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American Idol 2/24 & 2/25
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Posted by: Chmeeee

Wow, what an improvement from last week! I had a really hard time choosing who to vote for, but I think that Amy and LaToya were the best, with Charly right up there too. Anybody else think that the worst from this week were better than the best from last week? I am beginning to wonder if the producers did this on purpose, perhaps to add more drama or to ensure a good selection for the Wildcard show. So who did everybody else vote for?

Posted by: jsmeeker

This group this week was FAR better than the last group.

Posted by: NJChris

Who was the 2nd to last girl? They were all gushing over her and I thought she was so off-key!!

Latoya was the best. Great control and power in her voice.

Posted by: niea_7

Amy and Latoya were my favorites. I don't think Amy's pink hair fits with the image they're looking for, but her voice was great.

Posted by: faerie

Latoya was awesome!! Amy should get in there too, in my opinion. I hate almost all Celine Dion songs but that is one of the only ones I like and she did a great job with it. I didn't like the Bulgarian girl (Leah I think?) and they all liked her... it just sounded... off? to me. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I too didn't understand all the rave reviews of her.

Posted by: Spire

quote:
Originally posted by faerie
Latoya was awesome!! Amy should get in there too, in my opinion. I hate almost all Celine Dion songs but that is one of the only ones I like and she did a great job with it.

You might be relieved to hear that All By Myself is not really a Celine Dion song. It's an Eric Carmen song from 1975.

Celine Dion does a lot of covers.

Posted by: faerie

quote:
Originally posted by Spire
You might be relieved to hear that All By Myself is not really a Celine Dion song. It's an Eric Carmen song from 1975.

Celine Dion does a lot of covers.

Mostly I just meant that I don't like HOW Celine Dion sings her songs. Didn't know that it was a cover though, I was born in 1981, before Eric Carmen's version I guess.

Forgot to mention also that when I hear All by Myself, I can't help but think of Bridget Jones's Diary and Renee Zellwegger singing that song off-key and half drunk =)

Posted by: bicker

Definitely a major improvement over last week. 1,3,5,7 and 8 were all better than the best even from Week One, even.

Posted by: mask2343

Jon Peter's voice is really interesting. I'm tired of watching the power balad singers every year, so I voted for him. I got through too easy, so I guess he doesn't have a chance. Too bad. He's one guy I could listen too sing for an entire CD, just because it is different.

Posted by: drew2k

I agree with everyone: Amy and Latoya were the best and should go through to the next round.

quote:
Originally posted by bicker
Definitely a major improvement over last week. 1,3,5,7 and 8 were all better than the best even from Week One, even.

In other words, all the ladies! :D

The pen salesman was a let down, and Eric Yoder was kind of freaking me out for being Clay without the big ears and weird hair. Creepy.

Now - here's my theory on why last week's show sucked so much: The producers are manipulating the competition to ensure the talent THEY want makes it through, and to give Simon a chance to rip on someone when we get to the final 12. Just think about it - if the Singers von Crap from last week were spread out among the four early rounds, instead of concentrated in one show, none would have been voted through. Now, two of them had to be, and they're the quick easy targets for elimination when we get to the final 12, giving the pre-selected favorites more exposure and time to build up a fan base.

Posted by: Skittles

quote:
Originally posted by Spire
You might be relieved to hear that All By Myself is not really a Celine Dion song. It's an Eric Carmen song from 1975.

Celine Dion does a lot of covers.

I'm confused. I thought she sang "The Power of Love"? :confused:

Posted by: BelugaWhale

Was Amy the one with the pink hair?

I have to say that I'm not a huge fan, yet. She has a gorgeous voice in the lower register, but it was so thin when she was singing in the higher register. I think she has great potential and energy, but needs more vocal training to develop into a rounded out singer.

Still, she's pretty good. And beats out last week's competition...

Posted by: Redleg

quote:
Originally posted by mask2343
Jon Peter's voice is really interesting. I'm tired of watching the power ballad singers every year, so I voted for him. I got through too easy, so I guess he doesn't have a chance. Too bad. He's one guy I could listen too sing for an entire CD, just because it is different.

I agree. His voice has some character, and I was looking forward to hearing him sing, but his performance was disappointing last night. It seems doubtful he'll get the #2 slot.

If Latoya has more songs like that in her repertoire, she could definitely go the distance.

Posted by: FuzzyDolly

My wife voted for Jon Peter many times. If you listened to the bit he did while practicing, he's very good. You could see from the look on his face during the performance, that he was very nervous. Next week is the one I'm waiting for. The red headed kid (John?) is from my town. I hope everyone will give him lots of votes!

Posted by: faerie

I didn't like Jon Peter because he wasn't enunciating. I couldn't understand several of the lines from his song and that's a big pet peeve of mine.

Posted by: dschwab

I also did not get why the judges were gushing over Leah either. Something did seem off, and I think part of it may be her accent. She doesn't have a very strong accent, but you can hear it coming through during her singing, where transitions between some words aren't very smooth.

I'm also not sure that Simon's comments were meant to give the praise that Leah and most viewers took them to be. He seemed to get cut off at the end of his statement, and considering his opening comparison to a torn dress, it seemed to be a bit of an underhanded compliment at best.

I agree that LaToya was definitely the strongest last night and of this season so far, although saying that her performance was the best of any American Idol is a bit too strong of a statement. I believe part of her strength last night was that it was so unexpected. I'd probably rank pink-haired Amy 2nd, although I don't think she nailed her performance and sounded a bit off at some points. It's a shame that last week's group even exists as probably 6 or 7 of this week's group were stronger than anyone last week. The Hawaiian guy's performance last night was just horrible. I was actually laughing out loud, the song was just terrible for this type of contest.

Posted by: cpalma

Tiny Dancer is one of my favorite songs--he destroyed it. I agree he needed better enunciation.

Anyone else think the Bulgarian singer took Simon's comments the wrong way. He said, "potentially" the best singer. Meaning IMO that she's young and inexperienced and has potential to be great. She took it to mean that she was the best singer they (the judges) had heard during the whole competition.

LaToya was fantastic and will probably go the distance.

Posted by: YCantAngieRead

I missed most all of the first thirty minutes, but I have to say, I did not like Latoya at all. I thought she was very, very sharp on some of her runs. I was shocked when the judges went ga-ga over her. She lacked personality-although the one positive thing I will say about her is she picked a hella wicked hard song, which was brave.

This show just annoys me. Generally I agree with Simon-although not always. But last night I hardly agreed with any of them. It's frustrating.

Posted by: mask2343

Enunciation doesn't bother me sometimes. I'll go years without knowing what Eddie Vedder is saying. Then when I learn the words, I don't like the song anymore. But isn't everyone tired of "Whitney Houston kareokee" performances?

Posted by: LoadStar

Agreed - "Tiny Dancer" was AWFUL. Seriously oversung, in my opinion - I don't get the comparison to Clay, at least for that particular performance. Maybe in general, yeah, but that performance was Lance Corporal Asshat (Joshua Gracin) through and through.

I still say week 1 was better, but this was definitely an improvement from last week. (ANYTHING would be an improvement from last week.)

Posted by: LlamaLarry

"Tiny Dancer" came across as though Mushmouth was on AI last night.
:(

Eric Yoder did not really remind me of Clay too much - until he gave me the Clay-gasm face towards the end of his song. Blech!

Posted by: DLiquid

Since Latoya is from Oakland, I was rooting for her before she even started, but man did she blow me away with that performance. She is so much better than most of the other contestants, it's hard to believe the others made it this far. The Hawaiian guy? The twins from last week? Almost all of the finalists from last season? They're just not in the same league. I just hope this performance wasn't a fluke.

Posted by: doom1701

My wife and I both agreed that Amy and Latoya were the best of the night. I thought Amy had a solid performance, yet still needs some work. But best of all she has some personality.

Latoya had me wondering when she started. She seemed a little off key, and the stuttering on some of the words (when she would need to get her voice to a higher tone during a word, she would basically stutter the note, instead of transitioning smoothly) threw me off. But when she hit the middle of the song, woh mamma. Could that girl carry a note.

Posted by: Turtleboy

I think Latoya and one of the guys will get through.

Even though the guy won't deserve it -- just like he didn't last week.

Posted by: Dafaso

Wow, I thought Latoya was right on. She was totally in control of her voice and I did not hear any 'off notes' at all. I'll have to listen again later. She was, by far, the best last night.

Amy has a nice voice, but I don't think she sang that song very well. "The Power Of Love" has a very powerful chorus and she sang most of it in falsetto voice. She should have sang the song in a lower key so she could really blast out those higher notes.

The Pen-salesman has an interesting personality and a nice voice but I didn't really like the arrangement used of Tiny Dancer. He should've gotten to the chorus much quicker and concentrated most of his performance on that part of the song, instead of a couple of lines or so from each section of the song.

Latoya will win hands down and it really is a matter of who will come in 2nd, and it could be any of 3 or 4 people.

Posted by: ced6

I voted for LaToya and Charly. I liked her personality and the way she sang the song - it was fun. She didn't sound as off to me as the judges said, but I was doing other things at the time, so maybe I just missed it. I agree about the 2nd to last girl - I felt that something was off.

I was also wondering, do people on the West Coast have a voting advantage over others? I guess it would hinge on this: does voting really cut off 3 hours after the show ends in your timezone, or can anyone vote until 3 hours after the show airs on the west coast? Either way though, west coasters basically have at least a hour time period during which other parts of the country aren't calling, either because they're cut off or because it's so late for them. East coasters I guess have a one hour period as well during which the next time zone isn't really calling (even though they don't actually have to wait until the end of the show to call - they are probably waiting to hear the contestants). The middle of the country has the least chance of getting through, especially when it's like the Rudy-Clay thing where phone lines became completely jammed. Does this make sense?

Posted by: DreadPirateRob

I suppose I would rank them LaToya, Amy, Charly, and Leah, in that order. No one else was even worth discussion (except for perhaps how bad they were). I still think it's a shame that all the talent has been in the 1st and 3rd shows - seems a bad mix by the judges. (Although I do like the big, football player guy - he has a great voice but chose a poor song with which to display it. The girl who made it through from Show #2? Ugh..). The top 6 from each of Shows 1 and 3 were infinitely better than nearly all of Show 2. I suppose they can come back as wild cards, but who knows...

Posted by: YCantAngieRead

Assuming that you all are right, and Latoya is the best of the entire group of 32 or however many-I wouldn't really agree, but then again, I don't really have anyone I'd put in that position...it'll be very, VERY interesting to see how well she can adapt to other styles. It's hard to predict that anyone is going to be the winner at this stage. As I understand, they have to sing a variety of styles during the show's run. I'll be interested to see how she handles it.

Although, like I said, she picked a difficult song to begin with, I'm wondering how well she can perform if they make her take out all the affected runs that are so overdone in pop these days.

Posted by: DreadPirateRob

I agree with Angie in that the early favorite (Tamyra anyone) is far from a sure shot to win. One thing the show does well is test and reward versatility - IIRC, I didn't really notice Kelly in S1 until about the 3rd or 4th episode in from the top 10, when I realized that she had nailed just about every genre to date.

As for LaToya - she clearly has a special voice. I was impressed with her control more than anything. But she also chose a great song (apparently) for her voice and style. It remains to be seen whether she can adapt to others.

One other thing I forgot from my earlier post - Tiny Dancer (which I love) is just a terrible song for this format. It's way too long and drawn-out for it to make any impact - while retaining it's uniqueness - in the short timeframe given. It would have been the worst song choice had the Hawaiian guy not chosen the song he did.

Posted by: Turtleboy

I'm glad that the Pen salesman didn't go through.

The show should be 100% women so far, but this is good enough.

I bet for the wildcard, they bring a bunch of guys in.

Posted by: drew2k

There is one guy through so far: Matt Rogers, the football player. Not exactly the best, but they had to take someone from Week 2. :rolleyes:

Posted by: dschwab

quote:
Originally posted by Turtleboy
I'm glad that the Pen salesman didn't go through.

The show should be 100% women so far, but this is good enough.

I bet for the wildcard, they bring a bunch of guys in.

Quite honestly, I don't know of any guys so far that have a shot at a wildcard. I'd imagine that Leah from week 3 will grab one of the judge's wildcard spot, and there are a few girls from week 1 that have a shot, and possibly Lisa Leuschner from week 2.

Posted by: laria

I was glad that Leah did not make it through. I thought she was AWFUL. Like, worthy of group 2. I could not see why the judges were gushing over her "potential". Man did she look like sour grapes on the couch afterward they announced the top 3, too! :)

Posted by: jsmeeker

quote:
Originally posted by Turtleboy
I'm glad that the Pen salesman didn't go through.

The show should be 100% women so far, but this is good enough.

I bet for the wildcard, they bring a bunch of guys in.

They better save room for Katie Webber.

:)

Posted by: faerie

how, how, HOW did Jon Peter make it into the final 3? Elizabeth was better than him, I thought even Leah was better than him!!

Posted by: DreadPirateRob

The one guy I actually really liked was Erskine from Group 1 - he wasn't that great in that show (another poor choice of a song), but he sang an amazing "Lately" during the Hollywood tryouts. I hope he pulls one of the wild cards.

Posted by: Turtleboy

quote:
Originally posted by dschwab
Quite honestly, I don't know of any guys so far that have a shot at a wildcard. I'd imagine that Leah from week 3 will grab one of the judge's wildcard spot, and there are a few girls from week 1 that have a shot, and possibly Lisa Leuschner from week 2.

I agree that the guys aren't good enough, but it doesn't matter.

They want cute guys in the final group for ratings.

Paula loves that Jesus guy, even though he sucks. I bet he'll be in the wildcard.

Posted by: mask2343

No way Jesus is in the wildcard. Paula liked him because she felt sorry for him. I was hoping Jon Peter would sneak in. Hopefully he'll get another chance.

What is it with America and RED HAIR? Every year we vote someone in with horrible red hair. I don't get it.

Posted by: Skittles

quote:
Originally posted by faerie
how, how, HOW did Jon Peter make it into the final 3?

I totally agree. I didn't think he'd make it to the final 3, and my jaw dropped when Ryan told him he'd made it.

But, on the plus side, Latoya and Amy made it. :)

Posted by: Turtleboy

quote:
Originally posted by mask2343
No way Jesus is in the wildcard. Paula liked him because she felt sorry for him. I was hoping Jon Peter would sneak in. Hopefully he'll get another chance.

What is it with America and RED HAIR? Every year we vote someone in with horrible red hair. I don't get it.

We'll see.

He certainly doesn't deserve it, but I think he'll be there.

I hope they bring back Scooter Girl too.

Posted by: KRS

quote:
Originally posted by faerie

Forgot to mention also that when I hear All by Myself, I can't help but think of Bridget Jones's Diary and Renee Zellwegger singing that song off-key and half drunk =)

I was reminded of the scene in Half Baked where the guy in jail is wailing that song to his soap-on-a-rope in the shower.

I can't wait until we get the chance to vote for William Hung. How pissed would Simon be if William rode the popular vote all the way to the end!

Posted by: MarkofT

quote:
Originally posted by laria
I was glad that Leah did not make it through. I thought she was AWFUL. Like, worthy of group 2. I could not see why the judges were gushing over her "potential". Man did she look like sour grapes on the couch afterward they announced the top 3, too! :)

I thought that Leah did rather well. And I would think that you would not have handled missing out on your dream as well as she did.

I certainly liked her better then Latoya, the graduate from the Whitney Houston School of Screeching.

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Posted by: laria

quote:
Originally posted by MarkofT
I thought that Leah did rather well. And I would think that you would not have handled missing out on your dream as well as she did.

Ooooh, snarky! :)

I just did not like her. Her personality rubbed me the wrong way and did not think her voice was very good at all. I thought Latoya was pretty good, but certainly not nearly as good as they were gushing over at the end of the show. Amy was my favorite, even though I wish she'd sung something else than Celine. To each his/her own!

Posted by: mask2343

Leah's parents claim to be famous singers in Hungaria (or Romania?). She acted a bit snobbish last night when she didn't make it.

Posted by: vman

The one big thing I noticed last night was that LaToya was nowhere near as good as she was the night before. I realize the difficulty of being handed a mike right after learning you are advancing, but she had a pretty big dropoff (I thought she was extremely good on Tuesday night). As others have noted, it'll be interesting to see how she does in the future.

Posted by: tsings31

quote:
Originally posted by mask2343
Leah's parents claim to be famous singers in Hungaria (or Romania?). She acted a bit snobbish last night when she didn't make it.

Yeah and she was sitting up there crying. Give me a break!! BTW, her parents were famous singers in Bulgaria.

Posted by: dschwab

Was LaToya's performance last night a different arrangement than the previous night? It didn't sound like the same exact style to me, although I admit I wasn't paying a whole lot of attention.

As far as Leah, she has seemed to me that she feels she has some sort of entitlement in this, even as far back as the rounds in Hollywood up until her pulling only the compliment out of Simon's critique and then her "sour grapes" this week. I'm sure part of that is because she has a "performance mom" and has probably been working at this for a very long time. Who wouldn't be disappointed if a lifelong dream seemingly hit a roadblock, but there is certainly a better way to handle it.

Posted by: niea_7

quote:
Originally posted by MarkofT
And I would think that you would not have handled missing out on your dream as well as she did.

Oh pu-lease. . .

The girl is only 17. She needs to spend a few quality years with a voice teacher, then come back and try again. Everybody needs training and her attitude of entitlement is absurd, but typical for someone her age. She is good for someone who has never had training but unfortunately, it's not enough to compete professionally. These "dreams" you speak of are only partly luck. The rest is hard work and really, that's what she needs right now.

Posted by: FourFourSeven

quote:
Originally posted by niea_7
Oh pu-lease. . .

The girl is only 17. She needs to spend a few quality years with a voice teacher, then come back and try again

Exactly what I said to my wife! We want to see her at age 23! I think she could be phenomenal by then, but as of now, she's not quite ready for primetime...

Posted by: jsmeeker

quote:
Originally posted by Skittles
I totally agree. I didn't think he'd make it to the final 3, and my jaw dropped when Ryan told him he'd made it.

But, on the plus side, Latoya and Amy made it. :)

Were you more shocked that John Peter was??

Posted by: Sromkie

quote:
Originally posted by drew2k
The pen salesman was a let down...

I agree. I was really looking forward to hearing him sing (as in the auditions the judges never really let him get much out before they cut him off). It was such a let down - not enunciating, poor song choice, ugh.

Posted by: Sromkie

quote:
Originally posted by jsmeeker
Were you more shocked that John Peter was??

LOL! His expression was priceless.

Posted by: Skittles

quote:
Originally posted by jsmeeker
Were you more shocked that John Peter was??

Most definitely. When they put Leah up against John Peter, I felt certain Leah had it in the bag, but when John Peter was announced as being in the Top 3, I was floored.

Posted by: jennifer

AMERICAN IDLED:
American Idol producers booted Donnie Williams from the competition on Wednesday in the wake of the aspiring singer's arrest for DUI. As we reported yesterday, the 20-year-old � who was slated to perform on next week's Idol as part of the last batch of semifinalists � was pulled over in Northern California on Monday after cops clocked his speed at 100 mph. Williams will be replaced in the competition by 23-year-old New Orleans crooner George Huff. Producers, meanwhile, welcomed Williams to "try out for the show again next season." In other Idol news, LaToya London and Amy Adams advanced to the final round on last night's show. Producers, meanwhile, invited Leah Labelle to get a grip.

Posted by: TonyD79

For once, America picked the right two.

Leah was annoying. Her manner, her voice, her garbling of words. Her mother (first AI stage mother?).

Good riddance.

Posted by: Micky

quote:
I can't wait until we get the chance to vote for William Hung. How pissed would Simon be if William rode the popular vote all the way to the end!

Did I miss something?

Posted by: KRS

quote:
Originally posted by Micky
Did I miss something?

I was referring to the wildcard vote.

Posted by: faerie

quote:
Originally posted by dschwab
Was LaToya's performance last night a different arrangement than the previous night? It didn't sound like the same exact style to me, although I admit I wasn't paying a whole lot of attention.

I think it was. I noticed quite a few more runs in last night's performance than were done previously. One hopes that this isn't the direction she's headed, otherwise I will be sorry that she was voted through. I don't understand why all these singers need to do so many runs!

Posted by: LoadStar

quote:
Originally posted by KRS
I was referring to the wildcard vote.

Hung isn't coming back as a wildcard... he's just appearing as a part of the "bad audition" special on Monday. You won't have a chance to vote for him.

Posted by: KRS

quote:
Originally posted by LoadStar
Hung isn't coming back as a wildcard... he's just appearing as a part of the "bad audition" special on Monday. You won't have a chance to vote for him.

That's too bad. There is some sort of wildcard thing where viewers can vote for people who didn't make it though, right? Does that only include people from the four groups?

Posted by: DLiquid

quote:
Originally posted by DreadPirateRob
The one guy I actually really liked was Erskine from Group 1 - he wasn't that great in that show (another poor choice of a song), but he sang an amazing "Lately" during the Hollywood tryouts. I hope he pulls one of the wild cards.

I forgot about Erskine. I really liked him in the early rounds.

When I started watching this results show, I knew that Leah wasn't going to make it into the top two. The judges liked her, but there's just something about her that's not very likeable, so I had the feeling she wasn't going to get the votes. I wonder if she even got fourth place.

Posted by: dthmj

quote:
Originally posted by KRS
That's too bad. There is some sort of wildcard thing where viewers can vote for people who didn't make it though, right? Does that only include people from the four groups?

It only includes people the producers want to include. Last year they did bring back someone pre-original 32, but the rest were from the previous 4 groups - how they choose them is anyone's guess, it was certainly not the third/fourth place finishers in each group.

And also last year the judges picked three to go into the final 12, and America choose one. So we don't really get that much of a say in the wildcard.

Posted by: KRS

I recall Seacrest talking about the Wildcard, and I could have sworn that he said something about the public being able to vote to bring anyone back, even if they didn't make it past the first audition.

If that is the case, then I expect to see Mr. Hung in there. I know I will vote for him repeatedly. My wife feels like her ~30 votes helped Amy Adams ("pinky").

Posted by: DreadPirateRob

quote:
Originally posted by faerie
. I don't understand why all these singers need to do so many runs!

No kidding - it's one of the (many) things that bugs me about today's pop/R&B music. Just sing the damn note already! I guess we can blame it on Mariah Carey et al.

Posted by: BelugaWhale

I think of doing runs in the same way I think of poetic license - don't use either until you're an expert at the basics. Unfortunately, most of the singers on AI are not yet experts enough to do the runs they attempt. They would sound so much better if they toned them down or left them out altogether.

Posted by: LoadStar

quote:
Originally posted by KRS
I recall Seacrest talking about the Wildcard, and I could have sworn that he said something about the public being able to vote to bring anyone back, even if they didn't make it past the first audition.

If that is the case, then I expect to see Mr. Hung in there. I know I will vote for him repeatedly. My wife feels like her ~30 votes helped Amy Adams ("pinky").

No, dthmj was correct... only certain contestants will be asked back. Seacrest only said that "anyone could be asked back" - and that much is true.

Why do you want him to come back anyway? He can't sing, he can't dance, he's only humorous as a sort of walking punch line.