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Posted by: RightHere

quote:
Originally posted by dropper
The airwaves belong to the people.
If that's true, then someone owes me a lot of money!

BTW, if commercial tv disappeared tomorrow, yes, everyone would miss it. Maybe not right away, but it wouldn't take long. Can you imagine if EVERY channel had never ending pledge drives like PBS? Crikey...


Posted by: ArmyEagle

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
1 year ago, I would've almost wanted one. About 11 months ago, I needed one.

I wonder how many people who have ordered one were in a position a year ago to make use of it (already had a HDTV display) had it been available then.


I bought my first HDTV in April 2000. I replaced it in January 2003 with a Samsung 50" DLP.


Posted by: ArmyEagle

Here you go, Doug


Time of Order: 1/25/2004 1:36:29 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1306x


Posted by: Robert Crawford

Doug,

Time of oder: 2/20/2004
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13XXX


Posted by: madpoet

My stats :)

Time of order: 3/5/2004
Order type: Phone
Order ID: 5392x


Posted by: Robert Simandl

First post in this forum, pleased to meet everybody. Add me to the preorder list:



Time of Order: 3/05/2004
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 137xx

So now it's the end of April? Waaaaaah.........


Posted by: haggis444

Time of Order: 1/20/2004 8:39:11 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 128xx


Posted by: borghe

so does anyone know what happened with robert's posts? I mean I am confident that I am still at least under 350 and should get mine by the first or second week of April (hopefully), I am just wondering how he looked to be fine keeping track of orders up through the 168 post but just went to hell after that. by the time he says they hit 200 they were already close to 300 and 219 looks like they might have even been close to 400? allocation and 350 mark posts had to be made well after 400...

just curious... guess it is just kind of disappointing to put my order in and have him come in a while afterwards to say they now have 219, only to find out that I might in fact be closer to 350. :(


Posted by: Y0SHI

The Value Electronics website does not reflect it anymore, but at one time didn't it say that only 350 pre-orders were going to be accepted? I thought I remember seeing that originally.


Posted by: PJO1966

If you look at Doug's list, it seems that they've already gone beyond 350.


Posted by: SmackDaddy

Time of Order: 2/7/2004 5:19:21 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 133xx


Posted by: Y0SHI

quote:
orginally posted by PJO1966
If you look at Doug's list, it seems that they've already gone beyond 350.


Really? That is why I am bringing it up. Orginally, the pre-order page stated that only 350 orders would be taken. This assured that if you got your order in, you would have a good chance of being in the initial allotment (or what the allotment was thought to be at that time). I was just curious as to if anyone knew when/why that disclaimer was removed.

P.S. Not trying to start a flamewar...just curious.


Posted by: jswilke

Me too.

Order date: 2/28/2004
Order type: email
Order No: 136nn

Jim:)


Posted by: PJO1966

Sorry I misunderstood. I vaguely remember seeing that disclaimer, although it seems like it was 100 years ago. I guess they figured they would be getting enough units to fill all orders. The deal still stands that if you can get it sooner you get your deposit back.


Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by Y0SHI
Really? That is why I am bringing it up. Orginally, the pre-order page stated that only 350 orders would be taken. This assured that if you got your order in, you would have a good chance of being in the initial allotment (or what the allotment was thought to be at that time). I was just curious as to if anyone knew when/why that disclaimer was removed.

P.S. Not trying to start a flamewar...just curious.
The 350 was based originally on what Robert was to have received in the very first shipment. That all has since changed, of course, since they're producing them a week earlier now, but a comparatively small number that week.

As I recall, once he though his forst order of 350 was sold out he changed delivery info to be "mid-April" and continued taking orders, and based on that had ordered more from Hughes (and now from DirecTV since they changed the ordering process), with some assurances he'll get X number of them quickly. To that end, his post on 2/16 (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...381#post1738381) talked about a "second allocation".

But nonetheless, you still have the money-back guarantee if you can get it elsewhere before he ships the unit to you.


Posted by: dswallow

Why are people just posting dates of their orders and no times today?

That's annoying.

Everyone. Read the list. It has dates AND times. Please provide enough info for me to keep the list in some semblance of order. Date AND time.

Thank you.


Posted by: subcook

quote:
Originally posted by DTV TiVo Dealer
We are over the 350 mark. However, we will get additional inventory to fill all of the orders that are pre-sold within the first week of production.


Way back in Post 292 Robert said this. Things have changed and the dates may have shifted but he will still get you your product, but of course he "will refund 100% of the money, upon request, only if you can purchase the HD-DVR250 anywhere else sooner than I can ship."

Andrew

Edit: Doug you really need to get out more and give others a chance to build up their posts also. :D


Posted by: slocko

just got my number from Robert. Had to PM him.

I am number 30.

Time of Order: 1/16/2004 1:07:21 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12500

and yes, I am using a new id Doug.

i guess there must have been like 10 phone orders between me and the next internet order. Don't know how 12504 got ahead of me though!!!! There must be a conspiracy!!!!!!


Posted by: mark910

Time of Order: 1/21/2004 6:05:04 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 129XX


Posted by: dstay

Time of Order: 1/20/2004 5:21:54 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12909


Posted by: Darin

Should I be sad that I'm the only one who ordered on valentines day?


Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by Darin
Should I be sad that I'm the only one who ordered on valentines day?
At least you've got your priorities right. :p


Posted by: cheridave

quote:
Originally posted by Darin
Should I be sad that I'm the only one who ordered on valentines day?


HD-TIVO is like a Box of Chocolates, you never know if or when your going to get it!!!!!!

Dave


Posted by: EJ

Time of Order: 1/17/2004 12:32:01AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 126XX


Posted by: Scott R. Scherr

I was bad. I posted with only the date. Here we go:

Scott R. Scherr
1/31/04 at 8:52 a.m.
#13199

Hey, at least I posted the full order number without any "X's".

Scott

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Why are people just posting dates of their orders and no times today?

That's annoying.

Everyone. Read the list. It has dates AND times. Please provide enough info for me to keep the list in some semblance of order. Date AND time.

Thank you.



Posted by: jerryj

Better late than to have missed the party.

Time of Order: 3/5/2004 1:36:27 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13725

(Note: for some reason I had to reregister for this forum)
Jerry


Posted by: Shark73

Doug,

Here is my info. I'm #16 on the list per the email I received from VE.

Time of Order: 1/16/2004 12:52:21 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: XXXXX


Jim


Posted by: datapace

Time of Order: 1/17/2004 10:49:54 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12635

#? Don't know ... Didn't get the email and no response to inquires. Looking at the current list, I should be 168 or lower.


Posted by: tivoPaul

Doug,

Here's my info:

Time of Order: 1/22/2004 9:40:13 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 129XX


Posted by: looknow12

Time of Order: 2/9/2004 4:16:40 PM
Order Type: Email


Posted by: bben5092

time of order 1/18/04 at 11:15 am
I'm #249 according to recent email


Posted by: Todd

Do the times ordered really need to be down to the second?? :D


Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by Todd
Do the times ordered really need to be down to the second?? :D 


code:
zbimmer            1250x     1/16/2004 1:48:00 PM  #32
mainecooncat       1250x     1/16/2004 1:48:19 PM

bmel               xxxxx     1/16/2004 2:54:35 PM
rvaniwaa           12525     1/16/2004 2:54:37 PM  #52

Larry Hutchinson   12573     1/16/2004 6:26:19 PM
chilidip_tivo      1257x     1/16/2004 6:26:48 PM

lsdean             1269x     1/17/2004 10:18:10 PM #228
midas              1269x     1/17/2004 10:18:47 PM #229



Posted by: dave3

Time of Order: 1/19/2004 5:52:52 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1284X

I had to join the bandwagon, although I am not sure what for?


Posted by: Bobmac

Time of Order: 1/22/2004 4:33:07 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12995

I've been lurking long enough.....here's my order information.


Posted by: joegolf68

Doug, thanks for all the hard work. Sorry, I don't have date or time. I placed my order online and have not received a single email or anything thereafter. I won't bug Robert as he has his hands full. When things get close, I will get the forms and all. I am not too worried as I have my GG order to fall back on and since I am in CA and GG pre-ordered 1,000, I have a shot at beating Robert's first orders! Now I know that will be a killer for everyone here.

I am order number 217 with GG and the salesperson said they are going to fill the pre-orders immediately upon receipt in their CA wharehouse. Maybe I will make arrangements to drive the 90 miles to the Bay Area just so I can get mine and post goodies here.

Who knows, I am just speculating about everything but I haven't posted in a while so figured I should stir something up! Anyone else go to GG and pre-order and get the $899 deal also?


Posted by: bertschb

I've emailed Robert twice myself with no replies. Makes me a little nervous. I don't have a fax machine so I filled out his forms, scanned them and then emailed them back to him. I asked him if that was OK (twice) but no response yet. I also haven't got an email yet confirming my place in his "que".

Sure hope he catches up on his emails soon. I've done my part (placed my order, paid $100, filled out his forms, etc.).


Posted by: PJO1966

Robert had posted here that e-mail was fine for returning the forms...


Posted by: bertschb

Thanks. I didn't see his post (I've tried to keep up but.....). Now I just hope he actually got my email.


Posted by: slocko

I have now resorted to bragging to people how I might get the x manufactured HD-Tivo in the country.

Sad sad sad. Why couldn't I just be a hard working farmer whose only concern was how his corn crop was going to turn out this year :D


Posted by: PJO1966

Let's see... Amish... or HD? Hmmm...


Posted by: chezpaul

Okay, what's all this about forms.... ???
I could go back and read the 80 pages of this thread but no thanks...
I already ordered, recieved a confirmation email right after the order was placed and that's it. Should I by doing something else ? What's this faxing stuff ?


Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by chezpaul
Okay, what's all this about forms.... ???
I could go back and read the 80 pages of this thread but no thanks...
I already ordered, recieved a confirmation email right after the order was placed and that's it. Should I by doing something else ? What's this faxing stuff ?
Read the summary at the bottom of this post: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...907#post1788907


Posted by: jarredduq

#47
Time of Order: 1/16/2004 2:29:11 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 125xx


Posted by: crownman6

Just found out that order #12868 (not sure exactly what time I ordered on 1/19) is not in the first 350. That puts a lot of us with some hopes outside the first allocation.


Posted by: tgk

OK, I'll play.

Time of Order: 1/17/2004 4:29:29 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 126xx


Posted by: Will-san

This thread is like crack. I logged on from my hotel in Tokyo to check to see if anything good has happened.


Posted by: Marco

quote:
Originally posted by crownman6
Just found out that order #12868 (not sure exactly what time I ordered on 1/19) is not in the first 350. That puts a lot of us with some hopes outside the first allocation.


As #12922, what's your source for that information? That doesn't square with Doug's painstakingly compiled listing.


Posted by: grins

Hey, Will, me too! Sort of

I was in Germany for a week, and came back to 50 new pages in this thread. The first 20 or so were all the robert scammed me, he's a theif, which of course almost all of us know is completely untrue, in fact so far from the truth to be laughable if the pedants weren't so emphatic. At that point I worried that, somewhere in the next 30 pages was Robert saying 'Enough!' and cancelling all orders. Thank goodness for DSwallow saving our sanity and forum decorum.

Now I have to mail my forms to Robert and get my number :D :D

t


Posted by: crownman6

"As #12922, what's your source for that information? That doesn't square with Doug's painstakingly compiled listing"


Recieved a PM from Robert - in response to a request. He also said he would not be giving actual numbers to anyone over 350. He indicated I was somewhere between 350 and 400.


Posted by: Darin

quote:
Originally posted by Marco
That doesn't square with Doug's painstakingly compiled listing.

You have to keep in mind that list isn't all inclusive... there are a lot of orders that aren't on that list. According to the list, 1/19 starts off at #300, and if you look at how many orders ARE listed between #250 and #300, hitting 350 on 1/19 looks quite probable (1/19 looks like it was a pretty big order day). Last I heard, people who are currently ordering are still scheduled for shipment by the end of April, so it shouldn't make a HUGE difference.


Posted by: jeffshome

Time of Order: 3/8/2004 10:02:30 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1375x

This is a 2nd unit. I wanted to give everyone a chance to get theirs before I ordered a 2nd unit.


Posted by: MichaelK

well since #300 is here:

code:
Bill Milford       12768     1/18/2004 10:54:19 PM
cpreese            1277x     1/18/2004 11:20:38 PM
02Overlander       xxxxx     1/19/2004 12:29:13 AM #300
SteveWinNJ         1277x     1/19/2004 12:33 AM


assuming that 02Overlader is 12772
(you people paranoid about your order number getting around crack me up :D but thats another thread I suppose)
And then assuming after that every order number in sequential order is a HDirecTivo that would put 350 at order number 12822. Since I'm 12823, I'm hoping there's at least one order in there for a sd box or something so I can squeeze in to be #350. 

code:
kssmyth            12814     1/19/2004 1:28:37 PM
Anthony In NYC     1281x     1/19/2004 1:33:11 PM
Jim Skripchuk      1282x     1/19/2004 1:56:21 PM
MichaelK           12823     1/19/2004 2:00:14 PM
:D


Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by MichaelK
Since I'm 12823, I'm hoping there's at least one order in there for a sd box or something so I can squeeze in to be #350.
Better wish for 2 SD orders... ;) There is at least one phone order in there then, too.


Posted by: sc0tt

How do we confirm the faxed DTV agreement and credit card info to sent to Value Electronics was received and processed. Another thing to worry about!


Scott


Posted by: kbcrowe

quote:
Originally posted by borghe
so does anyone know what happened with robert's posts? I mean I am confident that I am still at least under 350 and should get mine by the first or second week of April (hopefully), I am just wondering how he looked to be fine keeping track of orders up through the 168 post but just went to hell after that. by the time he says they hit 200 they were already close to 300 and 219 looks like they might have even been close to 400? allocation and 350 mark posts had to be made well after 400...

just curious... guess it is just kind of disappointing to put my order in and have him come in a while afterwards to say they now have 219, only to find out that I might in fact be closer to 350. :(


Think that's disappointing, I ordered in between Robert saying it was getting close to the allocation and that he had hit the 350 mark, so you'd think I made it just under the wire. Instead it looks like I'm closer to number 500!

I do think Robert will honor the refund provision, but I could have been first on my local Tweeter's pre-order list, but didn't since I've got a $100 deposit sitting at VE.


Posted by: dave3

Mike you can not assume that every order is for a HDtivo since VE has all thier orders mixed in for other items in there. For example i ordered a harmony remote that was on the page right after I ordered my hdtivo, so thats another order number.

dave


Posted by: ferky1

FYI - because I had not yet received my email, I just called and spoke to Wendy at VE. She confirmed that I was in the first 350 and it was still set to be shipped early April. I was further told that a lot more emails are going out today.

Phone order #53575
1/19/04 around 10am


Posted by: randyth

quote:
Originally posted by ferky1
FYI - because I had not yet received my email, I just called and spoke to Wendy at VE. She confirmed that I was in the first 350 and it was still set to be shipped early April. I was further told that a lot more emails are going out today.

Phone order #53575
1/19/04 around 10am


I ordered via the net just about an hour after you. I'm probably #351. ;-)

-Randy


Posted by: MichaelK

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Better wish for 2 SD orders... ;) There is at least one phone order in there then, too.


your killing me;)

dont worry, LB isnt so far from Flemington so if there are lots of those darn phone orders I'll be banging on your door to play.


Posted by: MichaelK

quote:
Originally posted by dave3
Mike you can not assume that every order is for a HDtivo since VE has all thier orders mixed in for other items in there. For example i ordered a harmony remote that was on the page right after I ordered my hdtivo, so thats another order number.

dave


I know it isnt one for one.

I'm hoping for lots of remote controls and SD boxes and the like.

I need to make up for all the phone orders:D


Posted by: DTV TiVo Dealer

When we offered the pre-order our CSR's were asked for everyone to place the orders on the shopping cart so we could easily control the orders. As time passed some CSR's took phone orders, which threw off my tally sheet.

The good news is that it appears that production will be sufficient to fill many more orders than originally scheduled, so in the very close end everyone will be very happy.


Posted by: madpoet

Good :). Thanks for the update.


Posted by: midas

quote:
Originally posted by DTV TiVo Dealer
The good news is that it appears that production will be sufficient to fill many more orders than originally scheduled, so in the very close end everyone will be very happy.


TEASE !

We need details !!! How can we all agonize without details????


Posted by: TallGuy

That is great news.

I just talked myself up from 2-day air to overnight by thinking about how frustrated I'd be if it arrived the Monday after the Masters instead of the Friday before that weekend. I've had time to mentally get over the $955 purchase, and so it was easier to justify an additional $20...

Any projections on how many DOA boxes they will produce? I vote that those are all sent to the east coast somewhere... :) Someplace where you all are spoiled rotten by having dozens of DTV OTA signals to choose from...


Posted by: the-sloth

quote:
Originally posted by DTV TiVo Dealer
When we offered the pre-order our CSR's were asked for everyone to place the orders on the shopping cart so we could easily control the orders. As time passed some CSR's took phone orders, which threw off my tally sheet.


i would have ordered online, but i needed an oval dish and after an hour of searching for one on the website i gave up and called.


Posted by: Neal LosAngeles

1/19/2004 8:05:46 PM
email
#12860


Posted by: Lee L

FYI, I got my confiramtion back, I'm 285.

Before, I left out the last digit of my original order number since it seemed everyone else was doing it but I soon realized that it would be easy enough to figure it out anyway using the list. Oh well, its 12756.


Posted by: BillJulyan

Time of Order: 3/3/2004 2:55:21 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13688


Posted by: rttrek

quote:
Originally posted by DTV TiVo Dealer
The good news is that it appears that production will be sufficient to fill many more orders than originally scheduled, so in the very close end everyone will be very happy.

Great news! Thanks!!

Given that I'm probably down around #800 or so, do you really expect that many by, say, 4/15 or so?

Would you say that Hughes/DirecTV has been surprised by the volume of pre-orders?


Posted by: BobJ2004

Originally posted by DTV TiVo Dealer
The good news is that it appears that production will be sufficient to fill many more orders than originally scheduled, so in the very close end everyone will be very happy.
================================

I have had it with Dishnetwork, ready to switch today with there Viacom / CBS channel shutoff threat tonight and the many bugs in the 921

Now just a matter of how soon I can get TWO SD Tivos and One HD Tivo.
I can do my own install if needed (did about 10 Dishnets installs before).

Has the estimated date changed any on the HD Tivo with the quote about for AVS and Tivo Com. members? If we ordered today?

Do we need to ask for anyone special on the phone?


Posted by: mishagray

I'm #258!

Woohoo!

Time of Order: 1/18/2004 1:22:43 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12730


Posted by: StephenT

There hasn't been a post since 2:52. What's going on here? Has everybody got there's but me, and they are off hooking them up? It's a conspiracy I tell ya.


Posted by: mercurial

quote:
Originally posted by StephenT
There hasn't been a post since 2:52. What's going on here? Has everybody got there's but me, and they are off hooking them up? It's a conspiracy I tell ya.


We're all sitting on the beach rubbing suntan lotion on our HR10-250's while sipping Pina Colada's and enjoying the warm tropical breeze. Why aren't you here? Haven't you gotten your HD TiVo yet?










:D


Posted by: dave3

Thank you robert for the good news update.

I am glad you have not given us an exact date yet, because I will just be counting down the minutes. I will be happy to have a surprise come in the mail one day, as long as I am not too far down the line, HEHE.

dave


Posted by: slocko

Is there anyway for me to prepare for the arrival of my unit?

Like jumping jacks, learn a new dance, volunteer at the Y, give hugs to my ups drivers, re-read my Tivo manual, re-read this entire thread, re-read this entire thread but start from the end, get a Mexican paypal that works in the manufacturing Tivo facility, etc, etc.......


Posted by: joegolf68

I am not going to go back and wade through the pages and pages here, but my question is: What happened to the two people saying such horrible things about Robert? Have they posted anymore? Do they realize that things are getting better, not worse? Just asking.

I called Robert today as I am number 360 or so. He said if I pay full price he will bump me up to the first shipment! Great news.

Just kidding everyone...... put down your 357's!

Joe


Posted by: fleasure

Yes Reread the thread that will help.

Make a new thread translating this one to Spanish


Posted by: Stuigi

quote:
Originally posted by slocko
Is there anyway for me to prepare for the arrival of my unit?

get a Mexican paypal that works in the manufacturing Tivo facility, etc, etc.......


Slocko, you've been buying stuff online too long. I believe you meant penpal, not paypal :D


Posted by: edrock200

quote:
Originally posted by joegolf68
I am not going to go back and wade through the pages and pages here, but my question is: What happened to the two people saying such horrible things about Robert? Have they posted anymore? Do they realize that things are getting better, not worse? Just asking.

Why you gotta be bringin up old crap? ;)
quote:

I called Robert today as I am number 360 or so. He said if I pay full price he will bump me up to the first shipment! Great news.

Just kidding everyone...... put down your 357's!


I think everyone's blood pressure shot up for about 5 seconds. :)


Posted by: dswallow

Order listing moved, for convenience, to http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...052#post1797052


Posted by: elfersan

Time of Order: 1/23/2004 1:11:00 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 130xx


Posted by: Ray Turner

Ordered HD Tivo from ValueElectronics on 3/7/2004
order number13743


Posted by: ethan

I still haven't received the agreement documents from VE. Am I the only one?

I'm trying to be patient, but the excitement is killing me! :D


Posted by: Hootydog

I used to love ya man. Now to review your list each time it appears more and more like I'm in the 500 range. :(

It'll still be all be good if Robert et al comes through and I get mine before the end of April.
Especially if it comes by my B'Day on the 24th. ;)


Posted by: ZAPMAN

ZAPMAN 12692 1/17/2004 8:41:13 PM #223


Posted by: dave3

every sunday that passes is another sunday that sopronos is not seen or recorded in HD. BOO HOO.


Posted by: chas98

Time of Order: 2/16/2004 10:37:53 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13483
ChaS98


Posted by: rogo

That "where will they ship from?" question is big to me...

I don't want to pay 2-day shipping if the stuff is reaching me from San Diego -- it'll only take 2 days that way anyway....

I guess I don't return my forms until there is an answer.

Oh, but as #2, sooner is a good thing. :)


Posted by: Craig540

Time of Order: 2/27/2004 2:20:12 PM
> Order Type: Email
> Order ID: 13617

No Email yet . Anyone after me get a Email yet ?


Posted by: neilaevans

quote:
Originally posted by rogo
That "where will they ship from?" question is big to me...

I don't want to pay 2-day shipping if the stuff is reaching me from San Diego -- it'll only take 2 days that way anyway....

I guess I don't return my forms until there is an answer.

Oh, but as #2, sooner is a good thing. :)


Rogo, have you emailed/pmed/called Robert to try to find an answer? I'm guessing that at this point, there is no definite answer, but as #2, you might have some luck getting the skinny :D


Posted by: chriswood

chriswood 13351 2/4/2004 3:13:57 AM

No email from valueelectronics (yet).


Posted by: ericlovestivo

Time of Order: 2/6/2004 11:26:16 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 133xx


Posted by: iambroke

2/16/04
9:37:59 AM
13471

You guys need help. I'm thinking about writing a psychology term paper about this thread.
Tentative title - HD TiVo Hierarchy: What Number Are You?

So lay back, relax, and let me ask you a question.
How does it make you feeeeel when someone posts a lower order number than you. Emasculated? Dejected? Murderous? Does it make you yearn for a maternal presence?
Go on. Let it out. You'll feel better.


Posted by: DTV TiVo Dealer

quote:
Originally posted by Hootydog
I used to love ya man. Now to review your list each time it appears more and more like I'm in the 500 range. :(

It'll still be all be good if Robert et al comes through and I get mine before the end of April.
Especially if it comes by my B'Day on the 24th. ;)


No promise on the gift wrapping, but I will make a note to include a Birthday card.


Posted by: LarryInAz

quote:
Originally posted by rogo
That "where will they ship from?" question is big to me...

I don't want to pay 2-day shipping if the stuff is reaching me from San Diego -- it'll only take 2 days that way anyway....

I guess I don't return my forms until there is an answer.

Oh, but as #2, sooner is a good thing. :)


You can put your shipping preference on one of the forms. You should send the forms in ASAP to prevent any potential delay.


Posted by: Hootydog

quote:
Originally posted by DTV TiVo Dealer
No promise on the gift wrapping, but I will make a note to include a Birthday card.
Ahhh, Thanks Robert. You, of course, do not have to but I sincerely appreciate the thought!

David


Posted by: Kamakzie

Robert, keep up the good work! If Dish drops Spike TV tonight I might have to switch early and take you up on your SD Tivo and receiver offer while i wait for my HD Tivo! :)


Posted by: joegolf68

I just sent a PM to Robert to thank him all he is doing. I got a message back stating his box was full! Poor guy is being overwhelmed. Heck, all I wanted to do was say thanks and I might have added to his headaches instead!

:)


Posted by: crazy*tivo*guy

Doug -- One more for the list.

1/31/2004 12:28:53 #13203

Come on, baby! Crank those things out and ship 'em!:D


Posted by: aaronwt

I'm still waiting for my place in line. I sent the fax at the end of February. Hopefully I will get an email shortly.


Posted by: webini

Time of Order: 2/7/2004 6:02:37 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13341


Posted by: joegolf68

I can't believe I found this. I didn't think I had any date or time...but....:

Joegolf68
Time of Order: 2/16/2004 1:41:14 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1347x


Posted by: cptkleid

Here is another for the list.

cptkleid
Time of Order: 1/19/2004 2:10:43 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1282X


Posted by: andrewket

I got this in email:

Your HD DVR order with ValueElectronics is number 269!

No documents to sign, however. Did the docs come seperately for everyone else?

-Andrew


Posted by: pcdoc

Here's another:

Date: 2/8/2004
Type: Email
Num.: 13352


Posted by: tarman

Time of Order: 2/3/2004 8:06:07 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 13274

Note:02/03/04 and 08:06:07 [should have waited 3min 3sec for 08:09:10 :-]


Posted by: sfoguy1

Robert,

I would like to do whatever email exchanges are required to receive confirmation of my official place in line , as well as the required communication for payment/shipping of the HD DVR when the time is appropriate, but I don't think VE has my current email address. My email address changed after I pre-ordered and I called VE recently to update it, but I can't tell if they got the info. I just want to make sure that you can contact me when it's time to sign any forms for payment & shipping.

May I say the obvious... Judging by what has transpired over the last couple of weeks in conjunction with the release of this product, you have the patience of a saint!!

Thanks...


Posted by: HofstraJet

For the sake of completeness, let me throw my info in as well (though it is pretty obvious where I stand in the pecking order)

Time of Order: 1/19/2004 5:16:04 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12842

Great job Doug. Keep those socks on. ;)


Posted by: cheridave

Just checking in!!!!

Dave


Posted by: ethan

quote:
Originally posted by sfoguy1
May I say the obvious... Judging by what has transpired over the last couple of weeks in conjunction with the release of this product, you have the patience of a saint!!


Here, here!


Posted by: duffin

Time of Order: 1/30/2004
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 1317x


Posted by: aejanis

Not one post yet today....now that everyone in the top 300-350 has firm data on their position things are slowing down.

Now if only I knew if I was 400, 500 or 600...

I am some what disappointed to learn that I might be more in the 400's because when I ordered I was pretty sure I was in the low-mid 300 range (because of the updates Robert was posting on the fly). But at this point all I care about is getting one sooner then my buddy that works at Tweeter.


Posted by: SteveWinNJ

FYI: I should be #301, but haven't received an email with the official number yet. So don't lose hope that you haven't made the 350 cutoff..if there is one anymore. BTW, my order date/time was 1/19, 12:33am, order number 1277*.


Posted by: aaronwt

No firm data yet for me. I should be around 330 to 350 judging by dswallows list. Hopefully I'll get an email this week and find out. If not I'll have to fax my papers again.


Posted by: aejanis

quote:
Originally posted by SteveWinNJ
....don't lose hope that you haven't made the 350 cutoff..if there is one anymore. BTW, my order date/time was 1/19, 12:33am, order number 1277*.



There are just over 60 people on Doug's list between #300 and my name.

So I am at LEAST 370...and more likely the low to mid 400's since it is fact that not everyone has submitted their order # to Doug (and this thread).


Posted by: dswallow

It seems fairly accurate to follow the order numbers. I guess there's enough phone orders offsetting the non-HD-unit online orders that it's keeping things relatively close.

Using that method, for instance, puts the order that actually is #291 around #280. So it would appear phone orders and maybe multiple-unit orders are actually over-compensating for non-HD-unit orders made online.


So, my predictions...

aejanis ~#520
aaronwt ~#499
SteveWinNJ ~#301


Posted by: aejanis

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow


So, my predictions...

aejanis ~#520
aaronwt ~#499
SteveWinNJ ~#301


Wow...500's. :eek:


Posted by: aaronwt

AHHHHHH!!! 499!?!?!?!?!? If I would have just seen the preorder info a few days earlier.


Posted by: aejanis

There must have been a FLOOD of orders in last days of the pre-order.

Too bad the order form didn't have the ability to tell you how many orders had been taken @ that time. Maybe Robert could do that next time (if he ever wants/has a next time ;) ). It would save him the headaches I am sure he has been having with getting people their place in line.....and how hard would it be really?! Just a simple "inventory" type backended shopping cart is all that is needed. Set it up with 350 units in "[pre-order] inventory" for the pre-order. :confused:

Basically the only reason I pre-ordered was with the hopes that I would be in the first 350. Had I known there was no way I would have even been close...well I would have waited for things to settle down a bit.

In the end I know I will get it...just not in the first (or second or maybe even the third) wave like I had been expecting.


Posted by: madpoet

Well the other obvious preorder advantage was the $100 off :)


Posted by: SteveWinNJ

Also, Robert still seems confident we will ALL get our units by the end of April, including everyone who pre-ordered up until a day or so ago! I believe Robert is the "under promise and over deliver" type merchant, and that we all will be more concerned about upgrading, rather than getting, our units in the next month or so! :D


Posted by: aejanis

quote:
Originally posted by madpoet
Well the other obvious preorder advantage was the $100 off :)

That was not a selling point for me...the selling point was that I would maybe get it the first week it was out. $100.00 :rolleyes: not something that is going to make or brake a deal on something bleeding edge like this.

Watching Robert cut into his profits (or any dealer, car dealer on down to the local donut shop) doesn't put a smile on my face. I just want it delivered before the GP can get it at their local BB or CC.

EDIT: I only put down $25.00. Robert supports us here @ TC and AVS, I am returning the favor and helping to support his bottom line.


Posted by: madpoet

$100 is $100. I'm not going to sneeze at it :). I preordered mine fairly late in the game (last week) and did it not because of the money, but because of the time that Wendy at VE spent going over my requirements and setting me up with a good deal. I appreciated her talking to me several times over the course of a day, and it was that service from VE that made me preorder.

But I do like having an extra $100 :).


Posted by: wilsonjd

Time of Order: 1/16/2004 5:09:18 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12557

position # 83


Posted by: slocko

Hi Madpoet,

How is that problem coming along with the Hitachi and the engineers?


Posted by: Y0SHI

quote:
Originally posted by aejanis
Watching Robert cut into his profits (or any dealer, car dealer on down to the local donut shop) doesn't put a smile on my face.


Yes, Robert is cutting into his bottom line on each unit by offering the discount, however, I am sure that the quantity he is selling more than makes up for it overall. I don't think Robert made the pre-order discount offer simply out of the kindness of his heart (although he is surely a kind man). It was most likely an excellent business decision as well.


Posted by: BillF

Anyone ever heard of volume discounts?:)


Posted by: slocko

10 years from now they will be interviewing us, asking where we were when he heard about the HD-Tivo preorder :)


Posted by: madpoet

Heh, not so well Slocko. But I am suspecting more and more that it is Comcast, and not Hitachi, who is at fault.


Posted by: videoholic

ANyone else preordering? I just called and they are guessing early May if I order now. Should I just go ahead and preorder or wait till it comes closer and see who else jumps into the pre-order game?


Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by videoholic
ANyone else preordering? I just called and they are guessing early May if I order now. Should I just go ahead and preorder or wait till it comes closer and see who else jumps into the pre-order game?
If they still offer the chance to cancel if you can get it elsewhere earlier, I see no downside. ;)


Posted by: videoholic

True, but do we have to prove that we got it elsewhere for cheaper or can we just cancel if we buy it elsewhere for any price?


Posted by: HofstraJet

Anybody want to place a bet on what BruceL's order number is? :D


Posted by: BruceL

Hello Hofstra - would like to know myself - have not gotten an email from VE yet (sent my info by email a week ago) - my guess is 1 more that he gets in his first two allotments (351?)

Bruce


Posted by: HofstraJet

I was actually referring to your real order number - not your place in line. :) Take a look at who's above and below you. The cat's out of the bag. :D


Posted by: randyth

I hereby predict that I am lucky order #350.


Posted by: Stuigi

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
So, my predictions...

aejanis ~#520
aaronwt ~#499
SteveWinNJ ~#301


I shall now forever call you Swami!

Great job Doug


Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by videoholic
True, but do we have to prove that we got it elsewhere for cheaper or can we just cancel if we buy it elsewhere for any price?
The offer is based on getting it sooner.

If you also could get it cheaper, he'd match the price, but if he couldn't deliver yet, you could still get it elsewhere and cancel your order.

From http://www.valueelectronics.com/avsTC.htm:

quote:
5. All orders are final and I will refund 100% of the money, upon request, only if you can purchase the HD-DVR250 anywhere else sooner than I can ship.

6. I will also price match any legitimate competitors price, or even my own lower price, assuming they can also ship that day, but only up to the day that I actually ship your order.



Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by HofstraJet
I was actually referring to your real order number - not your place in line. :) Take a look at who's above and below you. The cat's out of the bag. :D
But his time was either a guess or based on when he posted here saying he ordered, so it's possible he's actually before your order. The odds might be good he is, since most people posted within minutes of placing their order... but it's not a bet I'd probably be willing to take. ;)


Posted by: BruceL

My order # is 12841 - I posted it a while back but Doug must have missed it. I did get a PM from Robert - I am "just over" the 350 count but Robert says I should ship 1st week of April.

Now what to do? If it is shipped from NY, I am only 2 days UPS, however, if he ships from CA it is 5 or 6 days. Hopefully as we near the ship date, we will know where they will ship from - if from CA, I would want to upgrade to 2nd day.

Bruce


Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by BruceL
My order # is 12841 - I posted it a while back but Doug must have missed it. I did get a PM from Robert - I am "just over" the 350 count but Robert says I should ship 1st week of April.

Now what to do? If it is shipped from NY, I am only 2 days UPS, however, if he ships from CA it is 5 or 6 days. Hopefully as we near the ship date, we will know where they will ship from - if from CA, I would want to upgrade to 2nd day.
Hofstrajet... see! Good thing I wouldn't take that bet!


Posted by: LarryInAz

quote:
Originally posted by BruceL

Now what to do? If it is shipped from NY, I am only 2 days UPS, however, if he ships from CA it is 5 or 6 days. Hopefully as we near the ship date, we will know where they will ship from - if from CA, I would want to upgrade to 2nd day.

Bruce


Bruce,
As mentioned earlier in this "little" thread, if sent from Ca you'll actually get it earlier than if the units were first sent to NY and then sent out vs the units going from the Left to the Right coast.


Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by LarryInAz
Bruce,
As mentioned earlier in this "little" thread, if sent from Ca you'll actually get it earlier than if the units were first sent to NY and then sent out vs the units going from the Left to the Right coast.
The point is to get the unit early. Not to get it earlier than we otherwise would have gotten it. ;)

I'm in a similar position.

I chose UPS Ground because it's 1 day service from Robert's place of business. I want it next day. If it's shipping from California or thereabouts, I'll pay for next-day air shipping, but there's no point in wasting the money for next-day air shipping when UPS Ground was going to be next day anyway.


Posted by: gem

I'm sure that Robert is aware of the dilemma that will be created by changing the shipping location. Being in Southern California I would hope that I can change the shipping to ground and save the money.
All I ask is that when Robert makes the final arrangements, we are given enough time to change the shipping method if necessary.


Posted by: chilidip_tivo

Perhaps we can wish for a W->E tailwind to push things along.

(gratuitous post simply to bump my small post count) :>


Posted by: borghe

I haven't seen anyone above #300 post, so I guess I will be the first... #328...


Posted by: PJO1966

Even if he is shipping from San Diego, I'm still going to stick with overnight, even though I am in Los Angeles. If I was concerned about saving money I would have waited to order. The $100 discount we're getting more than makes up for the cost of overnight shipping. I just want it.


Posted by: oosik77

I paid for 2nd day but from CA it just takes 1 day to AZ. BUT since the units don't have to go all the way out east first, by truck no doubt, I'm more than willing to just leave the freight charge as it is. Whatever gets it here the quickest.

Just my 2 cents, your mileage may vary.


Posted by: TreoFred

Hi everyone,

Long time lurker, first time poster blah blah blah.
Not many things to say except my order information for you Doug, if you want to keep on updating that little list of yours:

Time of Order: 1/28/2004 4:29:20 PM
Order ID: 13137

Cheers :D


Posted by: rttrek

quote:
Originally posted by chilidip_tivo
Perhaps we can wish for a W->E tailwind to push things along.

There's *always* a W->E wind. It's called the jet stream. :rolleyes:


Posted by: rvaniwaa

quote:
Originally posted by rttrek
There's *always* a W->E wind. It's called the jet stream. :rolleyes:

Take a look at http://squall.sfsu.edu/crws/jetstream.html if you are interested. Looks like it is running mostly NW to SE right now. Hopefully it will shift in the next 1.5-2 weeks! :-) http://www.weatherimages.org/data/imag192.html gives some more images and also shows that it does not always run W->E, sometimes, it is N->S and even somewhat Eastwards at times (of course, those are forcasts).

--Ron


Posted by: bushead

hello, haven't checked this thread for a while, but here is my info to add to the list...

Time of Order: 1/20/2004 8:48:32 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12883


Posted by: MichaelK

quote:
Originally posted by borghe
I haven't seen anyone above #300 post, so I guess I will be the first... #328...



oh no looks like the sequence is slipping faster than the order numbers! I need it to be the other way around slightly to get in the first 350.

Borghe- care to say what your order number is so we can tell exactly?

And did you have to ask or did you get an unsolicited email with your place in line?


Posted by: bushead

borghe 127xx 1/19/2004 9:41:24 AM


Posted by: bigpuma

quote:
Originally posted by chilidip_tivo

(gratuitous post simply to bump my small post count) :>


that is too wordy, just put:

+1

we all know what it means. :D


Posted by: randyth

quote:
Originally posted by borghe
I haven't seen anyone above #300 post, so I guess I will be the first... #328...


...further bolstering my prediction that I am order #350. :)


Posted by: Continuum37

I have the following order:
Time of Order: 1/19/2004 4:50:47 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12837

Unfortunately, due to some personal circumstances (damn IRS) I would like to get out of my order. I have $100 down, so anyone wanting my place in line, please PM me, and hopefully we could get you to take over my order.


Posted by: borghe

I had to ask.. I was getting nervous that I wouldn't fall within the 350.. he said I should be receiving an email either today or tomorrow, for those that are patient enough to wait..


Posted by: dswallow

Order listing moved, for convenience, to http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...331#post1800331


Posted by: KCWolfPck

quote:
Originally posted by Continuum37
I have the following order:
Time of Order: 1/19/2004 4:50:47 PM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12837

Unfortunately, due to some personal circumstances (damn IRS) I would like to get out of my order. I have $100 down, so anyone wanting my place in line, please PM me, and hopefully we could get you to take over my order.


See what happens when you try to spend money you don't yet have.


Posted by: JLWINE

quote:
Originally posted by gem
I'm sure that Robert is aware of the dilemma that will be created by changing the shipping location. Being in Southern California I would hope that I can change the shipping to ground and save the money.
All I ask is that when Robert makes the final arrangements, we are given enough time to change the shipping method if necessary.



Correct me if I am wrong, but Robert isn't changing anything. Many assumed he would ship from his home location--but did he ever say that was the case. I know many companies including the one I work for will drop ship from completely different locations.

I too assumed that he would ship from NJ when I choose regular delivery (which would take two days in my case) but I don't think it is accurate to say he has changed anything--unless there is something I'm missing.


Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by JLWINE
Correct me if I am wrong, but Robert isn't changing anything. Many assumed he would ship from his home location--but did he ever say that was the case. I know many companies including the one I work for will drop ship from completely different locations.

I too assumed that he would ship from NJ when I choose regular delivery (which would take two days in my case) but I don't think it is accurate to say he has changed anything--unless there is something I'm missing.
I don't think he ever said he was shipping from his business, but he never said he wasn't, and the terminology of "we expect to receive the first shipment of XX units" does have an implication.

So far, I've not really seen anyone complaining about it; only wanting to know for sure so they can adjust their shipping method in time accordingly. ;)

(BTW, they're in NY, not NJ)


Posted by: btwyx

Has Robert actually confirmed he's shipping from SoCal?

I havn't actually seen anything from him which said he was, I thought I'd seen things which said he wasn't.

Would Robert care to chip in here?


Posted by: JohnTivo

I actually emailed Wendy about changing my shipping if VE was shipping the first batch from California. I haven't heard back from her yet... leads me to believe the shipping plans are not yet finalized.


Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by btwyx
Has Robert actually confirmed he's shipping from SoCal?

I havn't actually seen anything from him which said he was, I thought I'd seen things which said he wasn't.

Would Robert care to chip in here?
The last I've heard is he was waiting for word from DirecTV if they could permit him to take delivery of them immediately after they clear customs. I'm sure he'll tell us when he has an answer one way or the other.


Posted by: DTV TiVo Dealer

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
The last I've heard is he was waiting for word from DirecTV if they could permit him to take delivery of them immediately after they clear customs. I'm sure he'll tell us when he has an answer one way or the other.

Correct.


Posted by: videoholic

Videoholic 13787 3/9/2004 3:33:04 PM


Posted by: scottchez

V.E. is great!

Just switched from Dishnetwork, lost all CBS and Viacom channels today.

I just ordered a SD Tivo, two regulars , and Pre-ordered the HD Tivo.

I also posted on two other forums about how good of deal it is for the many others that want to switch today. Bet the phone lines get busy at V.E. over the next few days Thanks to Viacom.

I checked around at 4 other Web Dealers and 2 stores.

Vaule E is the best in price and there people know what they are talking about.

Shoping around today . . . .

One online retailer did not even know what a HD Tivo was and had to take a message to call me back (they never did call back).

One wanted $1199 for a HD Tivo Pre Order

One would not promise any price on the HD Tivo.

One said they were only taking names for call backs when they come in.

One said the Tivo can record HD already (guess which store?)


Posted by: JLWINE

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow

(.....BTW, they're in NY, not NJ)



What's one letter amongst friends. :D


Posted by: JohnF

If Robert ships from California everyone should benefit by not requiring the ground transit from California to NY. With all the discussion about changing the shipping method and the amount of work that will create for VE, I wouldn't be surprised if Robert nixes the whole idea.

Why not just leave it alone?

John


Posted by: KCWolfPck

Date: 1/16/2004
Time: 1:05:49 PM
12499
#23


Posted by: n8thegr8

Don't know which number I am, but here's my info for the thread:

Time of Order: 1/22/2004 12:17:23 AM
Order Type: Email
Order ID: 12961


Posted by: tomr

quote:
Originally posted by JLWINE
Correct me if I am wrong, but Robert isn't changing anything. Many assumed he would ship from his home location--but did he ever say that was the case. I know many companies including the one I work for will drop ship from completely different locations.


I certainly wouldn't speak for Robert but I'm guessing this pre-order blew him away and he didn't expect such an overwhelming response. He has now put his reputation (which is excellent) to the test with such a large undertaking. He wants to make sure this goes without a hitch and if going to CA. for whatever reason expedites this order he is making a sound business decision.


Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by scottchez
Just switched from Dishnetwork, lost all CBS and Viacom channels today.
Sorry for the trouble you guys had to go through today, but you will not regret the TiVo-based DVR's you're now going to be using. They are so much more effective in helping you manage your television watching, it'll make you wonder why you ever thought Dish Network had a PVR. ;)


Posted by: btwyx

quote:
Originally posted by DTV TiVo Dealer
"The last I've heard is he was waiting for word from DirecTV if they could permit him to take delivery of them immediately after they clear customs. I'm sure he'll tell us when he has an answer one way or the other."

Correct.
At least I know now that that the answer is not known. It can be helpful to know what you don't know.

I'll be very :) :) :) if it does ship from SoCal.


Posted by: JEbbesen

quote:
Originally posted by scottchez
V.E. is great!

I just ordered a SD Tivo, two regulars , and Pre-ordered the HD Tivo.



I can never understand why anyone would order a non-tivo receiver unless they're in a can't afford to situation.


Posted by: slocko

I think so that Robert can be fair to the east and west coast, he should ship from central mountain time :D


Posted by: mercurial

quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Sorry for the trouble you guys had to go through today, but you will not regret the TiVo-based DVR's you're now going to be using. They are so much more effective in helping you manage your television watching, it'll make you wonder why you ever thought Dish Network had a PVR. ;)


Amen. I made the switch long ago and have never regretted it. In fact, the only reason I could pre-order the HD TiVo was because my wife likes it so much she didn't think watching HDTV was worthwhile without it!

:eek:


Posted by: mercurial

quote:
Originally posted by JEbbesen
I can never understand why anyone would order a non-tivo receiver unless they're in a can't afford to situation.


Hmmm... Additional basic receivers free, additional TiVo receivers 100-150/each. And then there's the issue of having to run the second cable if you want to use it to the fullest and the likelihood these may be for rooms where only occasional "background" TV viewing is done... I can understand it.


Posted by: madpoet

quote:
Originally posted by JEbbesen
I can never understand why anyone would order a non-tivo receiver unless they're in a can't afford to situation.


I did the same, and will explain why. The SD Tivo was a $39 upgrade charge. The two recievers were free. And while I wait for my HD Tivo, they get me the 2 lines installed into the room that I need :). When the HD tivo comes, the SD version goes upstairs to my bedroom and the 2 normal receivers get deactivated.

-MP


Posted by: RxMan

Did Robert change the $100 off when pre-ordering? I know a $100 deposit is still required, but the website doesn't mention $100 off of the $999 price. Please tell me this isn't gone now.


Posted by: dswallow

quote:
Originally posted by RxMan
Did Robert change the $100 off when pre-ordering? I know a $100 deposit is still required, but the website doesn't mention $100 off of the $999 price. Please tell me this isn't gone now.
Use the link at the top of the preorder list in this thread... that offer of up to $100 off is only for forum members, so you won't find it by going through his regular web site.


Posted by: PJO1966

That's only if you go to the main homepage. If you go to http://www.valueelectronics.com/avsTC.htm it's still there.


*edit* You're too quick for me Doug!


Posted by: rvaniwaa

quote:
Originally posted by slocko
I think so that Robert can be fair to the east and west coast, he should ship from central mountain time :D


Now that is the most sensible suggestion I have heard in a long time!!!! How about it Robert? Denver is probably the largest mountain standard hub available and, by coincidence, not that far from Colorado Springs. In fact, I may just have to come up and 'help' you ready the packages for shipment! :-)


Posted by: RxMan

Wow. You guys are fast.


Posted by: Korkle

I'm in Dallas -- East/West.... it's all the same to me ... JUST GET IT TO ME!


Posted by: stealthie1

I'm more anxious to hear how many HD-D*TiVos Robert is going to be allocated from the first batch. I agree with a lot of you, shipping from San Diego is a great thing, a bonus for those that get their HD-D*TiVo's from the first batch. There is no way that anyone else could come close to that kind of service if Robert is able to do it. I know I sure appreciate Robert and VE!

Just think the first batch could be on the way in 3 weeks!


Posted by: JEbbesen

quote:
Originally posted by mercurial
Hmmm... Additional basic receivers free, additional TiVo receivers 100-150/each. And then there's the issue of having to run the second cable if you want to use it to the fullest and the likelihood these may be for rooms where only occasional "background" TV viewing is done... I can understand it.


Mercurial,

My take: they have all the DTivo's you would want for 99.99 + tax.

For my bedroom I added a DTivo but only use 1 line in (only have 8 lines out and all but 7 were in use) which is no worse than a regular receiver. I get the same viewing as a regular receiver but also the ability to time shift making the whole experience much more valuable to me. Again, if the added charge to purchase is significant to you then I could appreciate your logic. To each their own.

I have 2 dtivo's in my family room, 1 in my bsmt and 1 in my bedroom. If I were to try to remove any one of them I would be in a fight with my family.

What's Background TV viewing?


Posted by: scottchez

"I just ordered a SD Tivo, two regulars , and Pre-ordered the HD Tivo."

Yes that is my plan. Get the lines all ran, the two regulars will be in the room of the new HD Tivo, then once the HDTivo is here and after the Two regulars have been up for 30 days, they get turned off and used from emergency spares.



The line for the new HD Tivo will be all preped and ready. I will just plug it in.


Posted by: JEbbesen

quote:
Originally posted by madpoet
I did the same, and will explain why. The SD Tivo was a $39 upgrade charge. The two recievers were free. And while I wait for my HD Tivo, they get me the 2 lines installed into the room that I need :). When the HD tivo comes, the SD version goes upstairs to my bedroom and the 2 normal receivers get deactivated.

-MP


I just (January) sold an extra SD Tivo on ebay for $289. In your case I would have paid the $39 upcharge for the SD Tivo's and sold them when I was done. I would bet the farm you would come out ahead in the end and have some $$ left over to help pay for the HD Tivo.

I went with the 99.99 HD promo at DirecTV a few months ago, I will be selling my HD receiver on ebay shortly and use the proceeds to help with the costs of the HD Tivo I've ordered.

In any event, as a former echostar subscriber you will not be sorry you switched. I only wished I'd switched sooner.


Posted by: dalepm

My order number is 12554 . I ordered around 4:4? PM on 1/16/2004. I was told I am in postion #80.


Posted by: mercurial

quote:
Originally posted by JEbbesen
Mercurial,

My take: they have all the DTivo's you would want for 99.99 + tax.

For my bedroom I added a DTivo but only use 1 line in (only have 8 lines out and all but 7 were in use) which is no worse than a regular receiver. I get the same viewing as a regular receiver but also the ability to time shift making the whole experience much more valuable to me. Again, if the added charge to purchase is significant to you then I could appreciate your logic. To each their own.

I have 2 dtivo's in my family room, 1 in my bsmt and 1 in my bedroom. If I were to try to remove any one of them I would be in a fight with my family.

What's Background TV viewing?


Well, $100/per room doesn't make sense to me in rooms that don't get much TV viewing in them like our guest room or MBR. I'd consider putting a TiVo in there if the price is right but we do almost all our TV viewing in the Family Room or Rec Room where there are TiVos. I can get one $99 TiVo from D* installed per year (which I may do for our MBR) but if I go on-line to get a second for the guest room, for an existing sub that's over about $140 installed if I recall. Perhaps there are better deals. Or I can go to BB/CC/etc. and get it for $99 without installation. That doesn't make economic sense to me unless there was more viewing time in those rooms.

Background TV Viewing:

-Putting on Nick/Disney for 10-15 minutes so our 2 1/2 year old will sit still long enough for us to grab a shower.
-Putting something on for background noise while cleaning up or cooking in the kitchen.
-Putting something on for background noise while I read (since for some reason these days I fall asleep when I try to do that in quiet room, probably because of said 2 1/2 year old).

All of these things wouldn't require a TiVo at all.


Posted by: slocko

another advantage of having tivos even in hardly used rooms, is backup. you never know when your drive might head south and being able to at least watch your favorite show finale on aonther tivo is priceless.


Posted by: mercurial

quote:
Originally posted by slocko
another advantage of having tivos even in hardly used rooms, is backup. you never know when your drive might head south and being able to at least watch your favorite show finale on aonther tivo is priceless.


Having to maintain a SP list on additional TiVos would be a real headache. If they ever give us HMO like features and include a more centralized management (i.e. web-based) then that might be attractive. I have enough friends with TiVos and the same SPs, I'm not too worried about getting a taped copy if push comes to shove. Obviously, YMMV.

(Anyone else think they should add TiVo and several other common terms to the base dictionary for the spell checker?)


Posted by: TallGuy

Extra SD receivers would be more plentiful at my house except for the stupid $5.00 monthly fee per receiver...grumble grumble. Not sure my guest rooms (or guests) are worth $120.00 a year. Gotta save the pennies for HD toys for me. Backfeeds over coax from receivers in other rooms work almost well enough.


Posted by: LarryInAz

quote:
Originally posted by JLWINE
Correct me if I am wrong, but Robert isn't changing anything. Many assumed he would ship from his home location--but did he ever say that was the case. I know many companies including the one I work for will drop ship from completely different locations.

I too assumed that he would ship from NJ when I choose regular delivery (which would take two days in my case) but I don't think it is accurate to say he has changed anything--unless there is something I'm missing.


You are correct - as a matter of fact when I recently ordered my original 3 room D* setup the equipment came from Arkansas and not NY.


Posted by: stugrief

2 things:
  1. Tweeter: I visited Tweeter, a New England audio/video chain today. They claimed--after checking their system for a few minutes--that they'll be receiving their first shipment of HD DirecTiVos on April 15. Anybody else hear this?
  2. HD upgrade deal: I've seen a lot of posts about a $99 HD upgrade deal for loyal (>2 year, I think) subscribers. What is this deal and how does it work? I see nothing about it on the DirecTV website...

Thanks!


Posted by: LarryInAz

quote:
Originally posted by stugrief

[*]HD upgrade deal: I've seen a lot of posts about a $99 HD upgrade deal for loyal (>2 year, I think) subscribers. What is this deal and how does it work? I see nothing about it on the DirecTV website...
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Thanks!


For the $99 deal check this thread out.


Posted by: stugrief

Thanks, Larry. I just called DirecTV. The CSR I spoke with insisted that "they do not now, nor have they ever offered the HD upgrade for $99." She offered me $50 off the $399, but that's it. I asked her if she could check with somebody else to be sure since there are apparently many people that have received this deal. She simply repeated her original line like a robot. Maddening that she knew nothing about it and was unwilling to check with some one else. Oh well. Any ideas?




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