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Just starting watching Angel this week ...
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Posted by: GameGuru

Tivo caught for me the daily episodes at 4pm and the one new one this week and I think I might like this show. From the 6 episodes I have watched now I don't like the characters as well as Buffy's but maybe they will grow on me.

Ok the reason for my post is I have no idea what is going on and was wondering if there is a site that summorizes the seasons into a few pages(I don't mean episode descriptions but actually a story type explanation of what is going on)?

I do have some quick questions that might help me a little until someone has a link for me.

1. Angel has a child named Conner/Stephen it looks like. Who is the mother?

2. From the "Previously on Angel ... " intros it looks like the Watcher kidnapped Angels baby. Why?

3. Who was this guy and girl that took Conner from the Watcher, what is their story? I guess Angel killed the guy's child?

Ok, as I said this is my first week so I am kinda thrown into the story blind. Then I watched the new episode of Angel this week and am really confused. I have a few questions ha ha.

1. They are no longer in a motel, they are in some kind of law firm. What is that all about?

2. Cordy isn't in it anymore, what happened to her?

3. Spike is a ghost (I am assuming because of the Buffy finale or is there another reason?)

Well that is all I can think of now. Boy, miss 3 season of a show and you get lost I guess ha ha.

Posted by: LoadStar

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Originally posted by GameGuru
Tivo caught for me the daily episodes at 4pm and the one new one this week and I think I might like this show. From the 6 episodes I have watched now I don't like the characters as well as Buffy's but maybe they will grow on me.

Ok the reason for my post is I have no idea what is going on and was wondering if there is a site that summorizes the seasons into a few pages(I don't mean episode descriptions but actually a story type explanation of what is going on)?

I do have some quick questions that might help me a little until someone has a link for me.

I'd encourage renting/buying the first two seasons available on DVD now. It'll let you get into the series more than if you just pick up in the middle and try and figure out who everyone is and why they're doing what they're doing.

If you really REALLY want to know, I'll answer the questions - but I'll put it in spoiler tags so you can see what answers you really want to know, and skip those you don't. (In my edit, I'm adding un-spoiler-tagged "references" that mentions which episodes of what series the spoiler tag references.)

quote:
Originally posted by GameGuru
1. Angel has a child named Conner/Stephen it looks like. Who is the mother?

References: Buffy 1x07, Angel 1x22, Angel 2x10, Angel 3x07, Angel 3x09 (among a few others)

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
Darla is the mother. Darla had been dusted by Angel over on "Buffy," but Wolfram and Hart brought her back from the dead. (She was then "re-vamped" by Drusilla, and then Darla dusted herself.

quote:
Originally posted by GameGuru
2. From the "Previously on Angel ... " intros it looks like the Watcher kidnapped Angels baby. Why?

References: Angel 3x16, Angel 3x17

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
Wesley has a nightmare that he interprets as a vision, in which Angel devours his son. Meanwhile, Angel begins to act erratic and has mood-swings, and he begins to crave human blood thanks to Wolfram and Hart. To protect Connor, Wesley attempts to kidnap him.

quote:
Originally posted by GameGuru
3. Who was this guy and girl that took Conner from the Watcher, what is their story? I guess Angel killed the guy's child?

References: Angel 3x01, 3x16, among others in Season 3

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
That's Holtz, an 18th century vampire hunter. Angel and Darla killed his entire family, so Holtz made a deal to be turned to stone for 200 years and began to exact revenge on Angel in modern times. He took Connor as part of this revenge plan.

quote:
Originally posted by GameGuru
Ok, as I said this is my first week so I am kinda thrown into the story blind. Then I watched the new episode of Angel this week and am really confused. I have a few questions ha ha.

1. They are no longer in a motel, they are in some kind of law firm. What is that all about?

References: All of Angel, really, but particularly 4x22 (as it pertains to why they're in the law firm) and 1x01 (as to who the law firm is)

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
Throughout the series, Wolfram and Hart has been Angel's key nemesis. They're a law firm that represents the scum of the earth - and we're not talking earthly scum, we're talking unearthly - vamps, demons, forces of darkness sort of scum.

At the end of last season, the senior partners at Wolfram and Hart offered Angel Investigations the chance to take over the Los Angeles branch. Why - we don't know yet. I'm sure we'll find out. Angel and Co. decided to take W&H up on this offer - figuring that they could use the endless resources available through the partnership to do good instead of evil. However, they still have to run the law firm - and running the lawfirm involves defending those that Angel is sworn to defeat. It's a problem.

quote:
Originally posted by GameGuru
2. Cordy isn't in it anymore, what happened to her?

References: Angel 4x17 among events from Season 4

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
After giving birth to an evil god-like creature, Cordy slipped into a coma and hasn't come out yet.

quote:
Originally posted by GameGuru
3. Spike is a ghost (I am assuming because of the Buffy finale or is there another reason?)

References: Buffy 7x22, Angel 5x01, Angel 5x02

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
Yes, it's as a result of the Buffy series finale. Wolfram and Hart had an amulet that was said to be critical to what was going on in Sunnydale. Only one problem - someone non-human had to wear the amulet. That left it down to Buffy, Angel, or Spike. Buffy sent Angel away to set up the fallback position in case Sunnydale fell. Knowing Buffy would be needed as the slayer, Spike ended up wearing the amulet. The amulet closed the hellmouth in Sunnydale, at the expense of dusting Spike.

The amulet then turned BACK up in LA at Wolfram and Hart, bringing with it Spike in ghostly form. He's now tied to the LA branch of W&H - he can't leave the city limits without being jumped back into W&H.

quote:
Originally posted by GameGuru
Well that is all I can think of now. Boy, miss 3 season of a show and you get lost I guess ha ha.

Posted by: GameGuru

Thanks alot! Yeah friday they started Angel over from season one and Tivo grabbed it so now I will be able to see it all.

Posted by: cheesesteak

It can get kind of confusing. Last week I was watching the end of S3 on TNT, the middle of S4 on some other channel while ignoring the reruns of S5 on the WB.

Posted by: LoadStar

TNT shows seasons 1 through 3 during the "Primetime in the Daytime" block Monday - Friday @ 5:00 p.m. EST, and shows season 4 during their primetime block on Tuesdays @ 11:00 p.m. EST. If you want to see just seasons 1-3 without season 4, ignore the primetime showing and just watch the daytime showings.

There's also the broadcast syndication package - I think they have all of seasons 1-4, and typically those go in order. I don't know where they are in the cycle though.

Posted by: buffan

I know the original question has been answered, but rather than start a new thread, I have a question for someone who remembers season 4 well.

I've just finished watching seasons 1-3 on TNT, and, since they're not starting season 4 on the daily schedule yet, I need some help remembering something. It's disappointing that I have to wait as much as 3-4 more months to rewatch season 4.

Major season 3/4 spoilers here:

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)

Ok, at the end of season three, Cordy goes on to a higher plane. I remember that she doesn't return for several episodes in season 4. When she comes back, she seems pretty much like normal Cordy. However, she eventually is evil Cordy, then is pregnant, etc, etc.

What I don't recall, or perhaps ever knew: What exactly was the event when she became evil? Did she come back that way from her higher existence, or was there some later turning point?

Posted by: LoadStar

quote:
Originally posted by buffan
I know the original question has been answered, but rather than start a new thread, I have a question for someone who remembers season 4 well.

I've just finished watching seasons 1-3 on TNT, and, since they're not starting season 4 on the daily schedule yet, I need some help remembering something. It's disappointing that I have to wait as much as 3-4 more months to rewatch season 4.

Major season 3/4 spoilers here:

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)

Ok, at the end of season three, Cordy goes on to a higher plane. I remember that she doesn't return for several episodes in season 4. When she comes back, she seems pretty much like normal Cordy. However, she eventually is evil Cordy, then is pregnant, etc, etc.

What I don't recall, or perhaps ever knew: What exactly was the event when she became evil? Did she come back that way from her higher existence, or was there some later turning point?

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
She was missing for several episodes. When she finally turned up, she had no memory of who she was or who anyone else was. In the episode "Spin the Bottle," they attempted to use magicks to get her memory back... but all it did was wipe everyone of memory after their teen years. The reversal of this spell returned everyone's memories, including Cordy's, at which point she acted normally around everyone else. This was the first point that she began to be Evil Cordy.

It's unclear as to whether she came back evil, or whether it was the events of "Spin The Bottle" that caused it. (It's never been established officially either way.