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Rich Girls (12/3)
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Posted by: Frylock

Is anyone watching this show? I can't tell who is more OUT of touch with reality... These girls, or the Simple Life pair...

Some classics from last nite's episode:
Ally's Friend (I forget her name): Ally, you're the most sophisticated and smartest person I know besides ... (lists her parents and a few others)
Ally: What's sophisticated mean?

I love how she says she wants to survive on her own and not live off Daddy's laurels, but can't even make a burrito, or know what is in nachos!

Posted by: pyrite504

<banging head on the wall>

If stupid were a color, she'd be bright stupid.

Asking the salad bar guy (who happened to be hispanic) at whole foods what kind of beans she needs ot have beans with her burrito.

Posted by: DLSith

Every week I watch this show, I swear I will not watch it again, but I keep doing it.

It just boggles my mind they think and feel the way they do about themselves.

Posted by: Crrink

I said it in the last thread, but I'll say it again - they're two of the ugliest people I've ever seen on display.
It's more than just stupidity.

Haven't seen The Simple Life yet, but it's waiting on the TiVo - why do I torture myself this way?
:-)

Posted by: Redstixxx

Did anyone besides me notice the black man in the tank-top holding the black baby in the hallway behind the mother when Jamie was moaning about her computer problems?

It just kind of struck me as unusual.

Posted by: Frylock

I missed that. But what was with the black baby in a diaper and yellow boots running around with no one watching it?

And I don't know if this week was as good as last week, when they complianed that most people bought Cargo pants because "they have so many pockets" and people in the midwest are all farmers.

Posted by: CTLesq

This show cracks me up.

Posted by: mp2526

quote:
Originally posted by Frylock

Some classics from last nite's episode:
Ally's Friend (I forget her name): Ally, you're the most sophisticated and smartest person I know besides ... (lists her parents and a few others)
Ally: What's sophisticated mean?

Actually, Jamie said to Ally that her intelligence surpasses 99.9 % of all the people out there. Ally then asked "What do you mean surpass?", as in what did she mean by the context of the sentence, not what does surpass mean.

Regardless your point remains valid, these girls are out of touch with reality.

Posted by: CTLesq

quote:
Originally posted by mp2526
Regardless your point remains valid, these girls are out of touch with reality.

Dare I suggest the following two thoughts:

1. They are 18. And they act it.

2. They are very rich and live in NYC.

May I suggest that their "reality" is not the "reality" of 99.9% of the US populations?

I don't defend them to the extent that other people go out of their way to be critical of them. However not growing up in NYC and then moving here later in life I can see how what your perception of reality changes. And it really changes once you start to have money.

CTL

Posted by: jsmeeker

They aren't *that* bad, IMHO.. Jamie (her mom, really) went to the street to hail a cab to go to the aiport.. Pretty much a normal person thing.. They flew jetBlue, as discount airline to Seattle.. And I know PLENTY of non really rich people that can't cook. It earlier episode, you saw how they didn't know exactly how to operate a gas pump.. For people living in NYC that don't drive cars, it's not so unusual.

If they were totally oout of touch, it would have been a limo or a sedan to the aiport, and a private jet or paid first class.

Posted by: Swirl_Junkie

Did someone just say Ally was ugly? I must have misheard this.

Posted by: Frylock

While they didn't take a limo to the airport, or flew a private jet this time, it doesn't mean they haven't done those things. They flew a private jet when they flew to their home in the carribean.

And yes, sorry, it was surpass. I couldn't remember exactly what it was.

And I pray to god not all 18 year olds act that way! I know I wasn't a complete moron when I was 18.

If you took away all their money, I really don't think they could function in society. They wouldn't know how to make a living, make a meal, find a home, etc... To me, that is out of touch with reality.

Posted by: CTLesq

quote:
While they didn't take a limo to the airport, or flew a private jet this time, it doesn't mean they haven't done those things. They flew a private jet when they flew to their home in the carribean.

Well they should be hung then because they have money! I fail to see how traveling privately equates to being out of touch.

quote:
And I pray to god not all 18 year olds act that way! I know I wasn't a complete moron when I was 18.

Well lets let MTV slice and dice and edit six months of your life into 20 minute segments and we will see.

quote:
If you took away all their money, I really don't think they could function in society. They wouldn't know how to make a living, make a meal, find a home, etc... To me, that is out of touch with reality.

And thats what this is really about : their money and the jealousy it creates.

I wonder what kind of living, culinary feats and lodging a typical 18 year old is capable getting, making and finding?

I think they are very much their age but with money.

And for those who really think they are out of touch - think at 18 you could navigate NYC's subway on your first try?

CTL

Posted by: mp2526

Maybe "out of touch with reality" is not exactly what I meant. More out of touch with the common man. Having money all your life is primarily the contributing factor. I don't fault them for it, but they do say some pretty stupid things because of it. The pockets on my cargo pants don't get much use either, other than maybe holding my cell phone, and I'm willing to bet that most cargo pockets don't see much use.

Oh, and I don't understand how navigating the NYC subways for the first time has anything to do with this. I probably would have some trouble initially, but I wouldn't have a nervous break down if I couldn't chop my onions and get them on the subway.

Posted by: Frylock

Do you think all people in the midwest live on farms?

Do you go into Circuit City and ask if they have Prada laptop bags?

I don't have any jelousy of their money, and just because you are wealthy, doesn't make you into a moron. It's their inability to cope with normal situations that makes them out of touch with reality.

Posted by: Crrink

When I said 'ugly' I meant in every sense of the word. I don't find them attractive, and I find few redeeming qualities in these girls.
Perhaps it's all editing, but I doubt it.

With regard to the money thing - many will hate them because of jealousy. Believe me, that's not driving my judgment. I work with people who make millions of dollars a year, and I make a very nice income myself. Some of these people are great guys, and some of them are awful. (I'm a really great guy in case you were wondering :D)

These girls are so arrogant. I suppose 'prancing around that damn city' like it's your playground might do that to a person, but still.
They are also very dumb.
-My dad invented cargo pants.
-people in the Midwest wear cargo pants because they need pockets - they don't wear them because they understand fashion - like I was going to wear a pair tonight with heels.
-Not noticing that your dog is sick with pneumonia until he's barfing yellow crap and can't hold his head still.
-In the first or second episode they mentioned how much they deserved the life of luxury they're leading because they're 'good' people. I'm not sure anybody DESERVES anything they didn't work for. They're lucky, and I don't begrudge them that - but where does the sense of entitlement come from?

Those are just off the top of my head.
This show takes a lot of anti-wealth stereotypes and shows us all that those stereotypes exist for a reason - because some people conform to them. I think it will fuel anti-wealth jealousy because the casual viewer is going to look at these two girls and their families and think that when Tom Daschle is complaining about the 'richest 1% of Americans' he's talking about these girls and Bill Gates. What they don't realize is that the people living next door, who own their own small business, are likely in that elite percentile as well.

Last thing - where does all the parental tolerance for drinking, smoking and sex come from? These girls are 18, for Heaven's sake. Dad would've wrung my neck if I'd been doing any of that stuff - their parents don't seem to notice at all.

Posted by: CTLesq

This is becoming amusing.

quote:
More out of touch with the common man. Having money all your life is primarily the contributing factor. I don't fault them for it, but they do say some pretty stupid things because of it.

And if we looked at the "common man's" day you don't think he doesn't have some dumb things to say? Maybe he just doesn't have the editors at MTV splicing his life together?

quote:
Oh, and I don't understand how navigating the NYC subways for the first time has anything to do with this.

It has to do with lifestyle and differences in lifestyle. By way of example you may know how to drive a car because you live in an area where driving is common. You may not as a result know how to get from point A to poubt B on a subway because you have no need to. But it doesn't mean you are out of touch with the "common man".

quote:
I probably would have some trouble initially, but I wouldn't have a nervous break down if I couldn't chop my onions and get them on the subway.

You thought that was a nervous break down? I don't know that their percception of reality is at question then.

quote:
Do you think all people in the midwest live on farms?

No I thought those people lived on plantations in the South.

quote:
Do you go into Circuit City and ask if they have Prada laptop bags?

Do you not recognize an attempt at sarcastic humor? Or is it the idea someone would want a Prada bag for their computer that offends you?

quote:
I don't have any jelousy of their money,

Honestly, the more you post the less I believe that.

quote:
and just because you are wealthy, doesn't make you into a moron.

And some of the things they have said are dumb. Does that mean they should be crucified? No.

quote:
It's their inability to cope with normal situations that makes them out of touch with reality.

And what have they failed at?

CTL

Posted by: mp2526

quote:
Originally posted by CTLesq

And if we looked at the "common man's" day you don't think he doesn't have some dumb things to say? Maybe he just doesn't have the editors at MTV splicing his life together?

I agree, most everybody says stupid things, however, most everybody doesn't have a TV show that points it out. If they did, I'd probably comment about them too. And if I had a show, I know I'd say stupid things, cause I say em now, and I'd fully expect people to call me on it. I do realize MTV does their share of editing to skew the show towards the perception they think makes a good story line.

Hey, man, they are 18 and still have a bit of growing up to do. I don't fault them, nor am I jealous of them. But you cannot deny they are out of touch with a with alot of things that most people would find common place. Some of this is due to age, some do to with money, and some to do with their location.

quote:

It has to do with lifestyle and differences in lifestyle. By way of example you may know how to drive a car because you live in an area where driving is common. You may not as a result know how to get from point A to poubt B on a subway because you have no need to. But it doesn't mean you are out of touch with the "common man".

I'm not referring to situations like these when I talk about being out of touch. I have a friend from NY and when he first moved to Texas, there where alot of things (Including driving) he was unfamiliar with, I did not think he was out of touch. I'm refering to broad statements like everyone outside of their social class dresses for function.

quote:

You thought that was a nervous break down? I don't know that their percception of reality is at question then.

I did correct myself earlier, I'm not questioning her perception of reality, and I admit this really has nothing to do with being out of touch either. I just thought it a little over the top that she made so much drama over the burrito, just because the art supply store was closed and she couldn't paint, but again, she's young.

I guess over all, what I find ironic, is that they perceive themselves to be worldly and mature for their age, I just don't see it (at least MTV doesn't allow me too).

Posted by: Frylock

quote:
Originally posted by CTLesq
No I thought those people lived on plantations in the South.

OK, so that makes you as ignorant as they are. I just moved from the Midwest to the south, but I never thought of the South as noting but farmers.

quote:

Do you not recognize an attempt at sarcastic humor? Or is it the idea someone would want a Prada bag for their computer that offends you?

I have no problem with someone owning a Prada bag. However, I don't know that they were being sarcastic. Do you? Were you there? From their actions, I have no reason not to beleive they would think CC would carry such an item.

quote:

Honestly, the more you post the less I believe that.

Why is that? I make a very good living, actually. Do I have the equivalent to the Hilfiger cash? No, of course not.

quote:

And some of the things they have said are dumb. Does that mean they should be crucified? No.

No, they shouldn't be crucified. But they did agree to this TV show, and as this is a TV forum, I felt that I had the right to comment on it. Yes, it is a lot of MTV editing. But if they went on it expecting them to be portrayed in a proper light, in a show called "rich girls" what did they expect?

If Ally wasn't the daughter of Tommy Hilfiger, no one would care about this show. Just like if Paris Hilton wasn't on the Simple Life, no one would watch it. These two have done NOTHING to deserve what they have. Their parents have. They worked for what they have. But the girls have this sense of entitlement and this aloofness to them. They clearly feel they are superior to others, and from your postings, I get the same feeling about you.

Their parents let them get out of control with the drinking and the smoking and the sex. They completely lack any sense of discipline. Do you think they have done a hard day's work in their life?

Posted by: CTLesq

This was your best point:

quote:
Do you think they have done a hard day's work in their life?

I don't care.

But it is apparent other people do care.

And I really wonder why anyone would care about what people on MTV "reality" shows do or do not do.

Why does it matter? We are talking about a show on MTV.

As I said in the beginning: I don't defend them to the extent that other people go out of their way to be critical of them.

CTL

Posted by: jsmeeker

a hard days work in their life?? They are 18!! They just graduated high school. Should they have cured cancer by now??

The Prada bag question was a joke.. Jamie and her mom know a place like CC doesn't sell Prada. Their drinking doesn't seem out of control. No more so than any other 18 year old kid from far lower economic levels..

but what do I know?? I've travelled by private plane, so I'm out of touch too..

Posted by: Frylock

A hard days work... Not necesarilly a job (though I think everyone should have a job by the time they are 18) but doing something challenging, and not having everything just handed to you...

And having a private plane doesn't make you out of touch with reality.

Posted by: jsmeeker

quote:
Originally posted by Frylock
A hard days work... Not necesarilly a job (though I think everyone should have a job by the time they are 18) but doing something challenging, and not having everything just handed to you...

And having a private plane doesn't make you out of touch with reality.

how do you know they didn't? The first episode is the end of the school year.. The second episode they graduate... We haven't seen much. IIRC, Ally has produced or was going to produce som movie or something..

:confused:

It's fun to watch them be silly.. Kinda sad to see Ally break down like she did this week.. I dunno.. I guess I just don't think the only people who are in touch with reality are the people that have to scrape up the pennies to buy their clothes at Wal-Mart..

Posted by: Frylock

What is it with the people here? No one ever said poor people were out of touch with reality. In fact, money is not the major contributing factor. You can be poor and be out of touch. You can be rich and be in touch.

These two just aren't in touch.

Posted by: jsmeeker

why is Ally so out of touch?? 'Cause she isn't sure what to put in a tex-mex dish?? She was in Connecticut.. NO ONE in Connecticut knows tex-mex.. :)

Posted by: CTLesq

quote:
Originally posted by Frylock
What is it with the people here? No one ever said poor people were out of touch with reality.

But who wants to see a reality show about the poor?

quote:
Originally posted by Frylock
In fact, money is not the major contributing factor.

Yet you continue to harp on it.

quote:
Originally posted by Frylock
You can be poor and be out of touch. You can be rich and be in touch.

yeah.....

quote:
Originally posted by Frylock
These two just aren't in touch.

In touch with whom? Is it so hard to understand that people have different peer groups, different socio-economic groups and generally different life experiences?

Oh thats right, these are wealthy 18 year olds.....a group you don't identify with so they must be wrong.

CTL

Posted by: mp2526

quote:
Originally posted by CTLesq

In touch with whom? Is it so hard to understand that people have different peer groups, different socio-economic groups and generally different life experiences?
CTL

That's exactly it. Which is why I rephrased what I said about being out of touch with reality. They are very much in touch with their reality and in touch with their friends/group.

They are out of touch with much of America if they make general sweeping statements like the cargo pants one and actually believe what they are saying.

Hey, I'm totally out of touch with these girls. I do pretty good for myself, but I just don't relate to that kinda money.

Posted by: bobbi

Wow, some of you are really harsh.

I don't know how to make a burrito. I don't know what kind of rice I'd use, what kind of beans I'd use. Same with cheese on nachos (I tend to use cheddar for everything).

I own a prada purse.

I drank and smoked when I was 18.

I didn't know how to unstop a toilet when it clogged on me...at the age of 28. Why? Because I'd previously lived in NYC in a building with a super. I also didn't know anything about car insurance. I have friends my age who don't know how to drive, or pump gas. Same reason...city living. Well, one of them...the other one doesn't know how to pump gas because it's illegal to have self-serve in New Jersey (really!).

But...I think I'm very much in touch with reality. Reality has nothing to do with what bag I own, what I know about how to run my house....what I know about mexican food.

These girls...they're 18, they've just graduated from high school, and they think they're going to change the world. They're acting like it. I was the same way, thinking that I was going to make a major difference, that I could do anything. I also went through the same "oh woe is me, my childhood is gone" depression thing. Hey, it's scary to realize you're suddenly going to be "an adult," and not have a clue where you're going with your life.

These girls aren't so out of touch to me. Stupid at moments, sure, but very much typical spoiled city kids...I knew a lot of them.

The girls on the Simple Life, on the other hand, are out of touch to me. They're older, they should have learned all the things that these two girls didn't learn (Ali saying she didn't want to be supported by her father for her whole life was a really good thing...could anyone imagine Paris Hilton saying that??), and they seem to relish their lack of knowledge.

Nicole and Paris are sad. Ali and Jamie are just kids, growing up. Rather rich kids (and being made a fool of by MTV), but they're really just kids.

Posted by: jsmeeker

:)

Thank you, Bobbi.. :)

Posted by: mp2526

quote:
Originally posted by bobbi

I drank and smoked when I was 18.

Just for the record, I think the comment was made because their parents don't seem to mind the smoking and drinking. No doubt a lot of us smoke and drank at 18, but we did it behind our parents backs.

not that this has anything to do with being out of touch in my opinion. Just different parenting than som e are acustomed to.

Posted by: jsmeeker

quote:
Originally posted by bobbi
I don't know how to make a burrito. I don't know what kind of rice I'd use, what kind of beans I'd use. Same with cheese on nachos (I tend to use cheddar for everything).

I

Cheddar is good for nachos... And to mix it up a bit, maybe cheddar and monterry jack. :) Beans in a burrito?? I like black beans. Or you can go with re-friend beans.. Actually, beans with nachos is pretty good too.

;)

Posted by: CTLesq

quote:
Originally posted by mp2526
That's exactly it. Which is why I rephrased what I said about being out of touch with reality. They are very much in touch with their reality and in touch with their friends/group.

They are out of touch with much of America if they make general sweeping statements like the cargo pants one and actually believe what they are saying.

Hey, I'm totally out of touch with these girls. I do pretty good for myself, but I just don't relate to that kinda money.

And let me ask you this: do you think the family of 4 in Peoria is buying pants at Wal Mart because they want to wear Prada because its trendy or because pants in Wal Mart are cheap and keep their kids clothed?

And the difference between your comments, Mark, and other people's comments is that you are making a reasonable observation about their on show comments and not making a value judgement.

CTL

Edit: About the smoking.

I am and remain horrified at the number of people that smoke in NYC. It is far more common than what I was (and remain) used to from Connecticut and elsewhere where I have lived.

And what most people have ignored - they are 18.

Posted by: mp2526

quote:
Originally posted by bobbi

I didn't know how to unstop a toilet when it clogged on me

You are out of touch with plumbers.

Posted by: CTLesq

quote:
Originally posted by mp2526
You are out of touch with plumbers.

When will the touching stop?

CTL

Posted by: bobbi

quote:
Originally posted by mp2526
You are out of touch with plumbers.

hahaha

I know a lot about them now. I even changed a shower nozzle myself! (My first apartment out here hand a ton of things falling apart that I just fixed myself...dummies books are wonderful things) :)

Posted by: bobbi

quote:
Originally posted by mp2526
Just for the record, I think the comment was made because their parents don't seem to mind the smoking and drinking. No doubt a lot of us smoke and drank at 18, but we did it behind our parents backs.

not that this has anything to do with being out of touch in my opinion. Just different parenting than som e are acustomed to.

My parents knew. They were happier knowing that I was drinking and smoking than having me hide it from them (and that if I wanted to drink and/or smoke I was going to do it no matter what they said). They also wanted me to know I could ALWAYS call them for a ride home if anyone couldn't drive because they were drunk, they figured that was much safer than me not wanting to call because we were drunk.

I wasn't a party animal (that was college :D), but I did go to my fair share of high school parties, and it was nice to know that I could call my parents in case of emergencies.

As for the smoking...my parents actually gave me my first cigarette at 13. I wanted to try...they figured they'd rather I tried with them instead of somewhere else. I smoked it, and got totally sick. I didn't smoke again for 3 years. Would I have smoked sooner if it had been a more elicit thing to do...if my parents had forbade it? Given what kind of a teenager I was, it's very possible. :)

Posted by: mp2526

quote:
Originally posted by CTLesq
And let me ask you this: do you think the family of 4 in Peoria is buying pants at Wal Mart because they want to wear Prada because its trendy or because pants in Wal Mart are cheap and keep their kids clothed?

I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. Maybe if you rephrase it differently.

Are you saying that the family of 4 buys cheap pants because they serve their purpose of clothing and not because of the trends? I would agree to some extent, but even Walmart bows to the trends, they are just cheaper and not brand names.

Coming from a family that had to shop at Walmart rather than boutique shops, I still would try to dress towards what ever trends were of the day. I just tried my best to scratch off and hide the brand names. Hell its one of the reasons I started working as early as I legally could, so I could buy my own clothes.

Brand names doesn't really matter that much to me any more I buy things I like, be it a Polo shirt or a $18 pair of cargo pants from Old Navy. But I still want to look good and I believe that the family of 4 does as well, they just have fewer options when shopping at Walmart.

Posted by: Frylock

Well, since CTL wants to take comments from this thread and start posting condescending comments in the Happy Hour, I will try to keep it to this thread. I hope he can as well. (The MX-700 thread is what I am referring to)

Edit: Hit enter before I finshed my comments:

1. I don't get your comment "who wants to watch a show about the poor?" Apparently, CBS thinks people do, with their concept of making The Beverly Hillbillies a reality show, ala a reverse of the simple life. However, many groups have been opposing it, due to their fear of it being offensive.

2. As far as the money thing goes, I am not harping on them. I am sorry if you feel that way.

3. With regards to out of touch with reality... Let me rephrase. I am saying "out of touch with the general beliefs/concerns of the greater population of this country" as mp2526 said. I am sorry if you didn't take it that way, but that is what I am trying to say.

As far as pumping gas because you live in a city, that's understandable. I wouldn't know how raise cattle, because I never lived on a farm. As far as owning a Prada bag, good for you, my wife owns a Louis Vutton bag. But why do you own the bag. My wife has one because she really liked the style, and didn't even know who LV was. With them, they want the Prada bag (they being the rich girls, not the previous poster) because it is a Prada bag.

As far as drinking and smoking with your parent's knowledge, personally, I disagree with that, but that is a personal belief.

Posted by: bobbi

That's true, about them wanting Prada just because it's prada. I have the bag because I was looking for a very specific type of purse (I was going on vacation, and wanted a big, floppy bag. I'm a little obsessive when I get the idea of something in my head that I want, and I will not stop looking until I find exactly what I've been looking for). I looked for, no joke, two months for this darn purse, and everywhere I could think of to look, from Coach and LouisVuitton to Kmart and Target. I finally found it on ebay. For me, the downside was that it was Prada, I hadn't expected to have to pay THAT much for the thing. But I do like it. :)

Posted by: CTLesq

quote:
Originally posted by Frylock
Well, since CTL wants to take comments from this thread and start posting condescending comments in the Happy Hour, I will try to keep it to this thread. I hope he can as well. (The MX-700 thread is what I am referring to)

Sense of humor?

Anyone?

CTL

Posted by: Frylock

quote:
Originally posted by bobbi
That's true, about them wanting Prada just because it's prada. I have the bag because I was looking for a very specific type of purse (I was going on vacation, and wanted a big, floppy bag. I'm a little obsessive when I get the idea of something in my head that I want, and I will not stop looking until I find exactly what I've been looking for). I looked for, no joke, two months for this darn purse, and everywhere I could think of to look, from Coach and LouisVuitton to Kmart and Target. I finally found it on ebay. For me, the downside was that it was Prada, I hadn't expected to have to pay THAT much for the thing. But I do like it. :)

This is my point. Sometimes, a bag that you REALLY like is created by a designer! My wife saw the bag and really liked the style and how it was built. She didn't know who LV was or didn't care. To me, that's fine. Bobbi's bag is also fine. Buy buying it because it is by a designer is not. Although, I suppose when your father is Tommy Hilfiger, and there certainly are people who buy stuff because it is Tommy, is rather ironical.

Posted by: Frylock

quote:
Originally posted by CTLesq
Sense of humor?

Anyone?

CTL

It would have been had you not made 2 posts. The first was:

quote:

A $200 remote?

And none of you are in the Rich Girls thread defending them from being "out of touch"? Shame on you!

CTL

and then you even replied to someone's thread with this:

quote:

Hey I have no problem with it AT ALL. Make it $500 and I could care less.

However you would have thought based on some of the comments in the Rich Girls thread if you weren't wearing burlap bags and sleeping on glass you had no concept of reality. So my comment was aimed more at those people.

:P

CTL

I just thought it was rather petty.

Posted by: CTLesq

And buying a bag because you like a designer is wrong because?

Because you know/appreciate who made it?

Because it is a status symbol?

Because the people who are your peers like the designer?

Because other people know how much it costs?

So I assume you bought an generic TiVo? Because buying a name brand TiVo, knowing what TiVo is would be very contradictory.

CTL

Posted by: CTLesq

What I find petty is the unreasonable criticism of wealthy teenagers because they are wealthy teenagers.

Kind of like buying a bag because you know who made it.

CTL

Posted by: Frylock

I bought 2 DirecTivo's. I don't know what a "generic" or non-name branded tivo is. That's a rather poor example, especially since it doesn't apply.

Buying a bad because it is a LV or a Prada is ridiculous. Bying a bag because it fits your needs, or you like the style/design is fine. I'm sorry if you don't see the difference.

Perhaps you are most concerned with your status and how others perceive you, and that is why you have taken such offense to this thread.

Posted by: jsmeeker

I'm so glad you know why people should buy and not buy stuff.. :rolleyes:

Posted by: CTLesq

quote:
I bought 2 DirecTivo's. I don't know what a "generic" or non-name branded tivo is. That's a rather poor example, especially since it doesn't apply.

You know, like a Comcast or Pioneer DVR. You bought a DirecTivo for the same reason I did - because it was a DirecTivo. You knew and I knew what that meant: ease of use, the best technology, etc.

Just like two little girls that want to buy an expensive hand bag because they know what it stands for: wealth, prestige...etc.

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Buying a bad because it is a LV or a Prada is ridiculous. Bying a bag because it fits your needs, or you like the style/design is fine. I'm sorry if you don't see the difference.

Or simple jealousy. People can't purchase for style? I am sorry that you can't accept that.

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Perhaps you are most concerned with your status and how others perceive you, and that is why you have taken such offense to this thread.

Offense from something written on the internet from someone I don't know?

Please.

No, what is offensive are the "workers of the world unite" denunciation of teenagers who live in a different world that you do and you attempt to place your values on them.

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Posted by: mp2526

People buy based off of brand all the time. From peanut butter to purses. Thats why branding is such a big deal to manufacturers. There is nothing wrong with it. Prada obviously makes a good product, because you don't make a bad product and then slap a high price tag on it and make a name for yourself. (although the opposite is true, once a brand is established, inferior products can sell on that brand, but not for long)