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Joe Schmo 2 - "On With The Schmo" - Ep. 1 - 6/15/04 *SPOILERS*
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Posted by: Inundated
Here it is...the semi-official JS 2 episode 1 thread. Talk about the first JS2 here tonight.
Enjoy, fellow Schmo-heads!
Posted by: jjokerski
Exciting. There are big shoes to fill; let's see how it goes this season.
Posted by: Turtleboy
How did they find you?
Through my agent.
Moron.
Posted by: aepman
Through my agent.
I just don't think she grasped the concept.
Todd
Posted by: aepman
OMG! I loved the pearl necklace bit. Tim was cracking up the whole time.
Todd
Posted by: headroll
"The Falcon Has Spoken"
-Roll
Posted by: CatBurger00
Did I miss the supposed MKG appearence?
Posted by: Mike Wells
It seems at least one of the new "schmoes" is too smart for the show. One episode and she's already figured it out? I'm surprised.
Also, having two schmoe's - is this a way to hedge their bets? If one figures it out you pay them the cash, and get them to play along, or vote them out ASAP or remove them on a technicality or something?
Posted by: DancnDude
I was ROFL at the lapdance contest. Those costumes were so funny! And planting the seeds for the Stalker....I can't wait to see where this goes. Good episode!
Posted by: TivoGeezer
I am not sure about this one. I was hooked after the first ep of Joe Schmo but the guy in this one seems like Joe Schmirk and Jane has already figured out that something else is going on.
Was the "pearl necklace" euphemism supposed to be that obvious?
Posted by: Azlen
With the way they had Ingrid lying on the bed during her confessional, it was obvious that this was being shown on the Network for Men.
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
Lots to enjoy in this one, but I still have a few reservations-for instance, the bio said that Tim broke up with his girlfriend to do this show because he wouldn't pass up the chance...that sort of makes me nervous as to how he's going to take it when it's all a joke. And also, how's Tim going to take it when they tell him the adopted child thing's not real? He looked really touched by that one.
AND I was only 3 minutes into the show before I had the "Wait, are we the schmos?" thought.
A couple of fun moments:
-The complete overuse of "The most shocking elimination ceremony EVER." I hate when they do that in reality TV.
-Tim's facial expressions are almost as good as Matt's were.
-Derek Newcastle's "Present your black balls" line.
There were many more but I'm blanking at the moment. Can't wait for next week!
Posted by: CatBurger00
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. The most shocking eviction ceremony yet! Um. The only other one was spur-of-the-moment at the beginning, and if ya count last season, the one in this episode sure wasn't the most shocking (so I hope they were just spoofing). I remember they did that with the mole (yay mole music!) last season. Every single week.
Spike really ought to buy the rights to the mole so they can do a joe schmo/mole cross for some real comedy. And it would probably be a lot easier than making a whole new show, not to mention a lot less suspicion by the schmo(s). :)
*fantasizes about crazy, staged mole moments just to confuse a schmo*
P.S. Gee muggum, you got a lot of face time, didn't ya? :)
Posted by: ahecht
quote:
Originally posted by YCantAngieRead
And also, how's Tim going to take it when they tell him the adopted child thing's not real? He looked really touched by that one.
How do you know that wasn't real? There are plenty of organizations that sort of thing.
It will be interesting to see what happens with Ingrid. Don't forget that there were several times when the producers thought that MKG had figured it out, but he said afterwords that he was never even close.
Also, I loved the editing in the eviction scene, with the rapid cutting between the host, the constestants, and the frog. That frog just cracked me up.
Posted by: Azlen
With the way they currently cast some reality shows, I didn't think the agent comment was that much of a tip off.
Posted by: Green Imp
Copying my thoughts from another forum, since I don't want to have to come up with anything new.
I think it's genious for SpikeTV to re-air the show immediately afterwards. We're here with some pizza & beer, and my first thought afterwards was that I wanted to watch it again and see what I missed.
I also think that last time around the show was really just sorta testing new waters as far as the intentions of the show were concerned, and it was the fact that MKG was such a decent guy and such a great "character" that they pulled off one helluva show. This time, though, the show seems air-tight by comparison. The quality of the actors has been kicked up a notch, the events on the show itself seem to flow a little better with a lot less downtime (maybe it's just the editing), and I like the insights from the production staff that help cement the punchline of a gag (like the explanation behind the minorities' early eviction).
I like the new Schmos. Tim seems like an entertaining guy--where MKG might have held back in a situation out of politeness, Tim cracks up anyway, but does it in such a way that he doesn't mean to offend anyone. A perfect example is his reaction to Bryce's announcement about his "crush". In a way, Tim seems even more "real" than MKG.
Ingrid's a bit of a wildcard on the show, I think. Where Tim seems to take everything in stride in the spirit of having a good time, I think Ingrid is a little more skeptical of what's going on. Which is not to say that she's any more paranoid or any smarter than Tim--she just seems to be a little less easy-going than he is, and the hesitation that Ingrid's showing seems to give her a little more time to really think about the situation around her. Where Tim muffled his laughter over Bryce spying on the hot tub and told his true thoughts in his confessional later, Ingrid seems more likely to address that sort of situation at the time, really calling into question what's going on.
As far as the cast goes, I was worried that "Gerald" (Jono!) was going to be way over-the-top in that desperate Canadian comedian sort of way. To my surprise, he almost seems like the glue that's keeping it all together. He quickly called Ingrid out on her interrogation of the other potential competitors (something which was threatening the success of the show before it began), and he also really seemed to deal with the particular situations he was involved in well. Hell, even on the sidelines he never seemed to lose focus at all, and has, as such, almost taken on the "buddy" role, as Tim has turned to him several times for the "what the hell was that?" reaction. Where I thought Jono would blow it all by being unrealistic, he's in fact sold himself to Tim as a believable character already.
I also love "Ernie" for a lot of the same reasons. His back-and-forth with Derek over the Shakespeare quote was perfectly done--I can't imagine the timing or the respective deliveries going any better.
I'm not too sold on Ambrosia, who (and this isn't a race issue) seems like the "Gina" of this season. By that I mean her inexperience in improvisational acting is showing through very early on. Where "the Moron" played well against Ingrid's suspicions, the Ambrosia actress didn't really seem to know what to say--it also seems like it happened again later during the clips from the next show. Maybe I'm nitpicking, but I guess it's because the actors this time around are that damn good. Hell, that Bryce guy was awesome.
Anyway, yeah, can't wait for the next one. I was worried I'd be disappointed with the show this time around, as I figured there was no way they could top what they did with the first. I'm totally f**king wrong, I guess, and I'm thrilled.
Posted by: mt1
That Newcastle guy sure is charming.
Posted by: Supfreak26
Freakin' hilarious!
Green Imp covered a lot of my thoughts about the show and the new characters. The only character that I thought was playing it way too much was Rita and her drinking but thankfully she is gone now.
Hopefully they can swirve Ingrid back into the gag and keep things moving well. She seems way too skeptical to make it to the end of this show but maybe that's going to be the big challenge of it all. And, while she's a pleasure to look at, I can't really decide if I like her or if she annoys the crap out of me.
Tim is awesome. Seems like a guy I could hang with. Not as nerdy as Matt and has a good sense of humor. Will be fun to see how he reacts to the rest of the series.
And I hope they keep the Moron around for a long time... I love the Barbie doll look :D
Posted by: rseligman
What's with that sound effect when they wipe or zoom from one scene to another? It sounds like a stadium crowd going "Hey!"
They use it too often. I find it very distracting.
Posted by: TIVOSciolist
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Wells
Also, having two schmoe's - is this a way to hedge their bets? If one figures it out you pay them the cash, and get them to play along, or vote them out ASAP or remove them on a technicality or something?
You've hit it on the head. It really makes sense now: two Schmos as a backup in case one of them figures out the show. Brilliant!
I miss Rita already. I normally hate comedies (e.g., Arthur, Philadelphia Story) that feature drunks or actors who play drunks (e.g., Foster Brooks) because I don't think being drunk is funny. However, the Rita character was great. The actress, although she left first, made a very memorable appearance.
Posted by: BrentTivo
"May I please give you a pearl necklace?"
"Yes, please give me a pearl necklace."
Or something like that. Hilarious! I live the fact that Tim could not stop cracking up during the whole ceremony.
Too bad Will Ferrell can't make a guest appearance as Newcastle's brother or his replacement when Newcastle has to be on assignment.
Posted by: rasheed
A decent start to the new season. The actors seem to feel a little less natural in the situation than last time perhaps (or maybe I am just working alongside with Ingrid's comments). I guess an ideal situation would be for the two real people to work together, but I guess we shall see what happens as I think one of the main fun parts of the 'hoax' reality genre is not just the outrageous bits, but the near-collapsing of the show if someone gets a clue of it might be staged.
Rasheed
Posted by: ahecht
quote:
Originally posted by Supfreak26
Freakin' hilarious!
Green Imp covered a lot of my thoughts about the show and the new characters. The only character that I thought was playing it way too much was Rita and her drinking but thankfully she is gone now.
As funny as she was in the Lap Dance for Romance contest, I was pretty sure right then that she was going to be evicted, as it looked like they had gone as far as they could with the character.
quote:
Originally posted by rseligman
What's with that sound effect when they wipe or zoom from one scene to another? It sounds like a stadium crowd going "Hey!"
They use it too often. I find it very distracting.
I've seen that same sound effect used in many other reality shows, including the Mole (which is replaying now on GSN, BTW).
Posted by: Inundated
I gotta say...wow!
After tonight, I am EAGERLY looking forward to the rest of this run. Some random comments:
* Not only am I enjoying both Tim and Ingrid, but they're different enough from each other to provide some interesting contrasts. Tim seems to be wasting no time "getting into the game", with even some good natured pot shots at other contestants. Ingrid? She's a smart one...probably too smart for the show's good! ("Who's Madeline Albright?", from Cammy... LOL)
* And it's Ingrid's "Truman Show" eye - noticing Austin's seemingly scripted "pearl necklace ceremony" speech even earlier than Matt noticing something funny about Gina's over-the-top Survivor-aping speech - that could very well get the show into hot water. I still generally think that both Ingrid and Tim are going to get through it, and that Rhett and company found a way to bring Ingrid back on track, but they probably stocked a lot of antacids at the mansion...
* I, too, miss Rita. I realize why she was the first "non-instant" eviction... well, for one, there's not a LOT you can do with a falling down drunk woman's storyline and not repeat yourself, but it would have been fun to see her in later shows. Of course, if they do like they did in TJSS, she may be back later, even for a one-show cameo. I'm putting my bet down on this one now...
* I love the fact Montecore is a central character, even, when he shows up. And the cut back and forth between the cast and Ralph and Montecore (who they got moving his head in time with the others) was classic.
* I love Ralph as Derek Newcastle...no one does a put-upon host like he does, and the British angle adds yet another layer of put on. I've gotta say, though...they are very lucky neither Tim nor Ingrid saw any of TJSS. I'd still have recognized Ralph, even under all that getup...his face has a certain look to it. (But yes, in getup, they could always sub Will Ferrell without missing a beat in looks, at least. Actually, it would not be a surprise if Tim or Ingrid thought he WAS Will in disguise! Ralph in Derek gear is a dead ringer for Ferrell's Alex Trebek.)
* Bryce is gonna be comedic gold. Funny line from Tim: "how'd he pass the psychological test?" (for the show, I presume) It's cool that Tim is picking up on stuff like that rather quickly, and that Ingrid picked up on the ejection of the African-American contestants all in a row.
* And our man Muggum has taken a leap into more onscreen time! Way to go! Rhett, you're ever diplomatic...when talking about that one-day-model's "I got a call from my agent" goof, you didn't even go as far as the actor playing T.J., I think it was...you basically said "well, it just didn't take". But the look on your face said it all.
BTW, please feel free (Rhett) to lead other JS 2 cast/crew back here... not to mention nudging Brian (where the heck are ya, EKB??) back here... I wonder if any of the JS 2 cast is aware of the scope of the online "fan groups" or message boards such as this...
BTW 2, Peter Ames Carlin of the Oregonian newspaper (Portland) had a very nice review of JS 2, Show 1:
"Now the good news is that 'Joe Schmo' is not only back for a second whirl, with an all-new phony reality show and two new stooges, but also is just as absurd and funny as it was the first time around."
http://www.oregonlive.com/living/or...00975179231.xml
Posted by: MitchO
Woooot! I'm just so happy to have Schmoe back. Bryce looks to be comedy gold. I think my favorite exchange was:
"It eats mice."
"Do you .. have mice with you?"
"Yes. Yes, I do."
Ingrid definetly looks like she's going to be one smart cookie, and I think she's going to benefit from the exposure a lot more than Tim. While Tim is amusing and obviously appeals to the "guy" audience that Spike is shooting for, Ingrid is already coming off as an intelligent, attractive and decent woman ... all the things they say Piper is supposed to be.
I am happy to see our man Muggum (now there's a show title) get some face time, but i gotta admit; one of the joys of last season and last night was the show's wink winks to us, and the fact that it allowed us to see them for ourselves. I recognized right away that the faces we haven't seen before were all the "non white" types ... and Ingrid catching it right away was even more fuel. Honestly .. we didn't need Rhett explaining to us that its a parody; we get it.
Did Rita remind anyone else of the sarcastic girl from Good Morning Miami? Wait, that would require someone else to have WATCHED Good Morning Miami~.
"Ernie" Gallo. That took us a minute, lol.
EDIT: I, too feel like i missed the Matt appearance. Was he on the cutting room floor, or was the information about when he appears garbled? I think, since Tim and Ingrid have never seen TJSS1, that it would have been funny to make Matt one of the three guys that immediately got a "black ball". Risky, but hysterical.
Posted by: Smarmy Host
Hey Gang-
I'm loving reading all of your comments and thoughts! Just like last season, I think the show this year gets better with every episode, so you're going to have lots to talk and think about.
And just so no one feels badly about the "fake" adopted children ... Rhett & Co. are such great guys that they actually did sponser some children in need. Those guys are the best.
As always, thanks for watching and the continued support!
-Ralph a.k.a. "Derek"
Posted by: MitchO
RALPH!! You're up early :) Thanks for staying with us this year. We're already loving Derek: "Thank you for the courtesy laugh."
Posted by: CraigEagle
I love this show. I watched all of last season and just lurked in the original thread but now I am jumping in the thread.
Last night was great. My wife was going up to bed b/c she didn't want to watch it. She said she was just going to stay up till they explained the game. Halfway through the second showing she realized she is not going to be able to miss a minute of The Schmo.
Now some thoughts:
I have never acted before but I have told several lies in my lifetime. If I were the actors and Ingrid brought up the Truman Show I would have played along. Have some of the actors point out some strange things too and then drop it. This is reality TV, there is always a twist and Ingrid is looking for it. Make her think it is something else. When you mention something and 10 people around you instantly deny it, it does seem fishy.
Tim is awesome as Joe Schmo but would not make a very good contestant on a "Real" dating/reality show. He cracks up too much. The man can't keep his composure. Ingrid is trying to hard to figure something out. I think that she will make it to the end but I think in the post-schmo interview she will reveal that he was suspicious all along.
Muggum - how much antacid did you guys go through daily with Ingrid around. Without revealing what does happen were there plans to move on with Joe if Jane figured it out?
- Craig
Posted by: pmyers
"your chest is bare and so is the place in his heart for you. Now walk the path of tears" LOL
Posted by: cheerdude
quote:
Originally posted by pmyers
"your chest is bare and so is the place in his heart for you. Now walk the path of tears" LOL
Is that this year's "Ashes to Ashes... Dust to Dust" ?
Posted by: Rick Texas
quote:
Originally posted by Smarmy Host
Hey Gang-
And just so no one feels badly about the "fake" adopted children ... Rhett & Co. are such great guys that they actually did sponser some children in need. Those guys are the best.
-Ralph a.k.a. "Derek"
Ralph,
I am really glad you are on the show again this year! You are priceless as the host.
I had no doubt that the producers really sponsored the kids, they just seem like that kind of people to me.
I think everyone did an excellent job this year, as far as the cast, and the storylines, and I can hardly wait until next week!
Rick
Posted by: mrpayroll
quote:
Originally posted by mt1
That Newcastle guy sure is charming.
Sorry, I like Ralph Garman better. He had more personality. Since it was only the first episode, maybe more of Derek's personality will come out with each subsequent episode.
Chris
Posted by: mrpayroll
quote:
Originally posted by Supfreak26
Tim is awesome. Seems like a guy I could hang with. Not as nerdy as Matt and has a good sense of humor. Will be fun to see how he reacts to the rest of the series.
Not as nerdy? Did you see that lap dance he did? :D
Chris
Posted by: mrpayroll
quote:
Originally posted by MitchO
RALPH!! You're up early :) Thanks for staying with us this year. We're already loving Derek: "Thank you for the courtesy laugh."
He's on the radio at 6 am, so he may be even e-mailing from KROQ 106.7 in Los Angeles.
Chris
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
quote:
And just so no one feels badly about the "fake" adopted children ... Rhett & Co. are such great guys that they actually did sponser some children in need. Those guys are the best.
Y'know, I actually had that thought cross my mind and I thought it would be a really cool thing for them to have done-they seemed genuinely concerned about the prizes being real in the first show, so it doesn't surprise me to hear that. I think I'm just scared that someone's feelings will get hurt in this one and I'm preparing myself for it, or something. I'm a "glass is half empty" kinda person. :D
Very nice touch, Rhett & Co.
Another absolutely fabulous line: "half-hearted locket". I nearly fell out of bed when I watched it the second time and heard it again.
As for the pearl necklace thing-maybe it's because I'm a female or something, but I didn't even think of it that way (which is dumb considering there'd already been comments on the internet about it before the show started.) It's one of the "gifts" that were give to the women on "Joe Millionaire", so I just saw it as a giant mocking take on it-if a little dirty.
Ralph Garman has a heck of a talent for voices. My roommate, who did radio for like 1,764 years, and who has done many, MANY voices, was very impressed with Ralph's abilities. Me, I just find him absolutely and completely funny. Particularly with (and I'm assuming here, I thought I caught a glimpse of both but I could be wrong) a wig and some prosthetic teeth.
As for Matt-I'm thinking he might have been the guy in the motorcycle/sidecar who was driving. If so, HILARIOUS cameo.
I was also telling someone the other day that dealing with a woman in these situations is going to be VERY interesting-in my experience, women tend to over analyze a LOT more than men, so it could make for an interesting show-and it looks like it has.
And finally, welcome, new people!!! Nothing we love better around here than sharing our Schmo-ppiness! (That really sounds weird if you say it out loud.) :D
(Edited for a note: It was my Dad's 60th birthday and my parents' 38th anniversary last night, and I decided to call them tonight instead of last night so I could watch Schmo. If that's not idiotic devotion to a show, I don't know what is. :))
Posted by: mrpayroll
quote:
Originally posted by cheerdude
Is that this year's "Ashes to Ashes... Dust to Dust" ?
Yes!
Chris
Posted by: mrpayroll
quote:
Originally posted by MitchO
Woooot! I'm just so happy to have Schmoe back. Bryce looks to be comedy gold. I think my favorite exchange was:
"It eats mice."
"Do you .. have mice with you?"
"Yes. Yes, I do."
Bryce - The Stalker is going to be the character that brings the most conflict to the group. I can see him getting creepier and creepier and Tim is going to come to the rescue.
Chris
Posted by: pmyers
So I wonder if Ernie is supposed to be "the friend" but it looks as if Tim has connected more with the "got-to-be-gay-guy" (I don't remember his name). They had some great interactions regarding Bryce last night.
Posted by: Groucho
Very funny stuff, especially the double entrendres. The repeated lines about the pearl necklaces had me on the floor, as did the bit about "present your black balls."
Some good stuff with "Newcastle" too. The extreme camera angle from below was perfect. The Shakespeare "goof" reminded me of the "Bee Costume" bit from last year (both the wife and I site that as our favorite moment from the first season).
I immediately recognized "Eleanor" from Trigger Happy TV. She's hilarious on that show, and I hope she's given more to do...she was in the background too much this episode.
I loved the show last season, and this time it's shaping up to be even better!
Posted by: mrpayroll
Hey Groucho, I didn't know you joined here. Welcome!
Chris
Posted by: mrpayroll
quote:
Originally posted by Green Imp
[B]Copying my thoughts from another forum, since I don't want to have to come up with anything new.
It's like deja-vu
Chris
Posted by: Groucho
Egads! I've been "outed."
;)
Posted by: pmyers
I love how Jane Schmo smirks everytime there is a cheesy line.
Posted by: TIVOSciolist
quote:
Originally posted by YCantAngieRead
As for the pearl necklace thing-maybe it's because I'm a female or something, but I didn't even think of it that way (which is dumb considering there'd already been comments on the internet about it before the show started.) It's one of the "gifts" that were give to the women on "Joe Millionaire", so I just saw it as a giant mocking take on it-if a little dirty.
The trouble with giving out a pearl necklace is that it can't be fake. Every girl, by the time she hits puberty, has already been trained on how to tell a fake pearl from a real one.
(It's in that secret book all girls get but that no man has ever seen. Something about putting a pearl between her teeth.)
Posted by: Hydian
You'll notice that when it looked like Ingrid was about to figure it out, Rhett was trying to get Tim out of there.
A good start to the new season. Ingrid is going to be a real handfull.
Posted by: pmyers
quote:
Originally posted by TIVOSciolist
The trouble with giving out a pearl necklace is that it can't be fake. Every girl, by the time she hits puberty, has already been trained on how to tell a fake pearl from a real one.
(It's in that secret book all girls get but that no man has ever seen. Something about putting a pearl between her teeth.)
And those pearls did look fake. Most pearl strands are very tight around the neck. These hung down way low on the neck and looked very "loose".
Posted by: DLiquid
I think the Newcastle character was a bit risky. The hair/beard color looks very fake (in a do-it-yourself kind of way), and the accent, while not bad, is not that hard to identify as fake. Having such a phony host makes it funnier for us, but riskier for the show.
But I guess that's the main appeal of the show, how far can they push it without the Schmos finding out. Without Jane Schmo starting to figure it out last night, it would have been much less entertaining.
I think the "gay" character has to crank it up a bit. My gay-dar wasn't going off at all, even during that cheesy dance.
Posted by: pmyers
I figured one of the girls would have said something like "Well I just assumed we'd have to give some type of speech so I mentally prepared one". Most dating shows have the people give a speech so it's not really that big of a deal.
Posted by: pmyers
quote:
Originally posted by DLiquid
..I think the "gay" character has to crank it up a bit. My gay-dar wasn't going off at all, even during that cheesy dance.
I thought for sure that he was going to go up and dance for the guy ;) that would have sold it!
Posted by: Bizarro
quote:
Originally posted by pmyers
And those pearls did look fake. Most pearl strands are very tight around the neck. These hung down way low on the neck and looked very "loose".
You can't really tell if they're fake by the length of the strand. I've seen strands that are twice as long as that. It really depends on the design, and these days you don't get many people wearing long necklaces like that.
Posted by: Gunnyman2k3
Can't wait for more. The Black Balls line had me cracked up!
Posted by: mrpayroll
quote:
Originally posted by Hydian
You'll notice that when it looked like Ingrid was about to figure it out, Rhett was trying to get Tim out of there.
A good start to the new season. Ingrid is going to be a real handfull.
Welcome Hydian to the Tivolution, er I mean the Schmovolution! ;)
Chris
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
quote:
The trouble with giving out a pearl necklace is that it can't be fake. Every girl, by the time she hits puberty, has already been trained on how to tell a fake pearl from a real one.
(It's in that secret book all girls get but that no man has ever seen. Something about putting a pearl between her teeth.)
Oddly, I missed that training (along with a boatload of other girly crap I could have used.) I've never actually gotten that trick to work.
It's something about if the pearls feel smooth, they either are or aren't real. I can't remember which. Which is probably why that's never worked for me. :)
Posted by: DancnDude
quote:
Originally posted by DLiquid
I think the "gay" character has to crank it up a bit. My gay-dar wasn't going off at all, even during that cheesy dance.
Is the "Gotta-be-gay" guy really supposed to be gay? I thought he was supposed to be a guy who everyone thinks he's gay ("that guy has gotta be gay"), but probably tells everyone he isn't. That's gonna take more time than we just saw. He's planting the seeds for everyone that he could be though.
Posted by: wendiness
quote:
Originally posted by TIVOSciolist
I miss Rita already. I normally hate comedies (e.g., Arthur, Philadelphia Story) that feature drunks or actors who play drunks (e.g., Foster Brooks) because I don't think being drunk is funny. However, the Rita character was great. The actress, although she left first, made a very memorable appearance.
I was sorry to see Rita go, too. Playing a drunk is extremely hard. Foster Brooks was so good at it because he noted that a true drunk is always trying NOT to look drunk. This actress did a terrific job. By the way, I'm wondering if the name of the character is an inside joke. Muggum's partner's wife is named Rita.
Posted by: wendiness
quote:
Originally posted by DancnDude
Is the "Gotta-be-gay" guy really supposed to be gay? I thought he was supposed to be a guy who everyone thinks he's gay ("that guy has gotta be gay"), but probably tells everyone he isn't. That's gonna take more time than we just saw. He's planting the seeds for everyone that he could be though.
I think the premise is that everybody picks up on his gayness but him. HE doesn't realize he's gay.
Posted by: ahecht
quote:
Originally posted by cheerdude
quote:
quote:Originally posted by pmyers
"your chest is bare and so is the place in his heart for you. Now walk the path of tears" LOL
Is that this year's "Ashes to Ashes... Dust to Dust" ?
First of all, it was Trail of Tears, which made it all the more tasteless and funny.
Second, Ralph said on the 96x interview that there would be a new line each week.
Posted by: wendiness
If you haven't checked out Spike TV's website, they have audio from the producers/directors about the screw up last night. Also, there will be synopsis written each week by our own Brian Etheridge!
Posted by: singletb
quote:
Originally posted by Supfreak26
And I hope they keep the Moron around for a long time... I love the Barbie doll look :D
I actually think the Moron did the best acting job in her reaction to Ingrid's questioning. I find it ironic that the woman playing the moron could be the quickest thinking actor in the bunch.
Posted by: TIVOSciolist
quote:
Originally posted by wendiness
Muggum's partner's wife is named Rita.
I can't remember. Were you the one who got the new Lap of Luxury robe from Stone Stanley last season?
Posted by: TIVOSciolist
quote:
Originally posted by MitchO
I recognized right away that the faces we haven't seen before were all the "non white" types ... and Ingrid catching it right away was even more fuel. Honestly .. we didn't need Rhett explaining to us that its a parody; we get it.
Actually, I appreciated Muggum's explanation as to why the minority actors were eliminated as I found this twist to be more subtle social commentary than obvious satire. JSII pointed out something that has been apparent but unspoken about dating reality shows.
In a real dating show, the African-American contestants usually last at least a couple of episodes, both for rating purposes and also so the objet d'amour can show the world that he/she is "open-minded." Asian-American women might fare a bit better because they are often perceived as exotic and almost as good as being White. (Cf., Persons of Chinese descent, as honorary Whites, being able to use facilities reserved for Whites in apartheid South Africa.)
I recall that there was a very good-looking Asian-American on "The Bachelorette I." (Like the man Trista eventually picked, this guy was also a firefighter.) I had no interest in watching the entire series but I figured I'd watch the first episode only since this guy was sure to be eliminated in the first round. Of course, he was.
On "The Bachelorette II," there was an Asian-American dentist from Dallas. Again, I had no interest in watching the series but I assumed that he wouldn't last beyond the first round so I would only have to invest an hour of my life to the show. Not surprisingly, he was quickly gone.
Both of these guys got little face time on the final broadcast versions of the show. The dentist later noted that, out of all the men, he was the only one who was unable to get any time alone with the bachelorette.
JSII, like the original, is a hoot. Like the first series, it seems that Muggum et al. will also be giving us much for philosophical discussion. Unlike many shows on television, it is easy to tell that this one is written by highly intelligent writers.
Posted by: DancnDude
Ironically, this faux show feels like one of the most "real" out of the reality genre. I think that's because they aren't afraid to show the crew on camera and behind the scenes stuff.
Posted by: DLiquid
quote:
Originally posted by TIVOSciolist
Unlike many shows on television, it is easy to tell that this one is written by highly intelligent writers.
Hmm, do they offer "nut knuckle" PHDs?
:D
Posted by: TampaThunder
quote:
Originally posted by DLiquid
Hmm, do they offer "nut knuckle" PHDs?
:D
Man, that brings back some knee slapping, milk out the nose memories. :D
Posted by: Supfreak26
quote:
Originally posted by wendiness
I think the premise is that everybody picks up on his gayness but him. HE doesn't realize he's gay.
ahhh... He's the Tobias of Joe Schmoe 2! :)
Posted by: getreal
quote:
Originally posted by pmyers
So I wonder if Ernie is supposed to be "the friend" but it looks as if Tim has connected more with the "got-to-be-gay-guy" (I don't remember his name).
Remember him as "Gay-rold" ... Gerald with a *ahem* HARD G.
JSS2 looks like a group ready for caricaturing ...
:D
Posted by: jmenjes
Heads up: Rita (Natasha Leggero) is having a chat tonight at spiketv.com. It begins at 9 pm ET.
Posted by: rseligman
quote:
Originally posted by DLiquid
I think the "gay" character has to crank it up a bit. My gay-dar wasn't going off at all, even during that cheesy dance.
Man, you need to have your gaydar recalibrated. But as others said, he's only supposed to be "gotta-be" gay, not actually gay, so he should be holding something back.
Posted by: TIVOSciolist
quote:
Originally posted by getreal
JSS2 looks like a group ready for caricaturing ...
I look forward to seeing what you do with Piper and Rita.
Posted by: wendiness
quote:
Originally posted by TIVOSciolist
I can't remember. Were you the one who got the new Lap of Luxury robe from Stone Stanley last season?
Sadly, no.
Posted by: wendiness
quote:
Originally posted by TIVOSciolist
Actually, I appreciated Muggum's explanation as to why the minority actors were eliminated as I found this twist to be more subtle social commentary than obvious satire. JSII pointed out something that has been apparent but unspoken about dating reality shows.
JSII, like the original, is a hoot. Like the first series, it seems that Muggum et al. will also be giving us much for philosophical discussion. Unlike many shows on television, it is easy to tell that this one is written by highly intelligent writers.
I agree. I think, being the first episode, it was also necessary to alert new viewers just how clever this parody was going to be. I assume, also, there may have been those newbies who would have flown out of their seats in horror, not recognizing the point being made.
I, too, look forward to the many philosophical topics that will arise from the show.
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
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I actually think the Moron did the best acting job in her reaction to Ingrid's questioning. I find it ironic that the woman playing the moron could be the quickest thinking actor in the bunch.
Interesting that someone mentioned how hard it is to play a drunk-it's almost as hard to play a dumb moron. You'll find that almost all of your stupid characters on television are played by highly intelligent people (Think Lisa Kudrow as Phoebe Buffay.)
quote:
Actually, I appreciated Muggum's explanation as to why the minority actors were eliminated as I found this twist to be more subtle social commentary than obvious satire. JSII pointed out something that has been apparent but unspoken about dating reality shows.
I did too. When I read this spoiler in the other thread, I got just a little nervous... I think that whoever said it would have explained it to new viewers was right on the money. It'd be a very dangerous thing to do right off the bat if you didn't.
By the way, am LOVING the "Stalker theme music". Uh...not that I've watched the show three times already. Seriously. I really haven't. I swear. That wasn't me.
Posted by: TIVOSciolist
quote:
Originally posted by YCantAngieRead
Email me at halfangie@sysmatrix.net for information on the "Send A Postcard To A Soldier In Iraq" project!
A few months ago, in a Joe Schmo thread, I said that I had ordered the Angela Dodson/Molly pin-up calendar for a soldier I knew who was stationed in Iraq. I also mentioned that I had sent over some PG-13 girlie magazines for the troops.
Some guy responded by saying that he and his church group had collected supplies that were sent over for kids in Iraqi elementary schools.
No way I could have topped that.
Posted by: boywaja
quote:
Originally posted by YCantAngieRead
You'll find that almost all of your stupid characters on television are played by highly intelligent people
that's just a rumor started by Woody Harrelson
Posted by: daperlman
I guess I have this forum to thank for turning my on to this show. I absolutely love this concept of a real-life parody of reality shows (and of course romance reality shows are definitely the lamest kind).
I love this host , and the idea of the 'Falcon Twist' ("thank you Montecore"). On the cast, I couldn't believe Ingrid was wise to the speech thing... mostly based on Cammy's "Vote for me" speech. Of all the things to tip them off, this one raises an eyebrow? I loved her reaction, "you thought it was good really?" Rita playing the drunk during the lap dance scene really had to have been hard. I loved her dance; falling on top of him and leaning in to ask: "do you like me?"
Due to Ingrid's low-cut top and the camera angle filming her laying down facing the camera, viewers were pretty much looking down her shirt the entire show. Bryce's character definitely has the toughest job in terms of not cracking a smile at the wrong time and giving himself away. So far he is doing a great job with the "stalker."
Posted by: Blackwolf
I don't understand why, but for some reason the quick cuts during the Montecore and Eviction scenes just had me rolling with laughter. I keep thinking one day they'll insert a picture of the crew in the truck into those scenes, or even the cameramen.
Host, contestand, host, frog, contestant, muggum, host, contestant, falcon, intern boom operator, contestant, bachelor, cameraman, host...
Posted by: Dafaso
I wasn't sure if I'd like this one since it's already 'been done' but I was cracking up throughout the show. I fell off my bed on 'You'll be seeking life's most precious booty" and something about "sucking on the sweet teet of existence." Three thumbs way up!
Posted by: marksman
quote:
Originally posted by Green Imp
[B]
I think it's genious for SpikeTV to re-air the show immediately afterwards. We're here with some pizza & beer, and my first thought afterwards was that I wanted to watch it again and see what I missed.[b]
Does Not Compute. Does Not Compute. Does Not Compute. Meltdown. Meltdown. Meltdown!
:D Sorry could not resist since these are the TiVo forums, and the concept of watching the show live and watching it a second time live is foreign to some of us.
Posted by: ghettoblaster
"He can only give out 4 pearl necklaces..."
HAHA! That whole bit was hilarious! It was funny that Tim caught onto it.
I can't wait to see the episode where the Falcon flies into the window. That should be good.
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
quote:
that's just a rumor started by Woody Harrelson
Or wishfull thinking on my part since I had to play a number of dumb people when I was in college. The difference? I sucked at it. :)
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Bryce's character definitely has the toughest job in terms of not cracking a smile at the wrong time and giving himself away. So far he is doing a great job with the "stalker."
Oh man. I LOVE the Bryce character. You are so right, that would be SO hard not to laugh. I'm afraid, though, because of the way we've seen his character develop quickly he might be the next one to go. That actor (can't remember his name off the top of my head) is GREAT.
quote:
Sorry could not resist since these are the TiVo forums, and the concept of watching the show live and watching it a second time live is foreign to some of us.
The nice thing about the Schmo forums here is that a good number of the people who participate don't have Tivo (like me in the beginning.) This is a great place to sell people on how great Tivo is.
Posted by: TIVOSciolist
My Dearest Ingrid,
My heart quickens as I watch you present your gift for Austin. "A book," I cry!
He tears off the colored paper, revealing the brushed brown hair on the cover photograph. Can it be, I hope, that he is holding the tome of one of the greatest women of the 20th Century? Yes, I think I see the confident eyes that helped lead a nation during its most difficult times! Yes, yes, I believe those are the thin, firm lips over which flowed the words that have rebuffed the world's most wretched dictators!
Oh Ingrid, I can be in Washington, D.C., in twelve hours. Forget Austin, who will only lead you on and who could never love your mind as I can! I'm real! I'm real! True to the words of the poet William Walsh, I promise you that neither our books nor our hearts shall ever part.
The camera zooms in on your cadeau du coeur. Distracted by my thoughts of our future together, my ears barely hear you as you say the words . . . "Madeleine Albright."
"No!!," I scream. It cannot be!
Lowering myself back into my chair, my breathing begins to slow. As my vision of our blonde, Margaret Thatcher-admiring children fades, I realize yet again that I am destined to remain alone.
Posted by: Buca
I tried posting this earlier and it's still hasn't appeared in the forum, so I'm sorry if this end up posted twice.
As a Canadian, I am really excited to see Jonathan Torrens playing "Gerald" on my favourite TV show, JS2. For thos of you who live south of the Canadian border that don't know, Jonathan is a well know actor up here.
I think that he, along with all the other actors, did a great job this episode and I can't wait to see what they do next week. There were way too many great moments to mention them all, but my favourite was when Ralph says "you may now present your black balls". My Boyfriend and I are were cryin from laughing so hard.
I posted a lot last year on "that other website" and I glad to see the whole gang has mad there way here this season.
MitchO: Are you going to stand in front of the camera in New York with a sign again this year? I loved to see what you had written each tiime!
THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT SEASON!
Posted by: wendiness
I don't think Bryce (the Stalker) is at risk of elimination any time soon. He provides too much potential conflict and a chance for Tim to rise to some woman's defence.
Posted by: MitchO
Buca: I don't work in NYC any longer; i do work from home because of my son. I shed a tear as i remember the good ol camera when JS2 started ~
Posted by: hookbill
5 pages of posts, and no comment from Muggum?
Posted by: Inundated
Muggum, and Brian, are actually handling *official* online content on the Spike TV JS2 Web site. Rhett handles the blog, and Brian does the episode summaries. (Read Brian's summary of #1, and it'll bring a hearty laugh if you were around here for the first show...it reads like one of his messages!)
That doesn't mean they can't join us here...Muggum said early on that he'd be here (TC) during the run of the show. Don't forget your "first born" kids, Mr. R! ;)
Posted by: Inundated
A note for Muggum, or Ralph, or anyone who can "do the math" quicker than I can (or who knows the entire airing schedule for JS2): What date would be the finale?
A fellow Schmo-fan and I are trying to plan around it, and it'd be nice to know what day we're talking about. Yes, one episode and I'm already talking about the end! :D
If I recall correctly, they are doing 10 1/2 hours of content this year (one show being an hour and a half). If they run it every single Tuesday night between now and then, that'd put episode 10 on Tuesday, August 17th. But we could have something like last year - where they run a different special or something one week (GQ). And I don't remember if they didn't run TJSS one week or another for any other reason...
Any insight from the show folk (if you're around) would be appreciated...I need to put this together 2 months out for advance travel planning.
Posted by: DancnDude
Muggum had a blog post earlier today that said he was out of town and thus wouldn't make it to his usual posting spots this week, but he will be back next week ;)
Posted by: cwoody222
Comic gold, there! Wow, what a great opening episode. I LOVED watching Ingrid smirk at the cheesy lines and Tim try to hold in his laugher during the Pearl Necklace ceremony. At times, with his head down, he looked pensive and serious. I wonder if more contestants on real reality shows are cracking up and we just don't see it as such.
Loved Derek, loved the Stalker, loved the bird, loved "the most shocking eviction ceremony ever"... loved it all! Ernie Gallo! LOL!
Keep it coming!!!
Posted by: Inundated
Muggum notes that he's working on "new" stuff for Spike while in NYC! (Don't think we don't pick up on this stuff, Rhett ;) ) But thank you for the "heads up"...
And I have to admit...yes, I guess I'm more innocent than I thought. I had NO idea of the second meaning of "pearl necklace". OMG!
I'm blushing even typing it. (For those similarly impaired in knowledge as I was, a Web site called "Urban Dictionary" references it...)
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
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Muggum had a blog post earlier today that said he was out of town and thus wouldn't make it to his usual posting spots this week, but he will be back next week
Anyone know where those are? I want to soak up every bit of JS2 info (other than the "other forum," that is. I know about that one.) No, seriously, I'm not a over-zealous fan. Not me. No way. :)
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A fellow Schmo-fan and I are trying to plan around it
Wow! The show's already inspiring meets for obsessive fans around the globe! It'll be like a Star Trek convention, only with less polyester! :D
By the way, for anyone, show related or otherwise, who might be in the know...I'm very interested to hear what kind of share it got on Tuesday.
Posted by: Inundated
quote:
Originally posted by YCantAngieRead
By the way, for anyone, show related or otherwise, who might be in the know...I'm very interested to hear what kind of share it got on Tuesday.
Don't expect too much, unfortunately. I did a Google search, and came up with this small tidbit in the "returned results" thing...unfortunately, the full text is only for pay subscribers of Daily Variety:
"Elsewhere, the sophomore bow bow of Spike TV's original reality series "Joe Schmo 2" fell victim to the NBA Finals. In the core ... "
Body slammed by the Pistons! That's gotta hurt! ;)
The good news? That's over, and as far as I can see, no other big sports event finals are in the way through mid-August... and remember last year... it'll *build*.
One other note: A friend of mine notes that our favorite show was brought up today on a nationally syndicated "hot talk" show by a pair of Washington, DC based radio people (Westwood One/WJFK-FM's "Don and Mike" for those who keep track of radio - they're popular in markets like Baltimore and Sacramento...we don't get 'em here in Ohio).
Apparently, one of the hosts said he hadn't gotten around to watching it yet - he has a TiVo - but that his college-age son was a "huge fan" of TJSS, and has been bugging him to watch it!
Posted by: DancnDude
quote:
Originally posted by Inundated
And I have to admit...yes, I guess I'm more innocent than I thought. I had NO idea of the second meaning of "pearl necklace". OMG!
I'm blushing even typing it. (For those similarly impaired in knowledge as I was, a Web site called "Urban Dictionary" references it...)
I didn't get the double meaning either so I looked it up on said website and now I've been corrupted! :o
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
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(Westwood One/WJFK-FM's "Don and Mike" for those who keep track of radio - they're popular in markets like Baltimore and Sacramento...we don't get 'em here in Ohio).
Apparently, one of the hosts said he hadn't gotten around to watching it yet - he has a TiVo - but that his college-age son was a "huge fan" of TJSS, and has been bugging him to watch it!
Aw man, I miss Don & Mike. And I can't believe his son is college aged-last I got to listen to them regularly was back when he wasn't even in high school.
I have to admit, though, when I saw the first incarnation of JS1, I thought to myself how much those two guys would love this show, and that it'd be cool if they'd plug it. Back in the day, they used to plug the hell outta King Of Queens, and that show got immensely popular.
They've also got a HUGE male following (surprise!) who are VERY loyal, which is why I though this would be a good fit for them.
Posted by: wendiness
quote:
Originally posted by YCantAngieRead
It'll be like a Star Trek convention, only with less polyester! :D
What's so funny about polyester? :D
Posted by: wendiness
quote:
Originally posted by Inundated
And I have to admit...yes, I guess I'm more innocent than I thought. I had NO idea of the second meaning of "pearl necklace". OMG!
I'm blushing even typing it. (For those similarly impaired in knowledge as I was, a Web site called "Urban Dictionary" references it...)
Okay, I'll fess up. I didn't know either. For awhile there, I thought I was the only one so it's nice to know there were others. And, yes, I finally found out on Urban Dictionary.
Anybody want to take a stab at guessing the next eliminant (yeah, I made that up - or I think I did)? My guess is it's somebody who wasn't too prominently featured last week because they wouldn't devote too much air time to someone who's leaving. That would seem to be Ernie. Bottom line, though, is they all have so much potential as characters to drive the story. I wonder if they had to get permission from Ernest and Julio to use the name?
Posted by: Inundated
quote:
Originally posted by YCantAngieRead
They've also got a HUGE male following (surprise!) who are VERY loyal, which is why I though this would be a good fit for them.
I was thinking the same thing...their target demo would match the Spike and JS 2 target demo almost exactly.
My friend has also informed me that Don, I think it was, made a comment that they were "trying to get" Tim on the show. Don seemed, from what I'm told, unaware of Ingrid or the concept of two "Schmos" this season. Both Tim and Ingrid apparently live in DC, the radio show's home base...
I don't know if Tim or Ingrid are doing any radio interviews before the reveal (Ingrid had the one I linked to earlier in the Seattle newspaper)...
Posted by: Inundated
quote:
Originally posted by wendiness
Anybody want to take a stab at guessing the next eliminant (yeah, I made that up - or I think I did)? My guess is it's somebody who wasn't too prominently featured last week because they wouldn't devote too much air time to someone who's leaving. That would seem to be Ernie. Bottom line, though, is they all have so much potential as characters to drive the story. I wonder if they had to get permission from Ernest and Julio to use the name?
I'm thinking it's Ernie next week, too. Some of the characters seemed destined for long-term. Ingrid is apparently rooming with Eleanor, so she's probably not going anywhere anytime soon. Bryce is definitely staying a few weeks, though I predict he'll be "forced off the show" - it'll be interesting to see how they handle his departure, and if he makes his way back on the show like a certain Hutch did last season. ;)
I'm guessing Ambrosia won't be around longer than a couple of weeks, but that's just a hunch.
Posted by: Smarmy Host
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Inundated
[B]A note for Muggum, or Ralph, or anyone who can "do the math" quicker than I can (or who knows the entire airing schedule for JS2): What date would be the finale?
The show will run for 9 consecutive Tuesdays. Episode #2 is 90 min., and the finale is 2 hours, so there's your 10.5 hours of content.
Hope this helps.
-Ralph
Posted by: TIVOSciolist
quote:
Originally posted by Inundated
And I have to admit...yes, I guess I'm more innocent than I thought. I had NO idea of the second meaning of "pearl necklace". OMG!
I'm not sure a double meaning was intended as, judging from everyone's reaction here, it seems to be a pretty obscure reference. However, if it was intended, then it sounds like something that could come from the pen of Brian Keith Etheridge.
On the other hand, one cannot discount what might be lurking in the mind of one of those Stanford grads.
Posted by: cwoody222
Oh, it HAD to be intended. It was too perfect. "Can I give you a pearl necklace?" "Yes, you may" "Your neck is bare". Even the speeches made use of it. Instead of saying "I hope you keep me" they said "I hope you give ME a pearl necklace" It can't be coincidence. I'm sure they did it just to get the reaction they did from Tim.
I'm hoping Tim brings it up to one of the guys.
Posted by: hookbill
quote:
Originally posted by Inundated
And I have to admit...yes, I guess I'm more innocent than I thought. I had NO idea of the second meaning of "pearl necklace". OMG!
I'm blushing even typing it. (For those similarly impaired in knowledge as I was, a Web site called "Urban Dictionary" references it...)
ROFL!!!! Even my wife (who is a bit of a prude) got that one!
Now you know what the ZZ Top song was all about.
Posted by: getreal
Now that we all know about pearl necklaces, it should be easier to crack the code in the ZZTop song "Tube Snake Boogie" ...
:D
Looking forward to what phrase they will use when a male suitor is to be eliminated.
I can see that this season is going to surpass the original (and now cult classic) Joe Schmo Show.
Posted by: cwoody222
quote:
Originally posted by Smarmy Host
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Inundated
[B]A note for Muggum, or Ralph, or anyone who can "do the math" quicker than I can (or who knows the entire airing schedule for JS2): What date would be the finale?
The show will run for 9 consecutive Tuesdays. Episode #2 is 90 min., and the finale is 2 hours, so there's your 10.5 hours of content.
Hope this helps.
-Ralph
Warning!
Guide data for episode #2 "A Bottle of Red, a Bottle of White" is NOT showing up as 90 minutes but just as the regular 1 hour.
Also, it also does not list a repeat at 11pm Tues. like, I for one, have been recording. If you miss it at 10pm you'll have to catch it on... Sunday. I can't wait that long!
The 3rd episode doesn't show a 11pm Tues. airing either but I'm not sure if that's just because the Guide doesn't go out that far.
When are the planned rerun times?
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
quote:
I was thinking the same thing...their target demo would match the Spike and JS 2 target demo almost exactly.
My friend has also informed me that Don, I think it was, made a comment that they were "trying to get" Tim on the show. Don seemed, from what I'm told, unaware of Ingrid or the concept of two "Schmos" this season. Both Tim and Ingrid apparently live in DC, the radio show's home base...
I have actually been thinking all along that Brian would be FANTASTIC on their show. He's definitely their kind of guy. So if anyone who makes those kinds of decisions is watching-get on that! :D
One moment I totally forgot to mention until just now was Tim's aside at the very begining that was along the lines of "Dude, I'm not *that* lonely."
And also Ingrid's "Hey, guys, Cammy (I think that's her name, I'm terrible with names) here works at Baskin Robbins, so if you want a scoop later" made me laugh for no apparent reason.
Posted by: cwoody222
Didn't I read somewhere that last year's Schmo was supposed to make a guest appearance somehow on this season? Did I miss him in the first episode?
Posted by: CraigEagle
quote:
Originally posted by hookbill
ROFL!!!! Even my wife (who is a bit of a prude) got that one!
Now you know what the ZZ Top song was all about.
The Pearl Necklace line was prominently featured in a Sex in the City episode. And to be fair on Sex and the City only one of the girls had heard of it. (Guess Who).
- Craig
Posted by: TIVOSciolist
quote:
Originally posted by Inundated
I'm guessing Ambrosia won't be around longer than a couple of weeks, but that's just a hunch.
I think a good argument can be made that Ambrosia-the-Bitch might actually make it to the final two, along with Gerald-the-Gotta-be-Gay-Guy or (more likely) Bryce-the-Stalker.
On most "serious" reality dating shows, the final two people are pretty interchangeable. (Although, on Joe Millionaire I--which itself was a con--the dramatic tension was set up by have him choose between "the slut" and "the angel.")
Having the least likely candidates make it to the finals would be dangerous but also potentially more interesting. (It would be fun to watch Tim go crazy trying to understand how Piper could be attracted to a potential stalker.) Also, no ethnic minority has ever made it to the final two on any mainstream reality dating show. Ambrosia being there in the end would fit in with JSII's theme of sticking it to the other shows.
Posted by: hookbill
Well the first time I heard the phrase was in th 70's. Here's a link if anyone wants to see for ZZ Tops Pearl Necklace http://www.seeklyrics.com/lyrics/Zz...l-Necklace.html
Posted by: hookbill
My first thought was Ambrosia = Amorosa...right?
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
Right, Hookbill. I read that somewhere.
Is anyone else (probably not, it's probably just me) a little uncomfortable with Tim and Ingrid having alcohol at their disposal? I'd really hate for one of them to claim that they did stupid things because of it or something. But like I said earlier, I'm just really nervous something is going to get misinterpreted by the two who didn't see the first show and have no idea that the cast and crew really cares about them and their welfare.
By the way, for those of you who read Brian's recap (and I'm going to spoiler this, just in case):
Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
You guessed it. We dressed the cast members up in costumes resembling minor league baseball team mascots
My question:
Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
What, exactly is the minor league team that has Milk as their mascot? Or a banana? Although...that'd be pretty darned funny if they did. :D
Posted by: Inundated
quote:
Originally posted by Smarmy Host
The show will run for 9 consecutive Tuesdays. Episode #2 is 90 min., and the finale is 2 hours, so there's your 10.5 hours of content.
OK, so 9 consecutive Tuesdays puts the finale August 10th. Thanks!
And it's good to hear that the NEXT episode is 90 minutes. With that coming on the same day as the TJSS DVD release, that's a LOT of Schmo for one day! ;)
Posted by: Inundated
Sure enough, the Guide data for episode 2 shows an hour...so just to be safe, I padded the recording 30 minutes. I'm assuming the 11 PM Tuesday repeat doesn't show because of the longer show.
quote:
Originally posted by TIVOSciolist
I think a good argument can be made that Ambrosia-the-Bitch might actually make it to the final two, along with Gerald-the-Gotta-be-Gay-Guy or (more likely) Bryce-the-Stalker.
I just haven't seen a lot of that bitch character development out of her, though it's only been one show ;) I also am not at all familiar with most dating shows...though the stuff people know even without watching many of them has been parodied to the hilt in JS2.
quote:
Having the least likely candidates make it to the finals would be dangerous but also potentially more interesting. (It would be fun to watch Tim go crazy trying to understand how Piper could be attracted to a potential stalker.)
Yeah, as Piper was appropriately freaked out by Bryce's frog. The guy playing Bryce have to play down the stalker aspect in front of her to even remotely have a chance of getting far, at least in the stuff that Tim and Ingrid see!
quote:
Originally posted by YCantAngieRead
Is anyone else (probably not, it's probably just me) a little uncomfortable with Tim and Ingrid having alcohol at their disposal? I'd really hate for one of them to claim that they did stupid things because of it or something. But like I said earlier, I'm just really nervous something is going to get misinterpreted by the two who didn't see the first show and have no idea that the cast and crew really cares about them and their welfare.
If we know the JS crew as well as we think we do, we'd have to assume that Rhett and Paul have assigned someone to keep an eye on the booze flow. ;)
Posted by: TIVOSciolist
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Originally posted by Inundated
If we know the JS crew as well as we think we do, we'd have to assume that Rhett and Paul have assigned someone to keep an eye on the booze flow. ;)
The constant presence of the opposite sex is also a good inhibitor against overdrinking.
Examples of the civilizing effect of women (or, rather, the loss of civility in the absence of women) include:
1. On one of The Bachelorette episodes, an all-male celebration one evening resulted in a drunken contestant standing in front of his bed and urinating on the mattress.
2. On Big Brother I, after the last woman was voted out, the remaining three guys promptly got drunk. The walls of the house were splattered with paint and one contestant finally passed out face down on the lawn. Big Brother had to order the other two to turn the guy face up and to put him in bed.
(I recall one study finding that men also stand taller in the presence of females they found to be attractive. Women: making men sober and taller.)
Posted by: Fassade
I believe Ralph misspoke -- Episode 4 is 90 minutes, not Episode 2. The Falcon (or at least, somebody involved with the show I talked to) has spoken. =)
Posted by: cwoody222
SpikeTV.com shows episode #2 as 1 hour also so maybe Fassade is right.
But then again it also shows an 11pm Tues. rerun while the Guide data doesn't. Which do we believe - the website or Guide data?!
Posted by: Inundated
And to further confuse things: TV Guide next week lists JS2 at 9 PM and 10 PM, not 10 PM and 11 PM! Spike's Web site lists it at 10 PM Tuesday and 11 PM, but for some odd reason, they list "MXC" at 11:30.
I might just leave the padding in there just in case!
Posted by: Smarmy Host
My apologies ... I meant to say Ep. #4, not #2, is 90 minutes ...
I mistyped ... Sorry for the confusion.
-R
Posted by: Fassade
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And to further confuse things: TV Guide next week lists JS2 at 9 PM and 10 PM, not 10 PM and 11 PM! Spike's Web site lists it at 10 PM Tuesday and 11 PM, but for some odd reason, they list "MXC" at 11:30.
When the demons of TV confuse me at times like this, I just chalk it up to yet another reason why God invented TiVO. =)
(Edited to fix typo -- becuz i don spel soo gud.)
Posted by: cwoody222
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Originally posted by Inundated
And to further confuse things: TV Guide next week lists JS2 at 9 PM and 10 PM, not 10 PM and 11 PM! Spike's Web site lists it at 10 PM Tuesday and 11 PM, but for some odd reason, they list "MXC" at 11:30.
I might just leave the padding in there just in case!
I didn't even notice MXC in there at 11:30. I really hate it when networks can't even get their OWN schedules right.
That SpikeTV grid is really hard to read, too. Who the heck laid it out like that?!
Posted by: getreal
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Originally posted by YCantAngieRead
And also Ingrid's "Hey, guys, Cammy here works at Baskin Robbins, so if you want a scoop later" made me laugh for no apparent reason.
For some reason, I can only imagine TWO big scoops. on a side-by-side cone -- with a cherry on top of each scoop -- from Cammy.
Yummmm ....
Posted by: melsbud
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Originally posted by hookbill
ROFL!!!! Even my wife (who is a bit of a prude) got that one!
Now you know what the ZZ Top song was all about.
Y'know, I thought I was pretty much on the up and up on these sex terms, but after visiting Urban Dictionary, I'm officially traumatized. :eek:
And thanks, Hookbill, for rubbing salt into the wound. ;) I went to ask my mother, one ZZ Top fan, if she knew the "real" meaning of the song, and she matter-of-factly told me what it meant. Nary a blink or a breath.
Has the world gone mad????!!!
Posted by: mrpayroll
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Originally posted by Supfreak26
ahhh... He's the Tobias of Joe Schmoe 2! :)
Arrested Development reference! :up:
Chris
Posted by: mrpayroll
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Originally posted by Fassade
becuz i don spel soo gud.)
You smell just fine!
Chris
Posted by: Inundated
Copied from the other thread:
FWIW - JS2, Episode 1 has a couple of repeats that were apparently just added by Spike.
The first is TONIGHT at 10 PM ET, and then there's another Saturday night at 11 PM ET. (Before these were added, the next repeat would have been Sunday night at 8 PM, which is still on the schedule.)
My TiVo guide data hasn't yet picked up these repeats, so they must have JUST been added by the network. I forced a daily call and will see if this eventually picks up the new information... the new repeats ARE listed on Zap2It.com, which uses the same (Tribune) data.
BTW, tonight's 10 PM episode, for those looking to record it who missed it earlier this week, is at the same time as the season premiere of Monk on USA Network. But Monk itself repeats the premiere at 12 AM ET...
Posted by: mrpayroll
Good ole Inundated :up: always on the repeat case! ;)
Chris
Posted by: melsbud
Quick question, someone mentioned either on this thread or another one about how they recognized Jana/"Cammy" and "Eleanor" almost immediately from previous work. Where are they from? (Or is Jana's work something that my virgin eyes and ears would be unfamiliar with?) ;)
Posted by: Inundated
I don't recognize ANY of the actors in this year's show. I must not watch nearly as much TV as many others do!
To update my earlier message...the JS2 repeats have now shown up in my TiVo guide, after forcing a manual call. The TiVo calls out (actually via network) about once every 2 days or so, and had last done its call Thursday, apparently before Spike slipped in the new repeats.
Our man Muggum is on the case again, with another update to the Schmo-blog today...check it out!
http://schmoblog.spiketv.com/
Posted by: Hydian
I see the stalker being forcibly booted after a few episodes and then being spotted a bit later staring from the bushes. :)
Ernie is certainly going to be the first male to go I think.
Posted by: melsbud
Welcome, Hydian!! :)
And yeah, I agree with you, I think Ernie'll be the first to go.
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
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I went to ask my mother, one ZZ Top fan, if she knew the "real" meaning of the song, and she matter-of-factly told me what it meant. Nary a blink or a breath.
Holy crap. This didn't traumatize you but the urban dictionary did? I can only imagine the years of therapy I'd have to get if A) I asked my mother about that and B) she knew the answer. :)
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Ernie is certainly going to be the first male to go I think.
Plus, that would also parody the two Average Joes by making the large guy go first.
Edit #1: Shameless plug for the new season of Monk. Watch it. Seriously.
Edit #2: Can someone dummy up all the information on when episode 202 is going to air? I am so confused. :D
Posted by: cwoody222
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Originally posted by YCantAngieRead
Edit #2: Can someone dummy up all the information on when episode 202 is going to air? I am so confused. :D
Well, we all (now) agree that 202 is 60min long.
SpikeTV.com says it's on Tues 10p, Tues 11p (but only for :30min?!), Wed 11p and 11:30 - wha? OK, ignore SpikeTV.com... ;)
Zap2It.com says it's on:
Tues 10p
6/27 8p
6/28 11:05p
6/29 9p
That's also what my TiVo says.
However, there are many more reruns of 201 so we could assume more of 202 will be added later and the Guide Data updated. But that's an assumption.
My conflicts w/ the 10p showing were Nip/Tuck - can't record the 11pm rerun due to padding, don't want to wait until later in the week, and Real World. I realized RW only had 2 more episodes so I just shifted those last two episodes individually to one of a multitude of reruns... and set up JS2 for the first time it airs every week to be safe.
Does that confuse everyone?! :)
Posted by: wendiness
Well, thinking about it some more, I'm thinking perhaps TJ (the playa) will be the first eliminant (yes, I'm sticking to my new word until it becomes legendary). Ernie could just be so much more fun.
For those who misse the chat with Rita (the lush - who I thought was terrific), they've already made some changes to the script following Ingrid's suspicions. She was supposed to invade the hot-tub party in a glorious drunken state but it was felt they might be pushing re Ingrid's vigilant lookout for anything too over the top. I also heard (was it posted here?) that the location had two hot tubs and neither one was working right. Consequently, they were luxuriating in tepid water, at best. Rita also said Ingrid's comments threw the production into a much greater panic than was evident. I'll bet!
I'm also curious why it was felt advantageous to keep Matt in a room alone but, in this case, they have Ingrid and Tim sharing (not with each other - not yet, anyway).
I agree with another poster that The Stalker will likely be put out to pasture only to return. Hope it doesn't freak out Tim and Ingrid too much.
For awhile there I thought Rita would stay on and, recognizing she didn't stand a change with Austin, would put the moves on Ernie (rich, winery, lush, makes sense to me). But I realize it would have seem damned odd to Ingrid for Austin to keep Rita. Too bad, could've been fun.
I'm getting a little creepy feeling that Ingrid, given enough time, could turn out to be a bit scheming (that's a nice way to say you-know-what). First of all, Matt was, well, Matt. Secondly, Ingrid is a female and, being one, we have a different way of dealing with competition (not me, of course, I'm above all that. I am, too.)
Posted by: TIVOSciolist
I'm curious about the rest of the country but, in the San Francisco Bay Area, the original showing of JSII had two or three commercials from match.com.
I can see why a dating service might want to advertise on a program like "The Bachelor." However, I've been stumped all week as to the reason why match.com would advertise on this show. Didn't the sales rep mention in passing that this was a fake show?
I recall that the United States Army used to air a lot of recruiting commercials on the Fox comedy "Married with Children." That our government would troll for recruits from this audience was scary, albeit understandable from a demographic standpoint.
Maybe it's just me but nothing on JSII put me into a romantic mood or made me want to run to the computer to sign up for a dating service.
Posted by: fluffynurse
What if the producers are playing a trick on US & Jane Schmo is really an actor too? She knows too much. That would be an interesting twist.
Posted by: Inundated
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Originally posted by wendiness
Well, thinking about it some more, I'm thinking perhaps TJ (the playa) will be the first eliminant (yes, I'm sticking to my new word until it becomes legendary). Ernie could just be so much more fun.
Agreed. I'm guessing there are a few more nuggets to be mined from Ernie than from T.J. Plus, in the latest blog by a certain executive producer we'll probably hear from here next week, he notes that the actor playing Ernie was actually *brought back* for the role after it'd changed...from the original "usual corpulent contestant" you see on shows like Average Joe, to an heir to the JERGENS fortune, a take on that Firestone heir on "The Bachelor".
They had kept Steve Mallory along all that time, doing some "stand-in for Joe Schmo" work, and liked him so much they rejiggered the role to the current "Ernie Gallo".
All this means, to me, that they'll keep Steve around for a while. ;)
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Rita also said Ingrid's comments threw the production into a much greater panic than was evident. I'll bet!
Part of the problem here was that the comments were basically at the end of the show, and there wasn't a lot of TIME to get into it. Rhett's hurried direction to "get Tim out of there!" was uttered at about 58 minutes into episode 1. So, I suspect, they'll have a LOT of fodder starting with the opening minutes of #2.
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I'm also curious why it was felt advantageous to keep Matt in a room alone but, in this case, they have Ingrid and Tim sharing (not with each other - not yet, anyway).
Re: that last comment...I see you and I are on the same page, as usual ;)
Interesting question, though. I know Matt got the big room with the bidet alone as a result of a "contest" (can't remember which one it was). But he also bunked at the beginning with Earl and Dr. Pat, and I suspect that interaction drove some of the risk-taking with putting Tim and Ingrid in rooms with other "cast" members. Also, it may be harder to set up opportunities to give Tim or Ingrid a solo room...there aren't enough rooms in the house, I presume, to give *everyone* a separate bedroom, at least at the opening, and maybe they think it'd look funny to Tim or Ingrid if they were the only ones not bunking with others.
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I agree with another poster that The Stalker will likely be put out to pasture only to return. Hope it doesn't freak out Tim and Ingrid too much.
One thought crossed my mind...if Bryce goes way over the line (in character, of course :), what if Tim or Ingrid thinks it's so bad, they need to call the police??? ;)
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For awhile there I thought Rita would stay on and, recognizing she didn't stand a change with Austin, would put the moves on Ernie (rich, winery, lush, makes sense to me). But I realize it would have seem damned odd to Ingrid for Austin to keep Rita. Too bad, could've been fun.
Yes, don't forget that pretty much every interpersonal move on the show is dictated by the need to run it through Piper and Austin. There could be other interesting romantic "pairings" on the show, but if Austin or Piper wouldn't buy keeping them in the competition, they may not have much life. One exception: if for some reason something develops between Tim and Ingrid (who conveniently live in the same metro area, Washington, DC), I'm guessing they'll turn the show on a dime to insure that nothing gets in the way of that.
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I'm getting a little creepy feeling that Ingrid, given enough time, could turn out to be a bit scheming (that's a nice way to say you-know-what). First of all, Matt was, well, Matt. Secondly, Ingrid is a female and, being one, we have a different way of dealing with competition (not me, of course, I'm above all that. I am, too.)
You are :)
As I told you elsewhere...I do LIKE Ingrid. She's smart, she seems nice... but this could be one of those situations where the reaction to the situation defines the woman (or man in Tim's case). Matt came out of it smelling like the proverbial rose, because even in the nutty setting of a faux reality show, he was solid and showed his character. Who knows how Tim and Ingrid will react in the same situation? Can't wait to find out!
Posted by: Inundated
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Originally posted by TIVOSciolist
Maybe it's just me but nothing on JSII put me into a romantic mood or made me want to run to the computer to sign up for a dating service.
The whole match.com campaign is noted in this press release:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040616/law035_1.html
It doesn't appear they were going for the content of the show, but rather, are looking at its success last year...
"Units will also air in high profile environments such as Joe Schmo 2 on Spike TV, Sex and the City on TBS and Nip/Tuck on FX."
High profile! ;)
I think they're just aiming for demographics here, and aren't thinking of the content of the show. And that's just fine, IMHO. For one, I'm one who wouldn't care about the "faux dating show" in relation to the content of that advertiser. And they're likely to get a smarter audience than the U.S. Army got with "Married with Children"!
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Originally posted by fluffynurse
What if the producers are playing a trick on US & Jane Schmo is really an actor too? She knows too much. That would be an interesting twist.
Look, JS1 fans! Our first "one of them could be an actor" post for JS2! ;)
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
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I can see why a dating service might want to advertise on a program like "The Bachelor." However, I've been stumped all week as to the reason why match.com would advertise on this show. Didn't the sales rep mention in passing that this was a fake show?
Well, Inundated just blew giant holes in my theory. :D I was just going to speculate that it was probably something Match.com did in order to get ads on Spike and not necessarily JS2. It'd be a way to target their target male audience.
Posted by: Inundated
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Originally posted by YCantAngieRead
Well, Inundated just blew giant holes in my theory. :D I was just going to speculate that it was probably something Match.com did in order to get ads on Spike and not necessarily JS2. It'd be a way to target their target male audience.
Well, Spike TV head Albie Hecht did say in a press release that TJSS got great ratings in that "target demo"...so why not advertise on the highest profile "new original" show on that male-skewing network? You're not THAT far off... :)
Speaking of which, I wonder how the new show is playing in the ratings with women. I'm sure the female viewer numbers for TJSS were an unexpected (and pleasant) bonus for Spike, the network which all but puts a "NO GIRLZ ALLOWED!" sign up at its electronic door. ;) It'd be nice to hear that the new version is drawing women in similar numbers, and I suspect the premise of JS2 - skewing dating shows - may bring in even more women viewers.
Posted by: ufo4sale
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Originally posted by fluffynurse
What if the producers are playing a trick on US & Jane Schmo is really an actor too? She knows too much. That would be an interesting twist.
Let's not play that game again. Have we learn nothing from the first Joe Schmo.
Posted by: TIVOSciolist
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Originally posted by fluffynurse
What if the producers are playing a trick on US & Jane Schmo is really an actor too? She knows too much. That would be an interesting twist.
The conspiracy is even more insidious than this.
Apparently SpikeTV even set up a fake genealogy page for the Wiese family on-line, complete with fake names for Ingrid's parents and her six brothers and sisters, fake E-mail addresses, and fake birthdates. SpikeTV has even arranged with the graduate school at Syracuse University for a fake E-mail address for Ingrid Wiese.
The faux website is supposedly set up by Ingrid's sister, who claims to be a professor here in San Francisco. However, this "sister" has Ingrid's birthday as both August 6 and August 8--a clear tipoff that this is all a setup. After all, who would forget a sibling's birthdate?
To lend even greater authenticity to all this, the website has cleverly been removed and now only exists in Google's cache.
This all goes to show just how much SpikeTV and Stone Stanley can accomplish with a little more planning and a lot more money. Bravo!
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
By the way, I don't think Stone Stanley is involved this time-although I could be wrong and have missed it at the end. (Entirely possible with the way my memory's serving me lately.) I did see Wernick-Reese logo at the end. (or Reese Wernick. I can't remember which.)
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Speaking of which, I wonder how the new show is playing in the ratings with women. I'm sure the female viewer numbers for TJSS were an unexpected (and pleasant) bonus for Spike, the network which all but puts a "NO GIRLZ ALLOWED!" sign up at its electronic door.
See, this concerns me a little. I'm not a big fan of Spike's other programming, really. I don't think, had I not caught Joe Schmo 1 back when the network was brand new, that I would have even given JS2 a try. (Although, considering how funny it is and the amount of channel surfing I used to do, I there's a good chance I might have landed on it eventually.)
Guess what I'm saying is that Spike may be shooting itself with regards to this show. Although I will say this, the show and the network ARE a good fit, demographic wise. Women just need to be a little more open to guy-humor. :D
Posted by: fluffynurse
Originally posted by fluffynurse
What if the producers are playing a trick on US & Jane Schmo is really an actor too? She knows too much. That would be an interesting twist.
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Look, JS1 fans! Our first "one of them could be an actor" post for JS2!
Innundated - - Do I get a prize for this? LOL I've been reading boards all over the net & haven't seen anyone speculate on this. You gotta admit it would be funny. Like haha on the audience too!
Posted by: midas
Getting back to the point of informing the audience about some of the inner workings, I'm glad. Like the thing about the early eliminations of the minorities. I don't watch any of those reality shows, including the dating ones. So a lot of the parody stuff just goes over my head. It's hard to pick up on parody when you've not seen what's being lampooned.
Posted by: mrpayroll
John, from The Fort, posted this this afternoon:
I watched this this morning, the first episode of Joe Schmo I've ever seen. I was giggling all the way through it. It was funnier than I expected.
Everyone was hilarious. Tim looked like he was going to cry he was laughing so hard during the Pearl Necklace elimination ceremony. And the Stalker was VERY good at his role.
Ingrid definitely thinks there's something wonky going on.
To which I replied:
John, welcome to the Schmovolution! :p
Chris
Posted by: mrpayroll
quote:
Originally posted by fluffynurse
What if the producers are playing a trick on US & Jane Schmo is really an actor too? She knows too much. That would be an interesting twist.
Hey fluffy, welcome, you made it over! :)
Chris
Posted by: mrpayroll
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Originally posted by ufo4sale
Let's not play that game again. Have we learn nothing from the first Joe Schmo.
We still don't know 100% sure that Matt was not in on it! ;)
Chris
Posted by: TIVOSciolist
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Originally posted by MitchO
I, too feel like i missed the Matt appearance. Was he on the cutting room floor, or was the information about when he appears garbled? I think, since Tim and Ingrid have never seen TJSS1, that it would have been funny to make Matt one of the three guys that immediately got a "black ball". Risky, but hysterical.
Here's a link to a spoiler about Matt Kennedy Gould's appearance on JSII:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04165/330702.stm
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Originally posted by mrpayroll
John, from The Fort, posted this this afternoon: . . .
I peeked over at the FoRT and saw that Rhett posted a short rebuttal yesterday to something John wrote.
On your best behavior everyone! Muggum's back in town!
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
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John, from The Fort, posted this this afternoon:
I watched this this morning, the first episode of Joe Schmo I've ever seen. I was giggling all the way through it. It was funnier than I expected.
Man, am I glad he actually watched the show. I feel (or would feel [and have felt], if he were still being negative about the show, which it looks like he isn't) that it was unfair for him to be so cranky without ever having watched the show himeslf. Good for him!
I'm still sticking here, though. I hope others do with me because I'd be awfully lonely discussing crap with myself. :D
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Getting back to the point of informing the audience about some of the inner workings, I'm glad. Like the thing about the early eliminations of the minorities. I don't watch any of those reality shows, including the dating ones. So a lot of the parody stuff just goes over my head. It's hard to pick up on parody when you've not seen what's being lampooned.
Midas, it's interesting you should bring this up. Before JS1, I rarely watched any reality programming. Now I watch quite a bit. That's one of the things I love about this show...it treads the fine line between "too inside for non-reality people" and "not parody enough." I've now had a chance to enjoy both sides of the reality/non-reality thing, and it's really funny either way.
Posted by: Graymalkin
I, too, have finally gotten around to watching the first episode of season 2. This is freakin' hilarious!
Now I'll have to go rent season 1.
Posted by: mrpayroll
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Originally posted by YCantAngieRead
I'm still sticking here, though. I hope others do with me because I'd be awfully lonely discussing crap with myself. :D
Sorry, I'm a 2 timer! :D
Chris
Posted by: midas
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Originally posted by YCantAngieRead
Midas, it's interesting you should bring this up. Before JS1, I rarely watched any reality programming. Now I watch quite a bit. That's one of the things I love about this show...it treads the fine line between "too inside for non-reality people" and "not parody enough." I've now had a chance to enjoy both sides of the reality/non-reality thing, and it's really funny either way.
Well I know this was discussed previously, and I surely don't want to get this thread off-track. But it's probably wrong of me to say I don't watch ANY reality shows. I do watch Cops and Last Comic Standing. I suppose in a general sense, those are reality shows.
And I do my best not to judge what other people choose to watch. But I don't watch things such as the bachelor shows or Survivor or Big Brother. But I know lots of people do.
Actually, when Survivor first came out, I was going to watch it. I thought it was going to be a bunch of people actually stranded somewhere and it would be up to them to crack and ask to be removed when faced with the decision of death or survival. Alas that wasn't what the show was about.
Posted by: Inundated
A Google search on Ingrid's name contains a wealth of hits, including some of the ones TiVoSciolist posted earlier. Here's one from some of her overseas interning... a little bio she wrote herself:
"Ingrid Wiese. I am currently living in Bijeljina, BiH doing an internship with the democratization department within the OSCE. This internship runs concurrently with my International Relations MA work at the Maxwell School, Syracuse University. My interests are intercultural communication and negotiations within Europe. I am a previous business owner, who has only recently re-entered the academic world. I spent the summer in Rome working with the UN WFP and am interested in the role of IGO's in developing countries."
Ingrid has to be the most "overqualified for life contestant" in the history of the genre. ;) One day, when she's negotiating a peace treaty or something, we'll remember her days as "Jane Schmo"...
Ingrid also wrote two opinion pieces for the school newspaper at the University of Washington. (The links don't work for some reason, but you can get them through the Google cache.) The articles and E-Mail address at Syracuse University would indicate that "Ingrid" is her middle name, and her first initial is "M.". Hmm! They also provide some fascinating insight into her personality, at least a few years ago.
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Originally posted by YCantAngieRead
By the way, I don't think Stone Stanley is involved this time-although I could be wrong and have missed it at the end. (Entirely possible with the way my memory's serving me lately.) I did see Wernick-Reese logo at the end. (or Reese Wernick. I can't remember which.)
Stone Stanley is aboard again as well. I saw both logos at the end of JS2/Episode 1.
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Man, am I glad he actually watched the show. I feel (or would feel [and have felt], if he were still being negative about the show, which it looks like he isn't) that it was unfair for him to be so cranky without ever having watched the show himeslf. Good for him!
Wow. JS must be amazing...IT'S CONVERTED JOHN FROM THE FORT! :o :o
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Originally posted by fluffynurse
Innundated - - Do I get a prize for this? LOL I've been reading boards all over the net & haven't seen anyone speculate on this. You gotta admit it would be funny. Like haha on the audience too!
Check out the still existing thread on the first show right here on TC...
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...threadid=130300
(all 80 billion pages of it!) ;)
We spent a lot of time going over the "is Matt an actor" thread. A LOT of time. We had running gags on it, even! ;) That's why it was so funny. Many of us were convinced that Matt could not possibly be an actor, and that's how it turned out. I don't think Tim and Ingrid are actors, either... (there's too much backstory that checks out, for one, especially on Ingrid...see above) But speculation on what is real, what is not, and what could happen are part of what makes the show so fun. Welcome aboard! (And there's only one "n" in my login name ;) )
Posted by: mrcoaster
Ah, yes. The JS1 "he's an actor and the joke's on us" debates were quite hilarious last year. The show itself was great, but to TRULY maximize your hilarity, it helps to combine the viewing of the show with the Schmo discussion here (and now the blogs over at Spike). I see the commentary is up to the usual snuff around here this week.
Enjoyed the first ep, like everybody else. We were cracking up from the get-go. From the elimination of the minorities right off the bat, to the arrival of Derek and onward. Ingrid's reactions to the cheesy lines were great and my girlfriend and I were rolling watching Tim try to keep from laughing out loud at the ceremony. Eagerly looking forward to ep 2 and seeing how things progress.
What's going to be your bee costume this time, Ralph? ;) Beautiful job as Derek so far. Things are looking good.
I have converted a lot of people to viewers this time around. I have a few co-workers with DVRs that gave me email adresses back in the spring asking me to make sure to let them know when the show started. The JS1 marathon last weekend was perfect and allowed for folks who missed the first one to get in on the fun. The majority of the new fans I've converted are women, too.
Posted by: Inundated
OK, the falcon has spoken...the Spike TV scheduling execs need to be taken out back by the woodshed!
The "newly scheduled" JS2 repeat set for 11 PM ET this evening, which showed up on the Spike TV Web site AND the Tribune TV data (used not only by Zap2It, but our beloved TiVo), IS NOT AIRING AT 11 PM TONIGHT.
This, despite the fact that all of the above sources say it will air! My TiVo, based on updated guide data I got yesterday, thinks it's happily recording JS2, when it's actually recording "MXC".
Rhett? If you're talking to the Spike TV folks...can you please tell them to get the repeat schedule straight? Please???
Signed,
Frustrated in Ohio
Posted by: boywaja
that makes up for earlier this week when they ran Schmo instead of the MXC that was scheduled. (I have SPs for both)
Posted by: Inundated
Update: It looks like the JS2 showing once scheduled for 11 PM tonight, will now air at midnight, according to Zap2It.com (which again, uses the same data as TiVo's guide does, Tribune Media). I am doing yet another manual connect - at least it doesn't take THAT long over the network, aside from indexing - and will try to set up a recording here in a few minutes.
Spike's site NOW says "Saturday 12 AM", which presumably is Saturday night/Sunday morning, or in about 23 minutes from now. My guide data is now indexing, so we'll see...hopefully it'll be out by then!
Posted by: mrcoaster
Thanks for the update, Inundated . I have 2 ladies IM-ing me right now and they're not happy about Joe Schmo not being on like their guide data said it would!
I have told them the new corrected information and hope it comes on. Otherwise, I have to explain myself!! ;)
Posted by: melsbud
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Originally posted by TIVOSciolist
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I peeked over at the FoRT and saw that Rhett posted a short rebuttal yesterday to something John wrote.
On your best behavior everyone! Muggum's back in town!
Yeah, I PMed Rhett to applaud him on it. I wonder if John from the FORT decided to actually give the show a chance before or after Rhett stood up for himself. I'd almost be willing to forgive John if I could forget the month of unexplained banning, and his big bully on a playground attitude towards a lot of loyal FORT members. (Hear me on this one, Angie?)
Posted by: Inundated
OK, Inundated Updates the JS2 Repeat Schedule continues...
The guide data update did bring in the midnight showing of JS2/Ep. 1 (just 8 minutes from right now!). And during MXC, Spike just ran a promo for Ep. 2, and the super on the screen said "PREMIERE EPISODE - COMING UP NEXT".
However, when I set up the recording, it said JS2/Ep. 1 at midnight is 30 minutes long! Even though...well, it shows up on the onscreen TiVo guide as lasting from midnight to 1 AM. I padded it 30 minutes just to be sure, and will manually stop the recording if it doesn't stop at 1 AM.
(Yes, I missed getting Ep. 1 earlier this week...I was away from my TiVo, and it was my fault...too much else was piling up in "Best Quality" mode, and the episodes got recorded and deleted for space! My bad. I also didn't have KUID set in the JS2 SP...)
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
Um....am I the only loser at home at 10:54 on Saturday night? I was just surfing around and discovered that Joe Schmo: On With The Schmo is on on MTV! I thought it was a preview and then it kept going and going....
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Yeah, I PMed Rhett to applaud him on it. I wonder if John from the FORT decided to actually give the show a chance before or after Rhett stood up for himself. I'd almost be willing to forgive John if I could forget the month of unexplained banning, and his big bully on a playground attitude towards a lot of loyal FORT members. (Hear me on this one, Angie?)
Actually, for the most part, I have no problem with John (I do have a problem with a couple of his pals, but that's another matter...) other than his not giving Joe Schmo a chance and kind of crapping all over the thread from time to time. But it's his little piece of the internet so I have no problem with him running it the way he wants to (even if it/he did run me off.)
I actually was impressed with John's comments on Joe Schmo after having watched it. (Although I am just a tad suspicious of his reasons, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.) And I am VERY glad he gave it a shot-his is a pretty big reality board and JS deserved more space there. He could well have just called all us fans obstinate and written the whole show off.
I'm still not going back, though. (Unless I change my name.) Hopefully someone will keep me posted if there are huge revelations over there. :D
And back to the Schmo...
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
And I totally forgot the real reason I started a post....
When I turned to MTV, the part that was on was Bryce's mini-rant in Gerald's room, where Tim is sitting next to him on the bed.
There's this classic shot of Matt just staring at Bryce for an inordinately long period of time when Bryce isn't talking-and he has this look of incredulity on his face.
That was CLASSIC. And if I were the guy playing Matt, it'd been SO hard to keep a straight face. That guy's a top notch actor.
Posted by: muggum
Hey all!
Sorry for my absence. I'm still in New York City, but after some trial and error, I remembered my password, so I'm here...
Thanks so much for all the buzz and posting about the show! It's been really fun reading all the posts. There have been so many since I last came on that I forget all the questions I was supposed to answer... so if you have an important one, please re-ask it.
To dispel rumors once again, Joe and Jane are *not* actors! I know 99 percent of you trust me this time, but I'm still trying to win over that last 1 percent... =)
Inundated, I am completely out of the loop on the rerun schedule. Spike has gone into re-run overdrive to boost viewership in time for episode 2. They even aired an episode on MTV from what I understand!
Again, thanks for all the nice comments. Glad we didn't let you down!
R
Posted by: Inundated
Sure enough, MTV did quietly run JS2/Ep. 1 at 11 PM tonight. (Maybe THAT was part of the confusion over the repeat schedule!) It's listed on their schedule for tonight, though the TiVo didn't pick it up - likely, as has been the case the past 2 days, it was just added. Last minute cable network schedule changes, don'tcha just love 'em?
It's an excellent move...a good way to get the MTV audience to sample JS2. And speaking of which...
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Inundated, I am completely out of the loop on the rerun schedule. Spike has gone into re-run overdrive to boost viewership in time for episode 2. They even aired an episode on MTV from what I understand!
Didn't see ya over there, Rhett!
I believe you probably got hammered on the premiere night by the very-male-skewing-very-top-rated NBA Finals. (I'm guessing it'd have been a much different story if the Pistons swept in 4 games...) But I'm confident that it'll pick up steam just like TJSS did. Word of mouth is spreading just as fast as it did for the first season.
Now, this is a bit of weird reality-TV-turned-reality. As I'm typing this message, my TiVo is dutifully and finally recording Episode 1...and as I'm typing a response to Rhett, he shows up onscreen explaining the "minority eviction" scene. My head is about to explode or something with all the synchronicity!
Posted by: muggum
Hehe, that is a little odd, huh?
=)
Posted by: TIVOSciolist
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Originally posted by YCantAngieRead
Hey, just for future reference, Stone, you could always use a terribly underrated actress with a theatre degree and who is from Central Illinois, who just happens to be free at the moment. :D
Muggum:
If you should need a day player next year for JS III to play the role of Black Balled Contestant #2, please keep me in mind. Southwest Airlines flies out of here to L.A. every hour.
If you ever decide to do a fully scripted drama, I'm also qualified to play Dead Body #1.
Posted by: melsbud
This post has been edited because after typing out a bunch of questions, I finally came across Rhett's blog. So here are the other ones...
And how did you find Jonathan - or as we call him up north - Jono?? Had you seen any of his previous work? He's something of, I wouldn't say an icon, but a beloved actor in Canada.
Ok, last question, I swear - Where did you recruit Tim?
That's all for now! It's stifling hot. I need to sprawl.
Posted by: mrpayroll
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Originally posted by YCantAngieRead
Hopefully someone will keep me posted if there are huge revelations over there. :D
And back to the Schmo...
:up: I'm your man!
Chris
Posted by: TIVOSciolist
quote:
Originally posted by Inundated
Sure enough, MTV did quietly run JS2/Ep. 1 at 11 PM tonight. (Maybe THAT was part of the confusion over the repeat schedule!) It's listed on their schedule for tonight, though the TiVo didn't pick it up - likely, as has been the case the past 2 days, it was just added. Last minute cable network schedule changes, don'tcha just love 'em?
It's an excellent move...a good way to get the MTV audience to sample JS2. And speaking of which...
I'm glad that MTV ran JSII tonight at 11 p.m. However, the viewing audience might have been larger if both TV Guide and the on-screen cable television grid listing here in San Francisco did not have: "MTV. 10:00 p.m. To be announced. (2:00)".
Posted by: ahecht
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Originally posted by Inundated
Well, Spike TV head Albie Hecht did say in a press release that TJSS got great ratings in that "target demo"...so why not advertise on the highest profile "new original" show on that male-skewing network? You're not THAT far off... :)
Speaking of which, I wonder how the new show is playing in the ratings with women. I'm sure the female viewer numbers for TJSS were an unexpected (and pleasant) bonus for Spike, the network which all but puts a "NO GIRLZ ALLOWED!" sign up at its electronic door. ;) It'd be nice to hear that the new version is drawing women in similar numbers, and I suspect the premise of JS2 - skewing dating shows - may bring in even more women viewers.
I know that many females do watch the show. In fact, earlier today I ran into my female next door neighbor who recommended that I watch this new fake reality show she had just seen (which, or course, ended up being JS2)
Oh, and no, I am not Albie Hecht.
On another note, a thought just occurred to me.
What if Ingrid's "Truman Show" comment doesn't mean what we think it meant. What we saw on TV was edited, and went something like this:
"Those were good speeches, were they rehearsed?"
"No."
"That's wierd. I feel like I'm on "The Truman Show""
But what if the conversation actually went something like this:
"Those were good speeches, were they rehearsed?"
"No. [quickly changing the subject] So, isn't it wierd to have all these cameras around following your every move?
"Yah, that's wierd. I feel like I'm on "The Truman Show""
See, the comment could've been just about having your life filmed 24/7 (although a better movie analogy would've been EdTV).
Posted by: fluffynurse
muggum -- Tell Brian Etheridge he looks great with the weight loss. He must have given up the Jimmy Dean Sausage Biscuits.
Posted by: fluffynurse
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We spent a lot of time going over the "is Matt an actor" thread. A LOT of time. We had running gags on it, even! That's why it was so funny. Many of us were convinced that Matt could not possibly be an actor, and that's how it turned out. I don't think Tim and Ingrid are actors, either... (there's too much backstory that checks out, for one, especially on Ingrid...see above) But speculation on what is real, what is not, and what could happen are part of what makes the show so fun. Welcome aboard! (And there's only one "n" in my login name )
Thanks Chris for redirecting me back here from FoRT.
I don't know why my post count has gone back to nil cause I posted here a lot during JS1. I'm familiar with the big rumor last season that Matt was "in" on the joke. I said all along he wasn't. But this year with 2 Schmos I thought it would be funny (sort of a bad joke on all the folks speculating on this back then) if one REALLY was an actor. But Rhett has already dispelled that in his post above. I hate it that he told us that up front. Part of the fun last season was "is he or isn't he".
Looks like we will have even more fun this season though with the fabulous writing & acting. What brilliance! Best TV concept ever!
Posted by: muggum
Jonathan Torrens auditioned the same as everyone else. I hadn't seen his work, but I plan to now!
R
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
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Hey, just for future reference, Stone, you could always use a terribly underrated actress with a theatre degree and who is from Central Illinois, who just happens to be free at the moment.
Geez, who was I talking to whose name/psuedonym was Stone?
I meant to add to that post that I was wholeheartedly kidding. Dead body #2 would be about the only role I could pull off (I was a terrible actor-my degree is in the behind the scenes crap). Although I could only do that role if, due to some odd fluke in the dying process, I was allowed to breathe after death. :D
Back to the Schmo, though, I was a little concerned about the timing of the MTV repeat. In my experience, the JS target audience is usually...um...less than alert at that time on a Saturday evening.
So...am I the only one speculating on the chances of both Schmos making it to the end? They set this up with the perfect way to out the one who finds out, should that happen.
Gah. I can't wait until Tuesday.
Posted by: MitchO
If we want to talk about plot speculation, here's mine ... the concern (to me) would be that if Tim and/or Ingrid would get far enough into the show to actually develop "feelings" for their would be suitors, so they have to make sure that these guys not only don't seem to attractive, but have an out ... so my theory is that we have another "rules infraction"; this one where Piper and Austin announce that they've found .. each other! :)
Posted by: TIVOSciolist
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Originally posted by Inundated
Agreed. I'm guessing there are a few more nuggets to be mined from Ernie than from T.J.
Here's my current thinking:
1. Ernie. Unless he has crazy parents who are brought in for a guest appearance, this character does not provide enough drama. He's too nice. Tim likes him and will respect him as a competitor.
2. Bryce. His character is psycho. If Piper falls for Bryce, there is a danger that Tim will write Piper off as also being in the psycho category.
3. T.J. There nothing that drives a guy more nuts than to see an attractive woman claiming to want a "nice" guy but then picking the sleaze. T.J. has the most potential for creating dramatic tension in this contest.
4. Gerald. The "seed of gay" needs a bit more watering. It's too early for him to go.
Posted by: wendiness
John at the FORT has seen the light!?????!!! What the heck was he doing dissing it when he'd never seen it? I'm wondering, like Angie, if he has some ulterior motive for the big turn around. In the meantime, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Only two more days to go!
Posted by: Mikkel_Knight
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Originally posted by MitchO
If we want to talk about plot speculation, here's mine ... the concern (to me) would be that if Tim and/or Ingrid would get far enough into the show to actually develop "feelings" for their would be suitors, so they have to make sure that these guys not only don't seem to attractive, but have an out ... so my theory is that we have another "rules infraction"; this one where Piper and Austin announce that they've found .. each other! :)
This is exactly what I said to my wife halfway through the 1st episode. Piper and Austin are gonna choose each other at the end of the show leaving Tim and Ingrid holding the bag/asking them if they'd be attendants at the televised wedding that was offered to them... something along those lines...
muggum - feel free to incorporate my storyline into what has already happened... :p ;) :D
Posted by: wendiness
Let's give a little credit to Cammy. While a lot of this is scripted, I don't believe her response to Ingrid's gift was, since nobody knew Ingrid would bring a book. "Who's Madeline Albright" was priceless!
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
Oh, I think most of us have credited Cammy with her great improv skills already. Since she was the first one to speak after the "Um...speeches, scripted?" incident, I'd say she's a pretty sharp cookie.
I'm hoping she stays for a while. Although to be honest, I don't like that ANYONE has to go home at this point. Love the characters these actors bring to life.
Posted by: Inundated
OK, here we go...!
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Originally posted by MitchO
If we want to talk about plot speculation, here's mine ... the concern (to me) would be that if Tim and/or Ingrid would get far enough into the show to actually develop "feelings" for their would be suitors, so they have to make sure that these guys not only don't seem to attractive, but have an out ... so my theory is that we have another "rules infraction"; this one where Piper and Austin announce that they've found .. each other! :)
I was just thinking about that...what I think may be one of the biggest JS2 questions..."what happens if Tim or Ingrid actually fall for Piper or Austin?"
This is the biggest worry/pitfall I see with the new show. Remember, Matt turned into a ball of tears when he thought his newly found buddy Earl was just going to be leaving the HOUSE! If Tim really gets into Piper, or Ingrid into Austin...it could be a MAJOR problem.
Then again, on the first show, they had experience with this to a small degree...they had to deflect Matt's advances/thoughts about Ashleigh and Molly. The difference here, of course, is that you can't make Piper or Austin "shoot them down", since it's against the premise of the "show"! It'll be interesting to see how they handle this. Ingrid, especially, seems to be couching her early responses in terms "it'd be nice if we can see if we can find something in common" re: Austin.
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Originally posted by TIVOSciolist
1. Ernie. Unless he has crazy parents who are brought in for a guest appearance, this character does not provide enough drama. He's too nice. Tim likes him and will respect him as a competitor.
I don't think there's a lot of "drama" out of Ernie, just quirkiness. But, since he's the token "big guy", he'll probably get thrown out early just to tweak the shows they're tweaking! The only other Ernie factor here - Ernie could very well fulfill the "Brian the Buddy" role, which would tend to keep him on longer.
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Originally posted by YCantAngieRead
So...am I the only one speculating on the chances of both Schmos making it to the end? They set this up with the perfect way to out the one who finds out, should that happen.
I was thinking this one as well. I'm guessing we're not quite at even money when it comes to the chances of both Tim and Ingrid making it through. Heck, Ingrid alone could torch those betting odds! ;)
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Originally posted by wendiness
Let's give a little credit to Cammy. While a lot of this is scripted, I don't believe her response to Ingrid's gift was, since nobody knew Ingrid would bring a book. "Who's Madeline Albright" was priceless!
The Cammy/Ingrid dynamic should be MOST interesting. Ingrid clearly doesn't have a lot of patience with Cammy's lack of intellect (re: the "Baskin-Robbins" line) and I don't think she'll be able to control herself with lines like the above. Still, she seemed almost admiring when she described Cammy's striptease act!
quote:
Originally posted by muggum
Jonathan Torrens auditioned the same as everyone else. I hadn't seen his work, but I plan to now!
Rhett, if you nutty folks decide that you can do a JS3, please let me know where to audition. I want to audition for the part of "Mike, The Nerd". ;>
quote:
Originally posted by ahecht
I know that many females do watch the show. In fact, earlier today I ran into my female next door neighbor who recommended that I watch this new fake reality show she had just seen (which, or course, ended up being JS2)
This has been happening a LOT. In addition to the radio show comments I mentioned earlier...I was in a chat room (NOT related to JS or even TV topics) last night, when one of the women in the room "shouted" to one of her online friends there... "Hey, you gotta turn on Joe Schmo!" I asked her what she thought about the show, and hinted that I may talk to folks involved in it (Hi, Rhett!), and she said for me to tell them that the show is great, and that she also thought the original was "hilarious".
Word of mouth, people! :D
One final question to Rhett or Ralph or whoever...do the people "on set" at the mansion actually hear Derek's trumpet intro out of a speaker or something? Some of their reactions seem to indicate that they do! ;)
Posted by: IndyJones1023
OMG! I haven't read this thread at all yet, but just got around to watching the first episode! This is almost as good as the first one. "Tim" seems like an actor to me, but after the first Schmoe speculation in the previous thread, I'll hold out that Rhett isn't actually duping the actors on this one.
Out of all the laughs, the pearl necklace ceremony had me busting out! I was laughing my ass off! All the pearl necklace references! It was great! Thank god I didn't watch it with my mom.
Off to catch up on this thread so far.
Here's to another success, Rhett!
Posted by: muggum
The Derek trumpet was added in post-production. Sad, but true!
R
Posted by: Inundated
quote:
Originally posted by muggum
The Derek trumpet was added in post-production. Sad, but true!
Well, then someone got them to turn around as if they heard one! ;)
Great stuff. It's getting to the point that I laugh out loud every time I hear the trumpet, for crying out loud! :D
Posted by: mrcoaster
Yeah, the trumpet was great. The whole arrival of Derek, and then Piper and Austin was great. I have to also agree that Cammy was quick on her feet a couple of times in the first episode. I would definitely like to see both Cammy and Ernie stick around a little bit. It will be interesting to see.
In the meantime, I've created my own little flock of JS fans on another forum where I do most of my posting. They're all so addicted now (and mostly female, to boot).
Thanks for the updates on everything so far, muggum.
Posted by: RTOlson
Just a quick question -- was Tim a candidate for the original Joe Schmo?
I watched the end of the original JS when they were explaining to Matt the process of finding him for the show. I swear there's one of the candidates shown in the montage who's the spitting image of Tim.
Posted by: rasheed
Ah, only episode one and this thread is so long!
Glad to see MTV airing this show (the lovely Viacom family that is). I am now also fully of the opinion that Ingrid is way over qualified for the show. Should get very intertesting.
For tracking MTV airings, one of the following links may work in the future (so far none scheduled):
http://www.mtv.com/onair/schedule/a...episodeID=80993
http://www.mtv.com/onair/schedule/a...&seriesID=13246
Rasheed
Posted by: fluffynurse
Anyone but me wonder about the mountain in the background? It looks fake & the camera makes a point of panning over it everytime they are outside. Could it have any significance in the show? It looks like it is lit up. Very pretty but very fake looking. Is that where Montecore hails from?
Posted by: Smarmy Host
That gorgeous mountain was very real, and actually the view from the backyard of the house where we shot JS2. I was so impressed by the fact that people actually had that as a backyard view, that I started to joke about being "in the shadow of Passion Rock", and it stuck!
-Ralph
Posted by: mrpayroll
quote:
Originally posted by Smarmy Host
That gorgeous mountain was very real, and actually the view from the backyard of the house where we shot JS2. I was so impressed by the fact that people actually had that as a backyard view, that I started to joke about being "in the shadow of Passion Rock", and it stuck!
-Ralph
Hey Ralph, so did that 'herbal medicine' really worked as planned? ;)
Chris
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
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Then again, on the first show, they had experience with this to a small degree...they had to deflect Matt's advances/thoughts about Ashleigh and Molly. The difference here, of course, is that you can't make Piper or Austin "shoot them down", since it's against the premise of the "show"! It'll be interesting to see how they handle this. Ingrid, especially, seems to be couching her early responses in terms "it'd be nice if we can see if we can find something in common" re: Austin.
You and I are on the same wavelength (except that obviously, I worry A LOT more. :)) on this one. Although I did realize they could do something exactly like they had Ashleigh do-I have to admit, though, it'd be harder to throw a women off with a "you're just like a sister" line. Sorta. I figure they know SO much about Tim and Ingrid, all it would take is a well placed line that has something to do with a pet peeve, and the interest would wane.
Man, I do so enjoy this forum and these threads.
Posted by: TIVOSciolist
From a description of The Joe Schmo Show DVD:
"In this wide-ranging spoof of reality shows, all of the contestants were professional actors — except one. Chosen during a nationwide audition, Matthew Kennedy Gould was told that he was going to appear on a reality show titled 'Lap of Luxury,' in which he would live a sumptuous lifestyle with several other contestants, who would be 'eliminated' from the 500,000-dollar-grand-prize sweepstakes at a rate of one person per show."
http://www.allmovie.com/cg/avg.dll?p=avg&sql=1:293484
Muggum is even more brilliant than we though.
Step #1: Ask SpikeTV for $500,000 for prize money.
Step #2: Tell our hero Matt Kennedy Gould that the prize is only $100,000.
Step #3: If caught, claim that it is all a plot element for the upcoming Joe Schmo III show.
Posted by: TIVOSciolist
quote:
Originally posted by Smarmy Host
That gorgeous mountain was very real, and actually the view from the backyard of the house where we shot JS2. I was so impressed by the fact that people actually had that as a backyard view, that I started to joke about being "in the shadow of Passion Rock", and it stuck!
During my second viewing of the show, I paused the program after you said this and tried to find something sexual out of the shape of this geological formation. Try as I wanted, I couldn't.
Sometimes a rock is just a rock.
Posted by: fluffynurse
quote:
Originally posted by Smarmy Host
That gorgeous mountain was very real, and actually the view from the backyard of the house where we shot JS2. I was so impressed by the fact that people actually had that as a backyard view, that I started to joke about being "in the shadow of Passion Rock", and it stuck!
-Ralph
Hey Ralph -- I just wanted to thank you for the headshot you sent me last year. Will Derek be passing out headshots to the contestants this year? It would be hilarious if he did! At least to us JS1 fans.
Posted by: YCantAngieRead
Oh man. I'd love a "headshot" of Derek Newcastle. That'd be hilarious.
Posted by: Homer25
hey everyone,
Homer here...
some may remember me from the FORT as Homer but I have to use Homer25 here as the Nick was taken.
glad to see everyone still around including Rhett (muggum) posting again. Makes us feel more connected to the show with the insights.
Ok... to me, Passion rock looks like (on the right) someone is flipping the bird... middle finger thingy....
Homer
PS. Is mitcho going to be doing any webcam cameos anytime soon??
Posted by: muggum
We found Tim this year, not the previous year...
M
Posted by: mrpayroll
Homer25, so 4 posts since Oct 2003? Don't go crazy!
Chris
Posted by: MitchO
Man, i'm popular :)
I'm not working in Manhattan this year, so no webcam appearances. Sorry =P
Posted by: Inundated
For what it's worth, my pre-ordered copy of the TJSS I DVD came a day early...today. I'm working my way through episode by episode. I'll view it twice per episode...once straight through, and once with commentary turned on!
Just as a note...the video quality is *EXCELLENT*!
I'm still gonna hit the stores tomorrow looking for a second copy to send to someone. Checking BestBuy.com - they have it listed in the "new releases" section, with a placeholder for store availability...a large number DVDs of the 13 pages of new releases don't have that. So, I'm assuming I'll be able to get it at Best Buy tomorrow...they usually have a pretty wide selection of TV show DVDs.
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