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Anyone want to sell a dish & lnb?
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Posted by: drmcm

Do you have an extra dish with LNB (single or dual) collecting dust? I'm thinking of giving my old DirecTV receiver to my parents, but they of course will need a dish. New dishes seem to be $40 to $60 when including an LNB. This is too much for me since they could just get a complete system as new subscribers for less. I just hate to litterally chuck a piece of working electronics if I don't have to! So, if someone wanted to part with a dish for pretty cheap, like $10 - 20, please let me know! Like did you get that 1 cent CC deal? Or if anyone knows of a really cheap deal anywhere, I'd also like to know. Thanks! -Mike

Posted by: Hokyfan

Why not have them get one of the free deals - receiver and installation - and the get a Multiswitch - and the can have DTiVo and a bedroom receiver??

Posted by: tthomasjr

Yeah, just get your parents a new free receiver dish combo and sell the old receiver on ebay. Alot of people are "looking" for old recievers. Email me and I can explain further.

Posted by: GregF

I actually live in San Francisco and would give you my old Sony dual LNB dish for 20 bucks. I do not believe that I have any mounting accessories but I could be wrong. I just slipped my newer dish onto my older mounting arm.

Actually I just checked and I have an extra mounting arm so with some nuts and bolts you should be able to mount this just fine.

Posted by: Xaa

quote:
Originally posted by tthomasjr
Yeah, just get your parents a new free receiver dish combo and sell the old receiver on ebay. Alot of people are "looking" for old recievers. Email me and I can explain further.

Tthomas,

You're a cop and are implying what I think you are?

Shame on you.

Xaa

Posted by: tthomasjr

Beyond a shadow of a doubt I do not participate in such myself, but if someone wants to pay $200-$300 for my old reciever, its on them. lol

Posted by: drmcm

Thanks for the replies, and for the offer GregF. I just might take you up on that.

The other reason I was hesitating to get them a new complete package deal is that my parents are only going to be in their current house for another 8 months. Then they are moving back to IL where they are unfortunately in an NRTC area. So I figured by simply activating a system, they won't be tied to a year long contract to essentially repay the big new system discount.

I'm going to check a little more. If anyone else knows of any great cheapo dish deals (or wants to beat Greg's offer!), do let me know!

-Mike

Posted by: GregF

Of course with me you can just drive into the city and pick it up, no postage.

Posted by: Guyy

Best thing for your parents is to not move! At least tell that to Dtv :) Being in a NRTC I'm going to guess they will not get locals anyway so it should not be a big deal that they will continue to get what ever CA locals (if any) they can now. They can change their billing address just do not change the service address..

Posted by: David Bolling

I've got a dish and single-LNB in the box unopened -- came with my DirecTiVo but I didn't need it.

But as others have said, for a new subscriber, the deals for free hardware and installation is the way you should go.

Posted by: JP Honeywell

quote:
Originally posted by tthomasjr
Yeah, just get your parents a new free receiver dish combo and sell the old receiver on ebay. Alot of people are "looking" for old recievers. Email me and I can explain further.

I have a brand new one for sale. . . but no dish to go with it.;)

Posted by: drmcm

quote:
Originally posted by Guyy
Best thing for your parents is to not move! At least tell that to Dtv :) Being in a NRTC I'm going to guess they will not get locals anyway so it should not be a big deal that they will continue to get what ever CA locals (if any) they can now. They can change their billing address just do not change the service address..

Yes, this is of course true, and they can just discontinue getting the locals as I'm sure the SF spot beam won't reach IL. However the one remaining sticking point is their trusty son won't be there to install the dish on their IL house. Yes, free professional installation out here would fine and all, but that couldn't happen back in IL without alerting DTV and/or NRTC folk. So I think they'll only have it for the 8 more months they are in CA. Of course they might start up again the next time I visit or if they find a friend willing to help with the dish install.

Thanks for all the comments, though! -Mike

Posted by: Xaa

quote:
Originally posted by tthomasjr
Beyond a shadow of a doubt I do not participate in such myself, but if someone wants to pay $200-$300 for my old reciever, its on them. lol

So you don't participate in the illegal activity, but you have no problem proffiting from it with the knowledge of it's intended use??

You're on a fine line tthomasjr. A fine line.

Xaa

Posted by: GregF

Well the good Dr. came by and picked up the dish. I just thought everyone would like to know that he is indeed using a real photograph of himself in compliance with forum rules, and he didn't rob or murder us so it's okay to invite him over to your place. :p

Posted by: tthomasjr

Xaa, Guess you would never sell me glue huh, cause I might sniff it... Maybe some paint, no I could huff it. If I want to get rid of an old reciever why in the world would I sell it for $20 when I can get $200? Cop or not! Point taken anyway. Seeya.

Posted by: Xaa

I would sell glue for close to it's face value, but if I were offered 5 to 10 times it's value, I'd question why the buyer would want to make that purchasing decision and if I believed it was to commit illegal activity I would not. If I were a cop I'd be even more skeptical.

You've already admitted you know the purpose, so your glue analogy is weak. Very weak.

So let me ask you tthomas, if you KNEW the glue was going to be sniffed or the paint was going to be huffed would you still sell it and take your large profit and turn your back on the obvious?

Oh wait, you already answered that, at least as far as stealing TV goes.

You would.

Xaa

Posted by: jsoukeras

DAMN!

I usually like to mind my own business but I had to jump in.
Xaa: Selling an old DirecTV receiver for $200 or $300 or $500 is not a crime. That's all I have to say.

Posted by: Xaa

Neither is selling a gun, but if I know I'm selling it to you so you can commit a crime, it's not exactly above board either. And if I'm a cop and doing it, it's even worse.

I never said it was illegal. Questionable yes, illegal no. And I will add, for a cop to post about it on a public board is a little less than smart as well.

Xaa

Posted by: yo-yo-yo-YO

quote:
Originally posted by jsoukeras
DAMN!

I usually like to mind my own business but I had to jump in.
Xaa: Selling an old DirecTV receiver for $200 or $300 or $500 is not a crime. That's all I have to say.

Perhaps although I think there's something on the books that says you're not supposed to do something if you know it aids a criminal act, and I think law enforcement officals are expected to meet an even higher standard of ethics than the rest of us. It is kind of an eyebrow-raiser, kind of like a DEA agent suggesting he can explain where to buy the best pot hahah.

I think it strikes some people as contemptible to have someone in government laughing and winking about something illegal, especially people who have been arrested or penalized for doing something that really wasn't doing any harm, or been witness to a double-standard where a person in authority got off the hook. I always had disdain for Bill Clinton laughing off his "smoked but didn't inhale" past with lots of jokes through the years, meanwhile he signed lots of laws extending jail terms for drug arrests, insuring for example that otherwise harmless marijuana growers are sent for long stretches in federal prisons on first offenses. haha very funny.

Posted by: drmcm

quote:
Originally posted by GregF
Well the good Dr. came by and picked up the dish. I just thought everyone would like to know that he is indeed using a real photograph of himself in compliance with forum rules, and he didn't rob or murder us so it's okay to invite him over to your place. :p

Thanks for the vote of confidence! :) Nice to meet you, and thanks for the dish deal. I think this will be the easiest for what I want to do.

-Mike

Posted by: jsoukeras

Now you are going to make me get philosophical.
You never know why someone is willing to pay $300 for an old DirecTV receiver. Maybe they aren't the best shoppers. Unless somenoe says, "Hi. I'd like to pay you a lot more than your old hardware is worth and I'm going to commit a crime with it once you sell it to me." we can't be sure what their intentions are.

Posted by: bareyb

Nah, This Cop knew that he was selling it for illegal purposes. You can tell by the (wink - wink) quotes around "looking" for used receivers. His only barometer is whether or not he can be prosecuted for it. The old "it's not wrong unless I can get caught" defense. Yeah, probably won't get caught. Still, I find it somewhat hypocritical that someone who routinely jails others for breaking the law would condone and even promote breaking the law to others. Would the same logic apply if somebody were to offer him say, a thousand bucks to simply "look the other way" while they sold the hacked Access Cards that are used to steal DirecTV?

Posted by: DJRobX

So what do you recommend he do? Throw the old receiver away? It seems to me that someone paying $300 for an old DirecTV receiver plus various expensive gadgets required, all for the convenience of getting "free" TV for a "x" months before the next ECM is practically punishing themselves upfront by paying so much for outdated equipment.

Yes, I guess you could take the perspective that he's knowingly arming the bad guys. Personally, I think that what someone chooses to do with the equipment they purchase is really not his responsibility. Seems to me he has every right to sell his legally-obtained equipment for what the market will bear. If DirecTV hasn't bothered to enhance their security (shut down the H stream, or replace receivers that are potential security risks) then that's DirecTV's problem.

I also kinda wish you'd leave the fact that he's a cop out of this. I got the hypocracy reference. But, it still seems somewhat petty to use his occupation (one where he puts his life on the line for others) against him because you don't quite see eye to eye on this subject.

Yes, this is a gray area.. Gray going towards the darkside even. It's still a gray area in Canada. However, I sincerely doubt that anyone posting on this thread is sin-free. "He who has not sinned, cast the first stone...". In other words, maybe we should lighten up a bit?

-- Rob

Posted by: tthomasjr

quote:
Originally posted by Xaa
Neither is selling a gun, but if I know I'm selling it to you so you can commit a crime, it's not exactly above board either. And if I'm a cop and doing it, it's even worse.

I never said it was illegal. Questionable yes, illegal no. And I will add, for a cop to post about it on a public board is a little less than smart as well.

Xaa

Point taken, as i said previously. By the way, who said I am currently a cop?:)

Posted by: bareyb

quote:
Originally posted by DJRobX

I got the hypocracy reference...

It was precisely the hypocracy of the whole situation that promted the replies in the first place. And justifying ripping off DirecTV just because it's easy is an old argument and it doesn't hold water any better than me ripping off your house because you have lousy locks or because you have insurance is. It's still wrong and no amount of rationalization changes that.

Posted by: Xaa

quote:
Originally posted by tthomasjr

Point taken, as i said previously. By the way, who said I am currently a cop?:)

Fair enough tthomasjr sorry to badger you. Are you currently a cop? Your avatar looks a little young for retirement.

quote:
Yes, I guess you could take the perspective that he's knowingly arming the bad guys. Personally, I think that what someone chooses to do with the equipment they purchase is really not his responsibility. Seems to me he has every right to sell his legally-obtained equipment for what the market will bear.

DJRobx,

The fact that it is a cop is the entire issue. Police officers take an oath to "Serve and Protect". Would you feel the same way if the equipment was a gun and he had a very strong suspicion (as evidenced by his previous posts) that it was going to be used for illegal activities? If your wife was shot during the course of a robbery and you found out the gun was sold to the criminal by a cop who had knowledge the gun was going to be used for illegal activity would you still feel the same?

In the end of course tthomasjr or anyone else for that matter have the right to sell their things for what they can get, but as a public officer I just felt he was on a very fine line.

Xaa

Posted by: tthomasjr

Yes I am and as you can see my occupation is held at a much higher standard than the average, but our paycheck is not. This is why there is not people lined up to take my job. It reminds me of the guy who never goes to church but talks krap about the loyal church goer because he observed him at a bar having a drink. Anyway, point taken again, no death was involved and the avatar was removed so I could be judged on the same standards as anyone else that posts on this board. Thanks for making me aware that I was revealing myself too much. Peace and my God bless.

Posted by: Cobalt Jacket

quote:
Originally posted by DJRobX

Yes, this is a gray area.. Gray going towards the darkside even. It's still a gray area in Canada. However, I sincerely doubt that anyone posting on this thread is sin-free. "He who has not sinned, cast the first stone...". In other words, maybe we should lighten up a bit?

So why HAVEN'T they approved service in Canada? That's millions of potential customers that they don't even have to launch new satellites for. Just add the CBC and some of the Canadian locals and be done with it (after getting legal approval from the Canadian communications authority.)

Posted by: Xaa

Sorry to force you to remove your Avatar. It does raise you to a different standard in the publics eye as you know from this and I'm sure countless other examples.

Good luck to you as you will constantly be faced with "Fine Line" decisions that he rest of us never need to think twice about.

Being in NC, please know that I do appreciate all you and your colleagues do.

Xaa

Posted by: tthomasjr

Thanks alot, I knew you couldnt be all bad from nc, lol. I used to live in charlotte and worked in Monroe, nc. Charlottes a little too high crime for me.
Thanks

Posted by: Xaa

I'm not all bad, but as many here will testify, I am mostly bad. :D

Xaa