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Newbie comment about DVD recording Tivos?
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Posted by: gastrof

Hope you guys don't mind a newbie sticking his nose into this, but a good while back someone said something to me about ANY appliance that combines more than one device.

DON'T BUY IT.

For example, if you have a combo TV and VCR and the VCR goes, your TV is gone. You have to either have the whole thing sent out to repair, or you have to buy both items all over again.

Home stereos. Get a unit that has the radio, tape, and CD all in one, if ONE of them goes bad, your whole setup is junk.

Better to get separate units so that if one goes bad, you only have to replace or repair ONE and you still have the use of the other item(s). (Now, admittedly a VCR with no TV isn't much good, and a CD player with no receiver doesn't help you, but the point is still a valid one.)

I still suspect, unless space is a problem, it's better to get separate units for separate functions. Sure, get a Tivo. Sure, get a DVD recorder...

...but don't get them BOTH in a single cabinet.

Just my two cents. Void where prohibited. Your serving tray can be used as a sledding device in case of a snow landing.

Posted by: bicker

There is some value in integration, and for folks for whom both space and patience with wiring is at a premium, like me, such integrated units are advantageous.

Posted by: cptodd

Actually I had/have both a regular series 2 and a DVD recorder. It was ok but what I did not like was that I had to basically replay the show in order to get it onto DVD. That was a pain. With the 810H it burns the DVD in the background. It also provides batch burning of shows. For me it is a win win.

Posted by: bwit

I totally agree with cptodd. The ability to burn DVD's in the background is what makes the 810H valuable to me. In fact the other day I started a DVD burn while TiVo was recording something and while both of those took place I watched a show that had been previously recorded. With a separate DVD recorder only one of those would have been possible.

Bob

Posted by: JimSpence

With the 810H, can you burn a DVD from an external source, like a VCR?

Posted by: bedelman

quote:
Originally posted by JimSpence
With the 810H, can you burn a DVD from an external source, like a VCR?

The 810-H has a video input which can accept a signal from a VCR (or another TiVo, Video Camera, etc.). You can record this onto the hard drive -- and from there you can save it to DVD

Posted by: cptodd

quote:
Originally posted by bedelman
The 810-H has a video input which can accept a signal from a VCR (or another TiVo, Video Camera, etc.). You can record this onto the hard drive -- and from there you can save it to DVD

BUT you can only record to the HD from an external source like a VCR when you don't have an upcoming show. I have never done this but I played with it and it alerted me to the fact that I had an upcoming show in a few hours. It told me that if the thing I was recording (from the external source) ran into the scheduled show it would not record the scheduled show. I guess this is because you only have one chip to digitize the video coming into the unit and if it is busy with the VCR input then it can't work on the scheduled show.

Posted by: JimSpence

Thanks, I guess I'll stay with my standalone DVD recorder.

I'm also waiting for the DirecTV HDTiVo.:)

Posted by: dgh

quote:
Originally posted by gastrof
Home stereos. Get a unit that has the radio, tape, and CD all in one, if ONE of them goes bad, your whole setup is junk.

Of course, the same can be said about a unit that combines a tuner, preamp and amplifier but lots of people still prefer to buy integrated receivers.

There are some things I really don't like to have integrated - for example a VCR in a TV - especially a big TV. I've had way too many VCR failures and don't want to carry a 150 pound "big screen VCR" in for service.

On the other hand, integrations such as: TiVo plus a satellite receiver, TiVo plus an HD receiver, and TiVo plus a DVD-R recorder don't seem bad at all. Especially since each provides some performance enhancement(s) rather than just multiple things in one box.

Posted by: Philosofy

My DirectTiVo integrates two things seamlessly, and the whole is better than the sum of the parts. Same thing with the integrated TiVo/DVD burner. If you have one of these, your opinion would carry more weight, but it sounds to me like you have neither, and are just giving an opinion which, in some cases is correct, but other cases isn't. In this case, I'm pretty certain the marriage of TiVo and DVD is a winner.

Posted by: gastrof

But nobody's commented on the survival rate when using a serving tray as a sled after a snow landing! ;)

Posted by: Philosofy

quote:
Originally posted by gastrof
But nobody's commented on the survival rate when using a serving tray as a sled after a snow landing! ;)

You weren't being specific: survival of the tray as a food carrying device, survival of the tray as a sled, or survival of the person who crashed using the tray as a sled.