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Celebrity Poker (5/27) **Spoilers**
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Posted by: cpalma

Did anyone watch? I could understand if anyone didn't want to as last season wasn't too entertaining.

I started watching 30 min. in (tivo'd to the beginning). At the 1 hour mark in I had already caught up to it live. :( I should have waited to start watching at 1 hour point.

However, it was actually funny. Dave Foley new host, but the host position is still lame.

Wanda Sykes was a riot! Some could take her digs too seriously, but everyone seemed to have fun with it all.

I was sorry to see Mena lose so early in the game. I thought that she was the most knowledgable (of the game of poker) of all the players. However, she took a gamble and lost.

Could they have found 2 more unskilled male poker players??? I guess it's easy for me to say, as I'm sitting on my couch, but they did make some bad moves!

I think Rosaria won by luck, not skill. I guess that's why they call it gambling, tho!

Posted by: dschwab

Dave Foley annoyed me after about 10 minutes, and I've actually liked him on his other shows. Wanda Sykes was a riot, but her "tour" banter with Travis Tritt was wearing thin after the first 5 times. She couldn't even come up with anything nice to say when he was knocked out, continuing with her "tour" act.

I'm with you on Mena, I too would've liked to see her get down to the end, when the serious poker is played. And Rosario did win by luck, she had a 5% chance on winning that last hand and would've been in trouble had she lost her chip lead on that hand. I believe she was also a deep underdog on the hand that knocked Mena out.

Posted by: bkmunroe

Mena did seem to be the better player, but had a couple bad breaks. She has the best poker stare that I've seen.

Wanda was funny, but she did get on my nerves after awhile.

Rosario played well, took a couple big gambles that paid off.

Travis just never seemed to get good cards. So, it's hard to tell how good he was.

Jerome seemed to know the basics, but crumbled when the pressure was on and made a couple huge mistakes.

I like Dave Foley and he had some good lines, but the host is rather useless and just seems to be forced in to the show.

Posted by: smak

Wow, Jerome made the biggest blunder i've seen, pro or amateur, by not calling 1300 with Aces & 10's to win a 15,000 pot.

Yikes.

Wanda gets on my nerves after around 10 seconds.

Mena was pretty skilled, and was looking good.

-smak-

Posted by: jwjody

Very surprised Mena didn't win the game. Rosario told her when she was knocked out that she was the best player at the table and that was true.

J

Posted by: LoadStar

I honestly don't know why people complained about Pollack's hosting from last season... and I especially don't know why people complained after seeing the alternative. Dave Foley was not funny, and just seemed to get in the way. At least Pollack was better able to interact with Phil Gordon... Foley didn't seem to have the same ability. Overall, the best moments of the show were when Foley shut up and let the game progress.

If you ask me, Phil should host the show himself, though it would sort of break the all "celebrity" format a bit.

I think it would've been better to do an hour and a half show. An hour (last year's format) seemed too short and skipped over much of the action, yet two hours had way too much filler. An hour and a half would be good, except it's a scheduling nightmare for Bravo.

Wanda is an aquired taste... I liked her in this episode, although the stuff between her and Travis was a little awkward. I liked her comments about the announcer, though. :) I was surprised to see how well she ended up doing, if she was as novice as she said she was.

Mena... wow. I'm scared. She's a mad card shark... and that stare of hers intimidated even me. Phew. I wouldn't want to sit down at a poker table with her. You could tell, not only by her play but by some of the comments she made, that she's got some considerable experience at the table.

Posted by: murgatroyd

I was expecting this episode to be lively when I saw Wanda was at the table. ;)
The joke about the announcer was my favorite.

Foley is supposed to be an improvement over Pollack? :confused: What was that all about?

Jan

Posted by: marksman

I am a Dave Foley fan but I found his performance a bit cringe-inducing.

Perhaps he will do better when he gets more comfortable with his role. This hosting thing seems pretty foreign to him.

Jerome played horrible.

I loved Wanda, but if she didn't get the cards she would have been out a lot sooner. She had a nice run early on that allowed her to stay to the end. Of course we can thank her bluffing the jock off Jerome for that too.

Who raises 3000 and then folds when the other person goes all in? Especially when you had a decent hand.

Posted by: David Platt

Was it just me or was everybody (including Dave Foley) completely trashed by the end of the show?

Posted by: Maui

You know I never laughed this hard watching the World Poker Tour :D

If I had been at the table Wanda would have sent me over the edge but watching it on TV I laughed harder and more often than I did at any "comedy" show this past season.

Her tour stuff with Travis did get old but they had some wonderful exchanges during the games. My favorite was when Wanda asked when Shania's new cd was coming out and Randy replied something like "the same time as the new Chris Rock special". I think Travis earned some respect from Wanda at that point. Also, after Travis stated that he had sung with Ray Charles and Wanda Replied "Yeah, but you know they told him you were Charlie Pride".

Travis' line about the little Bus looking like it was being driven by Nolte was great too.

As for the poker - Rosario did not deserve to win. In my opinion Mena and Travis were the best players but niether got very good cards and when they did get playable cards the flop would miss them completely. I also think they were somewhat thrown off by the erratic play of Wanda and Rosario.

Posted by: Azlen

Mena's biggest problem is that she didn't adjust her game to the people she was playing with. Some of the moves she made might work against a more experienced player, but didn't work against less experienced players. You can't play the same way against everybody.

Posted by: Phod

Another of Mena's problem was the inability to recognize when her opponents were weak. They'd check weak hands and she could have bet to force them to fold but she kept checking and ended up losing hands a bet would have won.

Posted by: balboa dave

Dave Foley was hilarious. Yes, he was a little awkward as a host, but the jokes were pure dry wit, and there just isn't enough of that on TV anymore.

If some found Wanda Sykes to be annoying, well, wasn't that just good poker? I don't know whether Jerome or Travis were good players or not, but she definitely threw them off what game they had. Like Maui wrote, the Charlie Pride comeback was brilliant. That night, she was the best player, right up to the river card.

I see James Woods is in an upcoming episode. It would have been great to see him (I have no idea if he wins or not) and Wanda sitting at the same table. Oh, well.

Posted by: sschwart

I thought Dave was an improvement over Kevin Pollack, but he still was focusing too much on jokes and just got in the way. They need to have a second poker expert as the host, someone that can discuss the finer points of the game with Phil Gordon (who seemed to be really tired of Dave's jokes by the end).

Mena's problem in my opinion, was that she wasn't aggressive enough. She didn't bet when her opponents showed weakness, she played only the best hands (with 1 or 2 exceptions), and when she did, she got poor luck. I do think she was the most knowledgeable about poker there, and I'd crumble under that stare. And damn nice to look at too :)

Wanda was funny most of the time. The tour thing did go a bit too far, but some of the others had me in stitches.

Posted by: bigpuma

I felt like Foley and Gordon had 0 chemistry. It made me wish for Pollack. Were all the episodes last season 2 hours? I would have preferred to see more hands during the show, it seemed like only 30 minutes of actual playing with way too much filler.

Posted by: LoadStar

quote:
Originally posted by bigpuma
I felt like Foley and Gordon had 0 chemistry. It made me wish for Pollack. Were all the episodes last season 2 hours? I would have preferred to see more hands during the show, it seemed like only 30 minutes of actual playing with way too much filler.

No, the episodes last season were 1 hour, and they skipped over much of the action. I think this year they showed most of the action, but you are right, there was a lot of filler. (Like I said, 1.5 hours would probably be a good length.)

Posted by: IJustLikeTivo

I like DF but this is not his forte. Pollack was way more interesting and he had some chemistry with Gordon. More importantly, he understands the fame. Foley does not appear to.

Mena was the best player and she lost a couple of hands that were just seriously poor luck where the odds were much in her favor and the cards were not.

Besides, the eyes, it's all about the eyes. Man is she nice looking. Another woman I'd watch reading the phone book. (her not me!)

Posted by: Fustanella

I stopped watching it after Wanda's racist comment. I had hoped she had grown up enough to play with adults for a worthy cause, but that didn't turn out to be.

To that point, I enjoyed Dave Foley as a host, and will catch the next one hoping that some of the rough edges that any first-timer has have been worked out.

Posted by: bigcb37

What comment was racist?

Posted by: DreadPirateRob

Can someone please wipe that caterpillar off of Foley's upper lip?

This episode bored me, and I ended up FF'ing through parts of it. I did, however, stop and watch whenever it looked like Wanda was cracking everyone up (which was pretty often). I thought she and Travis had a nice little exchange going on, and her Charlie Pride crack was high-larious.

If there's one thing we learned from Celeb Poker last year, is that the strongest players never win - it's the players who play the most junk hands that inevitably get lucky.

Posted by: smak

I don't know if anything Wanda said was racist, but she was all black this, black that, it grows very tiresome.

-smak-

Posted by: Bradc314

I didn't know much about Wanda before watching this show, and now I know this: I will avoid ANYTHING she is in. She came off to me as mean and nasty, and yes, a bit racist. Glad to see her go down, especially as cocky as she was, cleaning a spot for her chips and all.

Posted by: frankmint

I had some problems with this episode, I will give it another chance. I like Pollack and Foley, Dave seemed a little out of his element, jokes were forced and scripted asides obvious. I wanted to like the longer format but 2 hours is too long. There is very little "action" to see, anyway, and what we do see are, well, bad plays.

Maybe a regular rotating set of players would capture my interest. I enjoyed the West Wing show last year, themed shows might be the way to go. As it stands now, I don't care who randomly wins or looses.

Posted by: pmyers

I do have more respect for Foley after I saw him do so well at the WPT's celebrity invitational on tv the other day. At least he has some poker knowledge.

Posted by: midas

I guess I'm different than most that watched this. I've never watched this show before. I saw none of last season. I recorded it because Wanda Sykes was on. I thought she was hilarious.

I'm also a big fan of Dave Foley. I thought he was great in Kids in the Hall. I loved Newsradio. All I could think watching him in this is 'sell out'.

Posted by: pmyers

quote:
Originally posted by midas
...I'm also a big fan of Dave Foley. I thought he was great in Kids in the Hall. I loved Newsradio. All I could think watching him in this is 'sell out'.

No offense, but I always laugh when somebody calls a actor/singer/whatever a "sell out" for making a living.

Posted by: midas

quote:
Originally posted by pmyers
No offense, but I always laugh when somebody calls a actor/singer/whatever a "sell out" for making a living.

I know, I know. But how else would you describe it? Pathetic? Desperate? Lame? Bad career choice? Degrading?

Posted by: pmyers

quote:
Originally posted by midas
I know, I know. But how else would you describe it? Pathetic? Desperate? Lame? Bad career choice? Degrading?

I'd call it making a living....in his profession too. It's not like he's managing a Foot Locker or something. ;)