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Survivor 11-13 SPOILERS
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Posted by: VegasVic

Good show. I was surprised that EVERYONE voted for RyanO. I'm getting sick of Rupert. It's between Rupert and Lill for most annoying left on the island.

Go Jon!:eek:

Posted by: David Platt

...and Jeff Probst continues his unbroken streak of trying to humiliate Jon at least once per episode.

"Yet another challenge that Jon can't finish!" :D :D :D

Posted by: zyzzx

Almost everyone indicated they wanted to vote off Rupert and they were given the perfect opportunity to prevent him from winning the immunity challenge with that game that would allow them to do so. But since they're all too scared of Rupert they left him alone for most of the challenge by not putting any coconuts in his bin.

What a bunch of dolts. :rolleyes:

Posted by: VegasVic

Yeah Probst has had his best Survivor yet. I loved that line.

And when Rupert got ONE he couldn't believe it. He's too full of himself.

Posted by: dthmj

I did not understand that strategy at all... The one challenge they can easily take Rupert out, and they handed it to him. I suppose they might be afraid they will starve without him...

Posted by: Philosofy

I think they were edited: Rupert and Christa are going in a certain order, just not tonight. They edited it to make it seem like Rupert was going.

Posted by: zyzzx

I'm starting to think Rupert is going to walk away with the million. These people are more scared of Rupert than any other Survivor before him.

Posted by: ufo4sale

I'm more scared about the previews for next week. It might be his last week.

Posted by: Fleegle

His job, IRL, requires him to make himself such a presence in other people's lives that he becomes indispensable. He counsels at-risk teens. All he's doing is using that same combination of love and fear that he uses with his kids. Just by reading the bios on CBS's site before the show aired, I knew he'd go far in this game.

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)

The real question is how he's going to do on All-Star Survivor.

Posted by: dthmj

quote:
Originally posted by Fleegle

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)

The real question is how he's going to do on All-Star Survivor.

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)

Why couldn't he? It's not like this is going on live and he's still in the Pearl Islands. They have all been home for a while now. All Stars was to begin on Nov 3rd (ish), and it wraps up 3-4 days before the final episode of this Survivor - and since they are in the same location, even if he wins the All Star, he can still make it back in time for the finale.

Posted by: Peter000

Yeah, they really edited to seem like Rupert's head was on the block, then he WON the immunity! While the real target went out first, Rhino. I sort of feeled like I was played, like the Survivors deliberately misled US, the viewers, rather than Ryan. I think the real reason that Rupert is still around was mentioned before... he's so far indispensible as a food provider.

I think Rupert is going to last at least a couple of more episodes. Or as long as he can hang onto immunity. But I don't understand how folks can be annoyed by Rupert... he's playing the game just right, and isn't irritating at all. He even seemed downplayed this episode (certainly compared to Lil).

Posted by: Fleegle

Speaking of Ryan, since it was never addressed on the show... Does anybody know if he's gay? I got a pretty strong blip on my gaydar from him.

My mom asked me the same question, so I'm pretty sure it's not just me.

Posted by: SnakeEyes

I don't get the dislike for Rupert... everyone i have spoken too love Rupert. The guy is the most honest, up front, self determined, self successful, positive yet acknowledges more can be done, genuine, and funny person in this game. He epitomizes rugged individualism while at the same time helping others.

Posted by: wonderboymi

I have a question about all this, though it doesn't really relate to this episode necessarily...

If the game is over, and everyone has gone home, how is it that they are still going to do the finale live from the Pearl Islands next month? Are they bringing everybody back while they decide the winner?

Posted by: betamax

quote:
Originally posted by SnakeEyes
I don't get the dislike for Rupert... everyone i have spoken too love Rupert. The guy is the most honest, up front, self determined, self successful, positive yet acknowledges more can be done, genuine, and funny person in this game. He epitomizes rugged individualism while at the same time helping others.

If you're playing the game, he's definately your worst enemy. He could easily take the $1M.

But for us bystanders, I don't understand it. He's a WYSIWYG guy - what you see is what you get. He doesn't have an annoying voice like Darrah or Christa and he even looks kind of like a pirate. What more do you need?

Posted by: smak

Plus Rupert outworks, outswims, outruns out everythings the guys who are supposed to be in great shape, while he looks like he isn't.

He even should have one last week's swim immunity, but Burton kind of dove at the end and lucked out to put that medallion on the pole.

-smak-

Posted by: TeeSee

Christa guessed B (pieces-of-eight) in the last question of that quiz!?! Was she not listening to the prior question that told what pieces-of-eight were?

Posted by: ccouger

I liked Ryan. I would trust him before I'd trust Jon or Burton in an alliance. At least he had the right attitude when he was voted out and reminded them that he was on the jury!

I wasn't sure why they didn't go after Rupert in the challenge either, other than that they didn't want to tip their hand to him that they were considering voting him out. This way, he was supposed to feel confident that he wasn't going anywhere. So, they can't give the immunity to anyone else now, since this is the time the jury is decided? I don't remember that from past Survivors. I noticed that Jeff didn't even ask Rupert if he wanted to assign immunity to someone else, so that must be the rule, they can't give it up once it gets this late in the game. Or did I miss something about it?

Posted by: Peter000

quote:
Originally posted by Fleegle
Speaking of Ryan, since it was never addressed on the show... Does anybody know if he's gay? I got a pretty strong blip on my gaydar from him.

I didn't even think of that until you brought it up. I didn't get any sense of gayness about him... I just viewed him as mild mannered and laid back.

His audition tape and interview on the official Survivor website really don't match what we saw of him on the show. He was acting much more macho and self assured then as opposed to the island.

Rupert's was exactly as he is. It's interesting that he almost won a local "Survivor" type contest in his home town. The only reason he didn't was that he "chose the wrong person" to go head to head with at the end.

The audition tapes are pretty entertaining.

Posted by: GoodN

Am I the only one who would like to see Rupert get an extreme makeover?

And if they could ever make the "Survivor" diet medically safe, CBS would make a fortune. How many carbs does a serving of sting ray have?

Posted by: bicker

Hehe... I wonder what the "Fab 5" can do with Rupert!!!

Posted by: TampaThunder

I don't get it. The one chance they have to get rid of the biggest threat and they blow it. There won't be anymore immunity challenges where people can gang up on you and make sure you don't win and last night was a golden opportunity to get rid of Rupert. Now I don't see how this guy can lose.

Not only can he win every immunity and reward challenge but I think he's got some very strong alliances, much stronger than we're being led to believe. And it was a nice touch the way he gave away the breakfast. Other then the inevitable car they give away I don't think he'll keep anything but will pass whatever he wins on to someone else. In the past, people have "thrown" challenges but Rupert's too much of a competitor to do even that.

Posted by: kiljoy

I think the main reason Rupert didn't go last night was that none of the other groups knew what the others were planning. Christa and Sandra want Rupert gone because he's too strong. Burton and Jon want him gone because he's too tight with Christa and Sandra. Morgan members want him gone because he's still adhering to Drake lines. Yet none of them know that the feeling is shared between them.

That's why nobody threatened him during the challenge, as to not tip their hand.

Tony

Posted by: pmyers

I loved Probst's line about another challange that Jon can't finish! Why on earth are the women not trying to learn how to get fish?

Posted by: Steveknj

quote:
Originally posted by Peter000
Yeah, they really edited to seem like Rupert's head was on the block, then he WON the immunity! While the real target went out first, Rhino. I sort of feeled like I was played, like the Survivors deliberately misled US, the viewers, rather than Ryan. I think the real reason that Rupert is still around was mentioned before... he's so far indispensible as a food provider.

The editing of this Survivor is really starting to annoy me. It seems to me that the producers are more out to decieve us than to show us what happened. My son and I were watching and I was CONVINCED that they were getting rid of Rupert this week. In fact I thought it before I watched the episode based on the title (Shocking, simply shocking!!) until of course they showed the stingray. And on that note, now that Burton has shown that he can get food, Rupert is dispensible. This was the perfect opportunity to get rid of him and they didn't. I just couldn't understand that. Rupert is running the whole show (he might as well be Jeff Probst). Did you hear him yelling out to Burton to take Lil for the breakfast? I was rooting for Rupert to win until the last couple of shows, and now I'm not, it's just too easy. A small part of me is beginning to think the show is rigged.

Posted by: Steveknj

quote:
Originally posted by Fleegle
Speaking of Ryan, since it was never addressed on the show... Does anybody know if he's gay? I got a pretty strong blip on my gaydar from him.

My mom asked me the same question, so I'm pretty sure it's not just me.

Does it matter? Who really cares?

Posted by: dschwab

None of the smaller alliances could get rid of Rupert last night because they don't yet have the numbers to do so. Christa and Sandra may want him gone because they can't compete with him physically, but they'd be in serious danger if they lost Rupert at this point. Who knows where Johnny Noplay's allegiance is, so none of the anti-Rupert voters can really count on his vote in a tight vote.

Lil and Burton could've voted with the Morgans and had the numbers to get to the Final 5, but for some reason they didn't take that route, perhaps because they have the same shot at the Final 5 with the Drakes and wouldn't ruffle as many feathers . I'm sure there are some things we're not seeing so CBS can pump the "Rupert is going" angle for the ratings. Burton and Rupert would be foolish to not have something worked out since the 2 of them can likely control most every remaining immunity challenge.

Dara's and T's vote might seem puzzling, but as we've seen in nearly every Survivor, once the writing is on the wall for the team with fewer numbers, those remaining tend to vote with the majority to try to fit in. Unless the girls can somehow pull together an alliance next week, which I seriously doubt since Christa and Sandra seem comfortable riding coattails so far, Dara and T will be the next 2 to go.

Posted by: jgickler

I'm becoming more and more convinced that Jon and Rupert have an alliance. Kind of like a good cop bad cop thing. Jon stirs up trouble, and tests who is being honest with Rupert. Rupert plays the straight and narrow guy, who protects Jon without anyone realizing it.

The one time that Jon voted for Rupert, Rupert went off on him. Now we all knew that Rupert was not going to go that week, Jon's vote did not matter at that point, so it would have been the perfect opportunity to hide their alliance, with Rupert's outburst cementing their non-alliance in everyones eyes.

My prediction: Rupert and Jon in the finals, with Jon winning. He may be the most annoying survivor yet, but if it was all a big act, to further the Rupert-Jon alliance, then he is playing the game masterfully.

Posted by: Redleg

Interesting theory jgickler.

I gave up feeling "misled" by the producers in Survivor: Africa. Their job is to take the hundreds of hours of raw footage, footage of yacking and scratching and sleeping, and tell a few stories using it. It usually revolves around alliances, infighting, and a build-up to an eventual winner. Sometimes, this means they create a little drama for us where none existed on the island.

Aside from the possibility that they are "preparing" us for Rupert's dismissal in the next couple weeks, if Sandra and Christa are talking about getting rid of Rupert, I think it's good to know. But the way they piled coconuts on the Morgan tribe last night, even when they had a clear shot at Rupert, tells me that there was a lot of FUD outside the core Drake alliance... but we'll see next week if they wise up and overcome it.

Posted by: LooseWiring

But the coconut piling was only for the reward challenge not immunity. Why would they tip their hand to Rupert if they were going to oust him.

It is an interesting concept about the possible Jon/Rupert alliance. Jon is annoying as hell but he is a hard worker and I think Rupert could respect that. Also, in an earlier interview, Rupert made comments about how Jon was very similar to the kids that Rupert councils. That might give creedence to the idea of a Jon/Rupert alliance.

If so, outstanding move on both their sides.

Posted by: pmyers

quote:
Originally posted by LooseWiring
But the coconut piling was only for the reward challenge not immunity. Why would they tip their hand to Rupert if they were going to oust him.

It is an interesting concept about the possible Jon/Rupert alliance. Jon is annoying as hell but he is a hard worker and I think Rupert could respect that. Also, in an earlier interview, Rupert made comments about how Jon was very similar to the kids that Rupert councils. That might give creedence to the idea of a Jon/Rupert alliance.

If so, outstanding move on both their sides.

Your confused. The coconut quiz game was for immunity and the slingshot game was for reward.

Posted by: grecorj

I can only imagine that Lil would feel that upset (previews of next week) if she turned on Burton, not Rupert. Jon, Sandra, Christa, Lil & Rupert will vote out Burton next week.

I see Rupert, Lil, Tijuana/or Darrah and Jon in the final 4 at this point. Do we really think there's a chance Rupert will lose an immunity challenge between now and the final 4? I think not.

Rupert will take Lil & Jon to the final 3. If he's smart he'll take Lil to the final 2.

Posted by: pmyers

Lil really is annoying

Posted by: Philosofy

quote:
Originally posted by jgickler
I'm becoming more and more convinced that Jon and Rupert have an alliance. Kind of like a good cop bad cop thing. Jon stirs up trouble, and tests who is being honest with Rupert. Rupert plays the straight and narrow guy, who protects Jon without anyone realizing it.

The one time that Jon voted for Rupert, Rupert went off on him. Now we all knew that Rupert was not going to go that week, Jon's vote did not matter at that point, so it would have been the perfect opportunity to hide their alliance, with Rupert's outburst cementing their non-alliance in everyones eyes.

My prediction: Rupert and Jon in the finals, with Jon winning. He may be the most annoying survivor yet, but if it was all a big act, to further the Rupert-Jon alliance, then he is playing the game masterfully.

You know, I think you're right! What a master plan by the two of them!

Posted by: TreborPugly

quote:
Originally posted by TeeSee
Christa guessed B (pieces-of-eight) in the last question of that quiz!?! Was she not listening to the prior question that told what pieces-of-eight were?

Maybe she was doing the Rob thing, and purposely getting the answers wrong, so she couldn't be blamed for eliminating anyone.

Either that, or she's a complete idiot...

I really liked this episode. Rupert is the man! He kicked butt in the reward challenge. I don't understand why he didn't just take someone with him, rather than giving it away though. Was it strategy, or has he just gone too far into the "be generous" mode. However, I thought it interesting that he was growling "Take Lill" before Burton chose Lill. He seems to be in control of Everything! This might actually get to be too much for the other survivors, this need of his to be in control of everything.

Lill is about the poorest Survivor player I've ever seen. If she goes far, I will weep. At her breakfast with Burton, she says she wants him to tell her what to do. She doesn't think for herself at all. Then, when they decide what to say about their breakfast to the others, Burton just makes a joke about it, obviously intending just to keep his mouth shut. Then she goes way over the top at the immunity challenge about how Burton didn't talk at all at breakfast. She is so obviously lying! Everyone knows Burton is a talker and a thinker. They know he would talk to anyone given the one-on-one time. So, everyone must have immediately wondered, why is she lying? She should just keep her mouth shut if she wants to survive...

I am surprised that the outcasts didn't team up with Morgan to vote out one of the Drake folks. They were talking about it, and this was their last chance to actually do it. Now it is 4-4 on the core Drake people and the Morganites+outcasts.

I did like hearing Christa and Sandra talking about a "Girls alliance." Up until now, it appeared that they had no strategy of their own, just following Rupert's lead and keeping their heads down.

Treb.

Posted by: scottjf8

quote:
Originally posted by grecorj
I can only imagine that Lil would feel that upset (previews of next week)

Branching off from the 24 Spoiler threads...

This is a SPOILER discussion of the Nov 13th Episode, not about the previews of Nov 20. Many of us don't watch the previews, so let's try to keep the discussion of what happened on 11/13 only...

(if you need to, at least spoiler tag it so we don't have to read it...)

Thanks :)

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

Well, one thing that happened on 11/13 was the preview for next week...

Posted by: debtoine

Something else I noticed is that Jeff didn't ask Rupert if he wanted to give the immunity up to anyone else. At least, he didn't do it on camera. Maybe that part got edited out. Each of the last few seasons, he's always asked if the person who won immunity felt secure enough to give it to someone else or if they wanted to keep it. It would've been interesting to hear Rupert's answer to that question, had Jeff posed it or if we'd goten to see it.

Rupert hasn't really lied at Tribal Council, so if he'd known there was talk about getting rid of him, he'd probably say it...even though they handed immunity to him. Maybe the others who had heard they were going to get rid of Rupert made a deal with him and tipped him off and we didn't get to see that due to editing?

deb

Posted by: KRS

quote:
Originally posted by TreborPugly

Lill is about the poorest Survivor player I've ever seen. If she goes far, I will weep. At her breakfast with Burton, she says she wants him to tell her what to do. She doesn't think for herself at all. Then, when they decide what to say about their breakfast to the others, Burton just makes a joke about it, obviously intending just to keep his mouth shut. Then she goes way over the top at the immunity challenge about how Burton didn't talk at all at breakfast. She is so obviously lying! Everyone knows Burton is a talker and a thinker. They know he would talk to anyone given the one-on-one time. So, everyone must have immediately wondered, why is she lying? She should just keep her mouth shut if she wants to survive...

I was thinking the same thing when Lil was using the coconut challenge to repeatedly talk about the breakfast. Burton must have been cringing <Shut up Lil, just shut up>

Plus, what the heck was she thinking by putting coconuts in Burton's trough? She took him out of the running for immunity - how does that gel with their plan of getting to the end together? She probably thought that she was throwing people off of their "alliance," but she is such a poor liar that I'm sure it had the opposite effect. "Dumb broad" (her words) indeed!

Posted by: betamax

Lil may be a wimp, but she's tougher than Osten.

Posted by: Philosofy

If Burton knew that RyanO was going, then he would have encouraged Lil to bump him off to throw off suspicions.

Posted by: Redstixxx

Lil is more annoying to me than Johnny Foreplay...I mean Fairplay. ;)

Posted by: TampaThunder

quote:
Originally posted by Medieval Guy
Well, one thing that happened on 11/13 was the preview for next week...

How would you know? I thought you gave up on this show. :)

Posted by: Kablemodem

Is Rupert going to try to spear the shark or just wrestle with it till it suffocates?

Posted by: keirgrey

What would a pirate do?

Posted by: hookbill

quote:
Originally posted by Redstixxx
Lil is more annoying to me than Johnny Foreplay...I mean Fairplay. ;)

A little background: On the local oldies station here in the Cincinnati area Probst in an interview said you will be surprised about Lil. That was before the season premier.

I was surprised after hearing that comment to see her go so quickly. So when the brought the ghost tribe back I began to see what he was talking about and sure enough, Lil returns.

Probst also said that the largest Survivor audience is here in the Cincinnati area and that is why they were so happy to get someone again from this area.

My point is that even though it is not reflected in this forum I'll bet Lil has a huge fan club out here. She is featured every night on the local news after Survivor. While I'm not a big fan of her's I personally do not think she is anyway near as annoying as Jon.

Posted by: KRS

quote:
Originally posted by Kablemodem
Is Rupert going to try to spear the shark or just wrestle with it till it suffocates?

I think he is going to jump it!

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

quote:
Originally posted by TampaThunder
How would you know? I thought you gave up on this show. :)

I gave up on the show (which is why I haven't had anything to say about it), but I have checked out the threads from time to time to get a sense for what I'm missing, and the educator in me couldn't resist when I saw the poor, sad, ignorant person who clings foolishly to the "previews that air as part of the show are not part of the show" heresy. :D

Posted by: brianric

quote:
Originally posted by VegasVic
Yeah Probst has had his best Survivor yet. I loved that line.

And when Rupert got ONE he couldn't believe it. He's too full of himself.

If Ruppert told everyone to drink the purple Kool Aid they would. :D

Posted by: timr_42

I said a long time ago that I thought that Rupert was to strong. I guessed that he would have been voted out by now. I think the first immunity he does win, he is gone.

That is unless everyone is scared of him. I could see him voted out, totally freaking out and then killing everyone to become the sole Survivor. ;)

Posted by: pmyers

Personally I think this is the best survivor yet and I can't wait to see the reunion show and hear the real dirt!

Posted by: hookbill

quote:
Originally posted by timr_42
I said a long time ago that I thought that Rupert was to strong. I guessed that he would have been voted out by now. I think the first immunity he does win, he is gone.

That is unless everyone is scared of him. I could see him voted out, totally freaking out and then killing everyone to become the sole Survivor. ;)

Ummmmmm....you can't get voted out if you win immunity.:)

Posted by: ADent

1) On basically every episode it is edited to make you think A is going to be voted off, then B is actually voted off. Its part of the editing forumla.

2) They either have cast talking off camera or they choose to withhold some big talks. I was really suprised that almost everybody voted for Ryan. I think there are some hidden alliances.

Posted by: bicker

Precisely. It's been edited like this from the beginning. It wouldn't be half as interesting otherwise.

Posted by: Philosofy

I just thought of another twist: in the past, they have held the vote for the winner, then sealed the votes. Maybe this time they will actually hold the vote live, so the contestants could see all the private camera chats like we have before making a decision. Then Rupert would definitely win.

Posted by: uncdrew

For all those who keep thinking Rupert can win all immunity challenges, you do realize he lost the first one of the combined tribe. Burton outswam him and won.

No way he wins them all. I hope the others are wise enough to vote him off when he does lose. I too think he's a bit full of himself.

Posted by: Sirius Black

Many here talk negatively about Jonny "fairplay" but he has made it this far and doesn't seem to be in danger for the time being. While I don't understand it, he is fairly annoying, the theory about his having an alliance with Rupert is interesting and if true I would say it is masterfully executed.

I think the over-the-top over-reactionism on Rupert's part is an act (to reinforce the good cop/bad cop with Jon).

If I were an at risk kid I wouldn't want someone yelling at me all the time or acting the way he is portrayed by the editing trying to bring me back from whatever I am doing that is considered risky.

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
On the other hand, I don't think you would find Burton or any of the other "strong physical types" volunteering to go shark hunting/wrestling without first having a bigger boat.

Posted by: Philosofy

One thing about Rupert's outbursts: afterwards, he explains that he is angry, and has a right to express that anger, and that it will pass. I think that is emotionally very mature. I wish I could do that!

Posted by: smak

I think Rupert needs to change his strategy. I think He needs to appear a little weaker, do not win the reward challenge, say he's tired or something.

These are 6 season watching Survivor vets, they don't want to see runs like Colby did, where just when they're about to vote somebody out because he's too strong, he goes on a 4 or 5 episode immunity streak, and gets to the final 2...

This is just about the time where people aren't going to want him to win immunity again and again, therefore appearing weaker seems like a smart thing.

-smak-

Posted by: cello

True. Though his strategy might be to count on winning all the immunity challenges. If anybody can do it, he certainly has the best chance. He's strong and he's intelligent. Of course, it's hard to dodge the bullet on some challenges (like the coconut one...). Kind of like playing hearts, I guess. You can try to "shoot the moon" but if you miss one point card you're completely screwed...

Part of me really wants Sandra to win. If she hadn't spoken the language and been so good at bartering at the beginning, I don't think that Drake would have been nearly as strong as they were at the beginning. She's so responsible for so much of the food and equipment they got... if anybody was ready to survive a shipwreck off the coast of Panama, she was. :)

Posted by: BattMan

For those of you wondering why the others arent learning to spear fish - it is a pretty difficult task, especially with the crappy rubber mask they have and no fins.

(I love spear fishing.)

Posted by: pmyers

quote:
Originally posted by BattMan
For those of you wondering why the others arent learning to spear fish - it is a pretty difficult task, especially with the crappy rubber mask they have and no fins.

(I love spear fishing.)

c'mon now...they have nothing but time on their hands. It can't be all that hard that a few hours of practice couldn't make one proficient.

Posted by: Crrink

Isn't that basically what Rupert did? Got out there and figured it out, then became the fish spearing MAN?

I suppose he could've had some prior experience, but if that's the case they should've told us....it'd be like editing out the fact that Sandra speaks Spanish and leaving us to think that she's just exceptionally skilled at pantomime :)

Posted by: Steveknj

I would bet that Rupert sleeps with that spear under his pillow!! And I also bet that if someone asked him to use the spear to go fishing, he'd be VERY reluctant to give it up!!

Posted by: Frylock

yeah, after someone messed with his spear head, I'd be afraid if I asked for the spear, I'd get it in my back!

Posted by: Fleegle

quote:
Originally posted by Steveknj
I would bet that Rupert sleeps with that spear under his pillow!! And I also bet that if someone asked him to use the spear to go fishing, he'd be VERY reluctant to give it up!!

The Morgan tribe had a spear just like Rupert's, so the Balboa tribe should have two spears.

Posted by: pmyers

How could Rupert say no if somebody wanted to learn how to spear fish? It would be worse for him to say no than it would be to teach them how to do it. If one of the girls went to him and said teach me and he said no way he would be gone pronto.

Posted by: Steveknj

Actually, I think he could say no and get away with it, And I don't think anyone would question it. Remember in season 1, Richard Hatch basically fished himself too.

Posted by: BattMan

You would be suprised at how hard it can be. They are lucky to have a gig on the end of the spear, some have a single tip. In my experience, a gig holds it better.

Most fish stay in coral that is 20 feet down or more. You have to swim down (harder in salt water with no fins) grab on and look under rocks.

You need to be a very good swimmer, and somewhat athletic.

Those spears are the kind with the rubber band on the end. Take the rubber band around the fleshy part between your thumb and index finger, and grab the spear as close to the tip as you can - stretching out the rubber band. When you are ready to fire, let go of the spear and it will launch. You keep control of it because your hand is in the rubber band.

Now try to swim down without fins, hold yourself down with one hand while kicking and trying to spear a fish without it wiggling off the spear or spooking it before you spear it. It is harder than it seems.

Posted by: uncdrew

Savage was strong and determined. If he didn't know how to use the spear at first, Rupert showed him how eventually. I'm sure he tried and tried, since they had lots of time and little food.

Wasn't there a comment about the fishing being much harder at Morgan?

Or maybe Rupert is the only one who can do it.

Posted by: JTAnderson

Wouldn't it have been something if this had happened during the reunion special:

From thefutoncritic:

quote:
SURVIVOR (CBS) - The Eye has dropped its plans to telecast next month's "Survivor: Pearl Islands" reunion special (Sunday, December 14 at 10:00/9:00c) live from Panama. The decision was reportedly made after the Panama City landmark where the special was set to originate, the Arco Chato, collapsed unexpectedly. Instead, the special will now be telecast from CBS Television City in Los Angeles with Jeff Probst as host.

Posted by: grecorj

quote:
Originally posted by grecorj
I can only imagine that Lil would feel that upset (previews of next week) if she turned on Burton, not Rupert. Jon, Sandra, Christa, Lil & Rupert will vote out Burton next week.

I see Rupert, Lil, Tijuana/or Darrah and Jon in the final 4 at this point. Do we really think there's a chance Rupert will lose an immunity challenge between now and the final 4? I think not.

Rupert will take Lil & Jon to the final 3. If he's smart he'll take Lil to the final 2.

Well I was 90% wrong. :p

Lil was upset about doing something to Rupert, but not what I expected.