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XFL - anyone have any games on their Tivo?
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Posted by: GameGuru

I didn't have Tivo back then and I would like to watch some of the games again. If anyone has some on their Tivo I would send some blank DVDs or VHS tapes and money for shipping if they could make me a copy. Someone here must have liked the XFL right?

Posted by: AJRitz

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Originally posted by GameGuru
Someone here must have liked the XFL right?

If you go by the XFL's ratings or by the anger many on this forum had for NBC when it replaced Pretender, Profiler, and The Others with the XFL, then I'd say NO. No one here liked the XFL. :mad: :D ;)

Posted by: mask2343

Went to an Orlando Rage game. I enjoyed it. Fans a little rowdy. If they didn't advertise the league out the ying-yang, it probably would have lasted and provided players another means of making it to the NFL. But, not, didn't have Tivo then, so I don't have any games.

Posted by: ncsercs

What's the XFL? ;)

Posted by: scottjf8

I wouldn't want to meet the person who liked it so much, they've kept it as SUID on thier Tivo all this time..

Posted by: GameGuru

I enjoyed it because it was more football. After the Super Bowl each year you just need some more football and the AFL just didn't grab me like the XFL did.

Bring back the XFL ha ha!

Posted by: TiVoPony

I really liked the scramble for the ball to decide who gets possession first. Much more interesting than a coin flip.

It went downhill from there for me though.

Pony

Posted by: thenightfly42

I liked the microphones on the refs, so that you could hear the penalty discussions. And, you can credit/blame the XFL for that overhead flying camera view that the NFL adoped.

Posted by: drjlb

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Originally posted by thenightfly42
I liked the microphones on the refs, so that you could hear the penalty discussions. And, you can credit/blame the XFL for that overhead flying camera view that the NFL adoped.

blame. definitely blame.

Posted by: marrone

I went to the last Orlando Rage game (which they should have won & gone to the million $ game, but a lousy call by the ref ruled an incomplete touchdown catch). Definitely rowdy fans, although at that point, the stadium was pretty empty!

I did like the idea of the XFL and was disappointed it only lasted one season. I thought the idea was to go for a minimum of three.

The problem, as I see it, was in marketing. They marketed to the WWF crowd, and not the football crowd. So everything they did was obnoxious.

In addition, they wouldn't televise local games (I had to watch the LA games when my local Orlando team was playing), so there wasn't much of a sense of rooting for your local team if ya couldn't see them. Then, when they decided to air an Orlando game, another game wouldn't have been shown. They could have done a "air locally if there is a local team but have a national game if there isn't anything local", but they didn't. Heck, if I remember correctly, the first game had power problems, so they flipped to the Orlando game (now why would they have announcers and cameras if they didn't intend to air it?), and apologized several times/minute that they'd flip back once the problems were solved. Heck, I'd rather keep watching the local game. At least let the local affiliate air the local game...but I guess that made too much sense :(.

Anyways, I'm sorry to see the league not with us anymore. But I am holding onto my 2 full-sized XFL footballs, one mini, and one Rage t-shirt which I don't let get dirty.

-Mike

Posted by: zaknafein

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Originally posted by marrone
The problem, as I see it, was in marketing. They marketed to the WWF crowd, and not the football crowd. So everything they did was obnoxious.
-Mike

That was my biggest issue. It could have been interesting, had the production not been so excruciatingly lame.

Posted by: Supfreak26

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Originally posted by zaknafein
That was my biggest issue. It could have been interesting, had the production not been so excruciatingly lame.

I don't think production was an issue. I think it was the horrible quality of play on the field. I only watched the first game and I just couldn't make it through that. And you are talking about a football junkie here.

And that scramble for the ball was a cool idea. Too bad a player got hurt the first time they did it.

Good Riddance to the XFL. The NFL offseason is more exciting than that league was.

Just curious though... Why do you want copies of those horrible games?

Posted by: jerobi

I went to a game!

Myself and 3999 other people packed a rain-soaked Giants Stadium. All in all I had a blast, though. It was like they were playing just for me. And the home team won 16-15 in the final seconds, if I remember correctly.

Posted by: GameGuru

The football got decent half way through the season. Remember, these teams were thrown together and had like 2 weeks of pre-season before the first game. Of course they sucked at first, they didn't have time to start clicking as a team before the first game. It did get okay later on.

I want them just to have something to remember it by. A collectors thing you know.

Posted by: SnakeEyes

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Originally posted by TiVoPony
I really liked the scramble for the ball to decide who gets possession first. Much more interesting than a coin flip.

What's funny is how the anti-McMahon media had this as one of their anti-XFL points saying it was an absurd thing and used the freak accident on the first scramble to help further this point. They either were being biased or had never actually played the game before since every team I ever played on always had the "fumble drill" in practice and others I have talked too said hte same thing.

The XFL was actually pretty good once teams had more weeks together. The league made 4 vital mistakes IMO. First was not having a longer preseason and tests to get teams cohesive and make sure the game moved as they wanted. Second was allowing the bump and run, it killed offense. Third was not using a continous clock. Fourth was overselling the idea of sex and that it would be a tougher football.

One other things I really liked, other the fumble drill, was no fair catch, one player in forward motion, which IMO should have been used more (look at Arena Football), and their OT format.

BTW.. I think I have some games on video tape. Like game one and two maybe.

Posted by: SnakeEyes

BTW.. I like the skycam.

Posted by: Supfreak26

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Originally posted by SnakeEyes
BTW.. I like the skycam.

ugh! How could you? :)

This has got to be the most annoying camera angle in any sport.

Speaking of cameras... Didn't they have camera crews running onfield between plays or during time outs or something? Seems like I remember crews being on the field at wierd times.

Posted by: marrone

Regarding lousy football...I actually liked that, to an extent. They weren't perfect, they made many mistakes. More exciting that way, I think. That's why I like college bowl over pro...in college they aren't as smoothed out as in pro where plays are executed much more smoothly.

Everyone has their preferences, though.

Posted by: SnakeEyes

quote:
Originally posted by Supfreak26
ugh! How could you? :)

This has got to be the most annoying camera angle in any sport.

Speaking of cameras... Didn't they have camera crews running onfield between plays or during time outs or something? Seems like I remember crews being on the field at wierd times.

Yes, they on field cameras. And I like the skycam for the same reason I like endzone seats should i go to football games. It's easier to see how the play develops.. see the blocking schemes, the stunts/twists, angle on the blitz... etc. Also must be from playing Madden a lot. It's not good for every single play, but definiately when it should be a run play I think it's perfect. It also looks good in widescreen/hd :)

Posted by: Supfreak26

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Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Yes, they on field cameras. And I like the skycam for the same reason I like endzone seats should i go to football games. It's easier to see how the play develops.. see the blocking schemes, the stunts/twists, angle on the blitz... etc. Also must be from playing Madden a lot. It's not good for every single play, but definiately when it should be a run play I think it's perfect. It also looks good in widescreen/hd :)

The widescreen view would be cool there.

As for endzone seats, I can't stand them. Mainly because with my luck, every time I'm in an endzone seat, the entire game is played on the opposite side of the field! :(

So lately, if I can't get between the 20's then I don't even bother with it.

All this talk has me jonesin' for some football!

Posted by: AJRitz

If the XFL really wanted to bring us "extreme football", they should have done just that, instead of bringing us WWE football. There was no need for strippers as cheerleaders, silly wrestling-style rants, etc. Keep the opening game ball scramble, allow forward motion before the snap, keep bump-and-run (but have a long enough training camp to teach receivers how to beat it - it's really hard to do well as a cornerback), and take the ultimate step - no pads, no helmets. They should have played it like the fans play it on Thanksgiving morning. With fans able to see the players' faces, they could have developed some real star personalities, instead of having to rely on self-selected nicknames.