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CSI *No More Bets* 5/13
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Posted by: Jonathan_S

Nick doesn't get the promotion 'cause Greg's getting a new toy instead. That's got to hurt.

Sara - "That's a stupid reason", not the best thing to say to your boss :)

Ok, have to say I really bought Sam Braun as the killer, or at least the one who ordered the hit.

Sam - "I always get my moneys worth, one way or another". Great thing to say to your kid when you've given her a big check 'no strings attached'.

Posted by: Oldandslow

quote:
Originally posted by Jonathan_S
Nick doesn't get the promotion 'cause Greg's getting a new toy instead. That's got to hurt.

Sara - "That's a stupid reason", not the best thing to say to your boss :)

Ok, have to say I really bought Sam Braun as the killer, or at least the one who ordered the hit.

Sam - "I always get my moneys worth, one way or another". Great thing to say to your kid when you've given her a big check 'no strings attached'.

Hurt is right! Has a note of realism to it, doesn't it?

No, but Sara was correct. Grissom doesn't think like "normal people".

Yes, I thought --here we go again. Sam will want something soon.

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

quote:
Originally posted by Jonathan_S
Sam - "I always get my moneys worth, one way or another". Great thing to say to your kid when you've given her a big check 'no strings attached'.

Yeah, that was a truly nasty moment. She does NOT have good genes..!

Posted by: murgatroyd

The thing with Grissom is all of a piece with the promotion storyline we have seen before. First it was Nick and Warrick duking it out over who is going to get bumped up in class, now it is Sara wanting the promotion and Nick getting it instead.

Note what Grissom says. He gave it to Nick because he didn't want it. That means Grissom thinks Nick has moved on from the point he was earlier, where he was wanting to make the grade for the ego-boo. Now Nick has started to think about the work rather than just making the grade to prove he is best.

Grissom's focus will ALWAYS be on the work, more than any other consideration. Sara should know this, since she's known him longer than anyone.

For a job like this, I don't want "normal people". I want people like Grissom.

Jan

Posted by: tanstaafl

I think it's Catherine who has known Grissom for a long time, not Sara. Isn't Sara the newest member of the team? (Or do they know each other from "before" and I missed that episode?)

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

In the first (second?) episode, Grissom brought in his long-time associate Sara from somewhere else, ruffling a few feathers in the process.

Posted by: murgatroyd

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Originally posted by Medieval Guy
In the first (second?) episode, Grissom brought in his long-time associate Sara from somewhere else, ruffling a few feathers in the process.

Gotta be episode #2 because

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
isn't she the replacement for the CSI who gets killed in episode #1?

Jan

Posted by: Llwellyn

She was brought in because of Holly's murder; they needed an independent CSI on the team for the investigation. She decides to stay on with Las Vegas and is hired instead of them hiring a replacement (cheaper for them, real-life technically speaking).

Edit: because I can't spell!

Posted by: landrumdh

interesting, I didn't watch CSI at the very start. That puts alot more in context :)

Posted by: warrenevans

I am still unclear as to how they cheated at roulette

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

quote:
Originally posted by warrenevans
I am still unclear as to how they cheated at roulette

Deliberate, I'm sure. If CSI actually came up with a specific method that worked and showed how it was done, they would probably get into a lot of trouble...

Posted by: tanstaafl

Actually, there is a way to do it and what they showed was fairly accurate. It's just hard to pull off in reality. Someone not too long ago built a gadget pretty much like the one used in the episode.

As Grissom said at some point, it's all about physics. Once the wheel is spun and the ball released, the only forces acting are gravity and friction. Calculate those well enough and you can come up with a pretty good idea of where the ball will land.

First, you have to calibrate the system. After the ball is released, the first guy notes when it passes a particular spot and taps an entry. When it passes that spot a second time he taps it again and then again when it passes for the third time. This lets the computer determine how fast the ball is travelling and how fast it is slowing down.

The guy doing the calibration then does the same thing to the wheel, noting when a particular number on the wheel passes the same spot and doing the same twice more. Now the computer knows how fast the wheel is spinning and how fast it is slowing down. Since the same spot was used in both cases, it also knows where the ball is relative to the wheel.

Finally, when the ball lands, you note the slot it landed in.

You do this a few dozen times and the system is calibrated. You can't tell exactly where the ball is going to land since it's going to bounce around a bit when it hits the pins on the wheel, but you can narrow it down enough to easily tip the odds in your favor.

Posted by: blueshoo

A recent story about 'predicting' roulette: http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994815, and using the shoe computer in the late 70's.

Posted by: HTH

Yes, I'd read about that long before the episode aired, on slashdot and/or fark.