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Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by Bryan Lyle
Sorry, just had to be post 1000... Nothing to read here... Please move on :)

You were late.

Posted by: the-sloth

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Don't panic. I just spoke to him in the last hour. They are having some big virus issues right now which can't be helping his ability to accomplish sending out emails to people. Give him time. You're really not going to suffer at all waiting a day or two for those forms to get to you.

However, if you feel it's really truly urgent, PM me your email address, and I can forward a copy of what I got. There's nothing in it order-specfic, just on one form you'll be filling in your order number.

still having virus problems? maybe i could drive up there and get this virus thing under control for them... of course i would expect to be paid one HD DTivo unit in return for my services :D

in all seriuosness, they must have really gotten hit hard. i can't speak from experience because i've never infected myself with a virus, but we have lots of dumb users who are click happy. an hour or so later, all done... they must have some seriuos issues going on there.

no worries on sending me the form... at least i have something to joke about when i call them as it is. :D

Posted by: SteveWinNJ

quote:
Originally posted by Kamakzie
dswallow, so only $2899? Hot damn what a deal! :p

A variation on the old law of economics....Supply and Stupidity? ;)

Better yet: Supply and Dementia!

Posted by: dr_mal

quote:
Originally posted by Marco
Hoping for Stanley Cup Finals in HD...

Grrr...

<insert rant about Denver ABC affiliate's refusal to provide an HD signal here>

Posted by: Bryan Lyle

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
You were late.

Figures :)

Posted by: chilidip_tivo

Nice to see that this thread has taken on a different tone.

1/16/2004 6:26:48 PM
Order ID: 1257x

Posted by: muoldaar

just so that the list can be complete, here's my info:

Time of Order: 1/19/2004 3:37:49 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 127XX

Posted by: the-sloth

quote:
Originally posted by Marco
Time of Order: 1/20/2004 10:12:05 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12922

Hoping for Stanley Cup Finals in HD...

so will the cup finals be on ESPN or ABC?

i hope ESPN.. cause i know i won't be able to get ABC with an antenna.

Posted by: tarmack

quote:
Originally posted by Scott R. Scherr
Okay, I ordered on 1/31/04. #13199.

Scott R. Scherr

Geesh !

FINALLY someone who ordered after I did. Grin.

Tarmack

Posted by: dr_mal

quote:
Originally posted by the-sloth
so will the cup finals be on ESPN or ABC?

i hope ESPN.. cause i know i won't be able to get ABC with an antenna.

If it works the same as in the past...the playoffs kind of get jumbled between ABC and ESPN. The final round is all on ABC, though. No help for those of us with pathetic excuses for real TV stations masquerading as ABC affiliates.

Posted by: rogo

For $2899, I will come to your house and install your HD Tivo.

Note my position on the list.... :) :) :)

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by rogo
For $2899, I will come to your house and install your HD Tivo.

Note my position on the list.... :) :) :)

You may be (an unconfirmed) #2, but it's still quite possible I (and others) will receive the unit before you do. :p

So there.

Posted by: JLWINE

quote:
Originally posted by chilidip_tivo
Nice to see that this thread has taken on a different tone.

1/16/2004 6:26:48 PM
Order ID: 1257x

Whats that remark suppose to mean! It is comments like that--that really tick me off!

Oh, just kidding! :D :D :D

Posted by: JohnTivo

How are the positions being confirmed? Has Robert already sent out confirmations to those receiving the first ones he gets?

Posted by: Mr Pieces

I was thinking about pre-ordering one but after looking at this thread it looks like I might not get delivery until sometime in 2009.

Posted by: PJO1966

He started to but was probably distracted by the viruses that were apparently coming from his computer. Judging by the info listed, my number is around 50. I faxed my paperwork on Sunday, but I have not yet received confirmation of my exact number from Robert. I have every confidence that he is busting his butt to give us all the info we need.

Posted by: dropper

Looks like 3rd week of April for me, per PM from Robert.

Keith

Posted by: Mr Pieces

when did you order to get 3rd week in april?

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Pieces
I was thinking about pre-ordering one but after looking at this thread it looks like I might not get delivery until sometime in 2009.

While you certainly wouldn't get one out of his first shipment, I'd expect most of these orders will be filled by the end of April, if not a bit earlier.

I wouldn't hold out a lot of hope of finding any elsewhere just sitting on a shelf until much later, anyway.

Remember that as far as we know it's really just been Value Electronics & Good Guys taking preorders for any amount of time; most others seem to just be waiting for general availability to make them available to buyers -- if they've made any plans at all -- and those places are going to be much further down the priority list from the manufacturer since they won't have placed their orders earlier than the companies that have offered preorders to buyers. And I suspect most outlets haven't even thought of ordering these things yet for resale, since they're not yet available for shipment.

Robert's offer of refunding your deposit and canceling your order if you can get the unit elsewhere earlier still stands, too, so waiting isn't going to do anything to help you get one any sooner -- it'll only prolong the wait.

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Pieces
when did you order to get 3rd week in april?

Consulting my handy-dandy chart at http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...781#post1777781 shows 1/26/2004 4:16:46 PM. :)

Posted by: CamDLux

and I waited after seeing the offer!

Time of Order: 1/16/2004 11:46:12 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1249X

Posted by: tomr

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Don't panic. I just spoke to him in the last hour. They are having some big virus issues right now which can't be helping his ability to accomplish sending out emails to people. Give him time.

I admit it. I sent the virus. It was supposed to re-arrange the order numbers to put mine at numero uno. :D :D :D

Seriously, as much as it can be in this thread, It looks like I'm number 51. That is not confirmed, as I have not receive an email from Robert.

Posted by: HDTivo4prez

Doug,

Add me to the list

Time of Order: 1/16/2004 9:37:45 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1259X

Posted by: acourvil

You guys are having so much fun, I'll play, too.

Time of Order: 1/18/2004 7:58:05 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1275x

I think that puts me just over 200 . . . .

Posted by: harambur

i hope the first person that finds a bug puts a link in here to the new thread they will create.

Posted by: aaronwt

Time of Order: 1/22/2004 9:22:00 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 129XX

Posted by: Kamakzie

Hmmm no one has posted in this forum for an hour, consider this a test.

Posted by: dlott

Time of order: 1/16/2004 9:21:04 PM
Order ID: 1259x

Posted by: falstaffpac

First time poster, but I've lurked here for awhile. Thought I would join the fun.

Time of Order: 1/19/2004 5:22:45 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12844

Hey, I followed this forum daily for 3 months. The one day I go out of town, the HDTIVO preorder is announced! Hence, 3 days late.

And BTW, thanks Robert for all your time you've invested in this. I think the silent majority appreciate it.

Off to watch some non-HDTV.

Falstaffpac

Posted by: K-bueno

OK, one more:

Time of Order: 1/16/2004 7:06:30 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 125XX

This thread is definitely more interesting now!

Posted by: auee

Go ahead and add me to the list......

Time of Order: 1/29/2004 1:52:34 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 131XX

although it isn't as exciting since I'm may be waiting awhile to get mine.

Posted by: jfischer

quote:
Originally posted by dr_mal
Grrr...

<insert rant about Denver ABC affiliate's refusal to provide an HD signal here>

I get ABC just fine in Denver in HDTV. Yes, the signal is weak, but it's there. I'm at C470 and Bowles, not exactly in close proximity to downtown Denver, but I get a decent signal with a little outdoor UHF antenna.

I've been enjoying MNF and other HDTV programming for years on ABC already! :)

Posted by: jrock

I might as well jump on the band wagon as well.

Time of Order: 1/17/2004 8:26:02 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12691

-Joe

Posted by: cheridave

Since it appears that Robert is having email troubles (virus or whatever) and based on Doug's Great Matrix and where I stand in the ranking....

I hereby assign myself #206.

I thank thats pretty close.

Dave

Posted by: Bruce N

Me too!

Time of Order: 1/19/2004 1:03:06 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1281X

Posted by: drewba

Time of Order: 1/16/2004 10:50:28 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1260X

Posted by: patyoung

I guess I am a late comer... Oh well, what are you going to do. Can't wait to get it:

Time of Order: 2/21/2004 12:32:05 AM
Order ID: 13545

I have been waiting for this for a while, since I didn't want to bother with a Tivo that wouldn't let me record the local channels since I can't get them from DTV.

Posted by: Lee Bombard

# 126XX
Time of order: 4:14:03
Date: 1/17/2004

Posted by: dr_mal

quote:
Originally posted by jfischer
I get ABC just fine in Denver in HDTV. Yes, the signal is weak, but it's there. I'm at C470 and Bowles, not exactly in close proximity to downtown Denver, but I get a decent signal with a little outdoor UHF antenna.

I've been enjoying MNF and other HDTV programming for years on ABC already! :)

[way off topic]
Yeah, I'm on the north side of downtown. The signal is blocked by, well, downtown. You must be one of the "lucky 13" who can actually get their pathetic little signal. So can I come over for the Stanley Cup Finals? :D
[/way off topic]

Posted by: pauldavis

Time of Order: 1/21/2004 12:35:17 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1292x

Not sure, I think this means next fall for my HD DirecTiVo.

Posted by: bubbadoc

All right, my turn...

#1301X
Date: 1/23/04
Time: 12:28 am

Thanks to Doug and Robert!!

Posted by: dswallow

Order listing moved, for convenience, to http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...052#post1797052

Posted by: rsxruffryder

Time of Order: 2/8/2004 12:58:06 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1334X

Posted by: Lovgren

Time of Order: 1/21/2004 12:32:15 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1292x

Posted by: synic

#1296*
Date: 1/22/04
Time: 00:28 am

Posted by: smallz

I pre ordered a few hours after it was announced so I'm pretty sure I'm in the top 100. Unfortunately I no longer have the email with my order number. My CC has been charged the $100 though. I am trying to cancel my order so all of you will be bumped up a spot. I have emailed valued but haven't received a response back yet. Anybody know of another way I can get this cancelled? Thanks

Posted by: SteveWinNJ

I would suggest calling. Here is the toll free number: 800-789-5050

Posted by: MeanGreen09

Guess I'll play, too...

Time of Order: 1/20/2004 01:03:18 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1290X

Posted by: Chew

Time of Order: 1/30/2004 3:23:06 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 131XX

Posted by: Lee L

OK, one more for the list

Time of Order 1/18/2004 7:40 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1275x

Posted by: bmccrea

for the record...

Time of Order: 1/17/2004 11:05:44 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1263*

Posted by: k2ue

And my order:

Time of Order: 1/29/2004 10:13:10 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1314x

Posted by: bertschb

Don't want to be left out...

Time of Order: 1/26/2004 11:32:37 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1310X

Posted by: Kevin L

Here's my info:

Time of Order: 1/18/2004 7:55:20 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1275x

Thanks for the compilation, Doug!

Posted by: TScottTX

Time of Order: 1/17/2004 12:42:08 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12654

Posted by: Darin

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Is he single? employed? have a car? cute? doesn't use drugs? huge trust fund not necessary but a plus.

And if not, my list is FAR less restrictive.

FWIW, I ordered on 2-14, so I fit somewhere between the-sloth and bcushman. But I've not been home enough to look at my order#.

Posted by: fleasure

Time of Order: 1/22/2004 1:06:58 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12983

Posted by: RxMan

Any idea when a person 'might' receive the HD-Tivo if they pre-ordered today?

Just curious. :)

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by smallz
I pre ordered a few hours after it was announced so I'm pretty sure I'm in the top 100. Unfortunately I no longer have the email with my order number. My CC has been charged the $100 though. I am trying to cancel my order so all of you will be bumped up a spot. I have emailed valued but haven't received a response back yet. Anybody know of another way I can get this cancelled? Thanks

I would suggest selling your position on the list to someone. ;)

Posted by: HofstraJet

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
I would suggest selling your position on the list to someone. ;)

Can you imagine the ebay listing?

FOR SALE: Spot #12 on the VE list - yours for the low low price of $x!

Now that's funny!

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by RxMan
Any idea when a person 'might' receive the HD-Tivo if they pre-ordered today?

Just curious. :)

Why don't you contact user 'smallz' who wants to cancel his order and buy his position on the list from him. ;) Maybe he'll be really nice about it since otherwise he's going to lose his deposit, so he might not even charge you money for the privilege. Though if he does, maybe offering to make a charitable donation would be sufficient...

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by Darin
And if not, my list is FAR less restrictive.

He's closer to you. But I have dibs if he doesn't mind relocating. Of course, your gadget-geek factor is probably higher, so you'd probably meet my list at least as well as he does, but again, there's that relocating thing. ;)

Relocating isn't so bad, and has some plusses for you, too. I'm beachfront here. Close to 4 major airports and one not-so-major one, too. :D

Posted by: OldGamingFart

I've noticed no one has added their "line Number" recently. I know Robert was having a virus problem that may have slowed down emails somewhat, but I wouldn't think it would knock him out for two days.

Posted by: Darin

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Relocating isn't so bad, and has some plusses for you, too.

And you ARE much higher on the list. I could cancel my order, which would almost cover the relocating expenses. ;)

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by Darin
And you ARE much higher on the list. I could cancel my order, which would almost cover the relocating expenses. ;)

Relocation expenses are a negotiable item. No need to consider canceling your order.

Posted by: PJO1966

quote:
Originally posted by OldGamingFart
I've noticed no one has added their "line Number" recently. I know Robert was having a virus problem that may have slowed down emails somewhat, but I wouldn't think it would knock him out for two days.

I've noticed that as well. I faxed my paperwork on Sunday and I am one of the top 50 or so, but I have not heard back. I'm not concerned... impatient, but not concerned.

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by OldGamingFart
I've noticed no one has added their "line Number" recently. I know Robert was having a virus problem that may have slowed down emails somewhat, but I wouldn't think it would knock him out for two days.

When I talked to Robert yesterday he mentioned an IT team was taking everything apart in the office and at his home and I presume what he meant by that is they were going computer-to-computer updating everything, scanning, dealing with viruses found, and locking everything down such that once they did everything, they'd reconnect the network. So I'm sure he's muddling through as best he can right now and all should be back to normal soon.

There's still about 2 or 3 weeks before the first shipment of manufactured units would come out of the factory and be on their way to him, so absolutely no delay on Robert's part right now could make any difference to anyone waiting for a unit -- except to just give us more to twiddle our thumbs about here.

Posted by: PJO1966

... and talk about relocating for love (of TiVo) ;)

Posted by: mercurial

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Relocation expenses are a negotiable item. No need to consider canceling your order.

:up: Actually, you could probably auction the thing off on eBay and cover a fair share of the relocation expenses....

Posted by: turls

Preorders make no difference. Just talk to TV Authority if you think this makes a hill of beans of difference.

A bunch of us had pre-orders for Sammy DLP's. At least 200 at 3 grand a piece (the FULL PRICE paid ahead of time). We got bumped at the drop of a hat for the big guys. I think Tweeter was the manufacturer that bumped ahead of us in line.

If these things really are in short supply, I hope they aren't for VE's sake, don't plan on the deposit making any difference.

(hoping the SN/R of this thread gets better so I can just follow the progress on availability for these things).

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Remember that as far as we know it's really just been Value Electronics & Good Guys taking preorders for any amount of time; most others seem to just be waiting for general availability to make them available to buyers -- if they've made any plans at all -- and those places are going to be much further down the priority list from the manufacturer since they won't have placed their orders earlier than the companies that have offered preorders to buyers. And I suspect most outlets haven't even thought of ordering these things yet for resale, since they're not yet available for shipment.

Posted by: Britinvirg

Apologies if this is 'off topic' but as some of you may know Tweeters are also taking pre-orders at full MSRP ($999). The real news is that their quoted delivery date is no longer Mid June. They are now quoting April 15th. I'm on the list!

Posted by: OldGamingFart

quote:
Originally posted by turls
If these things really are in short supply, I hope they aren't for VE's sake, don't plan on the deposit making any difference.

Historically no Tivo product was met with huge mass-market appeal. I expect the same for this product. I doubt Tweeters, or Best Buy put in a huge pre-order. Hopefully VE has a relationship with DirecTV/Hughes/whomever that he won't get bumped.

I agree with you though, DirecTV would appease their larger customers in a heartbeat if at all possible.

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by turls
Preorders make no difference. Just talk to TV Authority if you think this makes a hill of beans of difference.

I have trust in the path DirecTV HD DVR's are travelling through the supply chain from the manufacturing plant to Value Electronics.

But, yes, I know the proof will certainly be in seeing them actually shipped out to us, and at our doorstep.

The jist of my posting there was that by all accounts Value Electronics is one of the very first to have placed a large order for these units, and Robert's offer to us provides an easy out if you actually were able to get it elsewhere sooner. So the worst that could happen is you end up canceling your order with VE, getting your money back, and taking delivery of it from someone else; and the best that can happen is you get it earlier for for a lesser price than it's available anywhere else.

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by Britinvirg
Apologies if this is 'off topic' but as some of you may know Tweeters are also taking pre-orders at full MSRP ($999). The real news is that their quoted delivery date is no longer Mid June. They are now quoting April 15th. I'm on the list!

So that makes Value Electronics, Good Guys (the retail store, not online) and Tweeters that are taking pre-orders now; anyone know of anyone else?

Posted by: dr_mal

Where have I heard all these conjectures before...oh that's right -- when the HDVR2 came out. Everybody mocked VE for claiming that they had HDVR2s ready to ship when "big" customers like Tweeter, GG, BB, etc didn't even have them in their computer. Turns out VE was telling the truth. Imagine that.

I'm confident I'll be one of the first 100 people to get my hands on a HR-DVR-HDDVR-DTV-10-250-b (or whatever it's being called this week).

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by dr_mal
Where have I heard all these conjectures before...oh that's right -- when the HDVR2 came out. Everybody mocked VE for claiming that they had HDVR2s ready to ship when "big" customers like Tweeter, GG, BB, etc didn't even have them in their computer. Turns out VE was telling the truth. Imagine that.

I'm confident I'll be one of the first 100 people to get my hands on a HR-DVR-HDDVR-DTV-10-250-b (or whatever it's being called this week).

Since I had a SAT-T60, I paid almost no attention to the HDVR2 escapades... but that's a good point to remember. :)

HR10-250 is the latest incarnation of the model number. At least this model number scheme seems indicative of providing some paths in the future for new models.

Posted by: dr_mal

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Since I had a SAT-T60, I paid almost no attention to the HDVR2 escapades... but that's a good point to remember. :)

HR10-250 is the latest incarnation of the model number. At least this model number scheme seems indicative of providing some paths in the future for new models.

HDDVR250 made a lot of sense: HighDef DigitalVideoRecorder 250GB.
I don't get what HR stands for. Hughes Recorder? And what's the 10 all about? Revision 1.0 maybe?

Posted by: Alexander

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
When I talked to Robert yesterday he mentioned an IT team was taking everything apart in the office and at his home and I presume what he meant by that is they were going computer-to-computer updating everything, scanning, dealing with viruses found, and locking everything down such that once they did everything, they'd reconnect the network. So I'm sure he's muddling through as best he can right now and all should be back to normal soon.

Maybe they should spend that time installing some G5's instead. ;)

Seems to be what FedEx is doing:
http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004...303031644.shtml

Posted by: turls

No conjecture about it--if push comes to shove--and maybe it won't--the only way to really be on the manufacturers short list (at least on a "small" pre-order) is for it to be paid IN FULL with the MANUFACTURER. That's the facts.

Maybe the last model was under the radar of the "big guys", maybe this one is--maybe it isn't.

I can tell you it might have been under their radar when I ordered the TV, but by the time it was ready to ship--it wasn't under anybody's radar.

I agree it isn't a big deal--it is a small deposit--but the basic point is a pre-order makes no difference.

quote:
Originally posted by dr_mal
Where have I heard all these conjectures before...oh that's right -- when the HDVR2 came out. Everybody mocked VE for claiming that they had HDVR2s ready to ship when "big" customers like Tweeter, GG, BB, etc didn't even have them in their computer. Turns out VE was telling the truth. Imagine that.

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by dr_mal
HDDVR250 made a lot of sense: HighDef DigitalVideoRecorder 250GB.
I don't get what HR stands for. Hughes Recorder? And what's the 10 all about? Revision 1.0 maybe?

I was kind of assuming a revision numbering scheme for the "10". "HR" might be "High-definition Recorder". 250's obviously recording capacity in GB or GiB, whichever makes it sound bigger than reality.

HD-DVR250 was fine and perhaps clearer with HD for High-Definition, but left no easy place for revision indicators, except by adding something later, which would lead to some confusion as people would be accustomed to the prefix part of the new model (say HD-DVR250-2) and tend to not mention the -2.

No real need to put "DirecTV"/DTV in there considering (a) it's only DirecTV that'll be selling them soon, and (b) by some accounts the unit technologically could be updated only with software and be Echostar/DVB-compatible.

Damn, it's nice to have a break from updating that chart and to bable on about something else that's pointless. ;)

Posted by: Kamakzie

Ewwww Macs :)

Posted by: harambur

Yummmmmmmm Big Macs :)

Posted by: Alexander

Ewwww Big Macs

Yummmmmm Double-Doubles. :D

Posted by: Jasper

Time of Order: 1/17/2004 12:40:36 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12619

Posted by: bmel

Time of Order: 1/16/2004 2:54:35 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID:

Posted by: SteveHoltam

V.E. may have had the HDVR2's first, but they didnt have the best price, thanks to one manager at Circuit City and hundreds of us scamming them!

That was so bad, and so good.

Now we just need a Good Guys error! (It is their turn!)

Steve

Posted by: Kamakzie

Errors? What happened CC and what is happening at GG?

quote:
Originally posted by SteveHoltam
V.E. may have had the HDVR2's first, but they didnt have the best price, thanks to one manager at Circuit City and hundreds of us scamming them!

That was so bad, and so good.

Now we just need a Good Guys error! (It is their turn!)

Steve

Posted by: Stuigi

...it's always something!

Here I was awaiting my position on the list after sending back my forms and Robert gets a virus!

There is no justice.

BUT

Thanks to Doug, I at least have an idea where I stand.

Bottom line though, as in an old song, 'she'll be comin'round the mountain when she comes, my tune is:

I'll be gettin' my new Tivo when I get it!

Posted by: Darin

quote:
Originally posted by Kamakzie
Errors? What happened CC ...

That was a rather dark stain on TivoCommunity's integrity. We shouldn't even talk about it. A deplorable scam committed by some here to scam a TiVo for less than the "correct" selling amount.

Oh, and if any of you can score an HD-TiVo for less than $900, can you PM me a scan of the receipt?

Posted by: the-sloth

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
So that makes Value Electronics, Good Guys (the retail store, not online) and Tweeters that are taking pre-orders now; anyone know of anyone else?

Orbit Satellite is doing a waiting list...

http://dtv.orbitsat.com/product.asp?PID=HD-DVR250

Posted by: OldGamingFart

quote:
Originally posted by the-sloth
Orbit Satellite is doing a waiting list...

http://dtv.orbitsat.com/product.asp?PID=HD-DVR250

Anybody that promotes the retail price at $200.00 above the REAL retail price wouldn't get my business. EVER.

Posted by: Ivan1670

Time of order: January 17th 3:47pm
Type: E-Mail
Order# 1267x

Posted by: Kamakzie

Agreed this sounds like some sleazy tactic to make it look like you are getting a great deal.

quote:
Originally posted by OldGamingFart
Anybody that promotes the retail price at $200.00 above the REAL retail price wouldn't get my business. EVER.

Posted by: JohnA

Orbit Satellite = Crooks!

Posted by: harambur

if somethign goes wrong with your order, orbitsat is the last company you want to be dealing with.

it took weeks for them to sort out an error with the multiswitch i needed. i almost had to get an attorney involved.

Posted by: Alexander

Ok, so here's a question: If I'm in an accident, and I go to get my car repaired, they want $xx to write up an estimate. If I then agree to do the repairs, do they still charge me for the estimate?

Posted by: Stuigi

quote:
Originally posted by Alexander
Ok, so here's a question: If I'm in an accident, and I go to get my car repaired, they want $xx to write up an estimate. If I then agree to do the repairs, do they still charge me for the estimate?

...what does that have to do with the price of an hdtivo in my possession

Posted by: Darin

And more importantly... you have an hdtivo in your possession?

Posted by: the-sloth

quote:
Originally posted by OldGamingFart
Anybody that promotes the retail price at $200.00 above the REAL retail price wouldn't get my business. EVER.

ya.... i'm not saying i would buy from them.. they just came up when i did a google search a month or so ago.

i can't get past their g00gly loooking website... ugh.

Posted by: lew

Don't count on using orbitsats lowest price policy. They exclude limited quantities, waiting list and back ordered product status.

Further Orbitsat must list the item in stock in their web site.

HDTV Tivo are likely to be in that category for at least the first month or so. Orbitsat can just list the item as out of stock in their web site.

Posted by: Alexander

Aw, c'mon...noone? This thread is my source for real-time answers.

Posted by: sherlocc

Doug:

Order # 12585
Order Type: Email
Time of Order: 1/16/2004 7:31:07 PM

Thanks for doing this.

Based on your data, I estimate that I my order position is somewhere around 110.

I have been a satellite user since 1984, DirecTV since 1996 or 1997, and TIVO since July 2001. I wouldn't go HDTV without TIVO!

Currently sitting here with a new Sony 61 inch Plasma KDE61XBR950 HDTV (first on the west coast, I believe) and DirecTV will be my only access to HDTV.

Can't wait!

Thanks again.

Jack

Posted by: Hootydog

Order # 13224, 2/1/04 6:34PM

Posted by: buzzword

And then there's this gem further on down the page:

* Internet Orders Only. Limited time offer for new residential subscribers who purchase a DIRECTV� System from DigitalSat.com. Requires activation within 30 days of order. If you are a current DIRECTV subscriber you can either buy a standalone receiver at the discounted prices above, or if you are in need of a complete DIRECTV System add $250.00 to the advertised price of the complete DIRECTV� System of your choice. You can denote if you're an Existing Customer at Checkout.

So they're basically charging you an additional $250 for a dish if you're not an existing DTV customer. They don't even mention the install, I'm willing to bet the $250 doesn't include it.

A pox on them! :down:

Posted by: Blackhood

Here is mine :)

Time of Order: 3/3/2004 4:58:43 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13692

Posted by: chris_h

quote:
Originally posted by RxMan
Any idea when a person 'might' receive the HD-Tivo if they pre-ordered today?

Just curious. :)

I pre-ordered mine today and was told by Wendy "by the end of April."
I realize that this is not very specific. I need time cancel my E* service and do some additional pre-wiring anyways, so I am in no big hurry.

Posted by: neilaevans

quote:
Originally posted by Alexander
Aw, c'mon...noone? This thread is my source for real-time answers.

I'm still mystified about what this has to do with preordering HDTivos, but in general, no, they would not charge you for the estimate if you get the repairs done there. Estimates are generally applied towards the cost of the repair. YMMV of course, so I'd check with them to be sure.

But I repeat...huh??

Posted by: mikeb33

Here is the data from my email order confirmation:
Time of Order: 2/21/2004 9:45:47 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13550

For some reason, I don't appear on the list?

Any ideas?

MIKE

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by mikeb33
For some reason, I don't appear on the list?

Any ideas?

Because until just now, you didn't tell us you'd ordered one so we could put you on the list. ;)

This isn't a list from Value Electronics; it's one we've created from the posts people have made here.

Posted by: PJO1966

... and by "we", Doug means himself... That's the Royal we. Either that or he has a frog in his pocket.

Posted by: Alexander

quote:
Originally posted by neilaevans
I'm still mystified about what this has to do with preordering HDTivos, but in general, no, they would not charge you for the estimate if you get the repairs done there. Estimates are generally applied towards the cost of the repair. YMMV of course, so I'd check with them to be sure.

But I repeat...huh??

Cool, thanks.

Now, uh, I can keep my preorder and noone gets bumped up a slot....yeah, that's it. :eek:

Posted by: mercurial

quote:
Originally posted by PJO1966
... and by "we", Doug means himself... That's the Royal we. Either that or he has a frog in his pocket.

Actually, he's just happy to see you...

Posted by: the-sloth

<vent>called VE again today... still no CC auth form (this being my 4th try). she promised she would send it immediately.... that was an hour ago. <rolls eyes>

i just don't get it. i know someone on here could send me the form and i could use that... but it really mystifies me that i have to do so much leg work and yet im the one who is forking over nearly a $1,000 for this thing. i know they are busy and all but there is no way i should have to call them 4 times to get this form.... and still not have it. </vent>

oh ya... still no robert. :(

Posted by: billcoff

American Satellite
http://www.americansatellite.com/products/dvr250.asp
Expected retail for this receiver ranges from $999.99 to $1,199.99. We are taking pre-orders for this product. If you wish to be placed on our waiting list please call toll free 1-888-999-7331. Orders are shipped on a first in, first out basis. You'll receive notice when the product becomes available.

Posted by: Captain Spaulding

I'm in

Time of Order: 1/16/2004 9:03:51 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12594

Posted by: PJO1966

quote:
Originally posted by mercurial
Actually, he's just happy to see you...

Posted by: tremor_f

Yeah, I'm hopeless too...

Time of Order: 1/17/2004 7:23:32 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12688

-T.

Posted by: edrock200

This thread may actually be growing faster than the "Official HDVR2" thread did way back when...

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by the-sloth
<vent>called VE again today... still no CC auth form (this being my 4th try). she promised she would send it immediately.... that was an hour ago. <rolls eyes>

i just don't get it. i know someone on here could send me the form and i could use that... but it really mystifies me that i have to do so much leg work and yet im the one who is forking over nearly a $1,000 for this thing. i know they are busy and all but there is no way i should have to call them 4 times to get this form.... and still not have it. </vent>

oh ya... still no robert. :(

Do you think it might be getting stopped at your mail server because of the .DOC attachments?

Posted by: spillage

Time of Order: 1/27/2004 2:42:41 PM
Order Type: Phone
Order ID: 536##

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by Captain Spaulding
I'm in

Time of Order: 1/16/2004 9:03:51 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12594

You couldn't have picked a 1-byte shorter nickname could ya? :p Made me reformat everything again.

Posted by: dswallow

Order listing moved, for convenience, to http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...052#post1797052

Posted by: Darin

Ok, I feel so elusive up there with no order ID or time:

1345x 2-14 @ 2:29PM

Posted by: Jason

ok I'll play too...

Time of Order: 1/19/2004 12:54:41 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1277x

Posted by: hongcho

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Do you think it might be getting stopped at your mail server because of the .DOC attachments?

I also think this is very possible. Robert's email with three documents were classified as "Junk" on my hotmail account. I had to look through it before the junk folder got purged.

Hong.

Posted by: berth

Time of Order: 1/16/2004 1:47:54 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 125...very low XX

bert

Posted by: JohnA

Time of Order: 1/19/2004 12:33:22 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1280*

Just to update my order time, filling in the gaps.

Posted by: chezpaul

Okay I'm last... but not least... ;-)

Time of Order: 3/3/2004 7:29:03 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13693

Posted by: Stuigi

but I will miss this thread when we are all hdtivo owners.

Come to think of, its kind of sad that I am still following this thread :D

Posted by: MOTOMATT

Time of Order:Friday, January 16, 2004 12:44 PM

Posted by: PJO1966

quote:
Originally posted by Stuigi
but I will miss this thread when we are all hdtivo owners.

Then we'll have a whole new bunch of threads...

The FedEx watch Thread
The Installation thread
The Configure Thread
The Hey Guess What Secret Feature I Found Thread
The Can It Do This Thread....

The possibilities are endless!!

Posted by: Walter Lambert

Time of Order: 1/16/2004 6:18:25PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1257x

Are we close to 100% participation?

Posted by: AJ500

Time of Order: 1/18/2004 5:09:10 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1274x

Posted by: rttrek

Time of Order: 2/6/2004 1:21:52 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13316

Posted by: Craig540

I am almost last.

Time of Order: 2/27/2004 2:20:12 PM
> Order Type: Email
> Order ID: 13617

Posted by: xanthras

Oh no, we're going the wrong way now.

Time of Order: 2/29/2004 9:25:11 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13634

Posted by: arbywon

Time of Order: 2/16/2004 12:18:05 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13473

Posted by: poolne1

Okay, I'm in too:

Order # 1321x Email 02/01/04 03:10:30 PM

Order #1333x Email 02/07/04 01:18:30 PM

By the way, I received the email from Robert, which shows three attachments. I was able to open the two .doc files, but not the .pdf file. I open .pdf files all the time on this computer. I emailed Robert, but have not heard back yet. Can someone let me know if and how I can obtain the .pdf file other than from Robert?

Thanks.

Posted by: Darin

quote:
Originally posted by PJO1966
Then we'll have a whole new bunch of threads...

No, it'll be the "I've got four tuners and no new HD to record" threads. :(

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by Walter Lambert
Are we close to 100% participation?

Not even close.

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by poolne1
By the way, I received the email from Robert, which shows three attachments. I was able to open the two .doc files, but not the .pdf file. I open .pdf files all the time on this computer. I emailed Robert, but have not heard back yet. Can someone let me know if and how I can obtain the .pdf file other than from Robert?

EMail or PM me your email address and I'll send you a copy.

Posted by: sumisu

More data for the table

Time of Order: 1/17/2004 11:04:26 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12637

Posted by: philtor

for what it's worth...

Time of Order: 2/16/2004 7:07:39 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1347x

Posted by: scottrob

And its only early March....

Time of Order: 1/20/2004 12:00:13 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1289x

Posted by: TomB

OK, so I'm gonna be dumb (not an unusual situation for me). I am a Pegasus customer and know that the VE deal is for DirecTV customers only. I went by my local Best Buy, and they were clueless. Likewise for Ultimate Electronics.

Anybody got a pre-order solution for poor old me? (sigh)

Posted by: silversurfer

Time of Order: 1/26/04 8:49:12 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1308X

Posted by: dandrewk

SURVEY:

Which seems closer?:

1. HD TiVO
2. The check in the mail
3. Pluto

Posted by: Lsollee

Time of Order: 1/31/2004 11:07:30 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13210

Posted by: compuz1

is anybody here worried about what is being said in other threads about the HD DVR becoming obsolete right after it is released? Or is that just bull****?

Posted by: Stuigi

quote:
Originally posted by compuz1
is anybody here worried about what is being said in other threads about the HD DVR becoming obsolete right after it is released? Or is that just bull****?

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by Stuigi
(quoted text would appear here, if there was text to quote, but somebody decided to use the subject field for their text, and I don't feel like typing it here)

The thread that has a subject that's pretty evident:

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...threadid=163523

:p

And no, I'm not worried at all.

Posted by: aaronwt

I'm not worried. As long as it acts like my Existing DTivos and have the capability to record OTA HD and DTV HD . That's all I want along with the Tivo interface.

Posted by: Robert Deckman

OK, I'll play
1256x
1/16/04, 6:07 PM

Posted by: rogelah

Time of Order: 2/7/2004 6:52:09 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1334X

Posted by: quiddich

Oh, what's one more post in this very long thread?

Time of Order: 1/20/2004 6:20pm Eastern (or so)
Order Type: Phone
Order ID: 53597

Posted by: rickdsp

Here is mine

Time of Order: 2/5/2004 1:21:50 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1329X

Posted by: jimmy20

Below 200, I guess.
Time of Order: 1/17/2004 5:17:41 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1262X

Posted by: Korkle

Just got a PM from Robert --- I'm #188 in line :) 1/17/2004 1:02:08 pm order # 12656

Posted by: Korkle

Doug, please update my time as well, I gave you the email reply time rather than my order time which was 1:02:08 pm. Thanks for the chart -- it gives us all somthing to do while we wait, and wait, and wait .........

Posted by: Gromit

quote:
Originally posted by Korkle
Just got a PM from Robert --- I'm #188 in line :) 1/17/2004 1:02:08 pm

Great! I'm 11:40 am so you've helped me figure out roughly where I am even though I haven't received a PM from Robert yet.

Posted by: Gromit

quote:
Originally posted by poolne1
Okay, I'm in too:

Order # 1321x Email 02/01/04 03:10:30 PM

Order #1333x Email 02/07/04 01:18:30 PM

By the way, I received the email from Robert, which shows three attachments. I was able to open the two .doc files, but not the .pdf file. I open .pdf files all the time on this computer. I emailed Robert, but have not heard back yet. Can someone let me know if and how I can obtain the .pdf file other than from Robert?

Thanks.

Do you have the latest version of Acrobat Reader? I've had problems trying to open newer pdf files if I'm using 5.0 or earlier. I think 6.0 is current.

Posted by: jeff125va

Here's mine:
Time of Order: 1/16/2004 8:26:46 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12591

Posted by: madgrizzle

And here's mine

Time of Order: 1/23/2004 3:21:03 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13039

Posted by: slacky2

Oh what the hell!!

Time of Order: 1/20/2004 4:41:14 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1287*

Posted by: PJO1966

Here's my update. I just called to see if they could confirm that they have at least received my fax. The girl who answered the phone said that Wendy had a pile of paper on her desk and hasn't made it through it yet. There was no way to confirm anything. I'm trying very hard not to be a pain in the butt, but unfortunately... it's who I am.

Posted by: AbMagFab

I wanted to follow up since I've been kind of vocal. Robert left me a message with my sequence number, and it looks like all is good now. I want to thank Robert for following up and getting the sequence numbers out to people.

I look forward to doing business with Robert and VE.

Thanks!

Posted by: rvaniwaa

quote:
Originally posted by AbMagFab
I wanted to follow up since I've been kind of vocal. Robert left me a message with my sequence number, and it looks like all is good now. I want to thank Robert for following up and getting the sequence numbers out to people.

I look forward to doing business with Robert and VE.

Thanks!

Care to share your #? I am just two before you in Doug's list so I am especially interested!

Posted by: the-sloth

quote:
I'm trying very hard not to be a pain in the butt, but unfortunately... it's who I am.

me too bro.... customer service does seem to be a bit lacking... with the one exception being robert. i called 4 times trying to get them to email me the CC auth document. each time the person (not robert) promised me they would email it immediately. each time they failed to ever get it to me... after the 4th try (and one month later) robert came through and emailed it to me. thanks robert.

Posted by: the-sloth

quote:
Originally posted by AbMagFab
I want to thank Robert for following up and getting the sequence numbers out to people.

I look forward to doing business with Robert and VE.

has everyone got their number? i haven't.

Posted by: midas

Nope, no number here. But I'm not too worried.

Posted by: Anthony In NYC

I'll post my info.

Time of Order: 1/19/2004 1:33:11 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1281*

Posted by: randyth

I don't have my number yet, but I haven't received an email with the documents either. I suppose I will call or PM Robert sometime late next week if it doesn't arrive by then.

I assume I'm not the only one who hasn't received an email from VE... am I?

-Randy

Posted by: MichaelK

quote:
Originally posted by AbMagFab
.... since I've been kind of vocal. .....

and the winner of the understatement of the year award is.....

Posted by: Darin

I haven't gotten a sequence number or the email with the documents, but I'm quite a ways down the list... I'm not worried about it.

Posted by: hoby

Wow... you people are crazy. :)

I can't wait for my HDTivo, but man, some people seem to lust after this thing. ;)

I am not gonna bother Robert about anything, I am not worried, and I think I ordered quick enough to see this thing by 2nd week in April at least.

The guy is doing everyone a serious favor here by doing all this extra work to keep forum members happy. I would have thought the pre-order deal was enough. Oh well, everyone seems happier than the zillion past threads I have been reading though... hehe...

Posted by: the-sloth

for the record and so my response doesn't get misconstrued in any way.. i am not complaining but rather amused at how long and how much work it took to get the required paperwork completed. at least i had something to joke about when calling VE :D.

Posted by: dr_mal

Something to consider...

I got my sequence number PMd to me here very shortly after posting my info. When I made my pre-order, I didn't (and I suspect nobody else did either) give him my TC username. So he didn't have a good way to correlate my username to an order.

Also, I posted my full order number, which made it very easy for Robert to look up where that order number was in his master list. Most of you have been xing out one or more digits, which doesn't help Robert find your order.

Since TC (or AVS) membership is a prerequisite for this preorder deal, it makes sense that he'd use TC PM functionality to notify you of your position.

Of course, this is all speculative on my part, but maybe if you posted your full order number, Robert could get your position a little quicker.

Posted by: gilgamesh

joining the club:

Time of Order: 2/2/2004 11:35:12 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13239

Posted by: PJO1966

let the onslaught of complete order numbers commence...

12522

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by PJO1966
let the onslaught of complete order numbers commence...

12522

If you guys are gonna do this to me, please include your date/time too, so I don't have to look through this rather lengthy non-alphabetical list. ;) And yeah, I know it's "basically" ordered by order number, but I have my reasons.

BTW, I doubt this will really help Robert; he's already getting your username via the paperwork he's asked to be faxed to him; and short of that, he does have your email address already since you compelted an online order.

Posted by: Korkle

Yes there are a number of us who are "lusting" after this thing. MOST of us, however, are leaving Robert and the folks at VE alone so they can take care of their everyday business. I am sure they will get the info out to us as soon as possible including position in the que. Meanwhile, Doug has given us a means by which to pass the time (April is still a few weeks away) and a way to guess our place in line. It is harmless fun --- a great time killer --- and keeps the thread alive. It also is a great introduction to those members who will be the backbone of the new threads about this toy when the unit finally ships.

Posted by: PJO1966

Sorry Doug... I just assumed that you had everything cross-referenced :D

Time of Order: 1/16/2004 2:52:53 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12522

Thanks for keeping us organized! :up:

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by PJO1966
Sorry Doug... I just assumed that you had everything cross-referenced :D

Time of Order: 1/16/2004 2:52:53 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12522

Thanks for keeping us organized! :up:

I already did yours; I was just more concerned about another onslaught.

But I really don't think this is necessary at all. He will have this info from other means, and isn't telling people their position until he has that paperwork from people anyway.

Posted by: midas

Hey Doug, I think you're crazy for starting the list, but I do appreciate it. It's one of the cool things about TCF that people will invest their time like this.

But I do have a request. Can you start another thread with your list at the top of the thread. Then whenver you update it just edit the first message. That would make it a lot easier to find than having to remember what page of this thread it was posted on last.

Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by midas
Hey Doug, I think you're crazy for starting the list, but I do appreciate it. It's one of the cool things about TCF that people will invest their time like this.

But I do have a request. Can you start another thread with your list at the top of the thread. Then whenver you update it just edit the first message. That would make it a lot easier to find than having to remember what page of this thread it was posted on last.

I have been scooting it forward every 2 pages (if you set your pages to be the max 40 posts long). Isn't it more fun seeing this happen in a huge thread? ;)

Posted by: Korkle

I agree, Doug. I just put a post-it on my 'putter with the page # of the last run. By, the way, thanks again! ...

Posted by: PJO1966

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
(He) isn't telling people their position until he has that paperwork from people anyway.

I faxed my paperwork on Sunday. Hopefully it's buried in the pile of paper that's sitting on Wendy's desk.

Posted by: dswallow

I just want to take this opportunity to welcome all the new people who've obviously posted for the first time here; I've noticed a lot of folks with just 1 or 2 posts who've said they bought one of these HD units. I don't know how many of you might've just been lurking around anyway, but it's good to have some new blood posting!

Posted by: dr_mal

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
I already did yours; I was just more concerned about another onslaught.

But I really don't think this is necessary at all. He will have this info from other means, and isn't telling people their position until he has that paperwork from people anyway.

He didn't have my paperwork when he sent me my position. I'm not even sure if he'd sent out the big e-mail yet at that point.

But yeah, once you've sent in your paperwork, he'll have your username, order number, and e-mail tied together.

And Doug -- you're welcome :D

Posted by: Robert L

Well, I'll add more information, for that list. I haven't received anything from VE, nothing at all since I ordered. I had to call just to make sure they actually had the order in the system.

Even though I see at least one person that has received the forms, with a higher order number than me. They also never answer emails, so I'll just wait and see if I ever get anything... Appears to be plenty of time left, hopefully not much longer than everyone is expecting though.

I don't have the exact time because its didn't show up when I place the order, on the page I printed out.

Time of Order: 1/26/04
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13136

Posted by: hrpull

1/19/2004 11:51:44 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1280x

Long time MS-UTV owner now getting an HD-TIVO :)

Posted by: fredace

This is hilarious! But...
Time of Order: 1/19/2004 3:19:05 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12831

Posted by: sherlocc

Doug:

I am one of the lurkers you referenced.

I have to admit that I have been lurking for months. I have been tracking the speculation on the TIVO/HD/DirecTV box but didn't join in. While a competent A/V do-it-your-selfer, I am not in a position to give advice, and am otherwise reticent. I have not found it necessary to ask any questions, only track the issues you guys have been involved with. Fantastic!

This forum has been incredible. As a result of you guys I have sorted out how to upgrade from my 1997 DirecTV installation to a three bird HDTV capable setup. Your info gave me the requisite understanding that led me to the Phase III dish and the requisite 4*8 multiswitch configuration.

In particular, I have to send kudos to Feldon - his explanations have been clear and very understandable.

I am now all configured with all cables in place and just awaiting the delivery of this wonderful new box (order position estimated at 110).

Thanks again - you guys are great.

Sherlocc

Posted by: MichaelK

quote:
Originally posted by Robert L
Well, I'll add more information, for that list. I haven't received anything from VE, nothing at all since I ordered. I had to call just to make sure they actually had the order in the system.

Even though I see at least one person that has received the forms, with a higher order number than me. They also never answer emails, so I'll just wait and see if I ever get anything... Appears to be plenty of time left, hopefully not much longer than everyone is expecting though.

I don't have the exact time because its didn't show up when I place the order, on the page I printed out.

Time of Order: 1/26/04
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13136

Sounds to me like you are not recieving emails from them. About 30 or 40 pages back (only half kidding....), Robert said something about AOL filtering emails from VE. Maybe your ISP is filtering his emails too.

Posted by: dswallow

Pay it forward, sherlocc. Jump into the fray and answer (or even just confirm another answer) sometime; if you get it wrong or miss something, someone else'll be there to correct you -- we all started out like that in some fashion -- and you'll get confident you're giving accurate advice with a little time. :)

Good to have ya here!

Posted by: sherlocc

Thanks Doug! Glad to be here!

Sherlocc

Posted by: Will-san

quote:
I just want to take this opportunity to welcome all the new people who've obviously posted for the first time here; I've noticed a lot of folks with just 1 or 2 posts who've said they bought one of these HD units. I don't know how many of you might've just been lurking around anyway, but it's good to have some new blood posting!

I have been on AVS for a while and lurk here from time to time. I recently made the switch from Replay (because of the HDTivo) and this forum has been great in helping with the transition (I couldn't live with out my 30sec quick skip). You guys are great!

Any way this thread has gotten way out of hand, and I love it. it's the most fun I have had on line since I found Homestarrunner.

I sent Robert an email about some other stuff related to The HDTivo and added a request for my place in line. Mainly because I am curious how accurate Doug's list turns out to be.

oh BTW my order time was 7:59:22 pm.

Posted by: Darin

quote:
Originally posted by sherlocc
I have to admit that I have been lurking for months. ... I am not in a position to give advice, and am otherwise reticent.

It's not like you have nothing to offer. I've already learned something from you: I had to look up reticent.

:D

Posted by: dswallow

Isn't there a dictionary thread around here?

Posted by: Korkle

I also have been lurking for a while. Didn't have a TiVo so did not bother to post .... just read and learn. Now moving from replay and UTV to TiVo. So expect to see me hanging around trying to get up to speed with you old-timers. Thanks to all of you - in this thread and others- for the education in TiVo you have given me. I'm ready (I think).