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24 12/2 (Spoilers)
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Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

Only Kim Bauer could find a way to get kidnapped inside CTU!

Posted by: cello

aaw, you beat me to it!

I was kind of hoping he would shoot her...

Posted by: allan

Maybe next week. *crosses fingers*

Posted by: scottjf8

quote:
Originally posted by Medieval Guy
Only Kim Bauer could find a way to get kidnapped inside CTU!

hahaha :)

She's such a jackass..

Posted by: njtaz

Does she not know how to use the phone?? She had so much trouble trying to dial the phone. Whats up with that. Another brilliant kim moment.

Posted by: Graymalkin

You can't keep a good girl out of jeopardy! :D

Posted by: Chandler Mike

I think I saw a mountain lion trap on the floor when they did a pan of the room :D

Mike

Posted by: desulliv

24 12/2 (Spoilers)

Only Kim Bauer could find a way to get kidnapped inside CTU!

My thought exactly. I just uttered, "Kim has stepped in it again and she hasn't even left the building."

Posted by: DougF

I didn't like the sequence when Jack and Salazar arrived at the airport. As smart as Jack is, you would think he'd know that Salazar's goons would be there waiting for him.

Posted by: Graymalkin

Kim is a Lifetime Network movie all by herself.

Posted by: ADG

Quickly going from a top action show to the stupidest show on the air. I keep watching it and then feeling silly for having done so immediately after.

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

quote:
Originally posted by Frozen Solid
I didn't like the sequence when Jack and Salazar arrived at the airport. As smart as Jack is, you would think he'd know that Salazar's goons would be there waiting for him.

...except he didn't realize that it was Salazar's goons (who had been called in by the mole at CTU); he thought it was a plane that HE had arranged. It still hasn't sunk in to him that everything that's happened so far has been a ploy to get Jack to spring Salazar.

Posted by: pmyers

quote:
Originally posted by Medieval Guy
...except he didn't realize that it was Salazar's goons (who had been called in by the mole at CTU); he thought it was a plane that HE had arranged. It still hasn't sunk in to him that everything that's happened so far has been a ploy to get Jack to spring Salazar.

I'm not sure what you are talking about. Jack knew the plane was arranged by the bad guys...he even said something about "Your pilot" or something like that when they were in the Mustang. Jack definately didn't arrange that plane and he should have known what was coming.

I actually liked this episode right up to the Kim in the Batcave scene.

Posted by: Kicker3

quote:
Originally posted by Medieval Guy
Only Kim Bauer could find a way to get kidnapped inside CTU!

Dammitt....where is the mountain lion in CTU when you need it :D

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

quote:
Originally posted by pmyers
I'm not sure what you are talking about. Jack knew the plane was arranged by the bad guys...he even said something about "Your pilot" or something like that when they were in the Mustang. Jack definately didn't arrange that plane and he should have known what was coming.

Hmmm. Maybe I missed something, but I could have sworn that Jack arranged for the plane through his CTU connections, that the mole subverted his arrangement, and that "your pilot" was just the guy who was going to be flying him (Jack wasn't supposed to be going with, and he seemed VERY surprised to see Salazar's men at the airfield instead of his own).

Posted by: Crrink

I was under the impression that the pilot was Salazar's from Mexico. If it was a pilot Bauer had arranged, I think CTU would've either stopped him, or planted agents aboard.
I had the impression that Jack had a conversation or two with Salazar's brother (Hector?) where he learned how to contact the pilot, etc.

And hey, at least we found out that the Batcave isn't a secret hiding place for the mole. :)

Posted by: ScottE22

I enjoy this show. I also love to note these little things for amusement purposes only...

(1) Based on a single blip on his radar screen, Jack notes, "Military, alright, you can tell by the formation..."

(2) Why is it that the most obscure information always seems to be at their fingertips (e.g. subway maps of the emergency exits between two particular streets, video feed from the operating room where Tony is, etc.), but it takes Chloe 10 minutes to find the "hailing" frequency so they can contact Jack? Speaking of hailing frequencies - I haven't heard anyone use that term since the last Star Trek episode I saw... "Uhura - the Klingons aren't responding - try them on the hailing frequency..." By definition, shouldn't a "hailing" frequency be common knowledge and not require so much work to discover?

(3) Does Ryan Chappelle's nose point 15 or 20 degrees right of center?

I'm sure there are more, but those were the three I remembered this morning...

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
Next week's episode looks vaguely familiar... Didn't we have a private plane escapade last season with Nina and a crash in the mountains? If I was Jack, I'd steer clear of private aviation...

Posted by: pmyers

quote:
Originally posted by ScottE22

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
Next week's episode looks vaguely familiar... Didn't we have a private plane escapade last season with Nina and a crash in the mountains? If I was Jack, I'd steer clear of private aviation...

I had the same thought. Surely that can't happen twice to Jack....could it?

Posted by: Jstkiddn

quote:
Originally posted by pmyers
I had the same thought. Surely that can't happen twice to Jack....could it?

Before asking that you must ask yourself how many times has Kimmy been kidnapped so far?

Posted by: milo99

ok, the thread title has "spoilers" so enuf w/ the tags :) ...anyway....

anybody else see the 'twist' coming that Singer wasn't infected? I mean, that's pretty soon for the threat to be abated so easily. Unless that's just part of the day's troubles. whats the rest of the show's point, to get Salazar and Jack back????

Posted by: pmyers

quote:
Originally posted by milo99
ok, the thread title has "spoilers" so enuf w/ the tags :) ...anyway....

what people are tagging is spoilers from upcoming shows or previews which has become an appreciated practice by members here.

Posted by: DougF

quote:
Originally posted by milo99
anybody else see the 'twist' coming that Singer wasn't infected? I mean, that's pretty soon for the threat to be abated so easily. Unless that's just part of the day's troubles. whats the rest of the show's point, to get Salazar and Jack back????

I told my wife that about 10 minutes in to the episode. It's just too early in the 24 hours for the virus thing to wrap up that quickly.

Posted by: dtle

Here's my new Loony theory:

Gael, the mole, is actually a triple-agent. However, he doesn't work for CTU, but some other agency instead, like DEA. He's using CTU to get to Hector. Hector's girlfriend is in on it.

The show now focuses on Jack's plight to capture both Hector and Ramon.

Posted by: scottjf8

quote:
Originally posted by ScottE22

(3) Does Dave Chappelle's nose point 15 or 20 degrees right of center?

Ryan Chapelle... Dave Chapelle is a really funny comedian...

Posted by: DougF

quote:
Originally posted by dtle
Here's my new Loony theory:

Gael, the mole, is actually a triple-agent. However, he doesn't work for CTU, but some other agency instead, like DEA. He's using CTU to get to Hector. Hector's girlfriend is in on it.

The show now focuses on Jack's plight to capture both Hector and Ramon.

That certainly would help explain how he got into CTU in the first place. You would thing there would be a better screening process after the Nina fiasco.

But, then again, this is the world of escapism TV!

Posted by: mp2526

quote:
Originally posted by Medieval Guy
Hmmm. Maybe I missed something, but I could have sworn that Jack arranged for the plane through his CTU connections, that the mole subverted his arrangement, and that "your pilot" was just the guy who was going to be flying him (Jack wasn't supposed to be going with, and he seemed VERY surprised to see Salazar's men at the airfield instead of his own).

The Plane and pilot belonged to Salazar. They had contacted the FBI and had given them instructions on where to bring Salazar. Jack even mentioned this when he called the pilot. When the pilot said can I confirm this ("this" being the information that Jack was actually helping Salazar now) , he called the mole because he knew he was on the Salazar team.

Posted by: ScottE22

quote:
Originally posted by scottjf8
Ryan Chapelle... Dave Chapelle is a really funny comedian...

Oops - thanks - I made the change :)

I actually knew that. I guess that's what happens when I should be working :rolleyes:

Posted by: efilippi

I wanted to throw something through the TV screen when the helicopter pilots "don't have a shot!" They could have hit it with a brick!

I remember the old serials at the movies where the good guy always was able to escape violent death by some absolutely unbelievable means. That is what 24 has become, if in reverse.

Posted by: minckster

When the helicopter pilots "d[id]n't have a shot", there were several differences between the closed captioning and the dialogue. (This episode had many minute differences.) There were two or three quick lines cut out. The pilot closed-captioned something about Jack lining up his helicopter with a populated area or apartment building. I guess the idea being that a missed shot or debris would hurt innocents.

Posted by: smak

Do the producers of this show have a blonde in danger fetish or what.

This year we have two blondes in danger so far...

If you remember the first year, when Kim and her friend are held hostage, the brunette gets tossed out into the street.

-smak-

Posted by: pmyers

quote:
Originally posted by minckster
When the helicopter pilots "d[id]n't have a shot", there were several differences between the closed captioning and the dialogue. (This episode had many minute differences.) There were two or three quick lines cut out. The pilot closed-captioned something about Jack lining up his helicopter with a populated area or apartment building. I guess the idea being that a missed shot or debris would hurt innocents.

dang...those few lines left out sure would have made a difference.

Posted by: bdowell

It would take a freaking moron to not be able to figure out at this point that future shows {uh oh, here come the anti-future show spoiler police again} will find that Jack gets away safely, the President lives and wins re-election, and Kim Bauer will be involved in some of the dumbest possible kidnapping/placing herself in danger type events that could possibly be shown on network TV, oh, you could also add in that the "virus" will be found not to be gone yet, and instead will come from a different source that hasn't been entirely revealed yet.

The show always twists and turns, and just when you think you can figure out where it's going, even if you have watched previews, you are tossed in a different direction because that's what gives the show -- even when it's beyond belief -- it's "edge" and gets people to keep watching.

Believe nothing except that there will be crys for:

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
spoiler tags for future information that is spoiled on the radio, TV, newspapers, the internet and just about anywhere else

Posted by: Frank_M

Two things that sort of came to mind this week...

One, since a lot of this is (as always) about Jack... I'm guessing that Gael has made arrangements so that when/if he was caught, he'd pin this on Kim. Or at least he'll threaten her with that.

And I think too that perhaps Gael is infected with the virus.

And lastly, if he shoots Kim next week... I'll give him $50. No questions asked.

Posted by: MacThor

quote:
Originally posted by Frank_M
And lastly, if he shoots Kim next week... I'll give him $50. No questions asked.

I'll raise. $100.

Posted by: Mabes

quote:
Originally posted by Medieval Guy
...except he didn't realize that it was Salazar's goons (who had been called in by the mole at CTU); he thought it was a plane that HE had arranged. It still hasn't sunk in to him that everything that's happened so far has been a ploy to get Jack to spring Salazar.

So the terrorists arranged this whole elaborate virus scheme so that CTU could trace it to Singer so Jack could single-handedly break Salazar out of a maximum security prison?

That can't be right, it's ridiculous. What am I missing? Let's see...

OK, they created the fake virus plot hoping that the government would release Salazar on their own, and they just got lucky the way events transpired, with some help from their mole.

But it that is true why even bother with the Singer kid? Why not just use the virus threat, after all they have that dead body. I mean after all, if CTU had found Singer a little earlier they would have known he didn't have a virus.

Posted by: mp2526

quote:
Originally posted by Mabes

But it that is true why even bother with the Singer kid? Why not just use the virus threat, after all they have that dead body. I mean after all, if CTU had found Singer a little earlier they would have known he didn't have a virus.

Singer could have been a decoy, to throw CTU off the track of the real virus. Jack breaking Salazar out of prison could just have been an unexpected bonus.

My problem with the whole story line is (and is one of the reasons the US doesn't submit to terrorist threats) why would you trust a terrorist to not follow through with his/her plan regardless of whether you meet his/her demands.

Posted by: Beavis

quote:
Originally posted by Graymalkin
Kim is a Lifetime Network movie all by herself.

You're killin' me! So True! I'm showing your post to my wife...

:D :D :D

Posted by: lfrazier

quote:
Originally posted by milo99
ok, the thread title has "spoilers" so enuf w/ the tags :) ...anyway....

anybody else see the 'twist' coming that Singer wasn't infected? I mean, that's pretty soon for the threat to be abated so easily. Unless that's just part of the day's troubles. whats the rest of the show's point, to get Salazar and Jack back????

Just speculating, but after seeing this weeks episode I had the thought that the medicine that the doctor started giving the president might be used to reactivate the virus that he got at the end of last season on his hand. Sounds like something over the top that 24 would go for.

Posted by: devdogaz

I don't think breaking Salazar out of prison was an "unexpected bonus." The whole point of the virus threat was to get Ramon out of prison. Whether the government actually sanctioned his release or Jack did it as a renegade didn't really matter to Hector.

It now remains to be seen if the Salazars will continue with the threat now that their dmands have been met. I think there has to be some continued threat to the population because if the only remaining threat is to Jack (and Kim), CTU has to let them go and chalk them up as a sacrifice for the cause.

Posted by: mp2526

quote:
Originally posted by devdogaz
I don't think breaking Salazar out of prison was an "unexpected bonus." The whole point of the virus threat was to get Ramon out of prison. Whether the government actually sanctioned his release or Jack did it as a renegade didn't really matter to Hector.

I agree that the point of the virus threat was to get Salazar out of prison. My point was that Singer may have been a decoy used to buy them more time.

They weren't expecting Jack to go renagade and do it himself. You can tell by Salazar's suprise that Jack breaking him out was an added bonus. I would consider being able to kill or torture the very person that put you in prison, a bonus (if I was an evil drug lord). I doubt that was even a scenario they considered, at least in the short term (they may have come after him later).

Posted by: TivoZorro

Am I the only one considering the possibility that Jack has had a prior relationship with Claudia Hector's girlfriend and this could come into play later on in the storyline. I know she told Hector that she didn't like it that they were bringing him to Mexico but something in her facial expression told me that she wasn't too upset. I don't know maybe I'm reading too much in it.

Posted by: mp2526

quote:
Originally posted by TivoZorro
Am I the only one considering the possibility that Jack has had a prior relationship with Claudia Hector's girlfriend and this could come into play later on in the storyline. I know she told Hector that she didn't like it that they were bringing him to Mexico but something in her facial expression told me that she wasn't too upset. I don't know maybe I'm reading too much in it.

I sensed something there too.

Posted by: smak

I think it's pretty obvious that she is going to be a major factor later on this season. Especially now that Jack seems like he's going to Mexico.

-smak-

Posted by: Crrink

My bet is that she's some kind of CIA/DEA/whatever mole.
...Or maybe 'ector killed her father or something, so she's on a one woman vendetta against the family.
Hard to tell with these inner-circle-of-a-drug-lord types.

Edit:
Oh wait, her father is still
alive - okay, so maybe they
killed her uncle....? :D

Posted by: ewolfr

Way-out-on-the-fringe-guess: Are they going to bring Jack to Mexico and infect him with the virus then let him loose on LA since, of course, he will want to say goodbye to Kim before he croaks.

Posted by: ScottE22

quote:
Originally posted by ewolfr
...of course, he will want to say goodbye to Kim before he croaks.

I seem to remember him doing this at least twice last season... For sure once with the nuke, maybe another time when Nina was going to shoot him??

What's a season of 24 without Jack saying his "last words" to Kimmie?

Posted by: laria

quote:
Originally posted by TivoZorro
Am I the only one considering the possibility that Jack has had a prior relationship with Claudia Hector's girlfriend and this could come into play later on in the storyline. I know she told Hector that she didn't like it that they were bringing him to Mexico but something in her facial expression told me that she wasn't too upset. I don't know maybe I'm reading too much in it.

Put me in the camp that thinks Jack was involved with the wife somehow, too. I'm betting they had an affair. Or that she's an undercover agent, too.

Posted by: Steveknj

Here's my two cents:

The drugs that Jack is addicted to is laced with the virus. HE will be the guy that can spread the virus. He will have to make a decision to either commit suicde before the incubation period or wind up spreading the virus. But of course, before he does this, he will have to get permission from President Palmer first! This show is so over the top this year, I can see it happening.

BTW, the three things that stand out to me that make ABSOLUTELY no sense are:

1) The mole getting a job in CTU to begin with, especially since it is assumed that Jack worked with Salazar undercover for years prior to them getting him. And that the mole is in a position of some power.

2) Chloe's role in all of this. She's so over the top obnoxious that I just can't figure out what her ulterior motive is.

3) Perhaps the biggest problem I have with this is wouldn't the US try to stop Salazar's brother through some covert means now that that thousands of lives are threatened? After all, he's in Mexico, a friendly neighbor in a high profile ranch somewhere, not Iraq or Afghanastan. You'd think Palmer could order the military to attack the compound, or even have the Mexican authorities do that. It's not like the guy is hiding, either.

Posted by: pmyers

quote:
Originally posted by Steveknj
...The drugs that Jack is addicted to is laced with the virus. HE will be the guy that can spread the virus. He will have to make a decision to either commit suicde before the incubation period or wind up spreading the virus. But of course, before he does this, he will have to get permission from President Palmer first! This show is so over the top this year, I can see it happening...

c'mon now....It's not like Jack is getting his smack directly from Salazar.

Posted by: mp2526

quote:
Originally posted by Steveknj

1) The mole getting a job in CTU to begin with, especially since it is assumed that Jack worked with Salazar undercover for years prior to them getting him. And that the mole is in a position of some power.

Apparently, moles are a big problem at CTU.

Posted by: TivoZorro

On the topic of the mole Gael, if I remember right he and Michelle had a conversation and he mentioned that he came to CTU from Langley. So we can assume that he is former CIA. That means he could have come into contact with the Salazars in some kind of covert operation but have been gone by the time Jack came in contact with them. Just a hypothesis.

Posted by: devdogaz

OK, I can buy the fact that Gael had contact with the Salazars before Jack did, but how long has he been at CTU? He'd have to have been there at least a little while to have free reign on that tech room like he does. If he has been there a while and Jack only recently came out of undercover and arrested Ramon, wouldn't Gael have been aware of Jack being undercover and have been able to warn the Salazars?

Posted by: pmyers

Is Gael the ONLY tech guy they have? It seems like it. That's an awful big room and a lot of keyboards/monitors for one person ;)

Posted by: mp2526

quote:
Originally posted by pmyers
Is Gael the ONLY tech guy they have? It seems like it. That's an awful big room and a lot of keyboards/monitors for one person ;)

It's not uncommon for server rooms to be that big with alot of key boards and monitors with little to no people traffic.

Posted by: e30mpwrd

I think it's realistic Gael would not have been privy to where Jack was undercover even if Gael was already at CTU, and certainly it's realistic that the Salazar's wouldn't have told Jack ALL their secrets--regardless of how much they trusted him (the whole "need to know" factor).

However, I think the season is heading somewhere else. The Salazar's seemed to truly believe that Kyle was key to their plan--a few episodes ago Hector made some comment to Gael that if they get Kyle their plan will fail. Also, Hector doesn't exactly seem like the visionary of the family. Combine that with the family's ties to the terrorist community. I'm betting that someone came to Hector with this plan--and with the virus. Ask Hector to pony up some test subjects for it (those people being buried in episode 1), and get him his brother back. Maybe they also offered Hector use of THEIR mole--Gael. That would explain why Gael didn't seem too bothered that everyone was closing in on Kyle Singer. Both Gael and the real plotters would know that Kyle wasn't even infected.

I think it will tie back to the mysterious group lead by the guy on the boat in the finale of season 2.

Posted by: pmyers

oh.....your good!

Posted by: dr_mal

your good what? :p

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

quote:
Originally posted by e30mpwrd
I think it will tie back to the mysterious group lead by the guy on the boat in the finale of season 2.

As far as I'm concerned, this goes without saying--the same baddies (whom I call the German Group) were behind the plots in both of the first two seasons; it seems almost silly NOT to believe they're also behind this year's plot.

I just hope, as I've said before, that this year they emerge a lot more from the shadows. Having a nearly omnipotent but invisible vast international conspiracy is a MacGuffin that can't really be dragged out indefinitely.

Posted by: TivoZorro

If the German Group is behind it all then hooray we may get to see Operations from La Femme Nikita back again! Yes! I could go for that scenario.

How much do you want to bet that the next dumb Kim move will be that she gets the gun away from Gael and shoots him. And he bleeds to death because she's too dumb to figure out how to get out of the locked room in time. Either that or she shoots him dead. Hence CTU will loose their one shot to talk to someone who has valuable information about the terrorists.

Posted by: desulliv

I'm beginning to think that Kyle was infected with the virus, but there is something in his immune system that killed it and will be the key to stopping the epidemic when it breaks out. I suppose there would be some antibodies that would reveal that, but who know? This isn't your grandfather's virus.

Posted by: dtle

quote:
Originally posted by Steveknj
Here's my two cents:

The drugs that Jack is addicted to is laced with the virus. HE will be the guy that can spread the virus. He will have to make a decision to either commit suicde before the incubation period or wind up spreading the virus. But of

I don't know about that.

First, Hector wants him back to Mexico. What's the point of that if he's infected.

Second, the incubation period must be VERY long, considering when Jack had his first fix. (6 months ago?)

Posted by: twilson777

my 2 cent about this car accident of a series.
Hector, get Directv, so can watch the pursuit of your brother and not be so clueless.
Nice security CTU on letting the mole not only have a cell phone but also a gun.
Caught my wife crying at the Kyle reunion with the family and the imminent death situation. Teased her til she stopped. Hopefully next season, loser dad can get a job as either a security guard or janitor at CTU.
Finally found myself crying at the end of the episode, because I realized I had watched another episode.

Posted by: Steveknj

quote:
Originally posted by dtle
I don't know about that.

First, Hector wants him back to Mexico. What's the point of that if he's infected.

Second, the incubation period must be VERY long, considering when Jack had his first fix. (6 months ago?)

But his current crop of drugs may be contaminated. My point is, that this show has gotten so over the top that anything is plausable and it doesn't have to be believable at all.

Posted by: HTH

The rescue of Kyle seemed a bit too easy. I don't recall seeing anyone there guarding him. And even if the chamber is soundproof, it has two big windows, so why didn't anyone outside the chamber try to stop his suicide attempt? (Even if they knew he wasn't really carrying the virus, he's still only good to them alive to maintain the illusion of the virus.)

Posted by: mp2526

quote:
Originally posted by HTH
The rescue of Kyle seemed a bit too easy. I don't recall seeing anyone there guarding him. And even if the chamber is soundproof, it has two big windows, so why didn't anyone outside the chamber try to stop his suicide attempt? (Even if they knew he wasn't really carrying the virus, he's still only good to them alive to maintain the illusion of the virus.)

I believe the two guys who brought him in were guarding him. Maybe they assumed that once he was in the locked chamber that he couldn't do much to himself, so they got a little too lazy and didn't keep eyes on him.

Posted by: e30mpwrd

There were other people there--the guys that washed down the guys that brought Kyle in. However, these guys have seemed poorly organized from the beginning--and only found Kyle at the mall with Gael's help. Seems to me more evidence that these bumbling drug dealers are being played by the people behind the real threat. Whatever part Kyle played in the plan (getting Jack to turn on his own government perhaps?) had already been fulfilled, so the real source of the threat no longer cared.

Posted by: devdogaz

As for there not being anyone else there when Kyle was rescued, you heard gunshots when the SWAT team came in and I think in the background you saw a bit of a firefight. You just have to assume that the good guys came in and overwhelmed everyone. That really wasn't integral to the plot.

Posted by: kyms66

I was thinking maybe President Palmer was infected. Her could have gotten the virus when his new Doctor/Girl Friend gave him a pill he never took before. Even Palmer's brother looked confused by the pill popping last episode.

Posted by: Steveknj

quote:
Originally posted by kyms66
I was thinking maybe President Palmer was infected. Her could have gotten the virus when his new Doctor/Girl Friend gave him a pill he never took before. Even Palmer's brother looked confused by the pill popping last episode.

Hmmmmm, I didn't think of that. That whole story line with Palmer and the doctor seems kind of strange in the context of the show, and really unnecessary, unless, what you just eluded to is true. Maybe she's involved in the drug cartel, and her ex-hubby is about to spill the beans on her (or maybe the ex-hubby is involved with them and is blackmailing the doc). It could go a lot of different ways.

Posted by: rasheed

quote:
Originally posted by kyms66
I was thinking maybe President Palmer was infected.

This is my current theory too. I think it does cause some issues with the physician "friend" and other aspects.

Rasheed

Posted by: purple6816

I think the pilots are in on it too. It is a giant conspiracy. The presidents girlfriend is really a salizar sister.

I certainly hope our government is not as stupid as this show claims. CTU is really a nickname for clueless.

Kim needs to go. She is really bad and her character is so not believable it is funny.

I will keep watching because once I start something I need to see it all. But, I am really wasting my time.