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Survivor: Thailand Discussion (Spoilers After Live Show Airs OK)
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Posted by: Demandred
Well, it starts tonight so I thought I'd get this thread ready. I'd prefer to keep this thread free of spoilers that are ahead of the live show. Like if you know who's getting voted out tonight, keep it to yourself, please. :)
But I think spoilers after the live show airs are OK, so if you haven't watched the latest episode left, don't read this thread!
Everyone clear? Good. :)
That said, I wonder how they're going to divide the tribes tonight. The promos made us think it'll be all men on one tribe and all women on the other. But Mark Burnett said in an interview (I read it on CNN) that that is not the case.
Posted by: NatasNJ
How do the spoilers work with the West Coast people?
I say this thread is 100% open to ALL spoilers at ANYTIME!
No one KNOWS who is going to be voted off. Unless they were there.
And most people lie about it. So just go for it.
I say a girl gets voted off tonight.. An ugly one...
Posted by: bonehead
quote:
Originally posted by NatasNJ
I say a girl gets voted off tonight.. An ugly one...
Nope, that's not where the evidence points. (Well, maybe Shii Ann, I couldn't rule her out completely.)
My money's a guy. A religious one.
Posted by: TivoDaddy
Being on the West Coast, I know to stay away from threads that will spoil it for me. So I say go for it.
Natas, it's going to be either one of the older men or women, or the ones that are acting as "leaders". There is one guy who has a Christian flag as a luxury item. I vote for him to get the boot.
Posted by: sallypnut
quote:
Originally posted by NatasNJ
How do the spoilers work with the West Coast people?
as Demandred said,
quote:
so if you haven't watched the latest episode left, don't read this thread!
Makes sense to me.
I say whoever starts the thread sets the rules. :)
I love Survivor!
Just had to say it. :)
Posted by: bonehead
quote:
Originally posted by Demandred
That said, I wonder how they're going to divide the tribes tonight. The promos made us think it'll be all men on one tribe and all women on the other. But Mark Burnett said in an interview (I read it on CNN) that that is not the case.
I think they're overhyping the men vs. women aspect. And, yes, MB came right out and said it's not men vs. women. Both he and JP, though, have said that the show starts out very differently this time, and that the choices the contestants make right off the bat will impact the whole game. Hmm... Choices.
On the CBS website, the castaways aren't divided into tribes as they have been in the past. I'm guessing the tribes don't even get determined until they're on the island.
The most likely event, IMHO, is that they sit down in random spots, pull a buff from under their seat, and that determines the tribes. The "ladies to the left, men on the right" is to ensure that the tribes are balanced, 4 men and 4 women on each one.
Also a possibility is that they start off immediately with some sort of challenge. The two winners become "team captains". They then proceed to pick teams just like we used to do on the playground in grade school. This is the scenario I'm hoping for, it would add a whole new element to the game. Getting picked last, I'm sure, would have a huge impact on the way that person played the game. Conversely, getting picked first could make someone overconfident and have an effect on their strategy, too.
Posted by: TiVoJedi
quote:
Originally posted by bonehead
Also a possibility is that they start off immediately with some sort of challenge. The two winners become "team captains". They then proceed to pick teams just like we used to do on the playground in grade school. This is the scenario I'm hoping for, it would add a whole new element to the game. Getting picked last, I'm sure, would have a huge impact on the way that person played the game. Conversely, getting picked first could make someone overconfident and have an effect on their strategy, too.
I'm hoping for this too. I was always the guy picked last in school kick ball, softball, basketball etc. Then when it came down to field day, I took first in almost every challenge I was put in. Then no one would remember field day when it came to the next gym class. sigh..
Anyway.. looking forward to tonight :)
Posted by: justapixel
I love Survivor!
<have I said that before? :)>
Thread starter makes the rules, so no pre-live show spoilers! There are some spoiler sites out there that have good track records for getting it right, and I don't want my experience ruined. If you want to discuss pre-airing spoilers, start another thread for that.
And, as a West Coaster, I would never open a thread like this until after the show had aired, and I'd seen it. I think the rules as Demandred set them up is fair.
Happy Surviving! I think I'll make Thai food tonight. :)
Posted by: TivoDaddy
quote:
Originally posted by bonehead
Also a possibility is that they start off immediately with some sort of challenge. The two winners become "team captains". They then proceed to pick teams just like we used to do on the playground in grade school. This is the scenario I'm hoping for, it would add a whole new element to the game. Getting picked last, I'm sure, would have a huge impact on the way that person played the game. Conversely, getting picked first could make someone overconfident and have an effect on their strategy, too.
I wasn't aware that MB and JP had mentioned that it won't be M vs. W. Good insight bonehead. That may well be it. But being team captain also makes you a target right away. I'm sure the last ones picked would play hard early on just to prove that they shouldn't have picked them last.
Posted by: Haps
I heard today that 90%(Don't quote me it was on the radio in my office and I barely caught it) of the challenges are new.
I hope this is the case because some of the challenges were getting tiresome.
Although I do really like the Auction Luxury thing. I don't know why but I just enjoy that part of the show.
Posted by: justapixel
I'm really tired of the eating disgusting things challenge. I think it's pretty clear that everybody is willing to do that at this point. I hope they find something new. :)
Posted by: bonehead
quote:
Originally posted by TivoDaddy
I wasn't aware that MB and JP had mentioned that it won't be M vs. W. Good insight bonehead.
From this interview
quote:
Asked if those CBS commercials are accurate, Burnett says, “Uh, no. I’m giving you something huge. You asked me, and I told you the truth, which is, in fact, the tribes are not split along gender lines.”
Posted by: modnar
quote:
Originally posted by justapixel
I'm really tired of the eating disgusting things challenge. I think it's pretty clear that everybody is willing to do that at this point. I hope they find something new. :)
I agree. There are too many reality shows doing this now, IMO.
Posted by: DancnDude
I heard the radio personalities this morning saying that the next Survivor was going to be in a cold climate. They said that Burnett changed his mind and wants to do one now. Most likely gossip, but that would be so different!
Posted by: Haps
quote:
Originally posted by DancnDude
I heard the radio personalities this morning saying that the next Survivor was going to be in a cold climate. They said that Burnett changed his mind and wants to do one now. Most likely gossip, but that would be so different!
Well he doesn't necessarily have to do cold climate. A survivor in some of the forests in British Columbia would be a different setting. Done in the summer he could still work in the T&A factor for ratings.
Posted by: Todd
Okay, so far there are a couple of cute chicks and is Robb a clone of Kelso on That 70's Show? :D
Posted by: TiVoLance
Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
I for one was glad preacher man was voted off. He was bringing negative energy into that tribe. I sure hope that obnoxious bartender gets voted off next!
Posted by: network23
NOOOOOoooooooo!
We TiVo'd Survivor tonight and my wife and I let our daugther watch it before we did and she deleted it!
I wish TiVo had an undelete (or some other way of getting the show back!)
Posted by: bonehead
That sucks.
They are airing it again on Saturday, and I'm sure it'll be on usenet by morning.
Posted by: debtoine
Never fear, there's an encore presentation Saturday night. Check your guide for the time...I can't remember what they said.
deb
Edit: Darn, bonehead, beat me to it.
Posted by: debtoine
quote:
Originally posted by justapixel
I love Survivor!
<have I said that before? :)>
And, as a West Coaster, I would never open a thread like this until after the show had aired, and I'd seen it. I think the rules as Demandred set them up is fair.
Happy Surviving! I think I'll make Thai food tonight. :)
We love Thai food and have tried to make it ourselves once. It didn't come out anything like at our favorite Thai restaurant.
What did you make and can we have the recipe?
d
Posted by: jradosh
quote:
Originally posted by debtoine
What did you make and can we have the recipe?
It helps to have a good Asian grocery nearby. You can't make Thai food with ingredients found in the supermarket. There are a lot of web sites for mail ordering Thai ingredients as well. :)
FWIW, I think Ghandia should have been given the boot. Better to have a bossy preacher that's smart and physically fit than a nice lady who can't solve puzzles and is a bit overweight. But that's just MHO. :)
I hope Robb goes next. He pisses me off. :rolleyes:
Woo Hoo... SKINNY-DIPPING chicks :D :p
J
Posted by: David Platt
I was hoping and praying that Robb's team lost tonight just so they could vote him off. If anyone starts a thread about 'most obnoxious/annoying reality show player', he already has my vote hands down.
Posted by: harvscar
I want to see Robb get beat by the Shii Devil, "Don't mess with the horns!" :D
The skinny-dipping hick firefighter just disturbed me and I can't believe Ghandia is still around, John had it head-on with the evaluation of her skills and her benefit to the group.
Posted by: network23
Where did you hear this? I just checked TiVo and nothing shows up until next Thursday. I even checked by channel on NBC from late Friday to Sunday in case it was titled differently. Still nothing.
Posted by: Demandred
quote:
Originally posted by network23
Where did you hear this? I just checked TiVo and nothing shows up until next Thursday. I even checked by channel on NBC from late Friday to Sunday in case it was titled differently. Still nothing.
Survivor is in CBS...see, the things you forget when you have TiVo. :)
Posted by: harvscar
It's on CBS, but I don't see any repeat airings either. The next one on my guide is 9/26.
Posted by: jradosh
quote:
Originally posted by network23
Where did you hear this? I just checked TiVo and nothing shows up until next Thursday. I even checked by channel on NBC from late Friday to Sunday in case it was titled differently. Still nothing.
Try CBS ;)
Posted by: bonehead
quote:
Originally posted by network23
Where did you hear this? I just checked TiVo and nothing shows up until next Thursday. I even checked by channel on NBC from late Friday to Sunday in case it was titled differently. Still nothing.
They announced it right at the end of tonight's episode. Encore showing, this Saturday, 9E/8C.
Posted by: Turtleboy
quote:
Originally posted by harvscar
It's on CBS, but I don't see any repeat airings either. The next one on my guide is 9/26.
Don't know if the guide data is accurate, but CBS has been advertising that they will be showing it.
Yeah, I know a lot of people her don't watch commercials, but I like Survivor enough that I watch it *gulp* live. :)
Posted by: Rob Helmerichs
As for the preacher getting voted off and not Ghandia, remember that what we see is highly edited, and he might have done a lot to bother people in little ways throughout the three days, beginning with the way he picked the team.
I do not have high hopes for the Shii Devil...she thinks way too highly of herself, but does not perform (did you see how she practically collapsed during the rowing?). But yes, Robb has got to go, just for the sake of his teammates' sanity.
Posted by: justapixel
quote:
Originally posted by debtoine
We love Thai food and have tried to make it ourselves once. It didn't come out anything like at our favorite Thai restaurant.
What did you make and can we have the recipe?
d
Actually, I changed my mind. I was outside most of the afternoon, and since it is 100 degrees I decided to serve cold sandwiches.
However, I have lots of wonderful Thai recipes and I'll be happy to share. Look for one here next week. :)
And, let me add my voice to the happy to see preacher man go. When he voted for Ghambia, "Enjoy your vacation, Sweetie" I just cringed. Very unpreacherlike attitude. You had to see it to hear the smarminess in his voice, read that sentence with nastiness, not niceness.
Posted by: dthmj
For all their bragging, the purple team actually looked very weak in the rowing... they looked to be sort of ummmmm lazy. Reminds me of another bunch of young survivor players....
Posted by: okleydokley
quote:
Originally posted by bonehead
Also a possibility is that they start off immediately with some sort of challenge. The two winners become "team captains". They then proceed to pick teams just like we used to do on the playground in grade school. This is the scenario I'm hoping for, it would add a whole new element to the game. Getting picked last, I'm sure, would have a huge impact on the way that person played the game. Conversely, getting picked first could make someone overconfident and have an effect on their strategy, too.
Bonehead--
I can't believe that no one has congratulated you on your near perfect guess yet. That was a great guess and a great way to start the new show.. Can you send me your pick for next week for my fantasy survivor pool?
--OK
Posted by: bonehead
quote:
Originally posted by okleydokley
Can you send me your pick for next week for my fantasy survivor pool?
LOL! I don't even know if I'll have a decent pick for next week. All depends on what sort of clues MB decides to dangle in front of us in this week's promos.
Posted by: chloejackson
I was surprised John was voted off as he has physical strength as well as practical skills. However, as stated above, the show is editted down so obviously he was acting in a manner to bother the other tribe members on a consistent basis. I thought his "joke" about the water source was out of line also.
I'd never have guessed that man was a preacher if the show didn't tell us.:) LOL I'd have him pegged for the used car salesman. He's not exactly a Reverand Eric Camden from 7th Heaven type preacher.:)
Do any of these "Survivors" read up on basic survival or camping skills before they take off on this adventure? Camping/surviving 101 is stay dry! Keep your clothes and especially your shoes dry dry dry! I won't even get into the reasons. Yet on this show and the others, first they all do is jump into the ocean/creeks in their clothes and shoes. Then they start worrying about building a shelter to keep them dry.:)
When our gang gathers around to watch, we always get a kick of the total lack of "respect" for the water. No one should have be out swimming, fully clohted no less:), especially long distances like tonight, until they are familar with the water (depth, dangers, currents, riptides, bacteria, distance) . I know that the producers won't let them drown, but to undertake a unorganzied group swim in unfamilar waters when they don't even know the others' swimming abilities is dangerous.
Posted by: loopey
They get some survival training before they go. I always assumed they went in the water in their shoes so they didn't step on something and cut their foot.
I am surprised at Jan's (I believe that was her name) choices for her tribe. I would have been going for the ones that looked physically fit, though they did outrow the "young" tribe.
Posted by: sacherjj
It was pretty funny tonight. I am in South Bend, IN for the week on business. I called a local restaurant delivery service to get dinner sent to the room. When the door was knocked, I had the TV on to Survivor. I had to watch it live, as the TiVo doesn't have a local number in South Bend. (yes, I brought it with me and tried to do a setup for here...)
Anyway, the delivery guy asked if I had Survivor on. He said that he was friends with John. He told me that he was taking a leadership role in the tribe. He went to High School with him and beat him in the Class President election. Then told me some other stuff about him. After he left I was kind of surprised and finished watching the show. I thought it was funny that John was the first voted off.
Then I cruised by the Survivor site and noticed that most of what this guy told me about John could have just been read off of his bio. Now I wondering if he was for real or just desperate enough for attention to try to impress a total stranger... Weird.
Posted by: GatorDeb
I'll just copy and paste my post to another TV forum :D
I watched some of Survivor 1 (including the final ep) and haven't watched since.
Since getting a TiVo I decided to go for it.
I'm going to LOVE this!!
I SO wanted it to be men against women. I agreed that the women would kick the guys' hineys - women are better at group-type things
When bartender-dude says "She's very comfortable with her sexuality" after one of the women bares it all... yeah what you're REALLY saying is "Ta-tas!!"
"Retards" Not a good way to bond... cranky much?
Anyone saw the unflattering butt shot of someone as they were climbing?
I think they sent the wrong person in for someone who needed brains. She seems more like the brawny type.
It's funny how Chung Joy was bragging that the other team was so old and the other team just CREAMED them speed-wise. Guess they needed the food after all.
I've never seen a more self-centered group of people as in Chung Joy.
So now the first to show leadership gets booted off?
"John, you're first." Kind of prophetic.
Posted by: bareyb
IMO the top three ways to get the boot early on Survivor are:
1. Set yourself up as a "leader" early on and start bossing people around.
2. Separate yourself from the rest of the tribe.
3. Show yourself to physically struggling or physically ill.
Preacher man disobeyed prime directive #1. A couple of the others are messing with #2 and #3 (Surfer boy and Tonya). FWIW, I didn't think they would kick Ghandia off for blowing the challenge. She showed the proper remorse and she had the benefit of being in the older group. However, if she blows it again she's gone. I think she will be working overtime the next week playing make up. She REALLY screwed up bad though... I would have loved nothing more than to see the "young" groups get their butts kicked by a bunch of "old" people. They GOT outrowed by the "old" group. It does indeed conjur memories of Africa... I agree with everyone else that the Bartender needs to go. As soon as I saw that silly ski cap I thought he wouldn't be around too long. Then he spoke and I felt even more sure he wouldn't be around too long. Then he demanded to see that girls hands and threw a hissy fit because he had blisters. Add into the mix grabbing two of the Women and jerking them up in the air off their feet? I'd say he's toast for sure... He's pissing off the females early. I think that could easily be #4 on the list of things NOT to do if you want to survive. :D
Posted by: GatorDeb
quote:
Originally posted by Medieval Guy
As for the preacher getting voted off and not Ghandia, remember that what we see is highly edited, and he might have done a lot to bother people in little ways throughout the three days, beginning with the way he picked the team.
I do not have high hopes for the Shii Devil...she thinks way too highly of herself, but does not perform (did you see how she practically collapsed during the rowing?). But yes, Robb has got to go, just for the sake of his teammates' sanity.
John didn't pick the team.
Posted by: bonehead
quote:
Originally posted by bareyb
Preacher man disobeyed prime directive #1.
Well, it's not so much that becoming a leader gets you booted (i.e. Dick Hatch, Mike Skupin), it's more when two people vie for leadership, the one that the tribe doesn't accept as a leader gets the boot.
I think the thing that damaged him beyond repair was the joke about the water hole. These people were already tired and pissed, only had a tiny amount of water left, and had one girl who was already getting sick from dehydration. As much as I can't stand her, I have to agree with Ghandia, that definitely wasn't the time to be joking about the water supply.
Posted by: bareyb
quote:
Originally posted by bonehead
Well, it's not so much that becoming a leader gets you booted (i.e. Dick Hatch, Mike Skupin), it's more when two people vie for leadership, the one that the tribe doesn't accept as a leader gets the boot.
BECOMING a leader is different than setting yourself up as the "self proclaimed" leader. I think the tribe picks the leader by their deeds and those people tend to last pretty long (although it often paints a target on their back later such as with Hunter last year).
What I've noticed, it that there always seems to be some bossy dork who right off the bat tries to take over and tell everyone what to do. Historically they are usually gone so fast they don't even make the jury. :D
Posted by: bonehead
quote:
Originally posted by bareyb
BECOMING a leader is different than setting yourself up as the "self proclaimed" leader.
Well, that's a good point, but Skupin even came right out during tribal council and proclaimed himself leader. Caused a little annoyance, but that passed quickly. Maybe he just got lucky in that he was the one the tribe was coming to recognize as the leader anyway.
And, no, he didn't make it to the jury, but I firmly believe he would have if it hadn't been for the accident. Rodger (who is far more familiar with what the group dynamics were like than either you or I) said in an interview that he believes the final 3 would have been himself, Liz, and Mike had it not been for that accident. I'd say that's a pretty good indicator that appointing himself leader didn't paint too big a target on his back.
Posted by: dschwab
If I remember correctly, Richard Hatch didn't become the vocal leader for the first few episodes. He did try to vocally lead at the very beginning, but when his ideas were shot down and disregarded when they were building the camp, he very wisely backed-off. After watching the next few Survivors and other reality series and seeing how an overbearing leader is a primary target, this may have been Hatch's smartest move of the whole game, especially knowing that it goes against his personality. I think his initial "leadership" was more of a behind-the-scenes move for the first few days by forming his alliance, not so much ordering the rest of the tribe around.
Posted by: chloejackson
Few more random comments.:)
I also was suprised that the Chewing Gum Tribe leader Jan didn't start picking all the strong people first. From the first four series, it's obvious physical strength is a distinct advantage, not just in the challenges but in the day to day work. True, mental ability makes a difference (Ghandia is proof) but the strong people can also be smart. The smaller, weaker people can never get the strength in 32 days.
It's my understanding, that the "cast" doesn't know a thing about each other when they first get on the "set", so they have no real way of knowing who is smart or clever.
I was also suprised, that neither Jake nor Jan, remembered anybody's names after they had all just introduced themselves. If it was me (LOL ok well I never went to a Survivor tryout in LA, it looks way too uncomfortable:)), I would have been focusing on remembering the names. It's important to people that you know their names, esp. in a game that relies on social skills. It's a respect thing, shows memory skills too.
Posted by: TivoDaddy
Yeah, I picked John to get the boot!! Woo-hoo. Two crucial mistakes he made, separating himself from the main group when trying to look for water to "scout ahead" and that stoopid practical joke. That wasn't the time. I also thought Clay might get the boot (before the show) since he was older. I kind of like him, and was really surprised that one of them (forget who) picked him to be gone just because he might not need the money. You don't do that until later in the game. He might have some skills that will come in handy, and being the last one to get picked will make him work that much harder. I think he will go far, and might come out as the leader of the Chop Sueys.
I like Robb, if not only for his dorkiness, surfer attitude that made me crack up everytime he opened his mouth. First off, a skateboard as a luxury item??? His evaluation of why they will win, they have the "Hot Chicks!", yeah, I'll give him that, but come on!! Favorite quote from Robb, asking the Asian girl to see her hands, "Dude, let me see your hands!".
Congratulations bonehead on predicting the beginning, which rocked.
Posted by: jsmeeker
I would have vote off Ghandia. She cost her tribe immunity. however, the vote was not surprising. If there was no obvious screw up by a tribe member, then he would have gotten my vote. If it was the otehr tribe, then it would have been slacker, skateboard dude.
Posted by: bonehead
quote:
Originally posted by jsmeeker
I would have vote off Ghandia.
I'm not sure which way I'd have gone. Ghandia obviously has to go. She's both a physical and mental liability. But knowing my own personality, I'd have a pretty tough time with the idea of listening to a skinny little guy barking orders at me for 39 days. In the end, I think I'd have probably voted for John, just to maintain sanity. I'm by no means betting on Ghandia to win the million, though. ;)
Posted by: TreborPugly
Were John's "Last Words" shown at the end? My recording ended before getting to them if there were, but the commercials at the end of my recording were pretty lengthy so I thought maybe there weren't last words. Can anyone who padded the end of this fill me in?
Thanks,
Treb
Posted by: bonehead
Yep, they were shown. As usual, the next week's preview and last words segment began right smack at the top of the hour. Looks like you'll need a 5 minute pad again this season to get them.
In the meantime, both are available online over at the CBS website.
Posted by: Bryanmc
Robb is a tool.
I hope he goes soon. From what we've seen he's good looking enough to be very arrogant and young enough not to know to shut up about it.
That "let me see your hands" crap was waaayyy over the line.
I hope he goes soon. I love it when people who think they are "on the top" get booted. Like John last night.
Posted by: TiVoPony
quote:
Originally posted by justapixel
However, I have lots of wonderful Thai recipes and I'll be happy to share. Look for one here next week. :)
Yum. If you post one each Tuesday, then we can shop for ingredients on Wednesday.
Or you could just invite all of us west coasters' over to Sacramento for dinner on Thursday nights. ;)
Yum.
Pony
Posted by: jradosh
Go for it TiVoPony!!!
http://importfood.com/recipes.html
I recommend "Larb Gai" :D It's my absolute favorite Thai dish... best served very spicy. :eek:
J
Posted by: sallypnut
quote:
Originally posted by TiVoPony
Yum. If you post one each Tuesday, then we can shop for ingredients on Wednesday.
Or you could just invite all of us west coasters' over to Sacramento for dinner on Thursday nights. ;)
Yum.
Pony
Great idea! I have some friends I'm going to watch with every week and we're always looking for new stuff to cook.
Bring it on, Pixel. :)
Posted by: Southpaw
quote:
Originally posted by Bryanmc
From what we've seen he's good looking enough to be very arrogant
Good looking? Why do people keep saying this?
I've never seen ANYONE who looks, at a totally superficial level, morelike a drooling, bungling, low-IQ airheaded moron than Robb. I mean, if Vacuous had a poster child, it would be that foul-faced, ski-cap laden roach.
I find the man's face, voice and very existence on this earth vile and repulsive. He's quite possibly the ugliest excuse for a human to ever cross in front of my face.
Have I adequately conveyed what a joke I think this guy is as a "good looking" guy? :D
Posted by: Rob Helmerichs
Southpaw, it's really not healthy to repress your feelings like that. Let it out! You'll feel much better.
:D
Posted by: zyzzx
I want Rob to stay! Why does everyone always want to most interesting, controversial people booted from these reality shows? They are what keep things interesting. I like Rob stirring things up like he did on Thursday. "Show me your hands!" ... hilarious stuff.
Posted by: jradosh
quote:
Originally posted by zyzzx
Why does everyone always want to most interesting, controversial people booted from these reality shows?
There's 'good' controversial and 'bad' controversial. I think Robb is the bad kind that's not fun to watch but rather just annoying. The only thing I can think of that would make it interesting to keep him around is if everyone else starts to gang up on him and give him grief. Then I say keep him around as a punching bag until later and then let him go.
J :p
Posted by: Bryanmc
quote:
Originally posted by Southpaw
Good looking? Why do people keep saying this?
Hey, no sweat off my back. I really thought the ladies found him attractive. He said he'd done modeling, so at least he thinks he's good looking.
He's not really my type anyway ;) so I'll accept your conclusion Southpaw. :D
Posted by: jimest
Remember the "prime objective" vote the strong ones off first so you do not have to compete with them for immunity in the final days.
jimest
Posted by: TiVoLance
On the Survivor note I took the Emode test at :
http://www.emode.com/tests/survivorstrategy/index.jsp
Seems my Survivor Strategy is to be The Peacemaker!
Your Survivor Strategy is to be The Peacemaker. You want to play the game by your own rules — with integrity, honesty and a clear conscience. You just might be the one player on the island that cares less about the money and more about the experience.
Hmmm Well the money WOULD be nice. At least peacemakers seem to last until the end.
Posted by: Dusty
<---- Peacemaker also.
What happens if we end up with a tribe of peacemakers???
Posted by: TreborPugly
Wow, I'm the "Sage!":
quote:
Treb, your Survivor Strategy is to be The Sage!
Your Survivor Strategy is to be The Sage. And your plan? Slow and steady will win the race — or in this case the million-dollar prize. You're in it as much for the experience as you are for the prize, and this wisdom allows you to see the big picture. Read more about your Survivor Strategy…
My biggest complaint is that the question about "what would you buy online after you won the Million" didn't included a choice for Electronic gadgets! I'd buy the biggest upgraded Tivo I could find!
Treb.
Posted by: Philosofy
I would have voted Ghandia off, not because she lost the challenge, but because the lost seemed to totally incapacitate her. She whined too much about it afterwards. Also, it seemed pretty dumb to send her to solve a puzzle like that. Men are (statistically) much better at spacial relationships than women. If it were a word game challenge, then send in the chicks.
Posted by: Rob Helmerichs
I got an 800 on my verbal GRE, but stink at spacial relations. Does that mean I'm (statistically) a woman? :D
Posted by: Uther
Time to change your forum ID to Medieval Gal...
Posted by: Rob Helmerichs
Boy, and I had trouble getting dates already...
Posted by: uncdrew
I just put together a cookbook for a friend so have a pseudo-Thai recipe already typed up. While it wasn't asked of me, I'll post it because it's so amazingly yummy. It prepares easily and would work well with a group. I think I'll make it (again) for next Thursday's show. From cooking light:
♥ Thai Chicken Pizza ♥
¾ cup rice vinegar
¼ cup firmly packed brown sugar
¼ cup low-sodium soy sauce
3 Tbsp. Water
1 Tbsp. Minced peeled fresh ginger
2 Tbsp. Chunky peanut butter
½ to ¾ tsp. Crushed red pepper
4 cloves garlic, minced
Cooking Spray
½ pound skinless, boneless chicken breasts, cut into bite-sized pieces
½ cup (2 ounces) shredded reduced-fat Swiss cheese
¼ cup (1 ounce) shredded reduced-fat mozzarella cheese
1 (12 inch) basic pizza crust
¼ cup chopped green onions
1. Preheat oven to 500.
2. Combine first 8 ingredients in a bowl, stir well with a whisk
3. Heat a nonstick skillet coated with cooking spray over medium heat. Add chicken, sauté for 2 minutes. Remove chicken from pan.
4. Pour rice vinegar mixture into pan, and bring to a boil over medium-high heat. Cook mixture 6 minutes or until slightly thickened. Return chicken to pan, cook 1 minute or until chicken is done. (Mixture will be consistency of thick syrup)
5. Sprinkle cheeses over prepared crust and top with chicken mixture. Bake at 500 for 12 minutes on bottom rack in oven. Sprinkle with green onion. Let stand 5 minutes.
Posted by: Philosofy
quote:
Originally posted by Medieval Guy
Boy, and I had trouble getting dates already...
You must be a male lesbian: a lesbian trapped in the body of a man. :D
What drove the female/spacial relationship thing home for me was when I took ceramics engineering in college. (Note: this is NOT pottery!) A girl I have known since second grade was in the class with me, and she is, hands down, brilliant. Her signature is actually on the planet Mars! (She built the battery for the Mars lander.) Anyway, ceramics covers different crystal structures, which are 3d. This woman just couldn't do them to save her life. Calculus, differential equations, particle physics: no problem for her. Envisioning different ways balls could pack together just threw her.
My point is that she obviously should not have done that aspect of the challenge.
If I were on that show, one of the first things I would do is ask everyone what their strenghts and weaknesses are for the challenges. For example, I have great balance, but can't swim, and have lousy accuracy throwing things. I would also be the first to puke ont the food challenges.
Posted by: jradosh
quote:
What drove the female/spacial relationship thing home for me was when I took ceramics engineering in college.
What drove it home for me was the fact that a previous girlfriend couldn't drive me home. In fact, she couldn't drive anywhere unless she had a map and a course all plotted out. Using landmarks and a general notion of where you're going just didn't work for her. She had no sense of direction or distance/spacial relationships.
And generally this is true... men don't ask for directions because our sense of spacial relationships allows us to figure out a route. Women have more trouble with this and hence the generalization that women ask for directions before men do.
J :)
Posted by: TiVoJedi
I can generally find my way to a destination, but if it takes more than 15 minutes of annoying turning around when I am close to it, I give up and ask for directions. I tend not to like wasting time, so if in 15 or 20 minutes of trying to find my way, I don't, then I find someone that can save me additional time. Some women think men are stubborn about asking directions, but I have no problem just as long as I give locating the destination a try myself first. When it becomes apparant to me I am wasting my time, I don't want to waste anymore of it. Similiarly, one of the many reasons I like TiVo is that, like a gas station attendant, it prevents me from wasting time, but getting to the destination faster.
Posted by: sallypnut
quote:
Originally posted by jradosh
What drove it home for me was the fact that a previous girlfriend couldn't drive me home. In fact, she couldn't drive anywhere unless she had a map and a course all plotted out. Using landmarks and a general notion of where you're going just didn't work for her. She had no sense of direction or distance/spacial relationships.
Hey! I never knew you dated my sister. ;)
Sometime I don't know how she functions in the world.
Posted by: vman
Did they know what kind of puzzle it was? I thought Jeff said a traditional puzzle, but did he show them? The camera showed us, but maybe they didn't know what exactly it was.
Also, Jeff Probst was on a radio show here a few days ago and said the following about week three:
Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
In one of the challenges in week three, the two tribes have direct contact with each other, which leads to some heated pushing and shoving, with Jeff needing to step in to prevent a fight! I guess Robb probably survives next week!
Posted by: vman
quote:
Originally posted by bonehead
Nope, that's not where the evidence points. (Well, maybe Shii Ann, I couldn't rule her out completely.)
My money's a guy. A religious one.
bonehead -- what pre-show "evidence" were you refering to? Just curious.
Posted by: DLiquid
I was wondering the same thing. Bonehead, how did you know the pastor was going to be the first to go?
Posted by: Uther
quote:
Originally posted by DLiquid
I was wondering the same thing. Bonehead, how did you know the pastor was going to be the first to go?
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=76645
Posted by: bonehead
It's really, really simple. There was a lot of footage out there in the form of pre-show commercials, promos, specials, previews, etc... There were shots of pretty much everyone looking grungy, dirty, and showing signs of having been on the island for at least a little while. Except John. In EVERY shot of him he still looked neat and clean, barely a hair out of place.
Why? 'Cuz he wasn't around long enough to get grungy.
Posted by: TreborPugly
quote:
Originally posted by vman
Did they know what kind of puzzle it was? I thought Jeff said a traditional puzzle, but did he show them? The camera showed us, but maybe they didn't know what exactly it was.
It is one of those puzzles where you have several pieces that are rectangles or squares of various sizes and orientations, and some empty space so pieces can slide around. At the front of the box is an opening. You must slide the pieces around until you get the desired piece to the opening. The standard form of this puzzle that I've seen is actually pretty complicated, and even if you know the quickest solution it takes probably 50 moves, so I imagine they simplified it a bit.
Treb
Posted by: Fleegle
quote:
Originally posted by TreborPugly
It is one of those puzzles where you have several pieces that are rectangles or squares of various sizes and orientations, and some empty space so pieces can slide around. At the front of the box is an opening. You must slide the pieces around until you get the desired piece to the opening. The standard form of this puzzle that I've seen is actually pretty complicated, and even if you know the quickest solution it takes probably 50 moves, so I imagine they simplified it a bit.
Treb
I think the original question wasn't asking what teh puzzle was, or how hard itis, but if the players knew WHAT the puzzle was before they got to the platform.
Posted by: jradosh
quote:
Originally posted by vman
I thought Jeff said a traditional puzzle...
I believe he said it was a traditional Thai puzzle.
J :)
Posted by: loopey
They usually do a run through of the challenges I thought? At least going through the course so they know where to go and what to do, practicing boomerangs, and things like that.
Posted by: justapixel
As promised, here is a recipe. I will post one each week if everybody wants me to, and I'll do it before Wednesday evening from now on. :) I have several Thai cookbooks, and a friend who is from Thailand and who shops in the asian markets for me, so I can get some good ingredients.
This recipe, however, is more of a party type one, and I don't know if it's authentic. Fun for a night in front of the TV though. And, since it's still 100 degrees in Sacramento, cooking outside is essential.
GRILLED CHICKEN WINGS WITH TWO THAI SAUCES
3 pounds chicken wings (12 to 14)
1/4 cup vegetable oil
3 tablespoons fresh lemon juice
For peanut sauce
3 shallots
2 garlic cloves
1 cup salted roasted peanuts
2 tablespoons vegetable oil
1 teaspoon Thai red curry paste
1 cup light coconut milk plus additional for thinning
1 tablespoon fresh lime juice
1/2 teaspoon brown sugar
For gai yang sauce
2 small fresh hot red chiles (about 2 inches long) such as Thai or serrano
4 garlic cloves
3/4 cup sugar
1/2 cup water
2/3 cup white-wine vinegar
3/4 teaspoon salt
Cut off wing tips, reserving for another use, and halve wings at joint. In a bowl whisk together oil, lemon juice, and salt to taste. Add wings and stir to coat. Marinate wings, covered and chilled, at least 1 hour and up to 8.
Make peanut sauce:
Mince shallots and garlic. In a food processor finely grind peanuts until they begin to get oily. In a small heavy saucepan heat oil over moderate heat until hot but not smoking and cook shallots, garlic, and curry paste, stirring, until fragrant, about 1 minute. Stir in ground peanuts and coconut milk and simmer, uncovered, stirring frequently, until mixture is slightly thickened, about 3 minutes. Stir in lime juice, brown sugar, and salt to taste. (If sauce is too thick, stir in additional coconut milk.) Peanut sauce may be made 1 day ahead and chilled, covered. Bring sauce to room temperature before serving.
Make gai yang sauce:
Mince chiles. Mince garlic and in a small saucepan simmer with chiles and remaining ingredients, stirring occasionally, 10 minutes. Cool sauce to room temperature. Gai yang sauce may be made 1 day ahead and chilled, covered. Bring sauce to room temperature before serving.
Prepare grill.
Drain wings in a colander and pat dry. Grill wings on an oiled rack set 5 to 6 inches over glowing coals until cooked through and golden brown, 8 to 10 minutes on each side.
This goes good with a cool, cucumber salad.
Enjoy!
Posted by: TiVoLance
Check out this info on Jeb, http://tv.zap2it.com/news/tvnewsdaily.html?28196 . Yes DWIs are bad but why does the public need to know every detail about peoples past. Two jobs you can have that don't allow for skeletons in your closet to remain hidden are politics and reality TV contestant I guess. I remember Shannon from Big Brother 2 also had a story come out about her having killed someone in a car accident. Does Reality TV = Death of Privacy. I think so.
Posted by: DLiquid
quote:
Originally posted by TiVoLance
Yes DWIs are bad but why does the public need to know every detail about peoples past.
If you feel that way then why did you provide the link and give us the dirt? It just seemed kind of ironic that you are spreading the news while asking whether or not the public should have this info.
Posted by: TiVoLance
Oh I could care less if people know the details of that particular article. I was just making the point that these are considered news worthy.
Posted by: bareyb
quote:
Originally posted by TiVoLance
Oh I could care less if people know the details of that particular article. I was just making the point that these are considered news worthy.
I imagine if you asked "The Smoking Gun" or "Zap2it" why they published the articles and photos they would essentially say the same thing... :o
Posted by: jradosh
...regarding the Jeb article... I've got no problem exposing any drunk driver in papers and web sites. They deserve as much. And this clown has the arrogance to appeal the verdict even though they have him on tape failing to recite the alphabet! :rolleyes: Of course the average 'Joe' isn't going to get this much publicity, but Jeb knew what he was getting into when he signed up for Survivor, so I don't feel sorry for him.
BTW, next week's episode looks pretty interesting. :)
J
Posted by: GatorDeb
No wonder I was wondering what the Bushes had to do with this... It's Jed, not Jeb :)
Posted by: jradosh
Jeb the brunk briver! :p
...oops.
J
Posted by: Philosofy
Looks like next week's challenge is physical, kind of like an American Gladiators type deal. But did you see the ex-NFL player was put up against a girl?
BTW, if its a 'winner take all', my money is on the ex-NFL guy.
The sexual harassment thing looks interesting, also, since they are always under the camera's eye, we will get to see he-said vs she-said vs roll the tape.
Posted by: vman
quote:
Originally posted by Philosofy
The sexual harassment thing looks interesting, also, since they are always under the camera's eye, we will get to see he-said vs she-said vs roll the tape.
I agree it looks interesting, but I doubt it'll be clear-cut even with the cameras there. From the clips, it looked more like a "cuddling to keep warm" scene where the guy may have made a few moves that were objected to by Ghandia. I doubt there will be clear evidence either way. But it should definitely add some huge tension to that tribe.
Posted by: TiVo'Brien
quote:
Originally posted by chloejackson
Few more random comments.:)
I also was suprised that the Chewing Gum Tribe leader ....
:D Hey, that's what we call the Chuay Ghan tribe, too!
Sook Jai tribe is "Soup Jar."
Posted by: Philosofy
Also, did anyone notice Ghandia's hand on the other guy's (can't remember his name) thigh? This wasn't a night time snuggling for warmth thing here.
Posted by: spud
Yep, that's the first thing I thought of when they played the sexual harassment teaser.
Posted by: jradosh
Whew! What a bunch of nut cases in both tribes :rolleyes:
The Chewy Gum tribe at least was smart enough to follow rules in the reward challenge and to figure out the easy puzzle in the immunity challenge.
Now if they can just get a visit from the Red Beret psychologist for Ghandia. What was up with the stone throwing and punching the driftwood?!?! :eek:
I can't believe how lame SookJive was in both challenges. Absolute idiots. :p
J
Posted by: David Platt
quote:
Originally posted by jradosh
Now if they can just get a visit from the Red Beret psychologist for Ghandia. What was up with the stone throwing and punching the driftwood?!?! :eek:
That was really over the top, but it definitely yielded the night's funniest line. The stuff she was yelling as she threw each rock into the water: "Liar" (toss a rock) "Cheat" (toss a rock) "Butt crack hanging out every day!". I was rolling on the floor.
Almost as funny: porno boy's coining of a word worthy of Bush: 'genuinity.'
On another note, I think Robb should have been severely disciplined for his actions during the pirate game. His putting his hands around Clay's throat and trying to choke him were WAAAAAAY over the line. Probst even looked shocked.
Posted by: Turtleboy
Ok, that thing with Ghandia and Ted was just weird. They're both married. They shouldn't have been snuggling to begin with. That being said, it seems like that Ted was 100% in the right here, and that she is just nuts.
Maybe I think that because I'm male. I'm curious to think what the various women think of that situation.
Posted by: JLWINE
quote:
Originally posted by Turtleboy
Ok, that thing with Ghandia and Ted was just weird. They're both married. They shouldn't have been snuggling to begin with. That being said, it seems like that Ted was 100% in the right here, and that she is just nuts.
Maybe I think that because I'm male. I'm curious to think what the various women think of that situation.
By Ghandia's own admission she neglected to inform her tribe-mates that Ted immediately apologized, so obvious she is trying to manipulate the whole thing to her advantage.
Posted by: jhausmann
quote:
Originally posted by Dusty68
<---- Peacemaker also.
What happens if we end up with a tribe of peacemakers???
Hunter.
Posted by: jradosh
quote:
Originally posted by JLWINE
By Ghandia's own admission she neglected to inform her tribe-mates that Ted immediately apologized, so obvious she is trying to manipulate the whole thing to her advantage.
Although porno-boy played along too. Ted told him something like "I won't go into details, but it's all been cleared up", but porno-boy went back and told whats-her-name that Ted said "It never happened". Possibly he's scheming as well, trying to get rid of Ted who is a bigger physical threat than anyone else in his tribe.
Either that, or he's just plain stupid. :p
J
Posted by: dthmj
quote:
Originally posted by Turtleboy
Ok, that thing with Ghandia and Ted was just weird. They're both married. They shouldn't have been snuggling to begin with. That being said, it seems like that Ted was 100% in the right here, and that she is just nuts.
Maybe I think that because I'm male. I'm curious to think what the various women think of that situation.
Ghandia is a nutcase....
He apologized, he had a rational explanation, and to his face she accepted his apology, and never mentioned any kissing, hair rubbing, or biting (in the initial private convo time) - so I'm think the more she thought about it, the more she made things up.
Posted by: Philosofy
I'm shocked Rob didn't go: that guy's brain cell must be pretty lonely. I was also surprised Shi Ann got the votes she did.
I'm on Ted's side: Ghandia just "neglected" to mention he apologised? :rolleyes: This is the biggest bunch of whiners we've seen yet. Makes Survivor Africa look like a bunch of go-getters.
Posted by: loopey
The funniest line was from Clay. When he was talking about Ghandia's behaviour and said something like "if my two year old were carrying on like that, I'd get him, whoop his ass good, and put him in bed.".
I'm just wondering why Ghandia didn't elbow or hit Ted when he was doing that. It sounded like a reasonable explanation, I turn off my alarm all the time without knowing what I'm doing or remembering it at all. She's a drama queen and a nutcase.
Posted by: TiVoPony
Ghandia didn't go this week for one simple reason...I put all my points on her. ;)
Every season there's someone I'd like to see tossed, and they don't go until I put my points on someone else. Oh well, live and learn.
And Robb's choking of Clay...I agree, his punishment should have been a lot worse than being tossed from the competition. That, and his macro-blocked single digit salute, and his whining and name calling...why oh why didn't they get rid of him? Jeb may have been dumb, but at least he doesn't seem psychotic.
Did anyone else notice that in the closing credits they didn't show Robb holding up Shi-Anns' name? I wonder if he was giving her an on-camera 'salute' as well... :rolleyes:
Pony
Posted by: sallypnut
"I was a little bit disappointed when they showed us what the reward was...I mean, I was hoping they'd bring like a big turkey or somethin'. Somethin'." --Robb
Do you think I can get the mods to change my user name to sallypnutt?
Posted by: Dusty
Lots of whiners, but I know I couldn't stand Robb another day. I can't believe they didn't toss him. Listening to him go on about how the other guy whined after him grabbing him by the throat and tossing him, I'd have knocked him upside the head.
Of course, you lose the fishing net, among other lazy things, I'd be pissed with you, too, and want you gone.
Posted by: Dusty
oh, and LOVED the red beret reward. Thought that was one of the best ones. That should help them stay strong, while the other team whines about no food. :)
Posted by: TreborPugly
We have friends visiting for a long weekend starting last night, so my wife didn't let me watch Survivor last night! You know how hard it is to not read this thread, or check out CBS.com??? Must ... not... click!
Posted by: Philosofy
Oh, one other thing: that real estate agent: Am I the only one who thinks her real profession might be something different? Maybe, perhaps, oh, an exotic dancer?
Posted by: Philosofy
Something else I've notice: who taught those people Thai? They certainly got things mixed up.
When the Red Berets arrived, Ted said "Sawat Di Kaa." Only women say Kaa. Ted should have said "Sawat Di Krap." (Which is Thai for hello.) When the Berets left, Helen said "Kapun Krap", which, because she is a woman, should have been "Kapun Kaa."
Posted by: jradosh
quote:
Originally posted by Dusty68
Of course, you lose the fishing net, among other lazy things, I'd be pissed with you, too, and want you gone.
That was classic! And then the camera crew provided a shot of the fishing net floating just a hundred yards or so offshore!!!
If I knew that the net had floats and had drifted off, I'd at least take the boat out for a once-round the nearby water to see if it could be spotted. :rolleyes:
J
Posted by: Turtleboy
quote:
Originally posted by Philosofy
Something else I've notice: who taught those people Thai? They certainly got things mixed up.
When the Red Berets arrived, Ted said "Sawat Di Kaa." Only women say Kaa. Ted should have said "Sawat Di Krap." (Which is Thai for hello.) When the Berets left, Helen said "Kapun Krap", which, because she is a woman, should have been "Kapun Kaa."
Wow. I think you might be the only white person in America who noticed that. ;)
Posted by: Ebenezer
quote:
Originally posted by Dusty68
oh, and LOVED the red beret reward. Thought that was one of the best ones. That should help them stay strong, while the other team whines about no food. :)
I totally agree! We thought that reward was probably the most ingenious that MB has been able to come up with yet.
I'm sure those two guys worked non-stop while they were there. But, they looked like they were enjoying themselves.
Posted by: jradosh
quote:
Originally posted by Philosofy
Something else I've notice: who taught those people Thai? They certainly got things mixed up.
When the Red Berets arrived, Ted said "Sawat Di Kaa." Only women say Kaa. Ted should have said "Sawat Di Krap." (Which is Thai for hello.) When the Berets left, Helen said "Kapun Krap", which, because she is a woman, should have been "Kapun Kaa."
I wish I hadn't deleted the ep after watching it or I'd go back and double-check this. Because when I watched it I actually had thought to myself "wow, they learned enough Thai to say hello and thanks... and they got the gender-specifics correct as well". Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention :confused:
Oh well, at least they tried to speak in the native tongue. I'm sure the Red Beret guys had a good chuckle on their way back to base. :p
What was that thing they were building in the sand that looked like a pit with a bamboo edging? Was that for a fire? Was it a trap? :confused:
Was anyone else rooting for Ghandia to go after Ted with that machete, just to see what would happen :p I guess it was good she was disarmed by whats-her-name. :)
J
Edit: PS to Turtleboy... nope, I noticed too (3 months spent in Thailand in 83), but I didn't notice that they had the gender thing wrong.
Posted by: magaggie
quote:
Did anyone else notice that in the closing credits they didn't show Robb holding up Shi-Anns' name? I wonder if he was giving her an on-camera 'salute' as well...
I actually thought it looked like Rob-b couldn't spell her name. He looked really perplexed, like he was concentrating too hard. It looked like all he got out was S. H.
He's not the brightest fella out there.
Posted by: IJustLikeTivo
quote:
Originally posted by TiVoPony
Ghandia didn't go this week for one simple reason...I put all my points on her. ;)
Every season there's someone I'd like to see tossed, and they don't go until I put my points on someone else. Oh well, live and learn.
And Robb's choking of Clay...I agree, his punishment should have been a lot worse than being tossed from the competition. That, and his macro-blocked single digit salute, and his whining and name calling...why oh why didn't they get rid of him? Jeb may have been dumb, but at least he doesn't seem psychotic.
Did anyone else notice that in the closing credits they didn't show Robb holding up Shi-Anns' name? I wonder if he was giving her an on-camera 'salute' as well... :rolleyes:
Pony
The best thing about Rob last night was when he was talking about the reward challenge. He said the prize was lame, he was hoping they would bring out a turkey.
I guess they felt it would be it would be redundant. LOL.
IJLT
Posted by: IJustLikeTivo
quote:
Originally posted by magaggie
I actually thought it looked like Rob-b couldn't spell her name. He looked really perplexed, like he was concentrating too hard. It looked like all he got out was S. H.
He's not the brightest fella out there.
Yep, he is right up there with the twins from TAR 3. No rocket scientists there either.
IJLT
Posted by: loopey
I liked the red berette reward. I thought it was unique and quite cool. Robb was just saying he thought the reward was lame (which is wasn't) because he didn't win.
I have to repeat this in this thread. I meant to put 50 points on Ted and Ghandia and instead put them on JED and Ghandia, gaining 50 points. It was obviously a mistake because I picked Sook to get immunity. :) I am now tied with TivoPony for first place in group 3.
Posted by: jradosh
quote:
Originally posted by IJustLikeTivo
The best thing about Rob last night was when he was talking about the reward challenge. He said the prize was lame, he was hoping they would bring out a turkey.
A classic example of someone that doesn't understand the age-old adage "give a man a fish and he eats for a day. teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime". Maybe next week someone will teach him the adage "beat a man senseless with a fish" :p :Dquote:
Originally posted by IJustLikeTivo
Yep, he is right up there with the twins from TAR 3.
Thank God he's not twins!!! :eek:
J
Posted by: TiVo'Brien
quote:
Originally posted by IJustLikeTivo
Yep, he is right up there with the twins from TAR 3. No rocket scientists there either.
IJLT
I didn't think mimbos really existed until the twins from TAR 3 and Robb from Survivor. Live and learn.
Posted by: Haps
quote:
Originally posted by loopey
I'm just wondering why Ghandia didn't elbow or hit Ted when he was doing that. It sounded like a reasonable explanation, I turn off my alarm all the time without knowing what I'm doing or remembering it at all. She's a drama queen and a nutcase.
I began to get a little suspicious when she went into her tantrum. I was beginning to suspect that her tantrum was more based on guilt/self-loathing manefesting itself as anger.
It's not the first time we've seen that on Reality TV either. Nicole from Big Brother 2 went thru the same thing when she was informed(by banner) that her husband had saw her hottub shenanigans with Will.
Posted by: bonehead
quote:
Originally posted by jradosh
If I knew that the net had floats and had drifted off, I'd at least take the boat out for a once-round the nearby water to see if it could be spotted. :rolleyes:
And wouldn't you maybe wonder why the camermen in the helicopter kept focusing on that one area of the ocean?
Posted by: Philosofy
quote:
Originally posted by bonehead
And wouldn't you maybe wonder why the camermen in the helicopter kept focusing on that one area of the ocean?
Or, perhaps, go up on a hill to look out over the water. You're not going to see diddly while treading water. :rolleyes: These people are really stupid. What's with the one sleeping in the rain all the time?
And an interesting note to the people who don't speak Thai: it's not like spanish, where the gender of the person you are speaking to is indicated in your speach. Men always use krap, and women always use kaa. Its a beautiful language, especially when spoken by a woman.
Posted by: TivoDaddy
Loopey, I agree with you that Ghandia should have done something when Ted was "grinding, biting, and grabbing" her. She'll be gone next time they have to vote.
I was really surprised that Sook Jai picked Robb for that mental challenge. Great line after the reward challenge when he said, "We lost because of rules", yeah, welcome to civilization. I enjoyed it when Ted used his football background to knock Robb out. Yes, bryanmc, Robb is still a tool. :D
Posted by: Dusty
quote:
Originally posted by jradosh
If I knew that the net had floats and had drifted off, I'd at least take the boat out for a once-round the nearby water to see if it could be spotted.
::snip::
Was anyone else rooting for Ghandia to go after Ted with that machete, just to see what would happen :p I guess it was good she was disarmed by whats-her-name. :)
I would have gone out looking, too. I also said it would be hysterical if it floated up at the other beach. :D
I was really waiting for Ghandia to go running after him. She definitely is a little off balance, wouldn't have surprised me.
I did think it was stupid to have this big meeting while you have the red berets there... I wouldn't have wanted to waste a minute with them...and would have felt like an idiot talking about that crap when they were working their asses off to help the tribe!
Posted by: David Platt
quote:
Originally posted by loopey
The funniest line was from Clay. When he was talking about Ghandia's behaviour and said something like "if my two year old were carrying on like that, I'd get him, whoop his ass good, and put him in bed.".
Can't believe I forgot about that line! Clay is quickly becoming one of my favorites.
Posted by: fmowry
Good thing Sook Jai didn't win the red berets. Rob would have spent all day trying to smoke the plants they brought back for soup.
Frank
Posted by: justapixel
quote:
Originally posted by Turtleboy
Maybe I think that because I'm male. I'm curious to think what the various women think of that situation.
Can you guess what this woman thinks? :)
Ghandia was all over Ted, touching him, snuggling with him, and when he took the next logical step, she blew it way out of proportion. I don't buy his "I was asleep and thought you were my wife" excuse, but I also think she totally led him on for the purpose of trying to get rid of him. She's weak, and he's strong, and she thought this might be a way to get an alliance with the women and get Ted kicked.
And, she did it in a spectacularly bizzarre way.
He turned the tide on her by bringing it all out in the open. She'll be the next one gone on that team. And, it probably would have been Jan since she's the weakest, but this team has already proved by getting rid of John that they'll remove annoyances over weakness.
I just wonder if Ted's still married? Ghandia set him up, but he shouldn't have been snuggling with her either. If he was my husband, I might have thrown a few rocks myself. :)
Posted by: Tonybeans
I would have been much more interested in watching the berets for ten minutes than listening to all that whining by Ghandia. But you know with that kind of situation, Burnett will play it up.
"Genuinity" was my favorite line of the night... we watched that several times in a row, LOL!
Posted by: uncdrew
Rob is so entertaining, I hope he stays a long while. What great sound-bits he provided.
<paraphrased, unfortunately>
"I was so mad I wanted to spit in his face."
"I was hoping for a turkey."
"We have the best-looking team by far."
When teams were picked it was so obvious that Robb's team was in trouble. And when they ended up with the island with no shelter, we just knew the fireworks were coming.
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What if Ghandia put her hands on Ted so that he would follow her lead only to cry foul and have him booted off because she saw her time on the island ending? She figures the only one who could possibly see is the camera and she figures they like the controversy and won't spill the beans.
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Posted by: jasoncarr
quote:
Originally posted by Tonybeans
"Genuinity" was my favorite line of the night... we watched that several times in a row, LOL!
And if that was the used car dealer talking about genuinity (I think it was) then there's an extra level of irony. Him with his veneered teeth and frosted hair.
Posted by: jradosh
I asked earlier but didn't get a reply.
Does anyone know what that pit with the bamboo lining was that the Red Beret was making for Chewy Gum? A trap? A fire pit? :confused:
And while I'm at it, why were those crabs making little sand balls on the beach? What's up with that? :confused:
J
Posted by: justapixel
I don't know if anybody knows yet, JR. A trap is my best guess. Maybe they'll show us next week.
Those little crab things were cute. I initially thought they were laying eggs, but my five year old corrected me - he says they were just making sand balls to play with. :)
Posted by: Rob Helmerichs
I think you folks are giving Ghandia WAY too much credit...
Posted by: dumbunny
Did anyone else notice that Jed's lead foot was actually in the attack zone when he initiated contact? I think Jeff missed the call, there.
What if Ted has stood in the center area outside of the attack zone? He's big enough so that nobody from the other team could get by, and anyone who tried to push by him would be "initiating contact" on him, which disqualifies them and penalizes the team.
I was surprised that neither team bypassed the blockers by throwing the baskets around or over them.
Posted by: uncdrew
I wonder how long the "pirate game" took. Obviously it was edited, but I imagine Ted camped out in the attack zone for a long time and the game came to several stand-stills as the contestants determined the ways to exploit the given rules.
Perhaps that lead to Jeff being so amazingly and openly frustrated while officiating.
Posted by: jradosh
quote:
Originally posted by dumbunny
Did anyone else notice that Jed's lead foot was actually in the attack zone when he initiated contact? I think Jeff missed the call, there.
I thought the rule was you had to be entirely in the attack zone. :confused:
J
Posted by: JohnJr
One question I have is in regard to the Tower of Hanoi challenge. Is there a "trick" to it, or is it just a seemingly mindless number of move this here, that there, this there and that here?
I took out a quarter, nickel, dime and penny and made my own tower of Hanoi, and it seems to me like it would take a good 30 or more moves to actually complete the puzzle (with 4 pieces). Is this right, or is there a trick?
-John
Posted by: shady
quote:
Originally posted by bonehead
And wouldn't you maybe wonder why the camermen in the helicopter kept focusing on that one area of the ocean?
Call me suspicious, but I thought it was just a little convenient that they happened to have a helicopter circling just at that moment. They did come clean after Survivor 1 about re-enacting some scenes for "good television". I'm wondering if the fishing net we saw from the helicopter was even the same net.
Posted by: dthmj
They mentioned Jed's foot in the Early Show interview. Jed said it was a fair call. Whoever the woman is that asks the questions said she thought maybe it was because Jed lunged at him before his foot hit the zone.
Posted by: shady
quote:
Originally posted by JohnJr
One question I have is in regard to the Tower of Hanoi challenge. Is there a "trick" to it, or is it just a seemingly mindless number of move this here, that there, this there and that here?
I took out a quarter, nickel, dime and penny and made my own tower of Hanoi, and it seems to me like it would take a good 30 or more moves to actually complete the puzzle (with 4 pieces). Is this right, or is there a trick?
-John
No trick, but you do have to make sure you end up building the finished tower on the correct platform (not the intermediate platform)
Posted by: jradosh
15 moves for 4 pieces is the minimum.
J
Posted by: dslunceford
quote:
Originally posted by TiVoPony
Did anyone else notice that in the closing credits they didn't show Robb holding up Shi-Anns' name? I wonder if he was giving her an on-camera 'salute' as well... :rolleyes:
Pony
Missed it. Of course if I could negative pad the start of the wife's Will & Grace SP by a minute on my SA, I'd certainly pad the Survivor SP to catch the extra :30 sec or so CBS runs over and see what the votes were ;);););)
Posted by: Turtleboy
quote:
Originally posted by JohnJr
One question I have is in regard to the Tower of Hanoi challenge. Is there a "trick" to it, or is it just a seemingly mindless number of move this here, that there, this there and that here?
I took out a quarter, nickel, dime and penny and made my own tower of Hanoi, and it seems to me like it would take a good 30 or more moves to actually complete the puzzle (with 4 pieces). Is this right, or is there a trick?
-John
I believe if N is the number of pieces, then if you play the Tower perfectly, the correct number of moves is 2^nth -1 (that's two to the nth power -1). This Jradosh is correct, that with 4 pieces you can do it in 15 moves. Last night there were 6 pieces, which means it took 63 moves to get that sucker done.
Posted by: JohnJr
63 moves? And they let Jed run the mission? I thought he ran out of fingers (or energy?) at 10? <grin> Actually, I thought Shii Ann's comments about "well we could have stepped in but we didn't" were apropo <sp>
One last question re: Tower of Hanoi if I may. Do I have to linearly place pieces on point two and point three? Or can I do one to point 3 and one to point two in two moves?
Thanks!
-John
Posted by: dmaneyapanda
quote:
Originally posted by jradosh
And while I'm at it, why were those crabs making little sand balls on the beach? What's up with that? :confused:
Part of the beauty of nature. Many crabs wait for a lowering tide, then scramble onto the beach and sift through the sand looking for edible things. As they do so, they eject the sand, eventually building up those balls all around them. Then the tide rises, and whoosh it's all leveled and ready to do it all again next time.
I first saw this behavior on one of the discovery channel 4 part nature shows that was on a few months ago. here are some other links:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...crab+sand+balls
dinesh
Posted by: martinp13
Probly already been said and hashed to death, but I lost all respect for Ghandia when she started spreading the dirt on Ted, and repeated "everything truthfully, except where he apologized". Grrrrrr... that really got me. Why would she do that??? That's just mean and spiteful.
Posted by: JohnJr
quote:
Originally posted by dmaneyapanda
Part of the beauty of nature. Many crabs wait for a lowering tide, then scramble onto the beach and sift through the sand looking for edible things. As they do so, they eject the sand, eventually building up those balls all around them. Then the tide rises, and whoosh it's all leveled and ready to do it all again next time.
I first saw this behavior on one of the discovery channel 4 part nature shows that was on a few months ago. here are some other links:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...crab+sand+balls
dinesh
This has got to be why crab-meat is sooooo good. They work hard for every ounce of it!
Re: the pit we saw the red berets building, jradosh... my first thought, probably wrong, was latrine.
-John
Posted by: uncdrew
I work hard for every ounce of it too. You know how when the leg doesn't break right and you have to go fishing for the meat and you spend 3 minutes on one teeny bite...
Carnivorously yours,
uncdrew
Posted by: dumbunny
quote:
Originally posted by shady
Call me suspicious, but I thought it was just a little convenient that they happened to have a helicopter circling just at that moment. They did come clean after Survivor 1 about re-enacting some scenes for "good television". I'm wondering if the fishing net we saw from the helicopter was even the same net.
In the scene where Jed is walking off the beach and then a few seconds later the net surfaces a small distance offshore, it looks to me like the angle of the sun on the water changes about a second before the net appears, as if the net was not actually shot at the same time/location as Jed. If this scene was edited, it was done extremely skillfully -- in slow-motion, I can't see if/where the change occurs. I record at basic quality, so the waves are pretty macro-blocky.
Is the scene real or edited to make Jed look stupid?
Posted by: JohnJr
I only watched it once, dumbunny... but it looked like the same shot to me. Pan up from jed (camera on the shore) to floating net.
-John
Posted by: Haps
quote:
Originally posted by shady
Call me suspicious, but I thought it was just a little convenient that they happened to have a helicopter circling just at that moment. They did come clean after Survivor 1 about re-enacting some scenes for "good television". I'm wondering if the fishing net we saw from the helicopter was even the same net.
Well the first shot of the net rolling in the waves apeared as tho it was 50ft from shore. The heli shot was much further from shore(perhaps enough time to drift out while calling for a copter on the radio).
Posted by: justapixel
So, that was a fairly predictable ending, even for those of us not reading the spoiler sites. I put all my points on Ghandia. Man, she was obnoxious, I'm glad she's gone. Did you see her little speech at the end?
Will the team come together now? Helen has all the cards, it would seem, so anything goes for them next week.
Seems like Stephanie will be in danger next week on Sook Ji.
Posted by: TiVoPony
quote:
Originally posted by justapixel
So, that was a fairly predictable ending, even for those of us not reading the spoiler sites. I put all my points on Ghandia. Man, she was obnoxious, I'm glad she's gone. Did you see her little speech at the end?
Will the team come together now? Helen has all the cards, it would seem, so anything goes for them next week.
Seems like Stephanie will be in danger next week on Sook Ji.
Helen has all the cards? I'd say the three guys have all the cards. They'll pick off Jan next.
On the other side, who went down in the surf in the preview? Was that skate board dude?
Pony
Posted by: DancnDude
This show is usually more unpredictable. I forsee some sort of tribe swap/split/etc coming soon that could put the girls back in the game.
Posted by: Turtleboy
I was a bit surpirsed by her speech at the end.
At seems that she purposely was using the incident with Ted (and her past rape) to generate strife in the tribe to what she thought was her advantange -- which makes it even worse.
What a horrible person.
Posted by: fmowry
quote:
Originally posted by TiVoPony
Helen has all the cards? I'd say the three guys have all the cards. They'll pick off Jan next.
On the other side, who went down in the surf in the preview? Was that skate board dude?
Pony
Yeah assuming they don't shake up the tribes Jan's a goner. The guys won't break themselves up and Helen won their support.
You know I think it was the skateboard dude who went down in the preview but I was too tired to "analyze" last night.
We're due for an injury of some sort to add some suspense to the episodes.
I hope he's not too hurt because we need his abrasiveness to keep things interesting.
BTW, do you thing Ghandia was the only one shocked about being voted off. Maybe Jan. The guys knew she was gone and so did Helen. So did all of us.
Frank
Posted by: laria
quote:
Originally posted by TiVoPony
On the other side, who went down in the surf in the preview? Was that skate board dude?
God, I hope so...could that guy BE any stupider!?
I'm glad Ghandia was gone, she was annoying. I didn't believe her story at all. Now it's time to get rid of Robb the moronic skater on the other team, but something will have to change with Stephanie because she's being a cranky antisocial bit....person :)...and that's not making her any friends or votes.
Posted by: DancnDude
Anyone think it was funny how they downplayed the chickens in that those were the better prize in the challenge? Maybe they figured that chickens have been given out as reward almost every year and everyone is getting sick of it - so they din't show it real long.
Posted by: pmyers
My question is this: Why didn't they have the red berets teach them how to fish with that net? Seems like that would be the first thing I would want to have tought to me.
Posted by: dschwab
quote:
Originally posted by DancnDude
This show is usually more unpredictable. I forsee some sort of tribe swap/split/etc coming soon that could put the girls back in the game.
Next week's preview made me think that some sort of swap is in the cards, maybe each person can pick if they want to change tribes?
Posted by: TiVoPony
quote:
Originally posted by pmyers
My question is this: Why didn't they have the red berets teach them how to fish with that net? Seems like that would be the first thing I would want to have tought to me.
Could have been of moot value though...
From the previews, doesn't it look like they lose something next week? Or rather, that the guys lose something. Sitting on the beach. All facing the water. Looking around. Could it be that this tribe loses their net too? :rolleyes:
Pony
Posted by: TiVoPony
quote:
Originally posted by dschwab
Next week's preview made me think that some sort of swap is in the cards, maybe each person can pick if they want to change tribes?
That's what it seemed like, it's the first thing most everyone probably thought of, especially with the voiceover saying "something that could change the game forever"...or something like that.
But it's a personal decision too. So maybe they have to give something up to participate. Like their personal luxury item?
Pony
Posted by: uncdrew
My mind immediately went to the "How much money will it take to have you walk off the show right now" kinda thing. It's a personal decision they each have to make individually, it's one that appeared to have tempted many of them, and it will change the game.
However, that concept has been done so I'm hoping for something new.
I'd kind of like to see Clay and Robb on the same team. I'm sure after their choking event that there'd be some fun comments made by both of them if they lived together.
I was cringing last night thinking we'd have a few complaints (hopefully no footage) about what eating 10 bananas a day will do to your system when you haven't eaten much for a while. Phew...
Posted by: DLiquid
quote:
Originally posted by uncdrew
I was cringing last night thinking we'd have a few complaints (hopefully no footage) about what eating 10 bananas a day will do to your system when you haven't eaten much for a while. Phew...
Funny they never go there. With all the gross-out challenges where they have to eat nasty stuff (becoming a annoying trend on reality shows), I would think we would hear something about bodily functions at some point. That has to be a significant part of their experience, especially in that dense jungle with all those creatures crawling and slithering around.
Posted by: dumbunny
quote:
Originally posted by Turtleboy
I was a bit surpirsed by her speech at the end.
At seems that she purposely was using the incident with Ted (and her past rape) to generate strife in the tribe to what she thought was her advantange -- which makes it even worse.
What a horrible person.
I don't think that she's just a horrible person. That doesn't explain her "childish" tantrum, or her muttering while throwing rocks in the ocean. My take on the Ted incident, especially the fact that she "froze" rather than telling him to get off of her, filled her with anger and shame. And then, in accepting Ted's understated apology, she basically "froze" again, not saying all that she wanted to say. I think she has anger management issues, and the "evil" Ghandia's underhanded actions were driven by her anger from the incident -- she was acting in a passive-aggressive manner because she couldn't deal with her residual anger directly. That's my take. That said, I'm glad she's off the island. She needs counseling.
Posted by: justapixel
I saw Ghambia interviewed this morning, and she admitted the incident was all a ploy to get Ted voted off. (Duh.) Her plan was to "ride" Ted to where she no longer needed him and then get him voted off. I guess she felt that when it was men against women, that was the time to get him out, and she would be the strongest. The last day she knew that her strategy had backfired and she was going to be voted off that night.
She said her husband was a bit upset at the way she'd been fawning all over Ted, but he eventually understood that it was part of the game and it was all part of the strategy. :rolleyes:
Anyway, good riddance. I do think Jan will go next, she's the weakest. Too bad it was nice to see a much older woman stay on so long, initially I thought she'd be the first one out.
I think Shii Ann and Jake have a strong alliance, so I'm betting on them for the finals, and Inflatable Erin will ride along with them. Stepanie and Robb are next in line to go, I'm guessing.
Posted by: pmyers
thanks for the good info, Ann. That answers a lot of questions. I do wonder what really happaned and what didn't happen.
Posted by: IJustLikeTivo
quote:
Originally posted by justapixel
I saw Ghambia interviewed this morning, and she admitted the incident was all a ploy to get Ted voted off. (Duh.) Her plan was to "ride" Ted to where she no longer needed him and then get him voted off. I guess she felt that when it was men against women, that was the time to get him out, and she would be the strongest. The last day she knew that her strategy had backfired and she was going to be voted off that night.
And that statement says all you need to know about how much of an Expert Helen is. "I worked on rape crisis for years and I believe her!" The reason the guys did not believe her is that her story was not credible. If she was in fact as angry and disturbed as she said she would have made more of an issue of it. When she saw that no one was buying it but the women she gave up. By the end, she knew it had backfired. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Of course, that doesn't mean I think Clay is a stand up guy either and Jan is just plain useless.
IJLT
Posted by: jradosh
quote:
I saw Ghambia interviewed this morning, and she admitted the incident was all a ploy to get Ted voted off. (Duh.)
I dunno, sounds a bit like spin-doctoring well after the fact. I might believe her if it weren't for those lunatic episodes of punching the driftwood and throwing the stones. That wasn't necessary for her (so-called) ploy to work. :rolleyes:
Regardless, she's gone and good for that. I think there will be some kind of opportunity for realigning the teams next week. I hope they make it interesting and not just 'what color bandana are you standing on'.
I'm rooting for Stephanie, although I doubt she'll make it many more weeks. Anyone that is willing to distance themself from that pack of idiots at SookJive deserves support. :)
Why on Earth did Chewy Gum allow Ghandia another chance to solve a puzzle in the challenge??? There were only two puzzles with two people working one each, but there were 6 people in the tribe. Shouldn't she have been on the sidelines after her performance in the very first challenge? :confused:
J
Posted by: Haps
I was so glad to see her go. She was the one responsible for splitting the tribe along gender lines. Unfortunately that card should only really be played after the merge.
I think Chewing Gum started self-destructing the minute Jan made her last selection.
Posted by: Bill Reeves
quote:
Originally posted by DLiquid
Funny they never go there. With all the gross-out challenges where they have to eat nasty stuff (becoming a annoying trend on reality shows), I would think we would hear something about bodily functions at some point.
In the Survivor: Australia Outback, there was one reward challenge where the contestants were given play money and got to bid on food (mostly junk food helpfully provided by sponsors, e.g. Bud Lite, Mountain Dew, Doritos, etc.). Some of them went nuts and bidded up a storm, and some didn't. Afterwards, they showed the ones who got lots of junk food running off to the bushes frequently. I know that if my stomach had been mostly empty for a couple of weeks and then I hit it with a Bud Lite, I'd be running for the toilet pretty much immediately.
Posted by: Philosofy
I just wondered what's happening to the placement ads. Here's a food challenge, and they get chickens and bananas, not Doritos and Slim Jims.
Posted by: sallypnut
quote:
Originally posted by jradosh
:
Why on Earth did Chewy Gum allow Ghandia another chance to solve a puzzle in the challenge??? There were only two puzzles with two people working one each, but there were 6 people in the tribe. Shouldn't she have been on the sidelines after her performance in the very first challenge? :confused:
J
I wondered that as well. I wonder if the teams of 2 were chosen at random somehow. We never saw how they were picked, I don't think. I was also surprised there weren't 3 puzzles, so everyone would get a chance to work one. Seems strange that only 4 of the 6 got to compete. I know the others were allowed to yell suggestions from the sidelines, but it struck me as odd. ???
Posted by: pmyers
quote:
Originally posted by sallypnut
I was also surprised there weren't 3 puzzles, so everyone would get a chance to work one. Seems strange that only 4 of the 6 got to compete. I know the others were allowed to yell suggestions from the sidelines, but it struck me as odd. ???
that didn't make any sense to me either. Why have 3 teams and only 2 puzzles?
Posted by: Philosofy
And why say that a team of two would do the puzzle if they let everyone else yell out suggestions?
BTW, I used to do tangrams for fun: they can be tricky, but I would wager I could have done both of those in less than 90 seconds.
Posted by: TreborPugly
quote:
Originally posted by Philosofy
And why say that a team of two would do the puzzle if they let everyone else yell out suggestions?
BTW, I used to do tangrams for fun: they can be tricky, but I would wager I could have done both of those in less than 90 seconds.
Once you've done several for fun you start to learn some basic techniques of getting certain types of shapes, so experience would definitely help. But I think I would require a minute or two of just looking at the diagram and the shapes before moving things around, which the team-mates weren't allowing. (Ted's: "Let them think!")
Treb
Posted by: smak
Here's a weird Survivor trickery point:
How is it that during tribal council they showed every vote held up except Helen's (who of course was the vote we didn't know), and coincidentally (?), that was the vote that was shown last?
Was that some editing? I always thought it was Jeff pulling them out at random, but the odds are only 1 in 6 that Helen's vote would have been pulled by Jeff last.
Hmmmm..
-smak-
Posted by: loopey
I beleive when he goes to tally the votes he looks at them and arranges them for dramatic effect.
Posted by: DLiquid
quote:
Originally posted by loopey
I beleive when he goes to tally the votes he looks at them and arranges them for dramatic effect.
Yeah, when he says "tally" he means rearrange.
What I love is how this season Jeff seems to be getting annoyed with the contestants. That was great how he told Clay he had better put a name on his vote next time. When they did the "king of the log" game, Jeff seemed fed up with Sook Jai not being in the "push zone," and then he made some funny comment to Robb after Robb choked Clay. I think it's amusing that these annoying people are getting under Jeff's skin. Much more entertaining that than wooden Amazing Race host.
Posted by: mrboo
Why are the men always sitting around in the surf? I'm guessing it's the heat there, but it always reminds me of a Japanese communal bath. I wonder if they're peeing in there.
Clay's introduction of "Chewy Girl" made me laugh. It was his accent and his delivery (and the fact that he's so tiny) that hit my funny bone.
Helen's statement about being a rape crisis counselor and her taking Ghandia's side in the "he said, she said" war was troubling to me. Issues like race, child protection, and sexual assault (all serious issues) seem to raise such ire in people. Many folks tend to define these issues in very conservative terms and leave no room for subtle shadings in their judgment of people. The burden of guilt always seems to hang around the neck of the accused, who's usually backed against a wall and helpless in defending themselves. Is this just a uniquely American phenomenon?
That Shi Ann just seems like such a bee-actch to me. The way she glares at you if you're short with her and her statements about "don't mess with me". Puhleaze.
Erin, on the other hand, is not getting nearly the airtime we deserve. She's gorgeous. I'm definitely hoping for a Girls of Survivor: Thailand pictorial at the newsstand.
Next weeks teaser just looks like a tribe switch and someone getting caught in the undertow.
Posted by: Turtleboy
I think Erin not getting airtime is a good sign -- that she is going to be around for a while. Generally, they focus on the losers first, so you get to know them before they are kicked off.
Also, I like the Shii Devil. She never forgets that not only is it a game, but that it's also a silly tv show.
Posted by: jhausmann
quote:
Originally posted by smak
Here's a weird Survivor trickery point:
How is it that during tribal council they showed every vote held up except Helen's (who of course was the vote we didn't know), and coincidentally (?), that was the vote that was shown last?
Was that some editing? I always thought it was Jeff pulling them out at random, but the odds are only 1 in 6 that Helen's vote would have been pulled by Jeff last.
Hmmmm..
-smak-
Less than that, actually. Watch 'em when they put the vote in the tally box, they simply place their vote on top. Last vote in should be first vote out...
Posted by: bonehead
quote:
Originally posted by smak
Was that some editing? I always thought it was Jeff pulling them out at random, but the odds are only 1 in 6 that Helen's vote would have been pulled by Jeff last.
I'm still waiting for my coffee pot to finish up, so my memory's a little foggy, but I beleive it was after the first season that either MB or JP confirmed in an interview that they do rearrange the votes for dramatic effect. No big mystery there.
They also go back and reshoot scenes. During the lotus flower challenge, you'll notice that Erin's buff is on her left arm when she's swimming, but on her right arm when she dives under water.
Posted by: jradosh
quote:
Originally posted by bonehead
They also go back and reshoot scenes. During the lotus flower challenge, you'll notice that Erin's buff is on her left arm when she's swimming, but on her right arm when she dives under water.
Yeah, and I remember in last season a sequence of shots where one minute Neleh is wearing shorts while swimming and then suddenly she's in her bathing suit. Same deal... creative editing and lost continuity.
J
Posted by: Philosofy
Also, in the Australia series, when Rodger jumps off the cliff, it shows a point of view as if Rodger were holding the camera. Clearly, he wasn't.
Posted by: Turtleboy
It's most obvious during the overhead shots during the competition. How can they get those overhead shots, and not get any of the crew in the picture? Because the overheads are reshoots.
Often, they will reshoot shots with stand-ins, and not the actual castaways too.
FYI, if anyone is interested, here is a chat with Ghandia -- nothing too exciting though.
http://www.survivorfever.net/chat_ghandia_johnson.html
Posted by: Melody Chalis
What's up with the guy in the surf disappearing in the promo for next week? I think it was Rob.
Looked like a cool scene.
Posted by: dumbunny
quote:
Originally posted by shannon67
What's up with the guy in the surf disappearing in the promo for next week? I think it was Rob.
Looked like a cool scene.
I hope it was Robb and not Ken. It looked like he stepped on something sharp as opposed to something venomous like a sea jelly. Maybe something sharp and venomous, like a stone fish?
Posted by: kiljoy
I don't know. I've been reading this thread and I can't believe the way you all hate Robb. I like the guy. Maybe because I hang around skaters occasionally, but he doesn't rub me the wrong way at all. I also like Shii Ann, but only because I like bitchy, sarcastic women.
Either way, I hope to see a good mix-up with the tribes. This year's tribes just don't have the magic and personality of last year's.
Posted by: David Platt
quote:
Originally posted by kiljoy
I don't know. I've been reading this thread and I can't believe the way you all hate Robb. I like the guy. Maybe because I hang around skaters occasionally, but he doesn't rub me the wrong way at all.
Trying to strangle somebody during a game doesn't rub you the wrong way? ;)
When you even get a reaction out of the supremely detached Jeff Probst, you know you've gone too far.
Posted by: uncdrew
Robb is the most amazingly dense person I've witnessed in some while. That isn't why I don't like him, however. I don't like him because he comes off on the show (to me) as being:
mean
uncooperative
selfish
sexist
insincere
Posted by: sallypnut
quote:
Originally posted by uncdrew
Robb is the most amazingly dense person I've witnessed in some while. That isn't why I don't like him, however. I don't like him because he comes off on the show (to me) as being:
mean
uncooperative
selfish
sexist
insincere
Don't forget "the sorest loser in the world".
I love how Clay is a hillbilly, whiny, crybaby because Robb wasn't in the attack zone when he grabbed Clay by the THROAT.
(is "sorest" a word?;))
Posted by: cello
Robb is like school bullies. He act likes an ass, and justifies it by thinking that others are inferior to him in some way (i.e. whiny... he should look at himself). It is entertaining to have him around, and I hope he sticks around a few more weeks, for the entertainment value. It's fun to yell at the tv. Anger can be cathartic.
On the other hand, I hope he's gone early enough so that he won't be on the jury that picks the winner. He doesn't deserve that.
Posted by: justapixel
quote:
Originally posted by kiljoy
I don't know. I've been reading this thread and I can't believe the way you all hate Robb. I like the guy. Maybe because I hang around skaters occasionally, but he doesn't rub me the wrong way at all.
I know skaters too, and I can't stand Robb. If he doesn't rub you the wrong way, fine, but I don't think it has anything to do with being a skater. :) The ones I've met are perfectly nice, intelligent, easy going people. He's a complete moron.
Bringing a skateboard to a beach was only the first evidence of the stupidity to come! I haven't seem him practicing his ollies, grinds or rock to fakies on the sand lately. :)
Posted by: uncdrew
I originally thought "Hey a skateboard is pretty clever. You could dig with it, use it as a mini-stretcher thingie, use it as a hammer of sorts..."
When I saw him actually riding the skateboard in Thailand, I knew cleverness had nothing to do with it.
Posted by: martinp13
All I have to say about kicking off Ghandia is: Ding-Dong, the _itch is dead! :) Choose your own letter, YMMV.
Posted by: TivoDaddy
quote:
Originally posted by dumbunny
I hope it was Robb and not Ken. It looked like he stepped on something sharp as opposed to something venomous like a sea jelly. Maybe something sharp and venomous, like a stone fish?
During the football games televised by CBS, one of the announcers was promoting the show and circling Robb just before he went under in the surf. Afterwards they show him on the beach writhing in agony. Speculation is that he stepped on a stingray, which then stung him.
The announcer also said that the members would be given 60 seconds to decide if they want to switch tribes. I say that Shi-Ann chooses to switch, which might save her from Robb's wrath. I'm sure she also can't stand Stephanie either.
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