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Deadwood 5/9 (Spoilers)
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Posted by: ClutchBrake

Another great episode.

The situation with the young con artists was resolved rather quickly. I expected more time from that arc. I hesitate to say Flora got what she deserved but I didn't feel bad when it happened. Almost felt bad for her brother though, if he really was her brother.

Swearengen continues to be my favorite character on television. Every word and action adds to the mystery of his character.

I found the final scene with Trixie to be almost heartbreaking. It was very well done. So much was said with nothing said at all.

Posted by: Tsiehta

I watched this for the first time last night. I wasn't interested earlier, I stay far away from anything Western. I have to admit, I was instantly captivated. I'm going to have to go it a closer look.

Posted by: DPF

Yes, keep up with it, quite possibly the best the best show on television right now. I have not seen last nights ep yet, caught part of the first half and will watch the whole thing tonight. Ian McShane's Al is just an awesome character as stated many many times here. Even the little things like when he was all "What the f@#& is this?" when making fun of the laringitis guy's hand signals was just great. Every week it's a great job done with a great character.

I find myself sitting there waiting for Sopranos to be over so Deadwood can start. It's great stuff. I miss Bill though, wish they'd have kept him in it a while longer.

-DPF

[edit] for spelling [/edit]

Posted by: ClutchBrake

Thanks, DPF! There is usually at least one comment in each episode that comes out of nowhere and has me rolling. I couldn't remember my favorite one from last night but you reminded me. It was definitely Al's comment to laryngitis guy. :up: :D Jane's reaction and comments to Charlie after getting the vaccine were good too.

Posted by: lordargent

quote:
Originally posted by Tsiehta
I watched this for the first time last night. I wasn't interested earlier, I stay far away from anything Western. I have to admit, I was instantly captivated. I'm going to have to go it a closer look.

I hate westerns, but it's not like there's any good sci-fi on :(

Posted by: Sarahbelle18

Is there anyone else who was so swamped with good television last night that they're having to wait until tonight to watch Deadwood?

Posted by: Jon J

quote:
Originally posted by Sarahbelle18
Is there anyone else who was so swamped with good television last night that they're having to wait until tonight to watch Deadwood?

Watched Sopranos and Deadwood "live" in HD. TiVo caught anything else. What else was on? :confused:

Posted by: ClutchBrake

For me it was three hours of Survivor, Deadwood, The Sopranos, Coupling, Malcom in the Middle, King of the Hill, The Simpsons, and something else that escapes me at the moment.

Of those, Deadwood, The Sopranos, and Coupling are repeated throughout the week. I ended up watching Survivor, Deadwood, and The Sopranos. Saved the comedy for tonight.

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

Sunday nights are brutal. For me, there's Sopranos, Deadwood, Arrested Development, L&W:CI, Cold Case, Alias, The Practice (damn you, James Spader!), and State of Play (fortunately, Prime Suspect 6 only lasted two weeks). For a while, when the season was in full swing, I was using both tuners on my DirecTiVo and watching HDTV, and still having to delay a lot of stuff until later viewings (and thank goodness L&O:CI is repurposed on USA).

Now that the season is winding down, however, it looks like Sunday will be a wasteland again, like most nights in the summer. But that's a good thing, too; the pile of DVDs to be watched is getting mighty deep... :D

Posted by: zyzzx

quote:
Originally posted by DPF
Yes, keep up with it, quite possibly the best the best show on television right now.

For those who watch both shows, is Deadwood really as good as The Shield?

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

quote:
Originally posted by zyzzx
For those who watch both shows, is Deadwood really as good as The Shield?

It seems to be headed in that direction. What I think is the premise of the show (power struggle between Swearingen and Sheriff Bullock) hasn't even happened yet; it's definitely a slow-burn show. But it gets better and more interesting with each episode; the characters are all rich and three-dimensional, and their interactions not always what you would think.

Posted by: Sarahbelle18

I may be in the minority, but Deadwood has been so much better than the Sopranos this season.

I highly recommend it.

Posted by: pmyers

So I lost track of how many times the widow changed her mind about leaving....what was the final decision? Is she staying in Deadwood or going back to NY?

Posted by: christopher710

She's staying. Great show, I can see Bullock and Swearingan sp? teaming up against Tolliver. I think Tolliver is a much more evil character.

Posted by: Sarahbelle18

quote:
Originally posted by pmyers
So I lost track of how many times the widow changed her mind about leaving....what was the final decision? Is she staying in Deadwood or going back to NY?

She'll probably change her mind again after she hears that Bullock has a wife and child.

Posted by: Tivortex

quote:
Originally posted by christopher710
She's staying. Great show, I can see Bullock and Swearingan sp? teaming up against Tolliver. I think Tolliver is a much more evil character.

I think you might be right and wrong. Al is simply motivated by the greed, but Cy definitely has a cruel streak which he manages to hide pretty well behind his charming exterior. I can't see Seth and Al teaming up on much of anything though, especially considering what the real Bullock ended up doing in Deadwood.

Posted by: racer21

quote:
Originally posted by ClutchBrake
Another great episode.

The situation with the young con artists was resolved rather quickly. I expected more time from that arc. I hesitate to say Flora got what she deserved but I didn't feel bad when it happened. Almost felt bad for her brother though, if he really was her brother.

I too was surprised that it was wrapped up so fast. Last week after the couple made a comment about robbing both places, I was expecting somewhat of an "elaborate" plan. I thought they may catch both Al and Cy off gaurd.

The way it unfolded it was like they didn't really have a plan at all.

I look forward to this show each week.

Posted by: pmyers

quote:
Originally posted by racer21
I too was surprised that it was wrapped up so fast. Last week after the couple made a comment about robbing both places, I was expecting somewhat of an "elaborate" plan. I thought they may catch both Al and Cy off gaurd.

The way it unfolded it was like they didn't really have a plan at all.

I look forward to this show each week.

what I thought was silly was that they were just going to take that one girl's jewelry.....that and how/why did she not expect her to come up stairs to talk to her after she just told her and Cy that she was quiting?

Posted by: ClutchBrake

My take on the situation is that they have been scamming much lesser people than Al and Cy. Flora getting bolder and more vicious each time. Cy caught on to her (perhaps Al too) so early that they didn't have time to come up with a plan. Flora was too bold now to walk away. She knew she had cut Joanie deep emotionally and hoped she could get away because of it. If not she would get to satisfy her bloodlust.

Posted by: Sarahbelle18

Yeah pmyers...she should have just told Joanie (aka "the dyke") that she needed to look for her pin and then took off...she might not have attracted any attention that way.

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

Criminals are often stupid and arrogant (i.e., they don't realize how stupid they are). You see stories of stupid crooks doing far dumber things than Flora every week in News of the Weird. I, too, was caught off guard by the abruptness of Flora's downfall, but it was a nice piece of misdirection--her purpose in being there wasn't to pull off a job, as it seemed, but rather to give Cy an opportunity to show the brutality that lurks beneth his charming exterior. And the abruptness of her fall only accentuated his brutality. A nifty bit of writing, which I've come to expect from this show.

Posted by: masdoggydogg

quote:
Originally posted by Sarahbelle18
She'll probably change her mind again after she hears that Bullock has a wife and child.

Well I'm assuming that won't happen since she seems to be the only romantic prospect for Bullock right now...unless his wife comes to Deadwood, which wouldn't be as exciting as an affair.

quote:
Originally posted by Tivortex
I can't see Seth and Al teaming up on much of anything though, especially considering what the real Bullock ended up doing in Deadwood.

I didn't realize this was based on real people. What did the original Bullock do?

Posted by: blueshoo

quote:
Originally posted by masdoggydogg
I didn't realize this was based on real people. What did the original Bullock do?

Since it hasn't happened in the show yet, this information is spoiler material..

Posted by: pmyers

quote:
Originally posted by blueshoo
Since it hasn't happened in the show yet, this information is spoiler material..

blueshoo.....thank you for spoilering that type of information!

Posted by: Redleg

After last night, Deadwood is now my favorite current show. Each week is better than the last, the characters are vivid, and the writing is just terrific. I never expected a quasi-historical drama to be this riveting.

Thank God for HBO!

Posted by: blueshoo

Redleg,

Agreed. I avoided the show at first, not wanting to add another SP and having similar expectations about a "Western."

I thought the resolution to the "brother/sister" subplot was very fitting. Swift, harsh, and as Medieval Guy stated, did more to develop the characters of Cy and Joanie than anything else. I thought the whole subplot was well-done: interesting, intriguing, and cleanly wrapped-up. Although their 'plan' was half-assed, I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the writers for that being an intentional display of their mixture of hubris and naivete. Although I was slightly hoping/expecting them to pull it off, it was practically refreshing to see them pulled off the horses and just know they were 'screwed'. (refreshing from a 'what you normally see on TV' perspective)

Posted by: bobjohnson

Jane seems to have mellowed a bit, and everyone seems to be finding their groove. Because of that, it's becoming one of my favorites as well.

Posted by: mykebass

quote:
Originally posted by zyzzx
For those who watch both shows, is Deadwood really as good as The Shield?

IMO, they are neck and neck. Both are EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT shows. Sopranos used to be that way, but . . .

Posted by: warrenevans

SOmething I was wondering is how come they keep trying to wash the blood off the floor. Just go to the hardware store and get some sandpaper. (I am assumeing they had sandpaper then) Or a that thing that you push that has a blade in it. Rasp? (I forget what its called) That way you don't have to spend all this time cleaning the floor. ...However if you have allota fights you might need a new floor.

Posted by: warrenevans

quote:
Originally posted by lordargent
I hate westerns, but it's not like there's any good sci-fi on :(

How about a Western/sci-fi!! No wait thay tried that. DAnm you fox

Posted by: gregpr

Swearengen is rapidly becoming my favorite character. His comments just show his true larcenous character. Especially the 1/2 price for the next 15 minutes comment after the prayer in episode 1.

Posted by: DLiquid

quote:
Originally posted by ClutchBrake
Swearengen continues to be my favorite character on television. Every word and action adds to the mystery of his character.

I totally agree :up:. When watching this ep, there were numerous times I found myself smiling when watching Swearengen do his thing.

Posted by: jeff125va

I thought it was clear by the end that Mrs. Garrett made up her mind that she was going to stay once she said ~ "it seems I've struck it rich."

I had these piling up on my TiVo for about six weeks before I started watching it. Even after the first one or two I wasn't sure I'd stick with it, but starting with around the third episode I really got into it and got caught up in less than two weeks (VERY fast for me, I have L&O's going back to February).

I just can't figure out where I know the actor who plays Swearengen from. I don't really recall seeing anything in his IMDB listing, but he seems extremely familiar.

Posted by: Jon J

quote:
Originally posted by jeff125va
I just can't figure out where I know the actor who plays Swearengen from.

He played the slightly crooked "Lovejoy" on the series of the same name.

Recently he was in a BBCA program called "Trust".