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Rebels & Redcoats: How the British Lost America **Expect Spoilers**
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Posted by: cptodd

Heads up!

Rebels & Redcoats: How the British Lost America is on PBS tonight. Check your local listings

Posted by: MacThor

It's so unfair for them to be putting spoilers in the title of the show......

Posted by: cptodd

It's true! So true! History is messy like that sometimes. :)

Posted by: cpalma

I have nothing to add, just LMAO at the "expect spoilers"!

Posted by: davidmin

Huh? They didn't lose America. They lost 13 colonies, but held on to Canada.

David

Posted by: dmdeane

quote:
Originally posted by davidmin
Huh? They didn't lose America. They lost 13 colonies, but held on to Canada.

Which, as you no doubt recall, is called "Canada".

Posted by: dmdeane

quote:
Originally posted by davidmin
Huh? They didn't lose America. They lost 13 colonies, but held on to Canada.

David

Technically, the British referred to the process as losing North America, not "America".

Saying that they didn't lose North America, just because they held on to Canada, is misleading. Canada wasn't worth much at the time.

And the British didn't just hold on to Canada, they "held on to" other territories in the Americas: the Bahamas, Bermuda, Jamaica, Barbados, Trinidad, etc.

The British most definitely felt it was a nearly total loss. Keeping Canada was at the time the "booby prize"; if it weren't for the fishing rights off Newfoundland and Nova Scotia, and some timber, these territories wouldn't have been worth keeping at all.

You have to remember what Canada was at the time, not what it later became. At the time, a single small caribbean island like Barbados or Martinique was worth far more to a European power than all of the future territory of Canada put together - because it generated a huge income from sugar. All Canada appeared to generate at the time, was lots of headaches and expenses, and maybe a big potential for growth, fifty years or a hundred years into the future.

What was to become Canada was at the time a recently acquired British territory, mostly a howling wilderness and unproductive region filled with Indian tribes and hostile French Canadiens.

If it weren't for the flood of displaced Tories moving into Canada after the loss of the American colonies, Britain might have had a hard time holding on to what was to later become Canada.

Posted by: dmdeane

quote:
Originally posted by MacThor
It's so unfair for them to be putting spoilers in the title of the show......

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
Benedict Arnold turns traitor.

Don't tell anyone.

Posted by: sbourgeo

The PBS web site says that this is 4 episodes, but according to TiVo there are only (2) 2 hour episodes with dual titles. Is each episode 1 hour long and shown in 2 hour blocks?

This looks interesting, especially since I live in a former Tory village. :)

Steve

Posted by: cptodd

Yes. Each episode is one hour long. They run them two at a time.

Posted by: Marco

"Spoiler"

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. :)

Posted by: cptodd

Did anyone see it and like it? I am not a fan of military history. I saw a bit of it and deleted it and the remaining season pass. Was I wrong? Was it more interesting than I though (yes I know that is a personal decision but just wanted to hear what others think)?