule was that only they made the decision, not any other members.

I can't believe Morgan didn't kill and eat that Pelican. Is Pelican really bad eating? If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck...

I couldn't believe that Trish and Jon didn't see their doom as soon as Rupert started talking. How could they be so confident that Sandra didn't tell Rupert. She looked like she'd just eaten a rotten fish when they were talking to her. When I saw Jon smile so much at Trish's response, I was sure he realized which way things were going, and that he'd change his vote. It is really funny that he was so confident before when he was a swing vote, but then didn't consider the possibilities of other people doing the same thing to him.

I also love how honest the Drake tribe is at tribal council. I wonder if there has actually been such honesty in the past, but they just don't show it to us because it reveals too much and kills the suspense.

Posted by: jradosh

quote:
Originally posted by faerie
Probst needs to stop calling Osten "the strongest player" how about the guy who took the most steriods, maybe... but strongest player? I think we've seen time and time again that he isn't!

I think that's Jeff's way of digging at Osten. It's a backhanded insult if you ask me. :D

Posted by: fmowry

Man the bug situation is pretty sickening. I remember in Season 1 when Colleen had a bunch of bites on her legs but man between Ruperts back/sides and the girls face, this must be the most miserable of living conditions of all the episodes.

Frank

Posted by: betamax

As time goes on, my biggest worry is that we'll hear Darrah speak more and more. With fewer people to interview, we're going to be hearing that obnoxious voice too often.

Did Christa hold her weight as long as Osten? I know she had the same amount of weight. She must be stronger than Johnny Fairplay since Drake chose her to compete instead of racking the weights.

As for Jon, what more can I add except that he listed Pabst Blue Ribbon as his favorite alcoholic beverage on the cbs website. What would you expect from a PBR drinker?

Posted by: pmyers

Here is an idea: Do you thing "jonny fairplay" is acting this way on purpose? Meaning, he is acting like the biggest *ss he can be so that everybody will want to take him to the final because they know they can win against him? What if he makes it to the final then drops the act and tells everybody about the act?

Or is he really this much of a goof?

Posted by: TivoDaddy

quote:
Originally posted by pmyers
Here is an idea: Do you thing "jonny fairplay" is acting this way on purpose? Meaning, he is acting like the biggest *ss he can be so that everybody will want to take him to the final because they know they can win against him? What if he makes it to the final then drops the act and tells everybody about the act?

Or is he really this much of a goof?

Don't give him too much credit. The guy is such a goofball and thinks he manipulates everybody like Boston Rob did in the Marcesas season.

This was absolutely the best Survivor episode ever, just ahead of the final episode of Survivor 1. It had so much drama all around.

Nobody has given Sean of the Drake tribe any credit of going with Rupert, Christa and Sandra. The editing during his confessional also had me thinking that Rupert was gone. He said something like "It's my game to win now". Sean also played Jon when he kept telling him that "Everybody has to do, what they need to do."

Osten has now taken over Gervase's spot as the worst Survivor ever. It looks like he's giving up again next episode.

I'm liking Savage more and more. The guy is straight up and plays fair (what we have seen so far).

My favorites to win now (who are left), in order of preference:
-Rupert, Savage, Ryan O., Sandra, Christa, Sean, Darrah, TJ, Osten, Jon.

Posted by: pcgrrll

quote:
My favorites to win now (who are left), in order of preference:-Rupert, Savage, Ryan O., Sandra, Christa, Sean, Darrah, TJ, Osten, Jon.

Pretty close to my favs -

Rupert, Savage, Ryan O., Sandra, Christa, TJ, Darrah, Sean, Osten, Jon.

Of course since it seems like all the people I despise (at least the last 2 season) the most seem to win, it will probably be Jon :(

Posted by: DLiquid

Savage really showed some heart in this episode. I thought Jeff was about to give him a hug after the IC.

Rupert is just classic. Best Survivor contestant ever.

What was up with Christa at TC? Did you notice she had makeup on to cover the horrible bug bites we saw on her just a few hours before? I didn't know they put on makeup before TC. Do you think this was an exception since she looked so messed up?

Posted by: Dashel

"Your past has come back to haunt you?"

How about this for an intersting twist: the already voted out members coming back as their own tribe to compete against the 2 remaining tribes?

Posted by: Savafan1

I think that John telling Savage that they threw the immunity challenge was a big mistake. It seemed to fire him up, and probably helped him hang in there for the latest IC.

Posted by: pmyers

I totally agree.....but Jon did do what he said he was going to do.....stomp on their self esteem/confidence. Too bad it was a stupid idea.

Posted by: jradosh

quote:
Originally posted by Dashel
"Your past has come back to haunt you?"

How about this for an intersting twist: the already voted out members coming back as their own tribe to compete against the 2 remaining tribes?

I like that idea, but I doubt that's what'll happen. They'd have to eliminate two at a time if they brought back more people.

I think the idea that the voted-off people somehow get involved in the voting off of the next people (or get on the jury) is more likely.

Interesting times...

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

quote:
Originally posted by Dashel
"Your past has come back to haunt you?"

How about this for an interesting twist: the already voted out members coming back as their own tribe to compete against the 2 remaining tribes?

I hope not, because that would be cheating (the rules say once you're voted out, you're out). But maybe they could return in some other, capacity like the jury members (who were a big shock when they started showing up in Season 1).

Posted by: pmyers

I don't like the idea of these people coming back as part of the jury....they are going to be overly bitter that they were voted off so early and never got a chance.

Posted by: Big_Daddy

So I'm unfamiliar with the references to the apparently previously discussed "Ghost Tribe" - does anyone care to enlighten me?

In the same "teach BD a thing or two" vein, what happens in case of a tie at TC? I thought for sure Sean was going to vote against Rupert, which would have made it 3 to 3. I remember hearing that in a tie, the person who's had the most overall votes gets kicked out - but neither Trish or Rupert had votes. What would have happened/

Posted by: Mikkel_Knight

quote:
Originally posted by Big_Daddy
So I'm unfamiliar with the references to the apparently previously discussed "Ghost Tribe" - does anyone care to enlighten me?

In the same "teach BD a thing or two" vein, what happens in case of a tie at TC? I thought for sure Sean was going to vote against Rupert, which would have made it 3 to 3. I remember hearing that in a tie, the person who's had the most overall votes gets kicked out - but neither Trish or Rupert had votes. What would have happened/

In the past TC's, a re-vote is cast. With the castaways receiving votes getting to plead their case to the tribe. The castaways then vote between the 2 who were tied. Usually, another tie occurs. This is where it gets tricky. In the 1st few seasons, it was decided who would go was going to be based on previous votes with the person with the most votes being voted off. Well, during Marquesas, the purple rock of death was introduced. If you didn't change your vote and decide as a tribe, the fate of every castaway would be decided by drawing a rock out of a bag. Yellow means you get to stay, Purple, you gots ta go...

no idea what (if anything) they have devised in case a tie comes up in the Panama installment.

Posted by: DancnDude

Didn't they also have a tie-breaker question game at tribal council once? I remember the 2 tied people answering questions and the one who lost was out.

Posted by: mrs-j

quote:
Originally posted by Crrink
I can't believe how much of a wuss Osten is. It's just sad.

Savage during the weight challenge was a perfect example of pure will. Good ol' Johnny Fairplay's strategy of breaking Morgan certainly backfired on him, big time.

I have so many favorites from this Survivor that it's unbelievable. After last night's episode, watching Savage, I love this guy!

I also think that Rhino is awesome. His affection for the pelican (contrasted with Osten's idiocy) was heartwarming. I hope those two go a long way.

The rest of Morgan can go take a hike.

On Drake, I love Rupert, of course. And Christa, and Sandra.

This is such a refreshing change. For the past several Survivor's (since Ethan) there has been no Survivor that I liked. Now I have five that I wouldn't mind seeing win at least SOMETHING. :D

Posted by: Savafan1

I thought that ties were broken by the votes at previous tribal councils, which would have meant that Sean would have been eliminated.

Posted by: DLiquid

How weird is it that Trish thought Rupert's name was Rubert?

Posted by: DLiquid

quote:
Originally posted by Savafan1
I thought that ties were broken by the votes at previous tribal councils, which would have meant that Sean would have been eliminated.

Huh? No one even voted for Shawn at this TC.

Posted by: skearney00

I'd like to see the "ghost tribe" come back and live amongst the remaining players. They wouldn't compete in any challenges, they would just be there to wreck havoc and play with peoples minds.

Posted by: chrisnorton

Looks like I missed a great episode. I know I know, I should have set Tivo, but I recently did an upgrade which removed my season's pass. I got all my other shows done, just not Survivor.

Posted by: vman

Why does everyone love Rupert so much? He's cool, but to me seems to be a pretty cocky, self absorbed guy (my tribe, my spear, etc). As other exiled contestants have said, this is now the Rupert show.

Personally, I think Trish was right on. He had way too much power and too much strength. He also gets along too well with the other tribe, which could be a threat after the merge. The point is to win the game, not to help ensure Rupert wins the game (despite America's apparent wishes). She obviously went about it the wrong way, and a week early. She clearly misread Sandra's support for Rupert (she obviously realized Christa wouldn't buy into the plan). But her thought process was right on.

Posted by: dthmj

The ghost tribe is discussed in the "All spoilers" thread - and isn't fair game in this thread since it has to do with a future episode.

As for eating the pelican...

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)

I'll spoilerize this since it happened in the past, but was not aired.

It was rumored that the Drake tribe did kill a pelican to eat - I believe it was Christa and a man that killed it and wanted to eat it - it was in the first few days out there. They were strongly cautioned not to eat it since pelicans can carry nasty diseases.

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

quote:
Originally posted by skearney00
I'd like to see the "ghost tribe" come back and live amongst the remaining players. They wouldn't compete in any challenges, they would just be there to wreck havoc and play with peoples minds.

Now, THAT would be fun!

Posted by: DLiquid

quote:
Originally posted by vman
Why does everyone love Rupert so much? He's cool, but to me seems to be a pretty cocky, self absorbed guy (my tribe, my spear, etc).

A rarely like survivor contestants, so someone doesn't have to be perfect to become my favorite. Rupert is different from any Survivor contestant I can remember, and he genuinely seems like he was meant for something like this. Most other contestants, from all seasons, seem way out of their element and are not nearly as fun to watch. Someone like Ethan, who seemed like a really nice guy (not very cocky or self absorbed), is just not as interesting to me.

Posted by: Fleegle

quote:
Originally posted by vman
Why does everyone love Rupert so much? He's cool, but to me seems to be a pretty cocky, self absorbed guy (my tribe, my spear, etc). As other exiled contestants have said, this is now the Rupert show.

Personally, I think Trish was right on. He had way too much power and too much strength. He also gets along too well with the other tribe, which could be a threat after the merge. The point is to win the game, not to help ensure Rupert wins the game (despite America's apparent wishes). She obviously went about it the wrong way, and a week early. She clearly misread Sandra's support for Rupert (she obviously realized Christa wouldn't buy into the plan). But her thought process was right on.

Is there a merge? Who knows? They've thrown a lot of interesting kinks into the game this time around. Who's to say there WILL be a merge?

Posted by: bobsbizzy

Yeah great episode with lots of highlights......

1. Osten proving yet again that he's a "wuss in a studs body". (Stealing someone else's quote). As my wife said, he should have gone on big brother, not survivor.

2. Osten threatened by the Pelican and sharpening the machete. "I'll cut it's head off" he said. Yeh right, as long as someone killed it for you first!!

3. Trish & Jon plotting to get rid of Rupert. They were so busy agreeing with themselves what a great idea it was, they didn't bother checking out the body language of Sandra, which showed what she really thought about the idea and that she was not in the least committed to it.

4. Shawn playing Jon on the beach about how everyone has to do what they have to do. He (Shawn) was obviously enjoying the situation.

5. The look on Jon's face when he realized that he wasn't exactly the "Million dollar man". Had to admit to giving out a real cheer when that happened!!

Great show.

One question that really puzzles me about these shows. Why does anyone (and lots of them do), think they have it all sewn up and they are the big threat when there are still 10 players left in the game??

As we've seen Overconfidence is a bigger killer in these games than almost anything else.

I hope Osten gets to stick around a few more episodes, he is by far the most entertaining person on the show. :D

Posted by: Mikkel_Knight

quote:
Originally posted by dthmj
[B]The ghost tribe is discussed in the "All spoilers" thread - and isn't fair game in this thread since it has to do with a future episode.

So, just for clarification purposes, we can't discuss the upcoming episode by watching the preview where J. Pro clearly states that "Your past will come back to haunt you"?

I'm not talking spoilers here, but even speculation is out???:confused:

Posted by: markp99

What's up with Jon strange "guesture" at tribal councils, where he holds two extended fingers, with arms crossed, on his upper arms? I find this disturbing; not sure why...

Posted by: Fleegle

quote:
Originally posted by markp99
What's up with Jon strange "guesture" at tribal councils, where he holds two extended fingers, with arms crossed, on his upper arms? I find this disturbing; not sure why...

I posted aboiut this in, I think, another thread. Jon's apparantly an amatuer wrestler, and "Jonny Fairplay" is his character. he's not playing the game as Jon, he's playing as Jonny Fairplay. I'm pretty sure that's some kind of signature of his character. It's getting really freaking annoying and I wish they'd pull him aside and tell him to known it teh hell off. He's not there to promote his wrestling persona, he's there to play Survivor.

Posted by: dthmj

quote:
Originally posted by Mikkel_Knight
So, just for clarification purposes, we can't discuss the upcoming episode by watching the preview where J. Pro clearly states that "Your past will come back to haunt you"?

I'm not talking spoilers here, but even speculation is out???:confused:

Well, I'm not a moderator, so far be it from me to tell you what to talk about. However, there is factual information about the ghost tribe, and I thought that was what was being asked about - the factual information is discussed in the "All Spoilers" thread - and I woudl think is clearly not welcomed in this thread.

Many people in various show threads have asked that previews not be discussed - or at least be spoilerized.

I've even been chastised for not spoilerizing speculation before - so I tend to be very careful - I get my feelings easily hurt. :D

Posted by: hookbill

quote:
Originally posted by bobsbizzy
2. Osten threatened by the Pelican and sharpening the machete. "I'll cut it's head off" he said. Yeh right, as long as someone killed it for you first!!
:D

All anyone has to do is look down at the bottom of my posts to know how I was feeling when Osten was threatening that bird. What a heartless S.O.B. And what a coward he is, threatening a bird. I guess since he can't prove he is a man any other way he has to sound off like that to make himself feel good.

BTW, I had my Cockatoo out on my arm watching the show with me. For those of you who don't know a Cockatoo is a large white parrot and they have a crest that lifts up when they get excited. When they were showing the shots of the Pete the Pelican doing his thing he started hopping about, making head motions and raising his crest as if Pete was going to hop off the screen and attack us. He was definitly going into defense mode.

Either that or he wanted to take a shot at Osten himself. I know I did.

Posted by: mrs-j

quote:
Originally posted by hookbill
All anyone has to do is look down at the bottom of my posts to know how I was feeling when Osten was threatening that bird. What a heartless S.O.B. And what a coward he is, threatening a bird. I guess since he can't prove he is a man any other way he has to sound off like that to make himself feel good.
...
Either that or he wanted to take a shot at Osten himself. I know I did.

I felt much the same way. I've owned many smaller birds (from finches to cockatiels) and while I am scared of many insect-like critters (and certainly not birds) I can't imagine what kind of spineless yellow-bellied idiot one must be to start threatening a perfectly polite pelican.

Osten's a complete coward. I would have had much harsher words for him than his teammates did, had he started doing that machete crap in front of me. What a loser.

Posted by: magaggie

quote:
Originally posted by Mikkel_Knight
So, just for clarification purposes, we can't discuss the upcoming episode by watching the preview where J. Pro clearly states that "Your past will come back to haunt you"?

I'm not talking spoilers here, but even speculation is out???:confused:

Ironically enough, I thought the "ghost tribe" was purely speculation, until someone indicated that it was a spoiler.

Posted by: jradosh

Well, I wouldn't condone killing a bird for living in its native habitat, and I also wouldn't be afraid of dealing with a pelican even if it was coming after me. But...

I have seen a goose attack a person walking down a sidewalk that happened to get too close to the bird's nest. This man was knocked to the ground and pummeled by the bird with his wings.

Given the wing-span and strong wing muscles pelicans have, they can knock a grown man (or even Osten :p) down to the ground and then peck, peck, peck until there's blood!

...but I'm not defending Osten, so no flames, OK?

BTW, as far as that "spoilers" thing goes... if you read about it on a rumor site, then it doesn't belong here... even if there's a hint of it (like with this week's episode "come back to haunt you" comment).

Posted by: hookbill

quote:
Originally posted by jradosh
Given the wing-span and strong wing muscles pelicans have, they can knock a grown man (or even Osten :p) down to the ground and then peck, peck, peck until there's blood!

Now that would have been a fitting end to the Osten chapter! Osten goes after the Pelican with his blade, misses because he is uncoordinated and the bird knocks him down and kicks the crap out of him.

Pelican goes on rampage. Flies over to Drake camps. Mistakes Johns hair for a strange nest and lands on his head. Johnny Fairplay tries to dropkick bird, WWE style but misses (which is why he isn't in WWE) and bird lays him out too.

Helicopters arrive to take Osten and Johnny Fairplay for emergency treatment. Tribes merge and Pete the Pelican gets hero status from aprreciative tribal members.

Ok...I know...I'll stop now.....

Posted by: Ruth

I've had a pet bird before too, but I would never invite a wild animal into my shelter -- wildlife is unpredictable and can be destructive, and it's just a bad idea to give any wild animal, no matter how sweet it seems, the idea that it's welcome to hang out in or around the place where I store my food and belongings. This is very standard advice in wilderness settings.

But of course Osten's concern was not practical, and his reaction and behavior with the machete was kind of creepy and just not appropriate.

My other comment from this week is that I wonder how Jon feels now about his status as "puppetmaster." :D

Posted by: uncdrew

I just hope Osten watches the episodes with friends back home and realizes how pathetic and pitiful he appeared on the show. My guess is he won't realize much of anything...

Posted by: Freki

I just get great pleasure out of imagining the reception Osten will get the next time he shows up at the gym, after getting beaten by Christa in a strength competition. He deserves every bit of the razzing he's going to get.

Posted by: pcgrrll

quote:
I just hope Osten watches the episodes with friends back home and realizes how pathetic and pitiful he appeared on the show. My guess is he won't realize much of anything...

I'm sure his friends will let him know.. :D

Posted by: msgoff

quote:
Originally posted by DLiquid
How weird is it that Trish thought Rupert's name was Rubert?

Perhaps she confused him for "Rubeus Hagrid" ;)

Posted by: DirecTiVoTexas

quote:
Originally posted by vman
Why does everyone love Rupert so much? He's cool, but to me seems to be a pretty cocky, self absorbed guy (my tribe, my spear, etc). As other exiled contestants have said, this is now the Rupert show.

Personally, I think Trish was right on. He had way too much power and too much strength. He also gets along too well with the other tribe, which could be a threat after the merge. The point is to win the game, not to help ensure Rupert wins the game (despite America's apparent wishes). She obviously went about it the wrong way, and a week early. She clearly misread Sandra's support for Rupert (she obviously realized Christa wouldn't buy into the plan). But her thought process was right on.

Rupert is my favorite contestant and I hope he wins. But, I agree that Trish was doing the right thing. He does have the most power and is the biggest threat to all other contestants. I would have gathered as much support to get him voted off as soon as possible. It'll get harder to get him voted off each week.

Then, there's Ostin, aka Joe Boxer. He is a living breathing cartoon character. He's such a bada$$ with a machete. Priceless.

Posted by: Jstkiddn

quote:
Originally posted by msgoff
Perhaps she confused him for "Rubeus Hagrid" ;)

LOL! My 12 yr. old son jokingly refers to him Hagrid all the time.

Posted by: LooseWiring

quote:
Originally posted by dthmj
The ghost tribe is discussed in the "All spoilers" thread - and isn't fair game in this thread since it has to do with a future episode.

Oh really?

We aren't allowed to discuss SPOILERS in a thread with the word SPOILERS in the subject?

So I guess it would be remiss of me to say that all the previously booted survivors are being given a chance for one of them to get back into the game? I suppose it would be also be rather naughty of me to say it's gonna be Lil?

Get down off your preachy soapbox lady. I don't see the word Moderator under your title. And if I did you would still be wrong.

Posted by: Kylep

I think everyone is overlooking the fact that Osten really won this immunity challenge for his tribe. By looking so buff he made the other team assume he was the strongest, so they started by focusing on taking him down. Clearly they should have put half the weight on Osten that they did, then start on savage... Osten still would have fallen first.

Posted by: zync

quote:
Originally posted by Medieval Guy
I hope not, because that would be cheating (the rules say once you're voted out, you're out). But maybe they could return in some other, capacity like the jury members (who were a big shock when they started showing up in Season 1).

Really? What rules? I haven't seen any rules posted on the CBS website. Can you provide a link?

Posted by: Philosofy

I missed the first 15 minutes last night. (I'm in a country without TiVo :(). I can't stand the sight of Jon. I would love to drop kick that smirk off of his face.

Posted by: Kablemodem

quote:
Originally posted by LooseWiring
Oh really?

Welcome to our happy community.

Posted by: DLiquid

quote:
Originally posted by LooseWiring
Oh really?

We aren't allowed to discuss SPOILERS in a thread with the word SPOILERS in the subject?

Yes really, not future spoilers. From the sticky at the top of the forum:

quote:
Originally posted by Philosofy
1. If the thread title has the name of the show and a date (ie, West Wing, 10/1) or the title of the show and the season and episode number (ie Smallville 3x01), then anything shown on that show and previous episodes are fair game. If you haven't watched that episode, and don't want any surprises ruined, then don't open that thread! And if you know something that is going to happen in future episodes, please use spoiler tags! Also, some people avoid the previews for next week, so if a major plot point is given away there, please use spoilers!

quote:
Originally posted by LooseWiring
Get down off your preachy soapbox lady. I don't see the word Moderator under your title. And if I did you would still be wrong.

Umm, I didn't see a smiley, but I hope you were joking. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Posted by: martinp13

The "ghost tribe" thing is speculation. The spoiler boards have a TON of information about it, so I think it would be upgraded to "spoiler". Someone above mentioned a particular player coming back, but it might be her, it might be another "older female", and it might be more than one. We don't really know yet. So it's a lame spoiler at best.

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

quote:
Originally posted by zync
Really? What rules? I haven't seen any rules posted on the CBS website. Can you provide a link?

From the CBS site:

quote:
On the last day of each three-day cycle, the Survivors must attend Tribal Council. At this meeting, each person votes secretly to send one fellow Survivor home. The person with the most votes must leave their tribe immediately.

Week by week, one by one, people are voted off, until at the end of the final episode, only two Survivors remain. At that point, the seven most recently eliminated Survivors will return to form the final Tribal Council and decide who will be the Sole Survivor--and win one million dollars!

I suppose they could change that, but like I said, that would (in my opinion) be cheating. Having the outcasts around, unable to participate but able to screw with people's heads, on the other hand, wouldn't.

Posted by: zync

quote:
On the last day of each three-day cycle, the Survivors must attend Tribal Council. At this meeting, each person votes secretly to send one fellow Survivor home. The person with the most votes must leave their tribe immediately.

Doesn't say anything about not joining another tribe (an outcast tribe), nor does it say they can never come back.

quote:

Week by week, one by one, people are voted off, until at the end of the final episode, only two Survivors remain. At that point, the seven most recently eliminated Survivors will return to form the final Tribal Council and decide who will be the Sole Survivor--and win one million dollars!

Doesn't say how many tribal councils exist, nor does it say that the most recently eliminated Survivors were the "last seven". It doesn't eliminate the possibility that the first 7 people come back in the last episode and get reeliminated thus making them the 7 most recent.

A stretch, but an example no less. It appears that the rules of Survivor change during the taping. Need to balance the tribes? Play mix-up. One tribe physically stronger? Play a mental challenge. Getting a little low on food? Offer more rice in exchange for the Texas flag.

Anyway, we'll find out next week!

Posted by: David Platt

quote:
Originally posted by LooseWiring
Oh really?

We aren't allowed to discuss SPOILERS in a thread with the word SPOILERS in the subject?

Yes, really. As you'll notice, the title of the thread is "Survivor 10/23 SPOILERS", not "Survivor Season Six Spoilers". The thread is clearly marked as having spoilers for this episode only.

quote:

So I guess it would be remiss of me to say that *********? I suppose it would be also be rather naughty of me to say it's gonna be *******?

Not only would it be remiss, it'd be against the posted guidelines for this forum. Not to mention just an all-around jerky thing to do.

quote:
Get down off your preachy soapbox lady. I don't see the word Moderator under your title. And if I did you would still be wrong.

I don't think she's the one that's wrong.

Posted by: DancnDude

It seems to me that they can change the rules pretty much however they want. Lots of these shows do it. Paradise Hotel kept saying the person without a roommate must "Leave the hotel and leave paradise forever!!!" and then they bring them all back several times. Big Brother even brought back a houseguest into the game. I'm certainly not saying that this will happen in Survivor, just that it has been done before and is likely in the Survivor rules that they can change the rules whenever they see fit.

Posted by: mrboo

Rupert looks like Hagar the Horrible to me.

Jon looks like a cross between Harpo Marx and Bob Dylan.

Crista has the weirdest sing-song-y quality to her voice. What was up with her stance during the IC? I think it's a toss-up between her and Osten for "Least Committed To the Show". They both seem to have given up.

I couldn't believe how tame that pelican was. He even let what-his-name pick him up.

I enjoy the later episodes of Survivor because the women tend to start slimming down and look pretty good to me. No real stand outs yet, though.

Posted by: faerie

quote:
Originally posted by mrboo
I enjoy the later episodes of Survivor because the women tend to start slimming down and look pretty good to me. No real stand outs yet, though.

I couldn't resist... So you're a fan of the starvation diet look?

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

quote:
Originally posted by mrboo
No real stand outs yet, though.

By "stand outs," I assume you mean ribs? :D

Posted by: dumbunny

All this talk about a "ghost tribe"? Since this Survivor has a pirate theme, wouldn't it more likely be a "ghost ship" filled with a spoooky crew of "ghost pirates" (or would that be "pirate ghosts")? It's going to air on the night before Halloween, after all.

Posted by: cello

funny, at the very beginning of the episode, I was thinking to myself that Trish was doing a good job of keeping a low profile, etc. In fact, she was my pick for the person to not get any votes this week. (there go those points...) I should have known that she would get booted out...

Poor Christa and her face. It looked like it must have itched and/or hurt like hell, but I have to admit that she looked so cute with the bites and the hat on. She looked like a big freckled doll. I was also wondering about the bites being gone at TC. I suppose it is possible that the redness was only an initial reaction to the bites, and that it went away enough before TC that it wasn't visible in the dim lights.

Someone mentioned earlier that they'd like to see the cast watching the show. I agree completely! Imagine what Osten's friends and family must be doing to him now, after acting like such a lazy coward week after week. heh

Posted by: Big_Daddy

quote:
Originally posted by mrboo

Crista has the weirdest sing-song-y quality to her voice. What was up with her stance during the IC? I think it's a toss-up between her and Osten for "Least Committed To the Show". They both seem to have given up.

You've got to be kidding! She impressed me in the immunity challenge as much as Savage did. She held as much as Osten did - albeit, I think he's the clear winner of the "Least Committed" award.

Posted by: brott

quote:
Originally posted by cello
Poor Christa and her face. It looked like it must have itched and/or hurt like hell, but I have to admit that she looked so cute with the bites and the hat on. She looked like a big freckled doll. I was also wondering about the bites being gone at TC. I suppose it is possible that the redness was only an initial reaction to the bites, and that it went away enough before TC that it wasn't visible in the dim lights.

It's also possible (even likely) that she received medical attention to address this problem. This has happened at least 2 other times (more I suspect) and only once has it been intregal enough to the outcome to be shown.

Posted by: Ruth

I'll bite, brott. I know about the medical attention that was shown (the guy who fell into the fire) -- what was the other one?

Posted by: brott

Sue in S1 .. Had her wrist bandaged late in the game due to a stingray or something. No biggy, but definitely a sign that medical attention is available.

Also, do you remember the fire late last season .. Where did the shirts that Matthew and Butch were wearing after "all of their belongings" were burned? Me thinks, the survivor "crew" helped them a little.

Posted by: LlamaLarry

I was so disapointed in Drake's treasure chest that I keep forgetting that Morgan has yet to find theirs. I guess the fact that we have never seen them looking for it means that they could care less as well.

This was an excellent episode and I was more than a little worried that they would trash Rupert too soon.

Osten has to just be ready to kill himself as his boys watch these shows. He has shown every week that he is the biggest weakling in the world and gets shown up in feats of strength every time by Rupert (a guy he would deride as fat as he sculpts his pecs) and now a GIRL, a skinny computer programmer no less, was able to hold as much weight as him. :D I would *LOVE* to see shots of the cast watching the shows with their family and friends, maybe as the post season wrap up.

Posted by: Crrink

LooseWiring, you owe dthmj an apology.
If what you posted is a real spoiler, you owe the rest of us an apology as well.

Posted by: Kablemodem

quote:
Originally posted by LlamaLarry
I was so disapointed in Drake's treasure chest that I keep forgetting that Morgan has yet to find theirs. I guess the fact that we have never seen them looking for it means that they could care less as well.

Even if they had the whole map Osten would try to convince them not to look for the treasure because they might get lost.

Posted by: Maniacal1

Or worse. They might be attacked by wild pelicans!

Posted by: Cabby

Osten needs to hit the gym and work on that backbone a little bit if you ask me..... pathetic.

Posted by: Big_Daddy

quote:
Originally posted by Cabby
Osten needs to hit the gym and work on that backbone a little bit if you ask me..... pathetic.

Actually, Osten's whining and holding back so he won't be viewed as a threat and voted off...

No, wait, I think he's just pouting.

Posted by: Uther

I think his lungs are going to fill with fluid, and he's going to die of pneumonia out there.

Osten: the prognostic hypochondriac.

Posted by: ccouger

The ad tonight (Tuesday) on CSB for this week's episode clearly stated, "The ones voted off are coming back" so it's not much of a mystery anymore. Now it's just how do they go about it and then what happens next?

Posted by: magaggie

quote:
Originally posted by Crrink
LooseWiring, you owe dthmj an apology.
If what you posted is a real spoiler, you owe the rest of us an apology as well.

ACK! Stop telling us the spoilers are real! I'm not listening! *rocking in corner, muttering insanely* ;)

Posted by: magaggie

quote:
Originally posted by Crrink
LooseWiring, you owe dthmj an apology.
If what you posted is a real spoiler, you owe the rest of us an apology as well.

ACK! Stop telling us the spoilers are real! I'm not listening! *rocking in corner, muttering insanely* ;)

Seriously though, that totally sucked dude, some of us don't mind spoilers covered in the preview, or discussing the episode the title says is being discussed. But some of us are living "the life" - a spoiler free life, and speculation is cool, real spoilers are just mean.

Posted by: Mikkel_Knight

quote:
Originally posted by magaggie
ACK! Stop telling us the spoilers are real! I'm not listening! *rocking in corner, muttering insanely* ;)

Seriously though, that totally sucked dude, some of us don't mind spoilers covered in the preview, or discussing the episode the title says is being discussed. But some of us are living "the life" - a spoiler free life, and speculation is cool, real spoilers are just mean.

Clearly in the preview, (which is part of the nights episode) if you can't infer what I inferred from J Pro's "your past will come back to haunt you" as an idea that the "your" would represent the castaways, the "past" representing those voted off and the "haunt" would be as phantoms or ghost players/tribe, then you're not very imaginative.

Simple deduction. I'm not looking to spoil anything for anybody, but I do like thinking ahead and putting forth ideas. If they aren't welcome here, then fine. But to sit and say that someone spoiled things by talking about what happened during the previews for this week, is ridiculous... The previews, AFAIK are part of the episode. If you don't want that involved, then start a thread with specific instructions to not include the previews...

:rolleyes:

Posted by: Demandred

quote:
Originally posted by Mikkel_Knight
Clearly in the preview, (which is part of the nights episode) if you can't infer what I inferred from J Pro's "your past will come back to haunt you" as an idea that the "your" would represent the castaways, the "past" representing those voted off and the "haunt" would be as phantoms or ghost players/tribe, then you're not very imaginative.

Simple deduction. I'm not looking to spoil anything for anybody, but I do like thinking ahead and putting forth ideas. If they aren't welcome here, then fine. But to sit and say that someone spoiled things by talking about what happened during the previews for this week, is ridiculous... The previews, AFAIK are part of the episode. If you don't want that involved, then start a thread with specific instructions to not include the previews...

:rolleyes:

She meant this spoiler:

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...133#post1475133

Which I think everyone would agree should not have been posted in this thread. It's more than just speculation about what might happen based on the previews. No one is saying that should not be allowed.

Posted by: Big_Daddy

FYI, there are also some mild spoilers on the official Survivor: Pearl Islands site:

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/

It may clarify some of the discussions here. It also says that Thursday's episode will be the first of a two-parter.