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Posted by: dswallow
quote:
Originally posted by mercurial
Great, now I'm going to have to ask Kamakzie if he has any brain soap left so I can wash that image out of my head... Thanks... :D
Please don't use it all up; I would like to use some myself. ;)
Posted by: dswallow
OK, fess up whoever you are... someone's deleting posts again.
Posted by: trausch
quote:
Originally posted by mercurial
Great, now I'm going to have to ask Kamakzie if he has any brain soap left so I can wash that image out of my head... Thanks... :D
Actually, the guy behind him in the avatar picture might be wearing chaps... :confused:
Yeah Doug, where were you when that picture was taken. Do you often frequent places where men walk around with no shirts on?
Posted by: JEbbesen
quote:
Originally posted by mercurial
Actually, the guy behind him in the avatar picture might be wearing chaps... :confused:
And not much else it appears.
And Doug, Nice 3000 Posting!
Posted by: Kamakzie
LOL! I'll trade you what I have left for your place in line and my #220 :D Sounds like the NFL and working a trade. :)
Posted by: edrock200
quote:
Originally posted by trausch
Yeah Doug, where were you when that picture was taken. Do you often frequent places where men walk around with no shirts on?
Oh man that was discussed like 40 pages ago. ;)
Posted by: PJO1966
I just checked on the pre-order position that's being sold on ebay... he's up to $305!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...&category=61388
Posted by: madpoet
Given how much people are/were paying for Dish 921s on Ebay, I am not surprised.
Posted by: borghe
quote:
Originally posted by JEbbesen
I've asked on a couple of occasions but have yet to hear from Robert - and that's OK cause I'm sure he's been busy
lol.. two informative posts within an hour..
yes, I just emailed robert a day or two ago about upgrading my shipping from ground to two day... he responded saying it was done. he also confrimed that I will be in the second shipment.
Posted by: Darin
quote:
Originally posted by trausch
Yeah Doug, where were you when that picture was taken.
Heh, earlier in the thread Doug said "I've said exactly what the picture is of and where it was taken several times in this forum over the last 4 or 5 months." Now he can say that about this thread alone. :D
Posted by: dswallow
Someone needs to create a newsletter that indexes what's been discussed in this thread. And how many different times it's been discussed.
We'd be the first thread with it's own newsletter, anyway!
And we could also publish statistics... like how many times Darin & Doug were told to get a room. How many times someone asked about the nipple in my avatar. The number of times someone asked if the units had shipped yet. The mean number of posts between the same question being asked again...
Posted by: Kamakzie
Doug, keep up the good work I can make a fortune on this brain soap! :D
Posted by: PJO1966
This thread is big enough, we need our own zip code.
Posted by: PJO1966
quote:
Originally posted by Kamakzie
Doug, keep up the good work I can make a fortune on this brain soap! :D
I prefer Mental Floss.
Posted by: Kamakzie
Another great money making venture!
quote:
Originally posted by PJO1966
I prefer Mental Floss.
Posted by: Shark73
Does anyone know if we need to contact Robert to verify that our documents where received and if we upgraded to overnight shipping, if that was processed correctly?
thanks,
Jim
Posted by: KCWolfPck
quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
And we could also publish statistics... like how many times Darin & Doug were told to get a room. How many times someone asked about the nipple in my avatar. The number of times someone asked if the units had shipped yet. The mean number of posts between the same question being asked again...
Here's a statistic.....your posts alone account for over 10% of the 3000+ posts in this thread thus far.
Posted by: ricaltman
quote:
Originally posted by slocko
for a while so many boxes where coming to our house, that i had to restort to telling her that it was the same unit that was defective and i had to keep sending it back to get a new one :)
Had to laugh.
Posted by: dswallow
quote:
Originally posted by KCWolfPck
Here's a statistic.....your posts alone account for over 10% of the 3000+ posts in this thread thus far.
It'd be a lot more if it counted the number of times I've edited the list. :)
Posted by: madpoet
Heh, I just ended up getting a box at a local MBE... now she never even sees all the crap that I buy and sell :)
Posted by: ricaltman
quote:
Originally posted by madpoet
Heh, you too ric? :)
Gotta do what you gotta do. Not being able to Tivo record HD is just not an option.
Posted by: ebonovic
quote:
Originally posted by HDTivo4prez
Has anyone had any luck contacting Robert about upgrading to either overnite or 2-day shipping?
Nope, no luck yet.
Posted by: ricaltman
quote:
Originally posted by acourvil
Oh, and never, ever, complain about stuff she buys . . . .
One time I had to buy her a new Jeep just so I could get one.
Posted by: ricaltman
quote:
Originally posted by JEbbesen
My wife just shakes her head at my eletronic puchases. My only salvation is that I usually end up making $$ when I resell these items. In this case, she doesn't know how much I am spending, only that I am selling some old stuff to pay for it (in reality pay for part of it)
It is sort of a shell game. It's a good thing I don't get much close scrutiny.
Posted by: mercurial
quote:
Originally posted by Kamakzie
LOL! I'll trade you what I have left for your place in line and my #220 :D Sounds like the NFL and working a trade. :)
Hmmm... Tempting but I think I'll decline... Maybe I can blast it out of my head with glorious HD images from my new TiVo... :)
Posted by: mercurial
quote:
Originally posted by PJO1966
I prefer Mental Floss.
Oh yes... <Homer> Cinnamon Mental Floss.... Mmmmmm.....Arrrr.....</Homer>
Posted by: dropper
quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
I mention this not to frustrate you, but just for the opportunity to suggest you could come up to NJ and play with my unit while you're waiting.
Probably the dirtiest thing said on this topic...
See what happens when you take a quote out of context.
Keith
Posted by: Kamakzie
KC, you are working on an ignore again.... :down: :D
Posted by: KCWolfPck
quote:
Originally posted by Kamakzie
KC, you are working on an ignore again.... :down: :D
Doesn't bother me.....I have about as much to say as anyone else on here. In other words.....you won't be missing much. :D
Posted by: dropper
Wow, how things come back around. With all of this talk about obfuscating the purchase of this beast, I was taken back to my fist post in message #349:
quote:
I preordered a unit, probably #7953 on the list, but at least it gives me time to convince the wife or figure out a way to hide the cost :-P.
Turns out that whenever I turn on the HD STB, she can't stand that we can't do any PVR things to it. I have never brought up the price, and I hope that I won't have to.
Keith
Posted by: PJO1966
My SO is of the shaking head school. He thinks it's not necessary, but he'll see the light once we actually start watching more HD because we wont have to be home to watch it live. He also tells his friends how amazing HD is. He never comments when it's the two of us watching. He's a closet HD addict.
Posted by: leesweet
Hm, is it being a 'closet' addict if you tell your friends? :) Let's see... What do you hide from your SO but tell friends...
Posted by: mercurial
quote:
Originally posted by leesweet
Hm, is it being a 'closet' addict if you tell your friends? :) Let's see... What do you hide from your SO but tell friends...
He's an open HD addict but a closet straight guy... Yep... Another HD hag unmasked... ;)
Posted by: Darin
quote:
Originally posted by PJO1966
He's a closet HD addict.
Heh, that's funny. Most of my friends just don't "get" any of this stuff. I'm the only one I know that has any interest in it. A few of my friends have been coming over weekly to watch "Kingdom Hospital" (I think the pilot was better than the subsequent episodes, but I'm giving it a chance). Last night they couldn't make it, so I TivO'd it (in SD, of course), so next week we'll watch a TiVo'd SD episode, followed by a live HD episode. It'll be interesting to see if they say anything on about the PQ difference when we switch to the live show, and if they bitch about having to sit through the commercials. If our patience for the show lasts long enough, they'll see it all come together in about a month. :)
Posted by: slocko
any resolution on how we change the shipping option? ground from CA ain't going to cut it for me anymore.
Posted by: PJO1966
e-mail or call Value Electronics.
Posted by: midas
Well I posted this in another thread right after the Superbowl. But it's worth repeating here considering the path this is now taking.
quote:
Talk about someone that just doesn't get it!
First, let me say that I love my wife. We've been married for 31 years, but still, she finds new ways to make me shake my head in wonderment.
We've had a Tivo in the house for over 4 years now. My wife has had her own Tivo for that entire time. We've had 2 Tivos for almost that entire time. Her biggest concern when I told her we were dumping Dish and switching to DirecTV was that she didn't want to give up her Tivo.
But she was still mad when I told her that I pre-ordered the HDTivo. But this isn't really a shock. If our economy had to rely on my wife's spending habits, we'd be a third world country.
So today I come home for lunch and she asks me if I saw the Janet Jackson thing yesterday. Of course I tell her yes. Then she gets mad and asks me why I didn't call her in to see it. So here's the rest of the conversation.
ME: "I was watching it in HD, not on the Tivo"
HER: "Well you still could have let me see it"
ME: "But I didn't have the Tivo going.
HER: "You mean your HD box doesn't let you rewind?"
ME: "No, it's not a Tivo"
HER: "Well that's stupid"
ME: "Well that's why I ordered the HD Tivo"
HER: "Whatever"
Posted by: WSS
Was able to contact Robert to upgrade to overnight shipping once I found out he was shipping from California. Living in NY and having this travel cross country and actually making it here wasn't going to cut it :-) Hope these are double boxed as to hide the contents. He said I'd have it the morning of April 1st. WooHoo!
Time of Order: 1/16/2004 6:22:28 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12572
#98
Posted by: tomr
quote:
Originally posted by slocko
any resolution on how we change the shipping option? ground from CA ain't going to cut it for me anymore.
I just called the 800 number they asked me for my order number they told me it would cost 75.00 I confirmed and now I am set for overnight delivery.
that simple.
Posted by: Stuigi
quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
I mention this not to frustrate you, but just for the opportunity to suggest you could come up to NJ and play with my unit while you're waiting.
:p
I hope I am not reading too much into this :D
Posted by: joegolf68
I saw the EBay, listing. someone bidding over $300 with zero feedback!!!!
I'm sure that saga will be heard about before this thread vansishes. It will be interesting how this unfolds.
Posted by: madpoet
Eh, I'd remove 0 feedback bidders myself :)
Posted by: midas
Kind of difficult to ever get any feedback if nobody will let you bid on anything.
Posted by: PJO1966
Unfortunately, when I go to sell my current HD receiver I'll be doing it with zero feedback. I haven't sold anything on ebay in4 years. I hope I'll get some takers.
Posted by: TallGuy
quote:
Originally posted by midas
ME: "I was watching it in HD, not on the Tivo"
HER: "Well you still could have let me see it"
ME: "But I didn't have the Tivo going.
HER: "You mean your HD box doesn't let you rewind?"
ME: "No, it's not a Tivo"
HER: "Well that's stupid"
ME: "Well that's why I ordered the HD Tivo"
HER: "Whatever"
That is a great story; it hits close to home. I think I've got my wife up to speed on the difference. She loves TiVo, she tries not to admit out loud how great HD is, but she thinks I'm crazy for dropping a grand on HD-TiVo. Does not compute.
Also, could you all use a different forum for the innuendo?
Posted by: Kevin L
I require all 0 feedback and new users <30 days to contact me prior to bidding or their bids will be deleted. I suggest to them to do a few bids on cheap stuff, like DVDs or CDs to get some feedback before bidding on higher priced items.
Posted by: Stuigi
Well, what the heck. Whats another 60.00 when you've been waiting so long. I just ammended my shipping to overnight also. I called value electronics and they just told me to refax my agreement to them with the word ammended on top and specify overnight.
That was ez
Posted by: JEbbesen
I must be in the vast minority here, for $60 I'm not going to accelerate anything. In fact, for $60 bucks I'd move down the ladder somewhat.
Posted by: joegolf68
I have about 100 plus positive feedbacks on EBay without a negative or neutral, but I do remember when I had zero. I bought lots of cheap things like CD's and all. I also made sure to email the seller immediately after the closing and I sent the moeny out immediately. I quit PayPal when I got scammed (overseas bidders) but I often send CASH for items under $100 and have never had a bad experience with someone keeping my cash and not sending the product. EBay has been positive for me. I would be concerned with a zero feedback bidder on a transaction like this one. I'm sorry, but I see disaster written on this one, but if the guy bidding has PayPal, it should go ok. Just some observations as a long time EBay user.
Posted by: Kamakzie
After spending $899 on this unit I am going to stick with my $15 for ground!
Posted by: PJO1966
quote:
Originally posted by joegolf68
I have about 100 plus positive feedbacks on EBay, but I do remember when I had zero. I bought lots of cheap things like CD's and all. I also made sure to email the seeler immediately after the closing and I sent the moeny out immediately. I quit PayPal when I got scammed (overseas bidders) but I often send CASH for items under $100 and have never had a bad experience with someone keeping my cash and not sending the product. EBay has been positive for me. I would be concerned with a zero feedback bidder on a transaction like this one. I'm sorry, but I see disaster written on this one, but if the guy bidding has PayPal, it should go ok. Just some observations as a long time EBay user.
What about a seller with zero feedback, but has PayPal. Would you trust buying something from him?
Posted by: madpoet
Yes, because I can get Buyer's Protection these days. For a few bucks, I can make sure that I get my money back. Also, I only use a credit card so that I can dispute the charges if need be. And save all correspondence.
Posted by: PJO1966
cool... thanks. I've already noticed several sellers with the same HD tuner (Panasonic HDS20). I'm hoping there will still be some buyers left by the time I get it on there.
Posted by: joegolf68
I agree, with PayPal/credit card you have protection as a buyer, but it does lower the price that bidders will pay, IMHO. It would be better for you to have someone near you sell it using their feedback if it is great.
Posted by: hongcho
So, my question of the day is...
I am in NorCal and have the 2-day shipping. What's the probability that they will actually deliver it early if they can?
I guess I COULD just take 4/2 off and wait for the re-delivery if that happens, but I hate to miss it for a whole day thinking I could have gotten it a day early! :p
Hong.
Posted by: Kamakzie
hong, very good possibility because you are most likely in UPS/Fedex's one day ground delivery zone. So even at 2nd day service you SHOULD get it next day.
Posted by: btwyx
quote:
Originally posted by hongcho
I am in NorCal and have the 2-day shipping. What's the probability that they will actually deliver it early if they can?
I guess I COULD just take 4/2 off and wait for the re-delivery if that happens, but I hate to miss it for a whole day thinking I could have gotten it a day early! :p
The last thing I got delivered 2 day from somewhere south, took 2 days. It was shipped from Bakersfield, but went to LA first. It probably depends on whether the San Diego place has a direct link to SJ or has to go through LA.
The 1 day shipping is only $15 more than the 2 day shipping, so I went for 1 day, just to be safe.
Posted by: drewba
quote:
Originally posted by Kamakzie
After spending $899 on this unit I am going to stick with my $15 for ground!
I'm with you. It shouldn't take longer than 3 days to get here from Southern CA anyway, so upgrading to 2 day air just doesn't make sense. I'll just have to be insanely jealous for that extra day or two while some people are busy playing with their new toy.
Posted by: SocalDave
quote:
Originally posted by joegolf68
I saw the EBay, listing. someone bidding over $300 with zero feedback!!!!
I'm sure that saga will be heard about before this thread vansishes. It will be interesting how this unfolds.
I've been in communication with the current bidder. I currently don't have any concerns.
~Dave
Posted by: dswallow
quote:
Originally posted by drewba
I'm with you. It shouldn't take longer than 3 days to get here from Southern CA anyway, so upgrading to 2 day air just doesn't make sense. I'll just have to be insanely jealous for that extra day or two while some people are busy playing with their new toy.
Where it would make sense is if it got something to you on a Friday instead of a Monday. ;)
Posted by: dswallow
Order listing moved, for convenience, to http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...964#post1834964
Posted by: JEbbesen
quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Where it would make sense is if it got something to you on a Friday instead of a Monday. ;)
It's all a matter of the value of money. I have no problem waiting a few days, after all, how long have we already waited? A few extra days aren't that important. Besides, no matter what, you'll have yours a week before I get mine, I'll be able to live vicariously through your unit.
:p
Posted by: dswallow
quote:
Originally posted by JEbbesen
It's all a matter of the value of money. I have no problem waiting a few days, after all, how long have we already waited? A few extra days aren't that important. Besides, no matter what, you'll have yours a week before I get mine, I'll be able to live vicariously through your unit.
My unit is apparently going to be working hard to keep up with everyone's need to use it.
Posted by: JEbbesen
quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
My unit is apparently going to be working hard to keep up with everyone's need to use it.
Are you "up" for the task?
Posted by: Kamakzie
Doug why don't you charge a demo fee...?
Posted by: chilidip_tivo
quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Where it would make sense is if it got something to you on a Friday instead of a Monday. ;)
This is my situation. Second day is Friday and ground equals Tuesday or Monday (maybe). There's alot of good games and mafia shows this weekend but are they worth $40? Who am I kidding, I'll upgrade. :D
Posted by: herdfan
As for the WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) on the HD Tivo, she loves the current DirecTivo, she knows it cost $99, so there is no possible way she would imagine the HD version to cost $999. I will tell her if she asks, but she won't.
Besides, after I sold my DTC-100 on ebay, and then put my SA's with lifetime subs on, it will really only cost me around $??, no wait, I will be ahead by a couple of hundred. So she won't mind. I hope.:eek:
Posted by: drewba
quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Where it would make sense is if it got something to you on a Friday instead of a Monday. ;)
True, but I'm still willing to wait over a weekend if required to save $40. From looking at the UPS ground chart, that looks like the way it will work out.
Posted by: Gromit
I called to upgrade my shipping. I'm supposed to fax the forms back in with a note about the shipping change. Unfortunately my hard drive crashed a week or so ago so I don't have what I faxed. They (Robert?) said they would email the forms to me again. I haven't received that yet, but I have the forms (not filled out by me) on my tablet. I tried to convince myself that it's not worth another $40 but I know it will drive me nuts to not have it that first weekend.
Posted by: Kamakzie
herdfan, just let her think it is $99 LOL! Or do what my dad does, he lets my mom buy something equally expensive to balance the guilt factor. :D If and when I ever get married I will buy what I want and if my wife doesn't like it tough cookies! However I will probably be married for less than a year! :)
Posted by: JohnA
I think being in the second wave is actually a good thing. We get to learn about all the little quirks which usually accompany a new product release and avoid any frustration when we get our units the following week.
So all you gloating first-wavers post away so when I get mine there will be nothing unexpected. There, I've convinced myself!!
Posted by: mcgeesm
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dswallow
[B]This is a list of pre-orders through Value Electronics for the HR10-250 Hughes DirecTV HD DVR.
[snip]
My order number (I'll only say it's 132**) isn't listed here. Should I be worried?
Posted by: Kamakzie
JohnA, plus by then we can activate ours online because DTV will add the new receiver to the list by then :)
Posted by: Kamakzie
mcgessm, this is an unofficial list. If you want your position reported here please post it here. Time/date of order and place in line.
quote:
Originally posted by mcgeesm
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dswallow
[B]This is a list of pre-orders through Value Electronics for the HR10-250 Hughes DirecTV HD DVR.
[snip]
My order number (I'll only say it's 132**) isn't listed here. Should I be worried?
Posted by: dswallow
quote:
Originally posted by mcgeesm
quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
This is a list of pre-orders through Value Electronics for the HR10-250 Hughes DirecTV HD DVR.
[snip]
My order number (I'll only say it's 132**) isn't listed here. Should I be worried?
I sure wish people would read more of a paragraph than the first sentence. ;)
quote:
This is a list of pre-orders through Value Electronics for the HR10-250 Hughes DirecTV HD DVR. It has been accumulated from information posted in this thread and is in no way an official list provided by Value Electronics. Because this represents only self-reported information, it is not a complete listing of all pre-orders. If you're not listed (or your listing contains only partial or approximate information), post your order information in this thread and it will be added/updated. This listing is updated often and will be regularly reposted in this thread to keep it within the last 80 or so posts.
Posted by: Darin
quote:
Originally posted by Kamakzie
JohnA, plus by then we can activate ours online because DTV will add the new receiver to the list by then :)
Fat chance. They'd been selling my Samsung T160 for many months by the time I got it, and it wasn't in the list. The last thing I activated before that also wasn't in the list, and it wasn't a new model either.
Posted by: mcgeesm
quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
My order number (I'll only say it's 132**) isn't listed here. Should I be worried?
I sure wish people would read more of a paragraph than the first sentence. ;)
Ah yes, but isn't that exactly what I did? I, and I quote, "post[ed] [my]order information in this thread and it will be added/updated." Thus, I elicited a warm response that comforted me greatly (it was, after all, akin to "don't worry about it," even if you did try to toss in some public embarrassment), and posted my information both at the same time. I'm all about efficiency.
Posted by: Kamakzie
Well let me rephrase.. someone from here will try it online with HNS-UNKNOWN and if it works then we will know if we can do it. :)
quote:
Originally posted by Darin
Fat chance. They'd been selling my Samsung T160 for many months by the time I got it, and it wasn't in the list. The last thing I activated before that also wasn't in the list, and it wasn't a new model either.
Posted by: dswallow
quote:
Originally posted by mcgeesm
Ah yes, but isn't that exactly what I did? I, and I quote, "post[ed] [my]order information in this thread and it will be added/updated." Thus, I elicited a warm response that comforted me greatly (it was, after all, akin to "don't worry about it," even if you did try to toss in some public embarrassment), and posted my information both at the same time. I'm all about efficiency.
I didn't mean to come off snippy in that post; I did put a "wink" smiley there.
But no you really didn't give enough info to be added. I've added people who give their whole order number, or people who give the date/time, even the date/approx time, and I've added people who give partial order number and date/time... but you gave a partial order number and no date and no time, not even enough partial order number to make a guess based on what's there now, and that's just not enough to figure out where on the list to put you. And since the whole list contains date/times, and is in order by when the orders were placed, and that's the whole point of the list... now I need another smiley because it's sounding snippy again. ;)
Posted by: chezpaul
And another.....
Time of Order: 3/25/2004 2:55:11 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 14003
Posted by: mcgeesm
quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
I didn't mean to come off snippy in that post; I did put a "wink" smiley there. But no you really didn't give enough info to be added. ;)
You didn't sound the least bit snippy. I must have forgotten my smiley face last time -- won't happen again. :)
My order information follows:
Time of Order: 1/31/2004 11:35:02 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 132**
Posted by: dswallow
quote:
Originally posted by mcgeesm
You didn't sound the least bit snippy. I must have forgotten my smiley face last time -- won't happen again. :)
My order information follows:
Time of Order: 1/31/2004 11:35:02 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 132**
You're listed now. :p
Posted by: JohnTivo
Has anyone received the email from VE yet asking about which credit card to make the final charge to?
If I missed some post from Robert, well then :p
Posted by: dswallow
quote:
Originally posted by JohnTivo
Has anyone received the email from VE yet asking about which credit card to make the final charge to?
If I missed some post from Robert, well then :p
That's one of the two forms you have to return that people around here keep asking for.
Posted by: JohnTivo
I did that back in February when VE emailed them to us... I thought I read Robert was going to be sending another email this week to confirm the CC and verify shipping method.
Posted by: sotapoppy
quote:
Originally posted by Darin
.....BTW, I previously ignored the single place in line of 328 further down... if I use that to calculate the average, that puts me at #611...
Darin:
I hope you are right since that means I'd get my (I hesitate to say unit :p ) sooner than I have been thinking. But for you to be #611, starting with #328 on the list, or order ~12785, out of the next ~665 online orders, only ~283 would be HD TiVo. And this doesn't allow for any phone orders for the HD TiVo.
I was figuring that I'm closer to #800.
Posted by: JEbbesen
I received a response from Robert to my inquiry about my "spot" in line. I figure I'm about 325 give or take.
"Your order is scheduled for shipment the end April '04."
Reminds me of my wife, ask a question get an answer to a different question.
Posted by: SFWidescreen
For a long time I've had to keep track of two prices in my head, the one I paid and the one I told her about (which usually had a denominator of around 3.)
Then one day I was showing a fellow geek my brand new Pronto remote and my wife walked in and proudly proclaimed "Isn't that thing great, it's the best $75 we've ever spent on TV stuff!"
My friends toes were bruised for days from my signal to him that he shouldn't comment on her pricing.
Honesty has been the best policy since that close call. Fortunately, she loves TiVo so much (you can have our TiVo as soon as you pry the remote from her cold, dead hands) that she knows the real price on this one and is excited about us getting it next week.
-Curtis
Posted by: btwyx
Talking of WAF (which seems to be today's topic), we'll usually discuss significant purchases, and I'll make a case as to why the purchase is rasonable. My wife is open to rational argument, I seem to be quite lucky in that respect. It not necessarily the money that's the problem, for the switch to DirecTV, it was wiring. Once I got inconspicuous co-ax buried in the walls, the deal could then go ahead. Now she thinks the DTiVo is the greatest innovation ever.
One other stumbling block is the number of "blinking black boxes" (BBB's) in the living room. With respect to the HD TiVo, I took advantage of the pre-order, then discussed it. (In the grand scheme of things its not that expensive.) She has yet to see the advantages of HD, I hope a live demonstration will bring her around. This is also a one for one BBB swap so its easier to get away with, diplexing the OTA antenna on the Sat co-ax has also cleared up a sticky situation with repect to wires.
The change over from one box to the other is going to be a bit tricky, trying to get the new one up and running without losing any programs. I'm going to have to run them in parallel for a while (increasing the BBB count temporarily). I think I'll run one input to both the new and old while the new one gets its guide data. After the new one's got the guide data I can then stash the old one out of the way while we drain the programming off it.
Posted by: k2ue
quote:
Originally posted by btwyx
The change over from one box to the other is going to be a bit tricky, trying to get the new one up and running without losing any programs. I'm going to have to run them in parallel for a while (increasing the BBB count temporarily). I think I'll run one input to both the new and old while the new one gets its guide data. After the new one's got the guide data I can then stash the old one out of the way while we drain the programming off it.
Now if we had HMO, we could just move the programs to the new box. . . DO YOU HEAR US ON THE PLANET DIRECTV???
Posted by: micah67
I was able to "justify" the purchase by buying it with poker winnings. As long as I continue to win, I get to keep buying cool toys!
Posted by: MichaelK
seeing the fedex overnight comments about boxes going through one state just to come back again-
until a few years ago EVERY fedex overnight package went to memphis no mattter where it started and ended. So you could want to send a pakage next door and they would send it to memphis and back overnight. At the time it was cheaper just to do ALL the sorting at memphis then it was to worry about fuel costs and the like. I rememeber reading when they changed to 3 or 4 locations to sort but it seems more recently they are more like UPS and have sorts all over the place seperating things out so packages dont go on the grand circle tour.
Posted by: tremor_f
quote:
Originally posted by btwyx
The change over from one box to the other is going to be a bit tricky, trying to get the new one up and running without losing any programs. I'm going to have to run them in parallel for a while (increasing the BBB count temporarily). I think I'll run one input to both the new and old while the new one gets its guide data. After the new one's got the guide data I can then stash the old one out of the way while we drain the programming off it.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you have to re-run Guided Setup to change the number of tuners. You won't lose any programming, but it will take a while, and it will cause your DTivo to reevaluate all of your scheduled recordings to see if you have simultaneous recordings scheduled, and toss out the lower-priority ones.
-T.
Posted by: btwyx
quote:
Originally posted by tremor_f
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you have to re-run Guided Setup to change the number of tuners. You won't lose any programming, but it will take a while, and it will cause your DTivo to reevaluate all of your scheduled recordings to see if you have simultaneous recordings scheduled, and toss out the lower-priority ones.
For a minute there I thought you said it would lose all its programming when switching to one tuner. I certain hope it would re-evaluate its schedule when you've just told it its lost a tuner.
I've already checked the To-Do list on April 1st and seen that nothing important will be lost by having one tuner. I'll start making SPs on the new one and schedule a few manual recordings, and I should be able to get by. If I do find a conflict which needs 2 tuners, I just set up one of the recordings on the new one. It shouldn't take more than 2 days to get all the data it needs.
Posted by: ptrubey
quote:
Originally posted by JEbbesen
I received a response from Robert to my inquiry about my "spot" in line. I figure I'm about 325 give or take.
"Your order is scheduled for shipment the end April '04."
Hmmm - Doug's list appears to have your spot in line between 200 and 219, but maybe I'm mis-reading Doug's listing?
Posted by: joegolf68
Ok, jump me for being in the wrong Forum, but like, everything in this thread belongs? Besides, KC will have a comment or two which is always great. ;)
I am watching Fox News live, during commercials I want to jump back to a recorded show and then jump back to Fox when I think the commercial is over. Do I have to go to the list each time and select my program and then hit resume? figured there should be an easier method!
:)
Posted by: LarryInAz
I know I asked this earlier in this thread but I still have not heard a definitive answer on what carrier will be used, UPS or Fedex?
On the VE web sight it specifically says UPS, others have mentioned on this thread FedEx.
Which one is it Robert? :confused:
Posted by: dswallow
quote:
Originally posted by joegolf68
Ok, jump me for being in the wrong Forum, but like, everything in this thread belongs? Besides, KC will have a comment or two which is always great. ;)
I am watching Fox News live, during commercials I want to jump back to a recorded show and then jump back to Fox when I think the commercial is over. Do I have to go to the list each time and select my program and then hit resume? figured there should be an easier method!
It's the live buffer that's paused, so maybe hitting live TV and possibly switching tuners would work. Why not just do a controlled experiment to check? (And report back!) :)
Posted by: neilaevans
quote:
Originally posted by joegolf68
Ok, jump me for being in the wrong Forum, but like, everything in this thread belongs? Besides, KC will have a comment or two which is always great. ;)
I am watching Fox News live, during commercials I want to jump back to a recorded show and then jump back to Fox when I think the commercial is over. Do I have to go to the list each time and select my program and then hit resume? figured there should be an easier method!
:)
I don't think there's any shortcut besides going to NP everytime, but if you are planning on keeping your old Tivo when you get the HDTivo, your best bet might be to switch from box to box (with a simple macro on your Harmony). Have Fox News live on the SDTivo, and your recorded show on the HDTivo, and just use the macro to switch your receiver/tv inputs back and forth at commercials. I do something similar now going between my Tivo and my HD receiver. (Particularly when Tivo tells me "Please wait..." then I know its time to watch some HD for five minutes or so).
I just set up a onebutton macro on my MX700 on the Tivo page which switches everything to HD, and the reverse macro on the HD page. I'm sure you can do something similar on the Harmony.
Edit to add: Or try what Doug says... :)
Posted by: herdfan
quote:
Originally posted by btwyx
She has yet to see the advantages of HD, I hope a live demonstration will bring her around.
Same boat here. I for the life of me can not understand her not thinking.:confused: We watched the superbowl and the Daytona 500 in HD and she was like yeah its nice but.....????
Since I probably won't have my pre-order in time, I will be going to my parents to watch The Master's (at least Sunday's round) on their HDTV since I already sold my DTC100 in anticipation of getting this box.
Maybe if I can Tivo (I know, its not a verb:p ) a few of her programs in HD, she will start to see the benefits. But for now, all she sees is more sports and Soprano's.
Posted by: cheridave
As long as I do all the work on our HT and make it user friendly--
My wife has no problem with any of this stuff--
Although we have never had TIVO--
I think she is more excited than I am--
Which is a good thing since I'll have to buy the "HD-TIVO Series 2" in less then a year from now!:)
Dave
Posted by: JEbbesen
quote:
Originally posted by ptrubey
Hmmm - Doug's list appears to have your spot in line between 200 and 219, but maybe I'm mis-reading Doug's listing?
No, I should be around 325 - but I'm confused as to why I would be told the end of April. Something's not right in tivoland but I hesitate to contact them again - it will come when it comes.
Posted by: dswallow
quote:
Originally posted by JEbbesen
No, I should be around 325 - but I'm confused as to why I would be told the end of April. Something's not right in tivoland but I hesitate to contact them again - it will come when it comes.
If you got it at the beginning of April, it still would be correct to say you'd have it at the end of April, right? :D
Posted by: TreoFred
quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
If you got it at the beginning of April, it still would be correct to say you'd have it at the end of April, right? :D
So Doug, either you're helplessly optimistic or Robert is extremely conservative...
Being so much further down in line, I vote for Robert being conservative http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/images/smilies/hmmmmmmm.gif
Posted by: CAC99
quote:
Originally posted by joegolf68
Ok, jump me for being in the wrong Forum, but like, everything in this thread belongs? Besides, KC will have a comment or two which is always great. ;)
I am watching Fox News live, during commercials I want to jump back to a recorded show and then jump back to Fox when I think the commercial is over. Do I have to go to the list each time and select my program and then hit resume? figured there should be an easier method!
:)
Hi, if I get your question correctly, the way I do it is to hit the left arrow button while watching live TV. This takes me back to the recorded show I was watching (or at least the screen with the resume menu on it). I watch the recorded show and then hit live TV to go back.
Posted by: TreoFred
quote:
Originally posted by joegolf68
I am watching Fox News live, during commercials I want to jump back to a recorded show and then jump back to Fox when I think the commercial is over. Do I have to go to the list each time and select my program and then hit resume? figured there should be an easier method!
:)
Hi, if I get your question correctly, you're watching Fox News ??? http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/images/smilies/puke.gif
Just kidding... :D CAC99 beat me to the post with the same answer I was going to give and there's no way I wasn't going to post anyway: since when do we need to have something to say ? ;)
Posted by: TreoFred
quote:
Originally posted by Darin
EDIT: and BTW, I previously ignored the single place in line of 328 further down... if I use that to calculate the average, that puts me at #611. Still within the third shipment if it's 200. :D I do still think though that the slope of reports is going to cause me to be a little later, but I still don't think it'll cause me to be later than 4th shipment IF they are shipments of 200. FWIW, I also ignored those few people that ordered two units, as I wasn't sure how Robert reported their place in line. Wasn't enough of those to really affect it anyway, so I just ignored it.
...mkay... I'm still confused as how you got to that number :confused:
But I'm all in favor of it seeing as I'm on top of you (easy, I'm talking about the list :D ) and I was guestimating my rank in the mid 700 so... :up:
Posted by: slocko
i used to look at high shipping fedex charges and wonder what idiot would pay that much to get something in 1 or 2 days.
guess what?
i am no officially one of those idiots :D i am paying $70 dollars to get this thing overnighted to me. hey, might as well pamper my baby right from the get go!
Posted by: dswallow
quote:
Originally posted by slocko
i am no officially one of those idiots :D i am paying $70 dollars to get this thing overnighted to me. hey, might as well pamper my baby right from the get go!
Demand, meet supply. :D
Posted by: dandrewk
quote:
Originally posted by slocko
i used to look at high shipping fedex charges and wonder what idiot would pay that much to get something in 1 or 2 days.
guess what?
i am no officially one of those idiots :D i am paying $70 dollars to get this thing overnighted to me. hey, might as well pamper my baby right from the get go!
Speaking as someone who has spent agonizing moments waiting for a delivery... getting it overnight is well worth the extra money. What is the value for peace of mind?
My biggest nightmare - a few weeks ago, waiting for delivery of my Thinkpad. I had upgraded shipment (Airborne/DHL) for delivery by noon. Kept checking tracking status, occasionally looking outside on my doorstep. I even have a security camera for my front doorstep. No way would they ring a doorbell or drop it off without my knowing.
11:00... 11:30... 11:45... nothing. Around noon I do another check of tracking. It says "delivered to front doorstep". Huh? I look outside - NOTHING! Mild panic sets in - I call Airborne, get shifted around before I get a hold of a supervisor who will contact the local office so they can track down the driver. Will take a few hours. I look at all the doorsteps on my block. No packages.
My mind started thinking (I HATE it when it does that!): The driver is keeping it. They delivered to the wrong address. Somebody snared it before I even knew it was there.
Then, about 1:30... it gets delivered by Airborne. Just dropped off the $2k laptop on my doorstep, no sig, no knock or doorbell. I stongly suspect the driver entered the bogus delivery info just to make the noon deadline.
That was a scary couple of hours... I hope next Thursday goes a bit easier.
Posted by: txfeinbergs
quote:
Originally posted by slocko
i used to look at high shipping fedex charges and wonder what idiot would pay that much to get something in 1 or 2 days.
guess what?
i am no officially one of those idiots :D i am paying $70 dollars to get this thing overnighted to me. hey, might as well pamper my baby right from the get go!
Pamper it? Actually, lets examine this process. Joe Schmo Fed Ex person sees it is overnight and goes "Whoa, this has to be in <insert place far away> by tomorrow". He drives like a maniac to get it to the airport (your tivo is getting smashed around in the back of the truck as he accelerates and brakes. He hands it off to the airport personnell. Have you seen how airports handle your baggage?? Your TIVO gets thrown across the airport sorting center, dropped a few times off the cargo loader, and finally makes it one the plane. At the other end, your TIVO is rushed to a local sorting center where it goes though a bunch of conveyor belts and big sorting machines (set on extra fast mode). Your TIVO will come shooting out of the machine like a bullet from a gun, into the hands of another maniac driver. Finally, it arrives at your house where the guy throws it on your front porch (assuming you signed a release waiver in advance, otherwise, if you aren't home, you have to wait another day for your TIVO to make the rounds again).
Just messing with you :)
Posted by: JaguarCRO
On the topic of WAF.
In my case I am always honest with my wife. She knows how much the HDTiVo cost. It helps that is is the only electronics gear that I have on my "want to buy" list this year. It also helps that we didn't buy a previous HD-STB and that she uses the TiVo more than me (I most want the HDTiVo for MLS on HDNet) :)
It also doesn't hurt that I have been talking about it all the time since we got our HDTV (September of last year.)
Basically this is a case where she sees the desire on my part and believes the benefit will be worth the cost. I think she will like it alot more than she thinks once it is in daily use.
---
On another item I tried to pm Robert about my expected ship date (mailbox full) so I then dropped them an email at the address they had on the special avs/TC HDTiVo pre-order page. It has been 3 days and I have yet to hear anything back. :(
I know I am toward the end of the list but I hope they are able to ship by the 1st week in May so I can catch on the HDnet games of my fav. team (San Jose Earthquakes)
Posted by: TallGuy
Quick tangent - what else is there but tangents anymore -- for those of us who are using the new box to replace an old D* receiver, it is allowed by D* to transfer an old access card (only 1 year old) into the new HD-TiVo as long as you give them the number during activation? I'm thinking that then you can sell the never-activated card that came with the new HD-TiVo as a throw-in with the old receiver you sell on eBay. Then the buyer doesn't have to get a new $20 card from D*. Then they're so happy they bid a little more for you. There's probably a reason this won't work and this is the group to enlighten me.
Posted by: TreoFred
quote:
Originally posted by dandrewk
Speaking as someone who has spent agonizing moments waiting for a delivery... getting it overnight is well worth the extra money. What is the value for peace of mind?
My biggest nightmare - a few weeks ago, waiting for delivery of my Thinkpad. I had upgraded shipment (Airborne/DHL) for delivery by noon. Kept checking tracking status, occasionally looking outside on my doorstep. I even have a security camera for my front doorstep. No way would they ring a doorbell or drop it off without my knowing.
11:00... 11:30... 11:45... nothing. Around noon I do another check of tracking. It says "delivered to front doorstep". Huh? I look outside - NOTHING! Mild panic sets in - I call Airborne, get shifted around before I get a hold of a supervisor who will contact the local office so they can track down the driver. Will take a few hours. I look at all the doorsteps on my block. No packages.
My mind started thinking (I HATE it when it does that!): The driver is keeping it. They delivered to the wrong address. Somebody snared it before I even knew it was there.
Then, about 1:30... it gets delivered by Airborne. Just dropped off the $2k laptop on my doorstep, no sig, no knock or doorbell. I stongly suspect the driver entered the bogus delivery info just to make the noon deadline.
That was a scary couple of hours... I hope next Thursday goes a bit easier.
Airborne is the worst...
I remember a few years back getting a brand new Dell system, complete with flat panel. Tracking, tracking, tracking... nothing... then delivered ! But I have nothing home ! 3 hours to find from Airborne that because I wasn't home (not true) they just dropped it at my neighbour!
So I run to my neighbours, both of them, and nobody has seen my package!!!
A couple of hours later, somebody leaving 2 houses down from me stopped by and gave me my packages, that some twenty something driver had delivered to him earlier during the day !
I leave at 35. The guy went and knock at 33 (neighbour at work so no luck). He then proceeded to deliver it to 31 !
I mean, what's $5k worth of equipment, right ? :rolleyes:
Posted by: dandrewk
quote:
Originally posted by txfeinbergs
Pamper it? Actually, lets examine this process. Joe Schmo Fed Ex person sees it is overnight and goes "Whoa, this has to be in <insert place far away> by tomorrow". He drives like a maniac to get it to the airport (your tivo is getting smashed around in the back of the truck as he accelerates and brakes. He hands it off to the airport personnell. Have you seen how airports handle your baggage?? Your TIVO gets thrown across the airport sorting center, dropped a few times off the cargo loader, and finally makes it one the plane. At the other end, your TIVO is rushed to a local sorting center where it goes though a bunch of conveyor belts and big sorting machines (set on extra fast mode). Your TIVO will come shooting out of the machine like a bullet from a gun, into the hands of another maniac driver. Finally, it arrives at your house where the guy throws it on your front porch (assuming you signed a release waiver in advance, otherwise, if you aren't home, you have to wait another day for your TIVO to make the rounds again).
Just messing with you :)
I know you are just messing, but...
I had a UPS driver advise me to always send anything remotely fragile via air service. Even 3 day economy. Shipping via ground means it will go through several more stops and transit points. More handling. More chances for the package to get dropped, manhandled, lost or stolen.
UPS management expects and accepts that ground packages will suffer damage. They don't tolerate the same with air packages. And the employees all know this, and act accordingly.
"Hey Joe - look, another package from Value Electronics. Ground shipment. Here.... CATCH!"...
Posted by: dandrewk
quote:
Originally posted by TreoFred
Airborne is the worst...
This used to be SO true! They were cheap, but awful. UPS drivers claimed it's because they were non-union.
Then they started to get a bit better. Not as good as UPS or Fed Ex, but more acceptable.
Now that DHL has bought them, expect them to be on par with the best. DHL has a sterling rep, so they will whip Airborne into shape in no time.
Posted by: elstonhill
quote:
Originally posted by dandrewk
I know you are just messing, but...
I had a UPS driver advise me to always send anything remotely fragile via air service. Even 3 day economy. Shipping via ground means it will go through several more stops and transit points. More handling. More chances for the package to get dropped, manhandled, lost or stolen.
UPS management expects and accepts that ground packages will suffer damage. They don't tolerate the same with air packages. And the employees all know this, and act accordingly.
"Hey Joe - look, another package from Value Electronics. Ground shipment. Here.... CATCH!"...
I have had lots of electronic stuff delivered ground with no problems. I have also had air shipments when there was no extra charge. Both ways I tracked the packages, and it seems that they move through approximately the same amount of transit points. For example, an air package from the east coast gets picked up by truck, then goes by air to Memphis, then gets transferred to another plane, then goes by truck to the distribution center, and finally gets on truck to my house. Either way, in the unlikely event that the package is damaged, the package is insured. A year from now I will not appreciate the extra four days that air got me.
Posted by: dandrewk
quote:
Originally posted by elstonhill
I have had lots of electronic stuff delivered ground with no problems. I have also had air shipments when there was no extra charge. Both ways I tracked the packages, and it seems that they move through approximately the same amount of transit points. For example, an air package from the east coast gets picked up by truck, then goes by air to Memphis, then gets transferred to another plane, then goes by truck to the distribution center, and finally gets on truck to my house. Either way, in the unlikely event that the package is damaged, the package is insured. A year from now I will not appreciate the extra four days that air got me.
The tracking info that is publicly available does not specify all the stops and tranfers along the way for ground shipments.
Posted by: dropper
I won't tell you then about the $60K in servers (1 huge, 1 normal) I just got 2 day from FedEx. Looked like they were shipped ground. They were dented and everything in my cluster server was loose (good thing they were on sliders). HP makes some durrable stuff, but the HD's in my BDC are toast.
Keith
Posted by: dandrewk
quote:
Originally posted by dropper
I won't tell you then about the $60K in servers (1 huge, 1 normal) I just got 2 day from FedEx. Looked like they were shipped ground. They were dented and everything in my cluster server was loose (good thing they were on sliders). HP makes some durrable stuff, but the HD's in my BDC are toast.
Keith
Ok, it's time to trash or praise shippers.
Fed Ex ground is (imho) the very worst there is out there. They are slow, sloppy, and their tracking system is a joke.
You may be aware that Fed Ex ground is not actually run by Fed Ex. It is actually 3 or 4 regional shippers that operate under license from Fed Ex. It may be that other areas of the country get better service than the west coast, but when I see something from Fed Ex ground, I can assume missed deliveries.
Fed Ex really needs to get on top of these guys, because they are giving the (otherwise outstanding) rest of the company a bad name.
Just ask the regular Fed Ex drivers what they think about the "green truck".
Posted by: dswallow
Order listing moved, for convenience, to http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...497#post1836497
Posted by: RANSOME
Time of Order: 3/11/2004 5:49:44 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13814
Looks like November for me..;)
Posted by: Rick Westlund
Time of order, 1/18/2004 12:22:48 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12723
Hopefully before the first HD Cubs game and Masters weekend!!
Posted by: Rick Westlund
Confirmed number 253
Posted by: tarmack
Okay...okay....all of the "shipping" stories and in transit damage stories have gotten my attention....your regular retired old fart cheapy that chose ground delivery.(I am in the 3rd or 4th week of April for estimated delivery)
I want to change that option to overnight....so HOW do I do that with email boxes full, and no longer having a copy of the fax pages available for a second re-send.
Is the phone call personally the best....or would it be possible for Robert to post on his VE website page....a special "order" area for upgraded shipping option?
quote:
Originally posted by LarryInAz
I know I asked this earlier in this thread but I still have not heard a definitive answer on what carrier will be used, UPS or Fedex?
On the VE web sight it specifically says UPS, others have mentioned on this thread FedEx.
Which one is it Robert? :confused:
Posted by: Gromit
quote:
Originally posted by TallGuy
Quick tangent - what else is there but tangents anymore -- for those of us who are using the new box to replace an old D* receiver, it is allowed by D* to transfer an old access card (only 1 year old) into the new HD-TiVo as long as you give them the number during activation? I'm thinking that then you can sell the never-activated card that came with the new HD-TiVo as a throw-in with the old receiver you sell on eBay. Then the buyer doesn't have to get a new $20 card from D*. Then they're so happy they bid a little more for you. There's probably a reason this won't work and this is the group to enlighten me.
I'd like to know about this too. I'd love to transfer the card in my Samsung HD receiver over to the HD TiVo. I guess I can just call DirecTV when I get the HD TiVo, but if anyone knows the best way to handle this, let us know.
Posted by: k2ue
quote:
Originally posted by Gromit
I'd like to know about this too. I'd love to transfer the card in my Samsung HD receiver over to the HD TiVo. I guess I can just call DirecTV when I get the HD TiVo, but if anyone knows the best way to handle this, let us know.
They wouldn't even let me transfer the card from my first TS360 to the second -- I followed the printed replacement instructions and moved the card because there was "no card in the slot" of the new one, as printed, but they wouldn't authorize until I unwrapped the new card in the box with the new receiver and used it -- this was done by a supervisor because the csr was a newbie who hadn't done a receiver swap before. I suspect the deal is that they don't know if you hacked the old card, so if they make you change to a fresh card every time you change equipment it forces hacked cards out of service.
Posted by: tomr
quote:
Originally posted by Rick Westlund
Time of order, 1/18/2004 12:22:48 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12723
Hopefully before the first HD Cubs game and Masters weekend!!
Oh my Gosh, at first I thought you meant when the Cubs WIN a world series! I think cars will fly before that happens. :D I lost faith in 1969, the year they shoulda!
Posted by: LarryInAz
quote:
Originally posted by tarmack
I want to change that option to overnight....so HOW do I do that with email boxes full, and no longer having a copy of the fax pages available for a second re-send.
Is the phone call personally the best....or would it be possible for Robert to post on his VE website page....a special "order" area for upgraded shipping option?
The "old fashioned" phone call is always the best IMHO. :up: :up: :up:
Posted by: mikeb33
So they are sitting on about $50,000 of pre order money! Somebody should go by his house once in a while, see if there is a new car in the drive or if he is getting a new pool.
MIKE
Posted by: slocko
I just refaxed the order form that he had emailed us a way back and wrote amended on top and changed it to overnight.
quote:
Originally posted by tarmack
Okay...okay....all of the "shipping" stories and in transit damage stories have gotten my attention....your regular retired old fart cheapy that chose ground delivery.(I am in the 3rd or 4th week of April for estimated delivery)
I want to change that option to overnight....so HOW do I do that with email boxes full, and no longer having a copy of the fax pages available for a second re-send.
Is the phone call personally the best....or would it be possible for Robert to post on his VE website page....a special "order" area for upgraded shipping option?
Posted by: slocko
In my area, there only two guys. I met one of the guys in a stereo shop one day, and it turns out that Fedex contracts all ground service with guys who buy the routes. This guy had paid 60k for the Fedex route.
quote:
Originally posted by dandrewk
Ok, it's time to trash or praise shippers.
Fed Ex ground is (imho) the very worst there is out there. They are slow, sloppy, and their tracking system is a joke.
You may be aware that Fed Ex ground is not actually run by Fed Ex. It is actually 3 or 4 regional shippers that operate under license from Fed Ex. It may be that other areas of the country get better service than the west coast, but when I see something from Fed Ex ground, I can assume missed deliveries.
Fed Ex really needs to get on top of these guys, because they are giving the (otherwise outstanding) rest of the company a bad name.
Just ask the regular Fed Ex drivers what they think about the "green truck".
Posted by: dmaneyapanda
quote:
Originally posted by dandrewk
You may be aware that Fed Ex ground is not actually run by Fed Ex. It is actually 3 or 4 regional shippers that operate under license from Fed Ex.
This is complete baloney.
FedEx Ground is the former RPS. They were purchased by FedEx, and are in all ways now a corporate part of FedEx. Their headquarters are in Pittsburgh.
They do operate completely separately from FedEx Express, but that makes sense because they don't ship by plane. FYI, FedEx Home Delivery is a part of FedEx Ground.
FedEx Freight is a conglomerate of several (I believe 2, but am unsure) LTL carriers, and now operate as FedEx Freight East and West.
quote:
Just ask the regular Fed Ex drivers what they think about the "green truck".
Well, I won't make a pronouncement either way about the drivers, but this could just as well be because FX express drivers are unionized employees, while FX Ground drivers are independent contractors, and not unionized.
Most of the chatter in this thread which purports to explain how the different shipping companies work, and which is better than which, can generally be collected up and pitched over the shoulder like so many grains of salt. By and large it's completely erroneous. YMMV.
Posted by: Stuigi
Such a dissappointment. I awaken this morning with only 1 and a half pages to read.
Whats going on? Is everyone just sitting out there biting their nails.
Posted by: slocko
Can I take down my old E* Dish, and put up a squareshooter in it's place, using the same bracket?
Posted by: tarmack
Thanks...I just did the same...found the old Email in my Deleted folder of OE and printed out a new one....wrote in the AMENDED and faxed it off.
Hope it works.
quote:
Originally posted by slocko
I just refaxed the order form that he had emailed us a way back and wrote amended on top and changed it to overnight.
Posted by: andrewket
Has anyone heard from Robert in awhile? I've got a PM out to him that has gone unread since 3/22.
-Andrew
Posted by: Ohhbother
Guess you might as well add me to the list, too.
Time of Order: 3/2/2004 11:55:15 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13663
Amy
Posted by: Kevin L
quote:
Originally posted by slocko
Can I take down my old E* Dish, and put up a squareshooter in it's place, using the same bracket?
It's possible, since the SquareShooters mount and bracket is just like a sat dish with the three orientation adjustments. At the very least you could probably use the pole from the E* dish.
BTW, I set up the SquareShooter a couple of weeks ago in anticipation to the HD Tivo, and it works great. I'm 34.7 miles from the towers in Manhattan (according to antennaweb.org), and all the digital stations come in great with strong signals. The analog stations don't fare as well, but I didn't care. The SquareShooter is the best looking OTA antenna I've seen.
BTW, I bought it from Robert at VE along with the Winegard Pre-amp AP8700 which I installed at the antenna. I didn't use a diplexer. I ran a separate cable for the OTA direct to where the receiver will go.
Posted by: slocko
I was able to catch up with Robert through PM, and those are the instructions he gave me.
Like you said, let's hope it works!
quote:
Originally posted by tarmack
Thanks...I just did the same...found the old Email in my Deleted folder of OE and printed out a new one....wrote in the AMENDED and faxed it off.
Hope it works.
Posted by: JEbbesen
quote:
Originally posted by tarmack
I am in the 3rd or 4th week of April for estimated delivery
Dude, not to burst your bubble, if I'm at the end of April (Received an email from Robert yesterday informing me of that), then you're in May at the earliest.
Of course I’m hoping Doug is correct and that he was just being conservative.
Maybe that’s the reason he’s not telling anyone over 300 their place in line?????
Posted by: Darin
quote:
Originally posted by JEbbesen
Dude, not to burst your bubble, if I'm at the end of April (Received an email from Robert yesterday informing me of that), then you're in May at the earliest.
That doesn't really make any sense... I thought 200 were shipping 3-31, and 250 the following week. That would make you in the following week's shipment, and therefore receive the week of the 12th. Maybe I've missed something, or gotten something confused. Regardless, people who were calling in orders LONG after you were being told "end of April", so I think his info to you may be conservative. Or maybe things have changed. Or maybe I'm just all screwed up.
Posted by: tarmack
Well, all I was going by was this Email from Robert.....
=================================
Good ol order guy 13113 checking in!
Hey Mel,
Thanks for the very nice PM. Your order is scheduled to ship the 3rd or no later than the 4th week of April '04.
Regards,
-Robert
========================================
I suppose things can change....or maybe he just moved you down a bit. Grin.
Kidding............
quote:
Originally posted by JEbbesen
Dude, not to burst your bubble, if I'm at the end of April (Received an email from Robert yesterday informing me of that), then you're in May at the earliest.
Of course I’m hoping Doug is correct and that he was just being conservative.
Maybe that’s the reason he’s not telling anyone over 300 their place in line?????
Posted by: k2ue
quote:
Originally posted by Darin
That doesn't really make any sense... I thought 200 were shipping 3-31, and 250 the following week. That would make you in the following week's shipment, and therefore receive the week of the 12th. Maybe I've missed something, or gotten something confused. Regardless, people who were calling in orders LONG after you were being told "end of April", so I think his info to you may be conservative. Or maybe things have changed. Or maybe I'm just all screwed up.
I don't recall Robert every saying 250 each subsequent week after the conference call -- that was the conjecture of someone here the best I can tell from Robert saying there would be additional shipments each week, and Robert's earlier statement that he was hoping for 200+250+250, etc. I have been in his shoes for a product introduction and there are myriad pressures on the supply: if DirecTV (or TiVo) wants to have a Press Conference claiming they made Q1 delivery there will be enormous pressure to get units to major metro stores where reporters can see them at least being demoed; when big retailers see demand they will exert whatever influence their large(er) dollar volume will allow to demand what they will claim is "fair"; retailers who haven't even ordered the product yet will demand they get at least a few quick to demo -- all siphoning off equipment that should, if good faith meant anything, go to Robert. I am so glad to not have to face that any more, and hope that the folks here will trust that Robert as a small businessman will be fighting for his future and his customers without hissy fits by the folks here -- he has more to lose than any one of us.
I would be surprised if DirecTV projected more than 50K sales for the HD DirecTiVo in the first year, which is 1000 per week, and I'll be more (and pleasantly) surprised if Robert can get more than 10% of the total production rate in the face of all the other competing factors. We here may be helped if the rumors of a hiatus after initial production are true -- they would want to have a higher initial production rate to fill the pipeline and bridge the gap.
Posted by: slocko
HE FIGHTS FOR US!!!!!
Posted by: sonnyducks
I agree k2ue. If Best Buy says..."give us some"...DirecTV is going to give them some at Robert's expense (same goes for CC, Utimate, Tweeter, Good Guys, Fry's, ect).
These things will be on the store shelfs before half of the pre-orders get filled...but hey...your saving $100.
Posted by: Artemido
Should I be concerned that I did not receive an update msg from VE on 3/22 regarding my preorder? FWIW, here's my preorder information to be added to The List...
Time of Order: 1/29/2004 11:52:47 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13149
Posted by: dropper
Maybe. Maybe not. Actual preorders, especially those with deposits = stock turnover. Best Buy has so many products, that they won't probably care a whole lot about this one. It's high end for an STB and it would likely take up space for a while in a regular B&M.
A press conference would just need to be at whatever distribution faciltiy they are going out of. See the stacks of units getting loaded on trucks? Of course they will spin in which ever way, like units are expected to be in the "channel" by April 15th, or whatever.
Plus, if what I have read is true about past dealings, Robert had Series 2 before the big boys, and if he is still in good graces with DirecTV/Hughes, he should be able to do the same again.
Keith
Posted by: dropper
quote:
Originally posted by Artemido
Should I be concerned that I did not receive an update msg from VE on 3/22 regarding my preorder? FWIW, here's my preorder information to be added to The List...
Time of Order: 1/29/2004 11:52:47 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13149
Probably not. You are probably 500-600+ and they are probably concentrating on the first 250 or so.
I was originally told 3rd week of April, before any of the new updates on shipping (13094, Doug, you can update me) and you shouldn't be too far behind and I would think mine is now more like 2nd week.
Keith
Posted by: KCWolfPck
quote:
Originally posted by sonnyducks
These things will be on the store shelfs before half of the pre-orders get filled...but hey...your saving $100.
I agree, and that could pose a problem for Robert because if people are willing to upgrade their shipping at the cost of $70 just to get it one or 2 days sooner......they'll certainly cancel their order and buy at a B&M store and not save the $100 (provided of course that rumors are true regarding most reports of availability at B&M store on or around Arp. 15th).
If Robert has over 1000 pre-orders and only 600 +/- get shipped out by mid-April, I'm betting he is going to lose a lot of potential business.
Posted by: MichaelK
quote:
Originally posted by txfeinbergs
Pamper it? Actually, lets examine this process. Joe Schmo Fed Ex person sees it is overnight and goes "Whoa, this has to be in <insert place far away> by tomorrow". He drives like a maniac to get it to the airport (your tivo is getting smashed around in the back of the truck as he accelerates and brakes. He hands it off to the airport personnell. Have you seen how airports handle your baggage?? Your TIVO gets thrown across the airport sorting center, dropped a few times off the cargo loader, and finally makes it one the plane. At the other end, your TIVO is rushed to a local sorting center where it goes though a bunch of conveyor belts and big sorting machines (set on extra fast mode). Your TIVO will come shooting out of the machine like a bullet from a gun, into the hands of another maniac driver. Finally, it arrives at your house where the guy throws it on your front porch (assuming you signed a release waiver in advance, otherwise, if you aren't home, you have to wait another day for your TIVO to make the rounds again).
Just messing with you :)
i worked at a UPS sort facility one Holiday Season in college years ago. I worked primarily in the 'smalls' area. Basically i was the one guy who worked in the area to move around totes full of small packages for a bunch of women who would sort stuff into bins and bags. As the trucks get unloaded unto the conveyor blets. People pick off the big packages and put them on other belts based upon zip. THe smalls sit on the belt till the end and all get collected onto this big Giant chute the size of my first house. Anyhow lots of times the chute would back up onto the belt. I could clear the chute from below by pulling on things but the belt might wedge the packages in. So I would have to climb the chute and then kick all the packages loose from the belt. I saw los of stuff with my foot print on it. :D
Then one day they needed help unloading tractor trailers. So I got a truck full of IBM monitors. I got about half the truck unloaded and then there was a row that was completely wedged in cockeyed. So i fiddled as best i could- but could only budge the botton few rows. I didnt want to pull those since the top 2 rows might come tumbling down. So I went and got the supervisor. He says pull the bottom out and deal with it. So i pull out the bottom 3 rows. Still the top 2 rows are wedged in TIGHT levitation 8-10 feet off the bottom of the truck- no movement. Get thesupervisor again. He looks it over, tugs, pulls, nada. Goes away for a minute. Comes back with.....
A FIRE AX!
- starts hacking at the middle joint - well he got those boxes down all right!
THey send the 2 he totally mauled to the guy in charge of repacking the mess ups with a little sorry note, but the other 10 or so that just took the 10 foot tumble get picked up on go right on the belt like nothing happened.
THey preach all the time "hand to surface"- from your hand PLACE it on a surface. No Throwing, no slamming, etc. But the only thing that really gets respected is labled "radioactive". Glass, Fragile, dont drop, all that means NOTHING.
Posted by: dlott
I would agree but for one thing. I believe that D* is very aware of the preorders with Robert are firm early adopters. I think there is a concern that at a grand, either one or the other will happen. People who are not HD and Tivo fanatics will go who in the world would drop a grand on a HD receiver or they will sell out and because of the cutoff of production be forced to say yes we have one but you will have to wait to October to actually get one. Better to go with the firm sell and let the word of mouth build until you can drop the price and meet the demand.
Posted by: Darin
quote:
Originally posted by k2ue
I don't recall Robert every saying 250 each subsequent week after the conference call ...
To the best of my knowledge, the 3rd shipment and on are of unkown size (at least publicly). But I thought it was stated that the 1st shipment was 200, and the second was 250. I could go back & look, but someone who remembers will post anyway, I'm sure. :)
Posted by: dswallow
quote:
Originally posted by Darin
To the best of my knowledge, the 3rd shipment and on are of unkown size (at least publicly). But I thought it was stated that the 1st shipment was 200, and the second was 250. I could go back & look, but someone who remembers will post anyway, I'm sure. :)
Or scroll up and read my recap of his statement. ;)
Posted by: ebonovic
quote:
Originally posted by sonnyducks
I agree k2ue. If Best Buy says..."give us some"...DirecTV is going to give them some at Robert's expense (same goes for CC, Utimate, Tweeter, Good Guys, Fry's, ect).
I don't know about that....
If Robert can prove to DTV that he has Cash in hand, and these units will be out and subscribed vs sitting on a shelf at BestBuy warehouse..
Robert may get the edge.
Plus it is not in BB and CC's track record to carry $1000 price taged items outside TV's and computers. (My observations)
Posted by: KCWolfPck
quote:
Originally posted by ebonovic
I don't know about that....
If Robert can prove to DTV that he has Cash in hand, and these units will be out and subscribed vs sitting on a shelf at BestBuy warehouse..
Robert may get the edge.
Yes.....but for instance Tweeter's is pre-ording as well. There are over 70 pre-orders just for my region alone (N. VA).....who knows how many are pre-ordered nation-wide.
Between Tweeter's and Good-guys alone.....I'd guess there are 1000's of people that have the HD Tivo pre-ordered.
Posted by: Darin
quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Or scroll up and read my recap of his statement. ;)
After straining to scroll up that far, I see that my memory isn't quite as bad as I thought it was. :)
Posted by: k2ue
quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Or scroll up and read my recap of his statement. ;)
What Robert actual posted was:
"On March 31 '04 we are scheduled to receive 200 and ship 200 HR10-250's. Each succeeding week we will receive substantial inventory of HR10-250's until all orders are filled"
The only "250" in that statement was that part of the model number <grin>.
Posted by: MCodanti
quote:
Originally posted by k2ue
What Robert actual posted was:
"On March 31 '04 we are scheduled to receive 200 and ship 200 HR10-250's. Each succeeding week we will receive substantial inventory of HR10-250's until all orders are filled"
The only "250" in that statement was that part of the model number <grin>.
But I think Robert said that the second week of shipments would take them through about 450. Some simple maths tells us that that means he is expecting to get 250 the second week.
Posted by: KCWolfPck
quote:
Originally posted by k2ue
What Robert actual posted was:
"On March 31 '04 we are scheduled to receive 200 and ship 200 HR10-250's. Each succeeding week we will receive substantial inventory of HR10-250's until all orders are filled"
The only "250" in that statement was that part of the model number <grin>.
Yes....but then he posted later on that same page.....
"Second shipments are also shipping from CA and should cover up to the first 450 orders. Additional weeks will ship from several FOB points."
450-200=250.
Posted by: dswallow
3/22/2004 7:12 PM ET
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...587#post1824587
quote:
On March 31 '04 we are scheduled to receive 200 and ship 200 HR10-250's. Each succeeding week we will receive substantial inventory of HR10-250's until all orders are filled
3/22/2004 7:16 PM ET
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...604#post1824604
quote:
Shipping from CA
3/22/2004 7:22 PM ET
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...643#post1824643
quote:
Second shipments are also shipping from CA and should cover up to the first 450 orders. Additional weeks will ship from several FOB points.
Posted by: HDLouco
I might as well get on the listl Here is the data on my order.
Time of Order: 1/20/2004 1:24:27 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12901
Posted by: DrComputer
I'll add my order to the list too
Time of Order: 1/17/2004 11:35:43 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12700
_________________
Jason Fudenberg
Posted by: Stevie Dow
Time of Order: 3/4/2004, pm
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13708
Posted by: HDLouco
My Phase-3 DirecTV dish had all its 4 outputs used up by 3 receivers and my RCA F38310 HDTV set which includes a DirecTV tuner builtin. I solved the problem with a 5 X 8 multi switch online. I am new to this forum and not allowed to post the URL. Those who would like to know it can email me at mauro22@earthlink.net.
The 4 outputs of the dish are connected to the 4 sat inputs of the switch. Since I also have an OTA UHF antenna, I connected its cable to the VHS/UHF input of the switch also. This way, each of the 8 outputs of the switch carry the sat signals as well as the OTA-antenna signal. Diplexers can then be used for separation of DirecTV and OTA signals at each receiver location.
I know that many of you already know this. I only posted it for those who might need the information. By the way, the price of the switch was only $82.95, including S & H from Florida to California.
Thanks for the attention!
Mauro
Posted by: slocko
ebay bid is up to 406.99
Posted by: jrock
quote:
Originally posted by slocko
ebay bid is up to 406.99
Well I think he found a new Job. Selling stuff on Ebay :D
-Joe
Posted by: PJO1966
I know his ad clearly states that this is for the pre-order position only, but how many idiots think they're getting the HD-TiVo for $406.99?
Posted by: dswallow
quote:
Originally posted by PJO1966
I know his ad clearly states that this is for the pre-order position only, but how many idiots think they're getting the HD-TiVo for $406.99?
It does include his $100 deposit.
Posted by: joegolf68
I know his ad clearly states that this is for the pre-order position only, but how many idiots think they're getting the HD-TiVo for $406.99?
:) I hope the buyer is one of the DOA's! Now that WOULD be interesting!
;)
Posted by: slocko
when i moved to my town, i found out there is a ten year waiting list to get a parking space in the commuter train station.
I am now on year 5. Is it to early to sell my place in line? :)
Posted by: joegolf68
I know his ad clearly states that this is for the pre-order position only, but how many idiots think they're getting the HD-TiVo for $406.99?
If you look, the person bidding has zero feedback and is not bidding very smartly. By continuing to bid with over a day left, the price will increase. It is almost always best to wait until the end of an auction to show interest. So, asking how if there are idiots on Ebay...? Never mind.
Posted by: Cajonkev
So my life is changing.
It used to be I would get home, kiss my wife and kids and we would ask how each other's day went.
Now I get home, kiss my wife and kids, and my wife then asks sarcastically, "So what are they griping about today?" They of course being this thread...:)
Sometime later she will come into my office to kiss me again as she heads upstairs and look at the screen with that, "I can't believe he is addicted to a forum thread" expression.
And don't get me wrong, she loves all three of our TiVo's and has for over four years and is looking forward to the pending "arrival".
Yes, my life is changing. I just wish I could remember the name of our five year old. Oh well, she seems to respond to "sweety" just fine...
Posted by: ricaltman
quote:
Originally posted by Darin
Most of my friends just don't "get" any of this stuff. I'm the only one I know that has any interest in it.
Isn't that bizarre? Me too. It took just one look and I was convinced. I hate to watch anything in SD. If there is a movie coming on that I want to watch, if it is in SD, I just put it on my list of DVDs to rent. It's not HD, but it's better than the fuzzy crap I would be watching. I have a friend that just bought a brand new tv, never really considered HD, even after seeing my stuff and it wasn't cost, he's got plenty of money.
Posted by: Kevin L
quote:
Originally posted by ricaltman
Isn't that bizarre? Me too. It took just one look and I was convinced. I hate to watch anything in SD. If there is a movie coming on that I want to watch, if it is in SD, I just put it on my list of DVDs to rent. It's not HD, but it's better than the fuzzy crap I would be watching. I have a friend that just bought a brand new tv, never really considered HD, even after seeing my stuff and it wasn't cost, he's got plenty of money.
High Quality doesn't matter to a lot of people, whether audio or video, even if money isn't an object. Why else would Bose still be in business? Mediocre quality at a highly inflated price.
Posted by: ricaltman
quote:
Originally posted by SFWidescreen
Then one day I was showing a fellow geek my brand new Pronto remote and my wife walked in and proudly proclaimed "Isn't that thing great, it's the best $75 we've ever spent on TV stuff!"
My friends toes were bruised for days from my signal to him that he shouldn't comment on her pricing.
Honesty has been the best policy since that close call. Fortunately, she loves TiVo so much (you can have our TiVo as soon as you pry the remote from her cold, dead hands) that she knows the real price on this one and is excited about us getting it next week.
-Curtis
I haven't been able to come clean, not yet. I would never hear the end of it. It's a good thing the wives or SOs don't punch in to these forums, I'd be in more trouble than over the cost of electronic equipment.
Posted by: davidmin
If there is a shortage I wouldn't be surprised if these sell for more than $1300, so the $400+ bid doesn't seem out of line.
David
Posted by: Tulsa1
Where can I download the PDF sheets on the new HD Tivo?
Posted by: hongcho
A digital copy of the product information sheet (old, a bit, from Hughes) is in the sticky FAQ thread (the first one).
Hong.
Posted by: Tulsa1
Thank you Hong.
I saw that one a ways back but was hoping to find a copy a little more
ledgable.
Posted by: ken erickson
quote:
Originally posted by PJO1966
I know his ad clearly states that this is for the pre-order position only, but how many idiots think they're getting the HD-TiVo for $406.99?
You would be surprised at what people will bid for on eBay. I saw an auction for the leftover boxes for some expensive wood planes. Someone bid over $100 for a cardboard box (empty). I remember another auction where someone from England paid over $450 for the box and receipt of one of the early PS2 systems - a box and receipt. She complained but it was clearly stated that the person was selling the box and receipt. Nowhere was it stated that it included the PS2.
Posted by: Tom Harms
Time of Order: 1/18/2003 @ 3:12.21 P.M.
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12737
Order Number ~ 265
Posted by: Darin
quote:
Originally posted by KML
High Quality doesn't matter to a lot of people, whether audio or video, even if money isn't an object.
I think that's true to some extent. When I made the comment earlier about my friends, I don't think it's that they can't tell the difference... (they do make comment's about Darin's "nice" TV with the pretty picture and good sound), but when you start talking about HD or Dolby Digital, they just kinda glaze over. It's not something they want to spend the time understanding, and also not something they want to spend a lot of money on. I really don't watch that much TV myself, so why I get so involved in the hardware for it is a mystery even to me.
Posted by: Kevin L
Darin, when I got my wife a new car two years ago, all that really mattered to her was that it had a CD player. She didn't care about the sound system itself, as long as it had the CD. So I didn't bother getting the upgrade for the stereo. Every time I drive in her car, though, it kills me to listen to the mediocre sound. But, it has a CD, so she's happy. I trust this is the case with a lot of people. They might know what they're missing, they just don't care.
I watch a fair amount of TV. Since PVRs, though, I watch a lot more. The great thing, as all of us here know, it doesn't take any more time to watch the additional TV. :)
Posted by: dswallow
quote:
Originally posted by Darin
I really don't watch that much TV myself, so why I get so involved in the hardware for it is a mystery even to me.
Many things in life are better in higher quality than in higher quantity. Though sometimes people make up for low quality by higher quantity.
Posted by: dandrewk
quote:
Originally posted by dmaneyapanda
This is complete baloney.
FedEx Ground is the former RPS. They were purchased by FedEx, and are in all ways now a corporate part of FedEx. Their headquarters are in Pittsburgh.
They do operate completely separately from FedEx Express, but that makes sense because they don't ship by plane. FYI, FedEx Home Delivery is a part of FedEx Ground.
FedEx Freight is a conglomerate of several (I believe 2, but am unsure) LTL carriers, and now operate as FedEx Freight East and West.
Well, I won't make a pronouncement either way about the drivers, but this could just as well be because FX express drivers are unionized employees, while FX Ground drivers are independent contractors, and not unionized.
Most of the chatter in this thread which purports to explain how the different shipping companies work, and which is better than which, can generally be collected up and pitched over the shoulder like so many grains of salt. By and large it's completely erroneous. YMMV.
I think there are better ways to disagree without being pompous and arrogant...
Your own post contradicts itself. You mention that Fed Ex ground is the former RPS. Well, RPS was ITSELF made up of several regional contractors, some only local and some covering several states.
The upshot is that Fed Ex is the titular corporate head of Fed Ex Ground, but the quality of service found in their air service is soarly missing in their ground service.
Posted by: drewba
quote:
Originally posted by Darin
I really don't watch that much TV myself, so why I get so involved in the hardware for it is a mystery even to me.
I'm in the exact same boat! The only show that I watch on a regular basis is 24 which isn't even in HD. My wife will probably watch a few of her shows in HD now as well, but she's watching mostly reality shows right now. I am mostly getting it to timeshift HD sports and because I'm a sucker for cool electronic gadgets.
Posted by: JEbbesen
quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Many things in life are better in higher quality than in higher quantity. Though sometimes people make up for low quality by higher quantity.
What would you rather have, 1 night of the best sex ever or 10 nights of so so sex?
Posted by: dswallow
quote:
Originally posted by dandrewk
I think there are better ways to disagree without being pompous and arrogant...
Your own post contradicts itself. You mention that Fed Ex ground is the former RPS. Well, RPS was ITSELF made up of several regional contractors, some only local and some covering several states.
The upshot is that Fed Ex is the titular corporate head of Fed Ex Ground, but the quality of service found in their air service is soarly missing in their ground service.
I prefer FedEx Ground over UPS. It's a matter of principle. FedEx Ground seems to strive to service the people who are receiving the package by accommodating their schedule and actually adhering to requests like "please deliver between 6pm and 7pm". UPS strives to give their employees time off and not care too much about how long you wait for your delivery or what hoops you have to jump through to actually take delivery of your shipment.
I know nothing's perfect, but I was very happy to see FedEx take over RPS and begin trying to make some inroads against UPS in ground delivery services. THey may have some distance to go to get the level and quality of service consistent, but they seem willing to try.
Posted by: dswallow
quote:
Originally posted by JEbbesen
What would you rather have, 1 night of the best sex ever or 10 nights of so so sex?
When I was around 18, that would have been easy to answer: 10 nights of so-so sex. Now that I'm 41, it's still easy to answer, but the answer is different.
Posted by: dandrewk
quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
I prefer FedEx Ground over UPS. It's a matter of principle. FedEx Ground seems to strive to service the people who are receiving the package by accommodating their schedule and actually adhering to requests like "please deliver between 6pm and 7pm". UPS strives to give their employees time off and not care too much about how long you wait for your delivery or what hoops you have to jump through to actually take delivery of your shipment.
I know nothing's perfect, but I was very happy to see FedEx take over RPS and begin trying to make some inroads against UPS in ground delivery services. THey may have some distance to go to get the level and quality of service consistent, but they seem willing to try.
Agree Doug. Having a Saturday delivery for ground service is a great feature.
I can only hope that Fed Ex can improve the quality of the ground service. It ain't there yet. Maybe if they send Tom Hanks to whip them into shape? :D
Posted by: dr_mal
quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
sometimes people make up for low quality by higher quantity.
quote:
dswallow
Posts: +17 HH
Registered: Dec 2000
Location: Long Branch, NJ, USA
Posts: 8082
:p
Posted by: JEbbesen
quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
When I was around 18, that would have been easy to answer: 10 nights of so-so sex. Now that I'm 41, it's still easy to answer, but the answer is different.
I think the answer is fairly evident for us married guys. ;)
Posted by: sotapoppy
quote:
Originally posted by JEbbesen
What would you rather have, 1 night of the best sex ever or 10 nights of so so sex?
My answer might change on the 2nd night :D
Posted by: dswallow
quote:
Originally posted by dr_mal
:p
Exactly.
If I believed in quantity over quality, I'd be on top of jsmeeker by now.
:p
Posted by: joegolf68
Fed-Ex versus UPS
this is purely anecdotal, but I shop a lot online and get deliveries to my home quite a bit. Until about six months ago or so, Fed-Ex was much more reliable in getting my delivers to me when I expected it, via air mail service. They arrived always in the mornings while UPS arrived sometimes at 6 or later in the evening.
Over the past few months, I have had multiple problems with my delivers (ground) from Fed-Ex. Honestly, they have been terrible. One package which I was tracking online, kept saying it was on the truck. I called Fed-ex after three days of no shows and they said they would come by to talk to me. Talk to me? I asked where is my package and that is all the answer I could get. Sometime the next day, they actually delivered the package without ringing my doorbell or anything. Guess they didn't really want to talk!
As for next day, second day, etc., I have had great luck with both Fed-Ex and UPS. If I were to select a ground shipping method right now, I would choose UPS, but who knows, it could be a local thing or something.
The observation of union versus non-union, I would think that a non-union group would provide better customer service and a unionized company would provide better employee service. Union, in general, are a necessary evil which do much good, however, they do tend to protect the incompetent, lazy, and others who really belong behind a window at the department of motor vehicles. fortunately, those types of employees are in the small minority and most unionized employees are excellent hard working people. At least that has been my small personal observation in thirty years of dealing with unions, union employees, non-union companies and non-union employees.
Posted by: Cajonkev
quote:
Originally posted by dr_mal
:p
Completely ROFLMAO!
Very witty indeed.
:D
Posted by: JEbbesen
quote:
Originally posted by sotapoppy
My answer might change on the 2nd night :D
Maybe I should have added with another person. :D
Posted by: midas
And see, I'm still so mad at UPS that if I ever have the choice, I always choose Fed-Ex.
I sat here one Friday waiting for a package that it said was on the truck. Usually UPS is here around noon, give or take an hour. But there have been times it's been late afternoon. So I watched the tracking all day and at 6:50PM an entry shows that says they tried to ring the bell but nobody was home. Obviously pure BS. I called UPS to complain and they refused to do anything. No promised reprimand for the driver that was obvously just in a hurry to get his weekend started. No budging on my request to have a Saturday delivery.
Nope, I had to wait till Monday. And guess what? Of course, the driver just left the package, no signature required. So why did he supposedly ring the bell on Friday? Because he was a lying sack of you-know-what.
Posted by: JEbbesen
quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Exactly.
If I believed in quantity over quality, I'd be on top of jsmeeker by now.
:p
Does that answer the question: top vs. bottom?
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