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Looks like Farscape has been cancelled
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Posted by: UnionBuster

During the chat tonight, David Kemper announced that SciFi has used an "out" clause to keep from doing the fifth season they agreed to.

Below is an except from the chat.

quote:

DK: Each and every year, at the end of the season
DK: we have a chat with you,
DK: our slightly bent cohorts in this
DK: wonderful adventure,
DK: and we wanted this year to be no different.
DK: However, despite our best efforts, this year is a bitt different from all
the rest.
DK: In the past 24 hours, I have been
DK: innundated with emails and calls
DK: regarding rumors that are circulating
DK: regarding our joint passion.
DK: Where do we stand?
DK: We are two days away from shooting the last scenes
DK: of season 4.
DK: As you know, Sci Fi has picked us up
DK: for 4th and 5th seasons.
DK: However, as with everything done at a
DK: corporate level,
DK: there was an out clause built into Sci Fi's
DK: pickup schedule.
DK: As of yesterday, we were informed --
DK: after massive efforts by everyone at Henson
DK: and working on the show --
DK: most importantly Brian Henson
DK: and the 3 gentlemen
DK: here
DK: that Sci Fi was not going to exercise it's
DK: option to pick up the 5th season of Farscape.
DK: The rumors that everyone has been calling me
DK: about are sadly
DK: very sadly true.
DK: Tuesday will be the last time Ben dons the uniform
DK: of Commander John Crichton.
DK: We are all hugely sad.
DK: I am shaking as I write this.
DK: Yesterday, we all cried on the set.
DK: Yet, as we are, at the end of the line
DK: so to speak
DK: being just the people who make the show
DK: and not the corporate entities that fund and air it
DK: we are as helpless as anyone.
DK: And we are sad
DK: And we are shattered.
DK: And we are sorry.
DK: And we wanted to come online
DK: and talk to YOU,
DK: our core fans who have stood
DK: beside us for such a long and great journey.

The SciFi Channel
1230 Avenue of the Americas, F115
New York, NY 10020-1513

Sci-Fi Channel Comment line: 1-212-413-5000

Posted by: Pan Chun

Here's a link to the transcript: http://www.gregor-stoye.de/scififor...eadid=2979&sid= (Scroll down past the German materials...an English version is there and impossible to miss.)

Posted by: Fleegle

I'd LOVE to hear SciFi's reason for cancelling this show. When they didn't pick up Legend of teh Rangers, they told JMS that they're getting away from "spaceship shows". I would never imagine that hey would dump one of the shows that put them on the map!

They dump Farscape, but they keep that John Edwards crap. What a crock!

Anyway, here's the link to the article on AintItCoolNews.com about the cancellation. They have a link to the online petition to keep the show, as well as the phone number and snail-mail address for SciFi Channel.

Posted by: Sinuralan

I can't see why they'd cancel one of their currently #1 shows.

I'm gonna assume it's still alive until I see a scifi press release..

Posted by: Fleegle

I couldn't tell you. In know they haven't run reruns in a long time... Why don't you ask them on Monday. From AintItCoolNews.com:

quote:
Sci-Fi Programing: 212-413-5821 or comments at 212-413-5577

Posted by: Sinuralan

It makez zero sense. It's got to be a hoax.

#1 or #2 show.
Relatively cheap production.
Line about destroying the sets is fishy -- they'd sell the series (or try to), not destroy it.
No press release from farscape.
Whole thing based off a 'chat log'.

Posted by: Pan Chun

People I know via the net were actually IN the officially sanctioned chat at the time.

You're welcome to disbelieve all you like, but this is all over the net now.

Posted by: UnionBuster

quote:
Originally posted by Sinuralan
It makez zero sense. It's got to be a hoax.

#1 or #2 show.
Relatively cheap production.
Line about destroying the sets is fishy -- they'd sell the series (or try to), not destroy it.
No press release from farscape.
Whole thing based off a 'chat log'.

I hope you're right and this is a hoax, but as mentioned, all of this came from an official, known ahead of time, chat.

Posted by: stormsweeper

Grr. ****ing Sci Fi.

Posted by: Sinuralan

Well I've seen things tougher than IRC chats hacked/spoofed before, but that doesn't bode well. :/

Still waiting for the press release before I freak.

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

quote:
Originally posted by Sinuralan
Relatively cheap production.

Actually, relatively expensive production...I suspect this is far and away the most expensive show Sci-Fi produces. Remember when they cancelled Invisible Man, despite its high ratings, because despite the ratings they still weren't making money. And believe me, it's all about money.

quote:
Originally posted by Sinuralan
Line about destroying the sets is fishy -- they'd sell the series (or try to), not destroy it.

They have to destroy the sets for tax purposes; I can't remember the exact reason for it, but that's what happens. If it's true, this would indicate that they have no intention of renewing it, no matter what.

Posted by: AndyK

This is very sad news. IMHO, Farscape is the only decent Sci-Fi currently on TV and its loss will be great. OTH, I'm not surprised that SciFi/USA would screw it up. They make a habit of bad scheduling, it almost seems at times that they want to fail. Surround good shows with total garbage (Black Widow, Jules Verne, etc), break up seasons so the casual viewer never knows when a new episode is on, show episodes out of order so that whole seasons (Lexx) don't make sense and then wonder why the ratings don't produce enough ad dollars :confused:. How long till they destroy Stargate, the only other thing I watch on that channel? Maybe they should just go to a 24hr John Edwards format! To put my opinion of SciFi/USA into 2 words, "They SUCK"!!!

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

quote:
Originally posted by AndyK
Surround good shows with total garbage (Black Widow, Jules Verne, etc), break up seasons so the casual viewer never knows when a new episode is on, show episodes out of order so that whole seasons (Lexx) don't make sense and then wonder why the ratings don't produce enough ad dollars :confused:.

Not to defend SciFi, but it's pretty unlikely Farscape would ever be profitable from its broadcast revenue. You have a show that's being made on what must be a network budget, shown on a cable network with a fraction of the ratings. And I don't argue with their scheduling in terms of not going against the network sweeps (although I do argue with breaking up the production seasons with their broadcast seasons).

But the show should still be a gold mine. They have good merchandising (not the least of which the dvd sets, including the international sets which are much further along), and they could have syndicated the series the way Showtime did with Stargate, a year behind, to catch the many people who simply don't have access to SciFi. And, had they just held on another year, they could have sold it for strip syndication.

On the other hand, John Edwards is practically free to make, and probably has higher ratings than anything else on SciFi.

Posted by: harvscar

Maybe John Edwards can do a conference call with Jim Henson and the Sci-Fi execs, surely he has some pull.

Posted by: Trent Bates

I'd like to throw my two cents in here for discussion's sake.

I am a pretty big fan of Stargate, Odyssey 5, All the various Star Trek series, Good old Battlestar Galactica, All the Star Wars stuff, Space:1999, Outer Limits, etc.

But I never could get into Farscape. I'm sure that there is a percentage of the Sci-Fi viewers that feel the same. I have watched various episodes throughout the years but it's just not the style of show that I can get into. I don't know what I don't like about it, and I did start watching it from the beginning, but it just didn't hold my interest.

I'm sorry that they are cancelling it for the people that do enjoy the show! I'm starting to hate Sci-Fi for their dumb scheduling practices.

Posted by: rhuntington3

Boo! Hiss! Bad Sci-Fi Channel! Bad! :(

Posted by: unoriginal

Are they planning on ending the series or are they just going to stop making more? Will there be a final episode that wraps things up?

[to the mods]
Would it be OK to create another thread in the happy hour that just has links to the petition, for people that don't look in this forum? Mabes said the other day that he went strait to the happy hour and didn't even know this place existed until recently.

Posted by: ronsch

quote:
Are they planning on ending the series or are they just going to stop making more? Will there be a final episode that wraps things up?

Since Sci-Fi had already committed to a fifth season, the scripts for the current season were written with the assumption they had another full season to wrap up all the plot lines.

Posted by: stormsweeper

I think a big part of this is Vivendi wants shows owned entirely by them, not just financed. Witness the new Quantum Leap and Tremors series coming out on Sci Fi, both of which are Vivendi properties.

Posted by: Pan Chun

And yet they stick with Stargate SG-1 which is owned by MGM (and one of my favorite shows, btw).

Bonnie Hammer is pathetic--she must be excised, sez I! :mad:

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

But Stargate is cheap, and has gotten cheaper.

As has SciFi...

Posted by: feldon23

If I were producing a show, I would put a requirement in the contract that the show's producers be notified 3 weeks prior to the last episode's filming before a show can be cancelled.

It is ridiculous for shows like Farscape and Quantum Leap to have non-endings.

Posted by: Fleegle

Quantun Leap has a non-ending. They at least hed time to put in that end title card. Every Farscape episode is in the can. They can't go in and add ANYTHING to take out the season-ending cliffhanger, which I'm sure they put in, or tidy up ANY plotlines.

I think ANY series that has a run of 12 or more episodes should be given a 3 episode advanced notice before cancellation. THEN you can tie up loose plotlines and give teh fans some kind of satisfaction.

Damn, Farscape is far and away my favorite show on TV right now. I can't believe there's only going to be 12 more episodes and I won't get ANY resolution or closure.

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

Filiming doesn't stop until Tuesday...one hopes they'll come up with SOMETHING...

Posted by: Pan Chun

I would HOPE they might shop the show around to some of the other outlets...whether it's SHOWTIME BEYOND!, UPN, or whatever else (anything but TNT).

At the same time, I'd also hope they might preserve the sets in case of a possible feature film finale option! :)

Posted by: jchan

Actually keep in mind that this is most likely the last season of Stargate SG-1 too.

So there goes "Sci-Fi Friday".

Posted by: murgatroyd

Check out slashdot for more discussion -- the guys over there were citing the high cost of the show as part of the reason for the shutdown (or so my husband was telling me).

Jan

Posted by: HTH

quote:
Originally posted by stormsweeper
I think a big part of this is Vivendi wants shows owned entirely by them, not just financed. Witness the new Quantum Leap and Tremors series coming out on Sci Fi, both of which are Vivendi properties.

Sci-Fi is making a series based on the Tremors movies? Sounds terrible.

Posted by: chris1

quote:
Originally posted by HTH

Sci-Fi is making a series based on the Tremors movies? Sounds terrible.

Blame it on Bonnie Hammer.

Posted by: HTH

What other movies are they planning to turn into series? Critters? Trancers?

Posted by: stormsweeper

quote:
Originally posted by HTH
What other movies are they planning to turn into series? Critters? Trancers?

Only if Vivendi Universal owns the rights.

Here's the press release for Tremors, btw

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-...07/09/12.30.sfc

Posted by: DLiquid

This just sucks. :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

:mad:

Posted by: DLiquid

quote:
Originally posted by chris1
Sorry to post another Save Farscape link, but this one is very comprehensive. Worth checking out if you sincerely want to save the show.

http://www.farscapeworld.com/helpfarscape.shtml

What do you mean "sorry"? Please post any links you find related to saving this excellent show.

Posted by: jones07

Do you guys think this is still the 60's when Fan's can send Tons of letters to save a show ? Cool make your unhappiness known but it will not matter. This is not the 60's where only one company owned the show TOS. Farscare is owned in part by 3 company's in three countries . It is reported that the set will be dismantle within hours of the last take of the last eps. This is what companies do now to fight any last hour campaign to save a show. They say "sorry it's to late to being back the show the set is gone and it will cost to much to rebuild. Sorry, have a nice life an please watch our new show"
I will also send a few snail mail letters But I fear the powers that be has already made up their minds. It's all about the Benjamin's and Farscape
was not bringing in enough of them

This was one on the few shows that I really liked.D@mn :(

Posted by: unoriginal

quote:
Originally posted by jones07
Do you guys think this is still the 60's when Fan's can send Tons of letters to save a show ? Cool make your unhappiness known but it will not matter. This is not the 60's where only one company owned the show TOS.

You do know about Roswell, don't you?

Posted by: jchan

quote:
Originally posted by jones07
Do you guys think this is still the 60's when Fan's can send Tons of letters to save a show ?

While this may be true, it doens't hurt to try.

Posted by: jones07

quote:
Originally posted by unoriginal

You do know about Roswell, don't you?

No Never watched the show. Tell me about Roswell. thanks

Posted by: HTH

quote:
Originally posted by unoriginal
You do know about Roswell, don't you?

They took it to a network I can't receive and then killed it. Your point?

Cancelling Farscape... and I just bought the computer game too!

Posted by: unoriginal

quote:
Originally posted by HTH

They took it to a network I can't receive and then killed it. Your point?

Cancelling Farscape... and I just bought the computer game too!

Didn't the fans get it to go on for one more season though?

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

But Roswell was a case where the producers were very keen to continue. By the fact that the sets are being destroyed immediately, that does not seem to be the case with Farscape...which makes me wonder if there isn't more to the story than simply SciFi's publically stated desire to move away from sci-fi. (Which I still don't understand, but maybe USA thinks America really really needs The Psychic Network.)

Posted by: jones07

I been here with another show I really liked
"Space Above an Beyond" Fox Killed that show that was getting good ratings but not great. Us
Fans did the the letter thing. thinking back to the 60's and TOS. But Fox beat us to the punch. They Destroyed the whole set an fired everyone that had anything to do with the show.A full week before they released the info that the show will not be back. I think they set the Mode for the way networks will do things now

Posted by: DLiquid

The sucky thing is that most Farscape fans don't even know about this yet. The sets might be destroyed before the word even gets out enough to make a difference. Please post about this on any message boards you know of (mods, Happy Hour should have a thread on this) and tell your friends about it that watch Farscape but aren't on the web regularly.

Letters and petitions may not help but that's not going to stop me from trying. The show is just too good to get this treatment.

Posted by: TivoFan

AAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!

This bites.

It seems that every time I find something that is smart or useful or funny or valuable to me in some way it gets squashed because it doesn't make enough money. And the only things that make money are complete crap. Something in our society needs to be fixed. The only problem is that I don't know what is worse, that we put a lower value on things that are good than we do on things that make money, or that as a culture we only spend money on crap.

Posted by: cheerdude

Just an update....

I am not sure if this is listed on any of the other Farscape sites, but AICN has posted contact info for several companies that are just as critical to contact as USA Networks... even more so, when you follow the "money".

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=13209

My letters will go out soon (remember, the sets are to be taken down some time this week) and will basically state while nothing last forever, I would like to see Farscape have a true Series Finale ending... not one in which a Season Finale cliffhanger is the last thing that we remember.

Posted by: unoriginal

quote:
Originally posted by Medieval Guy
But Roswell was a case where the producers were very keen to continue. By the fact that the sets are being destroyed immediately, that does not seem to be the case with Farscape...which makes me wonder if there isn't more to the story than simply SciFi's publically stated desire to move away from sci-fi. (Which I still don't understand, but maybe USA thinks America really really needs The Psychic Network.)

From the looks of it they are turning Scifi into TNN 2.

Posted by: dcheesi

If they cancelled purely on a money basis, then they are idiots. Farscape was the anchor of their Friday Prime lineup. Even if the show itself doesn't make money, it draws in viewers to watch their other (usually cheaper&poorer) programming.

Posted by: jones07

Farscape To End

The SCI FI Channel confirmed that it will not pick up its original series Farscape for a fifth season. "There are no bigger fans of Farscape than we here at SCI FI Channel," the network said in a statement. "It was one of SCI FI's first original series and quickly became a critical and fan favorite. Unfortunately, despite our best efforts to reach a broader audience, Farscape has been unable to grow beyond its core fan base. That, coupled with the extreme and growing cost of production, has led to the difficult decision to end the series at the conclusion of season four."

The remaining new episodes of Farscape's fourth season will return in January 2003. ADV Films will release "Into the Lion's Den (Part 1)" on DVD and VHS as part of the upcoming Farscape: Season 3 home video release, scheduled for 2003. Previous seasons of Farscape episodes are currently available on DVD and VHS from ADV Films; the newest release, Farscape: Season 2 Volume 2.2, was released last month.

Farscape was created by Rockne S. O'Bannon and produced by The Jim Henson Company, in association with Hallmark Entertainment. The series featured Ben Browder, Claudia Black, Anthony Simcoe, Gigi Edgley, Wayne Pygram and Raelee Hill. David Kemper, Juliet Blake, Robert Halmi Jr., Brian Henson and Richard Manning executive produced the show. O'Bannon served as executive consultant

Posted by: DLiquid

Okay, I think I have done my part.

- Left a message on the Sci Fi Channel viewer comment line.
- Sent snail mail letters to Michael Jackson (USA), Bonnie Hammer (Sci Fi), Barry Diller (Vivendi Universal), Jerry Offsay (Showtime), Matthew Blank (Showtime), Dean Valentine (UPN), and Robert DeBitetto (TNT).
- Faxed my letters as well when I had the fax number.
- Sent multiple e-mails, mostly to the above networks.
- Signed four online petitions.

I might send some letters and/or emails to some newspapers and magazines as well. I kind of surprised myself by doing all of this, but I really feel that Farscape is the best science fiction show on TV right now, and one of the best science fiction series of all time. I can't believe they're canceling it.

Farscape fans, please do all that you can to help save the show. Quality should matter.

http://www.karlsweb.com/Index-images/Rygel-full.jpg

Here are some links, some posted earlier in the thread.

Save Farscape:
http://www.farscapeworld.com/helpfarscape.shtml
http://farscape.wdsection.com/
http://homepage.mac.com/chryse/Guid.../Cancelled.html
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=13209

Online Petitions:
http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/SAVE_FARSCAPE
http://www.petitiononline.com/scaper1/petition.html
http://www.savemyshow.com/shows/farscape.htm
http://www.petitiononline.com/xg103/

Posted by: rexdart

quote:
Originally posted by unoriginal

From the looks of it they are turning Scifi into TNN 2.

I think that is exactly it, I suppose as long as they keep running old (classic?) sci fi series during the day so I get to see them again, I can deal. The prime time/weekend movies they run are generally a waste of time usually so no loss there (great to see the Stand once in awhile and the full length Dune movie, but that's about it).

Makes me wonder if Tech TV picking up Tbirds means anything (couldn't figure out what that wasn't doing on SciFi). Of course Cox in NW Arkansas doesn't carry Tech TV so it doesn't matter to me anyway. By the way, does writing to those yahoos ever actually help get a station on a cable package?

Posted by: OasisRed

I've signed the petitions before and now. But it has become an aggrevating trend with Sci-FI.

Were it not for SG-1, I'm VERY tempted to remove Sci-FI from the channels I receive on my TiVo. (I guess I will end up doing it in a few months.)

I'm fed up with getting hooked on a show just to have it cancelled by these yahoos! I'm refusing to be taunted in the future.

Insanity = Repeatedly doing the exact same thing expecting the outcome to change.

Posted by: DLiquid

Cinescape has a poll up on their main page about the decision to cancel Farscape. Go let them know what you think.

http://www.cinescape.com/

Posted by: DLiquid

Another petition, this one gets a bit extreme:

http://www.petitiononline.com/eulogy/petition.html

Posted by: adamblast

I'm very saddened by the news--and bitter that it was handled in such a way to screw up the storyline and provide no satisfactory ending.

The show's producers have specifically asked that we express our enthusiam to 3 networks which might have a strategic reason to pick up the show: UPN, Showtime and TNT.

Bonnie Hammer has stated repeatedly in private that she has no interest in doing any more "space shows" on Sci Fi channel. If that's the case, she should either be removed, or the channel should be renamed.

The article below is a bit angry, of course, but much of what it says is true. This channel has insulted its core audience long enough. Just call it USA-2 and be done with it.

Sci Fi channel: Crash and Burn

Posted by: jhausmann

quote:
Originally posted by Trent Bates
I'd like to throw my two cents in here for discussion's sake.

I am a pretty big fan of Stargate, Odyssey 5, All the various Star Trek series, Good old Battlestar Galactica, All the Star Wars stuff, Space:1999, Outer Limits, etc.

But I never could get into Farscape. I'm sure that there is a percentage of the Sci-Fi viewers that feel the same. I have watched various episodes throughout the years but it's just not the style of show that I can get into. I don't know what I don't like about it, and I did start watching it from the beginning, but it just didn't hold my interest.

I'm sorry that they are cancelling it for the people that do enjoy the show! I'm starting to hate Sci-Fi for their dumb scheduling practices.

Oddly enough I like everything you do except for Odyssey 5. And I enjoy Farscape.

Posted by: Trent Bates

quote:
Originally posted by jhausmann
Oddly enough I like everything you do except for Odyssey 5. And I enjoy Farscape.

:)

Actually, I miss many of the shows that Sci-Fi used to have. They used to provide a lot of shows that you couldn't see other places.

Posted by: stormsweeper

Sci Fi should be more like Canada's SPACE channel.

http://www.spacecast.com/

Plus it wouldn't hurt to have shows shown uncensored, but that's unlikely to happen here.

Posted by: Pan Chun

quote:
Originally posted by chris1
If Sci-Fi follows through with their plan to cancel Farscape and destroy the set on Wednesday, then we need to start a petition to remove Bonnie Hammer from her position as Sci-Fi programming director. Perhaps we should boycot that channel altogether. Farscape was the only reason I started watching that channel three and a half years ago.

Several such petitions already exist...however if you can give me evidence where even ONE online petition has ever had ANY positive impact, I might reconsider never wasting my time signing the damn things. Likewise, a boycott? Come on...unless you're a Neilsen household, the end result will be: You don't get to see some show or shows you MAY actually like. The impact on Sci-Fi? Nil.

If you want to consider some such radical action, then consider writing well-thought-out, REASONED hard-copy letters and sending them to the ADVERTISERS...particularly of Farscape, but of the Sci-Fi channel in general. Tell THEM such unpopular action on the part of the channel has created a certain ill will in you and your reaction to THEIR ads on the channel has become negative in nature. APOLOGIZE to them, then say that despite your best efforts to come to terms with Sci-Fi's actions, you will be unable to do business with said advertiser in the future. Make it sound like you TOTALLY REGRET having to do it, or else you'll come off like a self-righteous SF Geek instead of a "concerned viewer and customer".

Advertiser pressure tends to garner MUCH MORE response than network-based letters or petitions.

Good luck. I love Farscape, but there are forces at work here we're not aware of, I'm sure...so I'll just add it to the very long list of late, lamented shows that was killed before its prime. :down: :(

Posted by: adamblast

quote:
Originally posted by Pan Chun
...however if you can give me evidence where even ONE online petition has ever had ANY positive impact, I might reconsider never wasting my time signing the damn things.

I agree that that they're not likely to change much, But it takes only seconds to sign, and they *do* actually work once in a blue moon.

Numerous shows have been saved--for at least a year or two--including Roswell, and Star Trek TOS--by fan reaction to cancellation.

An large online petition changed WB's mind about not offering the Willie Wonka DVD in widescreen--in less than a week.

Web pressure also changed Disney's mind about Princess Mononoke--causing a month or two delay--because they weren't planning on including the original Japanese dialog tracks...

Direct phone calls work much, much better. But online petitions have had an impact in the past.

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

...and in the Add Insult To Injury Department, on the SciFi website, they still have that banner ad in the middle of the page that reads "See all-new episodes of Stargate SG-1 and Farscape every Friday."

Posted by: rloper

What does it say about the average American viewer when dreck like "American Idol", "Millionaire", and "Survivor" top the charts. Then because these shows are so cheap *Everybody* starts making them hoping to boost their profits at the expense of better (but more expensive to produce) fictional shows.

I watch TV to escape reality, not watch someone elses.

Posted by: Simon Cooke

Please show your support, and try to get Farscape back!

http://farscape.wdsection.com

Posted by: Hoffer

Who cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!! :)

Posted by: unoriginal

It looks like the farkers feel the same way I do.
http://www.lansdalewarehouse.com/temp/farkscape.jpg

Posted by: Pan Chun

Okay, series star Ben Browder is/was in live chat tonight...here's a VERY SHORT excerpt from his online time:

<Ben Browder> So...
<Ben Browder> Yesterday...
*To barbarella* you might want to give people the URL I sent to you ... this one here:
http://www.starburstcards.com/KarlswebNewscape/ it details what Sci-Fi did to you today.
<Ben Browder> We shot the last frame of season four
<Ben Browder> Lotta folks came out to set to say goodbye
<Ben Browder> Great sadness
<Ben Browder> But tremendous pride in how far we have travelled
<Ben Browder> You guys have made quite an impression
<Ben Browder> Not only online
<Barbarella> well we DO try we love you guys
<Ben Browder> But with everyone who makes the show
<Barbarella> every scaper here is here because of you
<DK> ok, its working I think
<DK> Yes, Sci-Fi had no idea it would be like this
<Ben Browder> Hell... we didn't know it would be like this

This chat is/was happening at irc.scifit.com room: farscape...but there are over 700 participants, so it will NOT be an easy chat to join!

Posted by: UnionBuster

Looks like all the noise may have sparked something. They may be negotiating something.

Check out this thread...

http://www.trekbbs.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/012806.html

Posted by: DLiquid

You can read the transcript of the David Kemper chat from tonight here:

http://farscape.wdsection.com/dkchattrans2.html

BTW, I believe it was later discovered that the DK in Pan Chan's transcript above was an imposter. Not that the imposter DK really said much, but that was not the real Kemper. The real Kemper came into the chat later, and you can read that transcript following the link I posted.

Posted by: Tivowner

I just heard at another forum that I go to that Sci Fi Channel has not renewed Farscape for another season... oh well .. time to delete that season pass I guess. I think the show died when Virginia Hey left the series...
In fact Virginia Hey said on her website that her beloved Pilot was already disassembled and put in a box.

I will truly miss Farscape.

Posted by: Hoffer

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-v...&threadid=74927

Posted by: stormsweeper

quote:
Originally posted by Tivowner

I will truly miss Farscape.

Then you might want to wait to delete your SP until after the rest of S4 has aired.

Posted by: jchan

Well, I doubt that the petitions will spark life into another season, but I might be surprised. However, what it MAY do is pave the way for a special 2 hour "series finale" or something to at least close it up and do away with the cliffhanger.

So it may not work in full, but at least give some satisfaction.

Just remember, Neon Genesis Evangelion...so many people hated the last two episodes, that the End of Evangelion movie was created. (But be careful what you wish for because that movie had a lot of "flip the finger" at the audience metaphors).

Posted by: Pan Chun

Looks like there MAY WELL BE a movie in the works...according to this notice at the Henson website,

quote:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

STATEMENT FROM THE JIM HENSON COMPANY REGARDING THE RECENT SCI FI CHANNEL DECISION TO CANCEL FARSCAPE

September 9, 2002 - Farscape is a flagship show for The Jim Henson Company. We are proud of its achievements over the past four years, which have included international critical recognition, three Saturn Awards, and a recent Emmy nomination. As always, our fans are the true inspiration for our company and their show of support has been integral to our success. Although SCI FI Channel has chosen not to pick up a fifth season, The Jim Henson Company is in active development on a new Farscape film, an anime project and is currently discussing syndication of this highly acclaimed series. We are eager to move forward with the Farscape creative team in developing new projects that will resonate with our overwhelmingly loyal fan base.

Now, "active development" sometimes can be a catch-all phrase for "development hell"...indicating that there's NO WAY it will ever happen...but that was said about the Spider-Man movie for over a decade and it DID finally happen...so here's HOPING! <crosses fingers>

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

Of course, one difference with Spider-Man is that they didn't have to hold a cast together. It sounds like Browder is pretty committed, but I suspect the rest of the cast will be moving on to jobs that actually pay pretty quickly, and the more time that passes (I'm talking days/weeks, not months/years), the harder it's going to be to get people back.

Posted by: Fleegle

Whoa! SciFi's news site, SciFi Wire, has an article on the fan struggle to keep farscape on the air! Link

They mention the campoaign of sending in cracker boxes and the picket in front of the SciFi office scheduled for tomorrow.

Posted by: Fleegle

Just another update about this. SciFi IS negotiating with the production team. They apparantly are trying to get them to agree to a 2 hour movie to let them resolve the Season 4 cliffhanger and close loose ends. The producers are still trying for a Season 5. I would assume that if Season 5 happens, the cast may get trimmed a little, and there would be fewer special effects to save costs.

The sets were being dismantled, not destroyed, and the crews have been ordered to stop dismantling. It looks like we're going to get, at the very least, a 2-hour movie to resolve some things.

Posted by: DLiquid

I believe it has been confirmed that the two-hour movie thing was a false rumor started by someone in the chat room claiming to be David Kemper.

Today is the day of the Farscape rally outside the SciFi Channel offices in NYC!!!
http://www.soulthra.com//tzun/savefarscapecentral/

Please show your support for the rally by going here and filling out the form:
http://www.launchsite.com.au/farscape

This will send a bunch of e-mails in support of the rally on your behalf.

And did you guys know, last night on CNN Headline News there were two Save Farscape stories? In one of them the anchor even said, "Scapers Unite!" Watch the video of the CNN stories here:
http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~arrghman/cnn-scape.rm
http://www.alligan.co.uk/CNNFS2.wmv

I like the second one the best.

Posted by: DLiquid

Another CNN Headline News story, this one from today:

http://www.farscape-one.de/media/CNN%20FS3.wmv

Posted by: jchan

You know, another thing that would be beneficial to both sides...do a half season. SciFi splits their seasons anyway, so instead of committing to the full 22 eps, just do 11.

I am really thinking that this may work. We will either get:

1) 2 hour Series Finale
2) 11 eps.
3) 22 eps.

Posted by: DLiquid

And here's CNN Headline news story number four:

http://www.farscape-one.de/media/CNN%20FS4%20Stream.rm

By far my favorite parts of all these segments are the banter that goes on between the anchors following the stories. Very cool! :D

Also, today Farscape fans pitched in and put an ad in Variety. Check it out here:

http://www.farscape-one.de/images/variety%20ad.jpg

I encourage all Farscape fans to head over to http://farscape.wdsection.com and join the campaign to save the show. I have no idea whether or not all this will work, but it's sure fun trying to save what I consider to be the best science fiction series currently on television.

Posted by: DLiquid

TV Guide is currently researching a story about the effort to save Farscape. Any fans of the show should contact TV Guide and ask for a Farscape TV Guide cover to go along with the article. :up:

TV Guide Contact Info Here:
http://www.wdsection.com/community/...=&threadid=2827

Posted by: DLiquid

http://www.str8dog.com/images/savescape.gif

Posted by: unoriginal

http://www.farscape.com/news/index.html

This sounds good.

Posted by: stormsweeper

Ben Browder is supposed to be on CNN Headline News tonight @ 8.15pm EDT

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

In the Browder CNNHN interview, he said it's good that the two sides are talking again (thanks to the internet campaign), but it doesn't look like there's going to be a fifth season.

Posted by: DLiquid

FYI, there is a scheduled chat with David Kemper, Richard Manning, and possibly Ben Browder tonight at 5 PM Pacific Time in the Sci Fi Channel's #Farscape chat room. For better or for worse, this should tell us what the current state of things is.

Posted by: wallace

Yet another article on the subject
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/09/17/...cape/index.html