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Access Tivo over the internet

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Posted by: bobbymobile

Hi, Does anyone know of an IDIOTS guide to allows access to Tivo over the internet? I have done a search on the forum but have not come up with anything.



Posted by: sanderton

It's impossible to do a step-by-step as it depends on the model of router (or PC routing software) you are running and who your ISP is.

How complex it is also depends on how many layers of security you want to put between the net and your tiVo (and by extension your home network).

The very simplest version involves setting up a username and password for TivoWeb by editing the tivoweb.conf file on the Tivo, and setting up your router to port-forward an external port to port 80 on the TiVo.

For example you could set up port 5678 on the router to forward to port 80 on 192.168.1.1 (or whatever your TiVo's IP is); you can the use a web browser outside your network to conect to http://yourroutersIP:5678/

That will only work if your router's IP stays the same allthe time - that will depend on your ISP and the type of account you have. If yours does not stay the same you need to use one of the free dynamic DNS services to get a fixed URL.

Confused yet? :)



Posted by: alphabeta

Sad to say it, but I don't think this is something that idiots should try doing :)

Seriously though, it does require some knowledge of at least three aspects:


There are basically four steps you would need to perform:

  1. Add a network port to your Tivo (lots of guides on this. Try choosing one of the cards here and looking at the instructions they link to)
  2. Install Tivoweb on the tivo (instructions are normally in the same guide as the networking)
  3. Configure your home network and add the Tivo (this is a hard one as it is very dependent on your specific configuration)
  4. Make the Tivo accessible from the external Internet (again depends on your specific configuration and also the security options you choose)


If you research each of these aspects one at a time then you should get somewhere!



Posted by: sanderton

He's already got TW according to his sig, so it's "just" the routing and security config to worry about. :)



Posted by: iankb

quote:
Originally posted by sanderton
For example you could set up port 5678 on the router to forward to port 80 on 192.168.1.1 (or whatever your TiVo's IP is); you can the use a web browser outside your network to conect to http://yourroutersIP:5678/
If you're accessing it from work, be aware that a large number of company firewalls are set up so that you can only browse external websites on standard ports (e.g. 80, 8080 and 443 - for HTTPS).



Posted by: cojonesdetoro

Are you able to access your Tivo from a local PC?

Does the local PC have access to the Internet and web sites?

If so, then a super-simple way to access the Tivo is to use gotomypc.com to 'remote control' the local PC. They do charge a $20/month subscription but being an 'idiot' carries a cost ;^>. It's a heavy price but you may find it offers value beyond just Tivo access.

It is a pretty impressive service for remote access. You don't have to forward any incoming traffic. it works as long as you can access a web site on port 80. They use a java app to establish the outbound connection at both ends and 'hairpin' the traffic at their NOC. If two machines have outbound access to destination port 80 to 'anywhere' then it will work. The response time of the user interfaces is also very reasonable.

It's also pretty secure because the traffic is encrypted. Of course, it also means that you have to trust gotomypc, inc.

I'm not sure if the service is offered in the UK but I can't see any reason why not...

This suggestion assumes you're not somewhere (work, etc) that specifically blocks gotomyPC servers/IPs for policy reasons.


All in all, this method would not appeal to a techy who knows how to set up a squid reverse proxy, open an incoming port, utilize ssh tunneling or any number of other methods. However, it might be good for the person who has lots of money to burn but no time to learn.



Posted by: Fatbloke

FYI Gotomypc is available in the UK. It works in through work firewalls too (standard ports are used).
Yearly sub work out at around 5 per month with the current x-rate.



Posted by: johala_reewi

quote:
Originally posted by alphabeta
There are basically four steps you would need to perform:

  1. Add a network port to your Tivo (lots of guides on this. Try choosing one of the cards here and looking at the instructions they link to)
  2. Install Tivoweb on the tivo (instructions are normally in the same guide as the networking)
  3. Configure your home network and add the Tivo (this is a hard one as it is very dependent on your specific configuration)
  4. Make the Tivo accessible from the external Internet (again depends on your specific configuration and also the security options you choose)


If you research each of these aspects one at a time then you should get somewhere!



5] Make the internet accessible from Tivo !!



Posted by: bobbymobile

Thanks for all of the feedback i have Tivoweb installed and its connected via my netgear DG834G. As a novice I installed a larger hardrive and Tivoweb with help from this forum so hopefully i can get the net access to work.




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