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John Doe, hit or miss? (Possible Spoilers)
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Posted by: innocentfreak

After watching John Doe, I must say I enjoyed it. I am not sure exactly which direction they are going in. The show seemed very much like The Pretender which is not a bad thing. Anyone else looking forward to next week?

Posted by: Guyy

Just finished watching it, and yes I'm looking forward to next week. So far the fall line up is looking pretty good! Still it does not make up for all the shows FOX canceled.

Anyway all and all Joe Doe was good, but a little over the top in some places..

Posted by: Pan Chun

I kinda liked it, but frankly I thought the pursuit of his OWN identity was almost INFINITELY more interesting than the abduction case. I never watched The Pretender, but from what I know of it, there IS some similarity.

I'll watch again.

Posted by: jradosh

The jury's still out for me. I enjoyed it for what it was (the introductory episode), but I hope they find good stories and don't rely totally on John Doe's 'savant' skills for continued interest.

BTW, I'd love to see Monk vs. John Doe on Jeopardy :p

J

Posted by: dthmj

It's a hit here... but then again, I like Life with Bonnie.

Hubby liked it too - didn't stop playing EverQuest to watch it, but at least he followed the plot.

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

I'm on the fence...depends on where they go with it. I felt a lot better after the last minute; I was afraid it was just going to be an endless series of pointless adventures, but if they actually take it somewhere, it could be good.

Posted by: c3po33

I enjoyed it much more than Firefly myself.

Posted by: UnionBuster

I hope they don't fall into a mystery of the week format. That would absolutely sink the show IMO.

Posted by: spartanstew

quote:
Originally posted by c3po33
I enjoyed it much more than Firefly myself.

Ditto, of the two, I still have this SP.

The wife and I both really like it, but I was surprised a little at the ending. I thought that they'd stretch out his identity a lot longer (and I"m sure they probably still will). I'm definately looking forward to where this show can go.

Stew

Posted by: holee

They did this better on THE PRETENDER, and with a better cast. The show looks fun, but it's not as deep as The Pretender was.

Posted by: TiVoPony

Liked it. The previews for next week looked good too.

Pony

Posted by: ehopper

I don't know about this one.

1. I did like tonight's show.
2. I hope it isn't "mystery of the week", but they're going to have to do something to fill 22 hours.
3. If that's the case, well there are about a zillion other cop shows.
4. this needs spoiler tags

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So after ONE WEEK we're going to find out his real name??? Geezzz....

But at least it is not as absolutely awful as "The Pretender".

Posted by: murgatroyd

quote:
Originally posted by jradosh
BTW, I'd love to see Monk vs. John Doe on Jeopardy :p

J

I kept wishing for the cross-over episode with CSI (the original) so I could see John Doe vs. Grissom.

Don't get all three of them in a room together or Monk's captain will blow a gasket for sure. :D

My husband main reaction was to wonder what it must be like to do research for this show.

The guy's supposed to know everything? it would be fun -- you have an excuse to research everything in the known universe -- but brutal, because if you make a mistake, boy, will you ever get letters from the viewers who are experts in the field.

And I've definitely been watching too much CSI, because when JD was going through the motel room I started hollering, "Hey! You're contaminating the scene!" :eek:

Jan

Posted by: DanT

I still haven't watched the actual aired version, but I saw the original pilot a few weeks ago. I know what I saw had to be longer, though, because it was 52 minutes without commercials. But I liked it, and hope it holds up.

And for the record, I didn't like Pretender. Of course, I never saw anything beyond some first-season episodes, but they were utter crap.

Posted by: DJRobX

Hit, but as everyone else here has said, it's going to rely heavily on the writers to keep the stories fresh. Otherwise his know-it-all-ness will just get obnoxious.

-- Rob

Posted by: Tori

I didn't expect to like it at all. Set it up as a one time recording. It was surprisingly enjoyable, but does seem like it could get tired quickly. Ended up setting it up for a SP. This means we won't be able to check out Hack, but that sounded pretty terrible to me anyway.

Too bad he wasn't naked more often. ;)

Of course he did say that one of those shots was a "stunt butt".

-Tori

Posted by: Volk

to save some typing i agree with innocentfreak, UnionBuster, and holee.

Posted by: mostman

Great premise - I enjoyed it a lot. I doubt it will continue to impress however. I expect that after a few episodes, it will be tired and very boring. This sort of idea is better suited for a two hour movie or a mini-series.

-Mike

Posted by: JohnJr

I figure the "why did he see her in color" is the artifice that that will use to stretch the series. I'm pretty much done with it, unless they keep that up, and have exciting stories.

-John

Posted by: DaveLessnau

It was pretty good. The only two problems I have with it are:

1) The type of knowledge he has. If it were like the Library of Congress, that would be ok. But, he also has (randomly) full details of private, non-electronic data bases. A sub-problem of that is that he knows how many of a certain type of car there is in the city but doesn't know who owns them. Plus, why does he need to hack sites on the internet if he knows everything?

2) Some of his (and the police's) responses to stimuli are stupid. I won't be specific here, but instead of helicopters, what was wrong with the Coast Guard?

I can live with those, though. Overall, I was pleasantly surprised by it.

Posted by: ClutchBrake

Totally reminds me of The Pretender (and I have seen every episode). They even had some of the music from The Pretender :D.
Only bad thing? No Ms. Parker. That woman had the best legs on television.

Posted by: LoadStar

Good? Very Pretender vibe. I liked The Pretender while it was still on broadcast television, and this had the same "man in search of his past" theme from that show. (The key difference that I can tell - Jarod always had The Centre chasing after him, where as John Doe seems to be solely internally motivated in his search for his past.)

Bad? They shouldn't have given away his first name already - if in fact they did. Jarod didn't even find out any concrete information for at least a season in The Pretender. Additionally, the kind of knowlege he has seems to be variable, leading to possible plot holes big enough to steer a cruise ship through. Lastly, the black-and-white sequences could become very overdone shortly.

Overall, I think FOX has a fairly strong Friday night lineup, and will probably continue watching.

And yes, Clutch, I agree with your opinion of Ms. Parker. :)

Posted by: bareyb

I liked it. The Season Pass is safe for another week.

Posted by: Thom

I like the first half to 3/4 of it, but I didn't like what happened at the very end.

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The appearance of the plot of land he awoke on, plus the unimpeded view of this spot from space, indicated he may have been placed there by aliens.

Couple this with the fact that his sight had no color, the enormous factual data in his mind, and the integration of knowledge to ability, and you have to wonder if he was an alien-made human look-alike, etc.

But his being recognized in the last scene messed up a lot of those possibilities. Now he may just be the victim of alien abduction who received some improvements, or he may be merely human with amazing knowledge exposure whose brain is functioning differently due to some factor.

I liked it overall, but they covered too much ground in the first episode.

And his self-investigation was more interesting than his search for the little girl. Just like on The Pretender where Miss Parker's investigation of The Centre (and her pursuit of Jarod) was more interesting than Jarod's weekly "formulaec" act of goodwill.

- Thom

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

I has the exact opposite reaction from Thom and others...I was relieved to see some sign of movement right from the beginning. I was afraid this would be one of those shows where they set up a situation at the beginning, and then just basically sit there for years on end. The danger is that they're going to give everything away; the hope is that they're going somewhere unexpected.

There's always a problem with these "mystery" shows; they really can't go on forever without going stagnant. They've obviously addressed the stagnation issue; let's hope they've thought the rest of it through!

Posted by: murgatroyd

Boy, this feels dumb to have so much spoilered but <shrug> what else can I do?

quote:
Originally posted by Thom
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But his being recognized in the last scene messed up a lot of those possibilities.

- Thom

Not necessarily.

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If you're going to make a human look-alike, you've got to mold it on somebody. Why not a missing/dead person? But that doesn't make the copy the same person as the missing guy, any more than twins are the same person.

Jan

Posted by: TiVoLance

I liked the pilot. If only I had a loft in Seattle, muscles, and money out the wazu. About the end of the episode:

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I think the women calling him Tommy was just to set us up for thinking it was him. I bet next week it will be that he just looks like someone or some other explanation. Why in the heck would a show called John Doe give out his real name in the PILOT :P

Posted by: Otto

I could tell exactly where it's going. And sorry guys, but I'm 99% sure that it will be a mystery of the week format, with the occasional "continuing storyline" episode. Hey, it worked for X-Files, right?

I mean look, the guy knows a lot of factual info and he sees important stuff in color. What more clues do you need? He's already in good with the cops, has a cop sidekick kinda thing starting, and has the chief girl wondering what's up with him. Most likely it'll be the story of the week with a clue thrown at him here or there. The fact that the kidnapping was seemingly unrelated to his predicament is what gives it away. At the end, he's starting to search for who he is, what he likes/dislikes, etc. So he's building an identity. All together it's more than enough for a show.

But yep, it'll have to be a mystery of the week format.

Posted by: loopey

He reminds me of Data. He's probably a cyborg.

It was okay, I think I'll setup a season pass for it and see how the next few episodes go.

Posted by: Volk

Mrs. Parker's legs... Good Lord.

Posted by: Pan Chun

quote:
Originally posted by loopey
He reminds me of Data. He's probably a cyborg.

Interesting observation....

Posted by: DanT

I ruled out the cyborg idea, simply because when the Cambodian freighter found him, he was taken to the hospital. I'd expect the doctors to figure out he was a robot. :)

Then again, when it comes time to reveal the truth about him, maybe the writers will forget that and write in one huge gaffe and make him a cyborg.

Posted by: loopey

Not a robot. Cyborg's have human skin, maybe they faked organs for xrays, and he had human blood. We don't know exactly what the doctors did to him (xrays, blood, etc), so I'm sure they could get around that. Actually they didn't even take him to a hospital did they? Didn't they just take his blood pressure on a stretcher on the dock and let him go (not very realistic)?

Maybe his creator erased his memories of who he was and let him loose in the world to see how he he fares. Maybe they just planeted a computer brain in a dead body and brought it back to life.

Posted by: DaveLessnau

If they took him to the hospital, whoever let him out should be fired. Someone brings a total amnesiac found drifting in the ocean into the ER and no one reports it to anyone?

Posted by: LoadStar

quote:
Originally posted by Volk
Mrs. Parker's legs... Good Lord.

That's MISS Parker... her character was single, a fact that would amaze me if it weren't for her sparkling personality. Can we say Br-r-r-r-r? :)

Posted by: allonon

Since Baseball screwed it up for us in the Bay area and I wasn't home to fix it, anyone have it where I can get a copy?

thanks

Posted by: johnjohn

No Centre, no chase, No Miss Parker, No Pretender skills, no reason to compare to "The Pretender."

I thought it was an entertaining Pilot. It remains to be seen whether they can maintain the fresh feeling.

I thought it was a mistake not to link the color vision to a mystery who's solution would bring some piece of the "who am I" puzzle a bit closer.

Posted by: LoadStar

I don't know about "no reason to compare," johnjohn. The main theme behind both shows is the same - a man who helps the helpless, while in search of a past taken away from him. From that aspect, they're exactly the same show. In addition, from the first episode, it seems that the way John Doe seems to suddenly know things is very reminicent of how Jarod would just know things while in the middle of a "pretend." Lastly, both John and Jarod seem to have the same fascination in (re)discovering preferences for things like food and stuff - though Jarod's is a more child-like wonder than John's.

As I pointed out, the key difference is indeed that John Doe is solely internally motivated to find his past, while Jarod was both internally motivated and externally motivated by his desire to escape The Centre.

Posted by: ClutchBrake

quote:
Originally posted by johnjohn
No Centre, no chase, No Miss Parker, No Pretender skills, no reason to compare to "The Pretender."

No Centre, no chase, no Miss Parker... yet. As for no Pretender skills, I would have to disagree. Here are the first two lines from the opening credits of The Pretender.

"There are Pretenders among us. Geniuses with the ability to become anyone they want to be..."

Sounds like Mr. John Doe to me.

Though I liked The Pretender, it was painfully formulaic. Very few times did The Pretender surprise me. But when it did, whoa.

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I think my favorite Pretender surprise was the episode where the bad guy is holding Broots hostage and Jarod shoots him point blank in the face. Finally, some real justice. ;)

With a little diversity and a bit more mystery John Doe could turn out to be what I wanted The Pretender to be. If they would only hire Andrea Parker and give her back her Pretender wardrobe.

Posted by: Bobca

on hiring Andrea Parker and her wardrobe crew..........

Posted by: Cathy/Vik

quote:
Originally posted by innocentfreak
The show seemed very much like The Pretender

That was EXACTLY what I thought while I was watching it, and I LOVED Pretender!!!

they both know way more stuff than anyone should.
they both are helping prople.
they both have no real past to cling to.
they both have mysteries they try to hide from people.
they are both obsessed w/discovering thier pasts.

I'm thilled about this show!

Posted by: rasheed

Good pilot. Tough time slot.

Rasheed

Posted by: AJRitz

My wife and I really enjoyed John Doe - we'll be keeping the season pass. It seemed to us that the show was almost a conglomeration of the entire NBC Saturday Night Thrillogy (that was cancelled for the f***ing XFL). Part Pretender (savant searching for his past) part Profiler (crimestopper able to make incredible intuitive leaps and solve the unsolvable) with a dash of the supernatural a la The Others.

Posted by: johnjohn

The biggest "Pretender" moments were the sudden ability to drive the sports car and fly the 'copter. I understand the similar setups and abilities, but I felt the biggest part of "The Pretender" was the Miss Parker character and the Chase. We don't have that here.

Posted by: Volk

bah just saw a preview for the next episode and it looks like its s mystery of the week show like pretender. pretender owned. why did they can it anyways? (i still watch the reruns on tnt)

Posted by: schiavonir

I liked the show, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up - this seems like one of those shows that they will give about 3 weeks to shine, then axe it if it's not looking promising.

My only problem with the show - can anyone tell me how being super-smart helps you win at the race track? Sure, he has an extensive knowledge of the odds of winning the various bets, but there's no sure thing. It's always a losing game for the bettor, and those odds are being calculated from the bets placed by the bettors, who are most likely betting on their lucky numbers or horse names they like.

As for his market trades, I could see how having an extensive knowledge of whatever he was trading, coupled with good timing, could make a big difference. So that part I can believe, but the track was just silly. As if the horse falling down in one race and him losing everything makes up for it.

Roger

Posted by: innocentfreak

I couldn't believe the track part either only due to the knowledge that most if not all horse racing is fixed. If you don't believe me talk to a jockey.

Posted by: TiVoLance

Ok WHAT was up with that american looking business in a middle eastern looking country. Some sort of government secret society or aliens? I must say adding more angles into this story is making it much more interesting in my eye.

One thing----- In the digital age WHY do mad TV geniuses always write all over the wall when they run out of paper. I mean just get a computer or splurge for some spiral notebooks.

Posted by: Cathy/Vik

Lance, have you ever written on walls? Or at least paper that's on walls?

It's WAY more fun than typing or writing in a boring ol' notebook! :)

I liked this wk's ep too...

Posted by: UnionBuster

This week's ep did its job. It made sure that I'd be back for next week's episode. The Istanbul (whatever) looking place with the people is suits was interesting; is it corporate, governmental, etc?

Posted by: loopey

Tonight's episode was good, but I didn't like how he thought that woman was his wife. Okay if I am married to him and he disappears for a few days and I see him on the dock, I think I would try to find him when I got off the ferry or if the ferry was going the other way go back and try to find him. Unless I was estranged. Why did he think she was his wife? It didn't make any sense.

Posted by: Pan Chun

Wow...so dull I can't even remember it the next day. Too bad I already deleted it. :down:

I'll give it a couple more weeks though.

Posted by: jradosh

Did I forget, or did John Doe (Tommy?) have no color vision at all in this week's ep?

If so, then that adds to the significance of last week's color vision of the lost/kidnapped girl and the woman on the boat.

But maybe I just didn't notice any color in this week's POV shots. BTW, that POV (point-of-view) gimmick is going to wear real thin soon if they don't find a better way of using it in the story line.

J

Posted by: holee

I liked last night's ep better than the premier. Part of it was that his knowledge wasn't as obnoxious but mostly because the other cast members got to contribute. If it's just the John Doe the Superman show, it'll get boring quick. The cast need to do stuff besides marvel at him.

Posted by: ClutchBrake

Now we not only have our "Centre", but we also have the episode where Jarod... I mean John Doe... uses a sensory deprivation tank in an attempt to connect with his past. :D

Posted by: UnionBuster

Heh, good thing I never watched The Pretender on a regular basis.

Posted by: HTH

I was surprised that the star of this show (Dominic Purcell) is such a newcomer. Watching the second episode, I couldn't shake the idea that I'd seen him in a major role in another series. at one moment, I tried dismissing it as him having somewhat of a resemblance to Mel Gibson since the only other thing I've seen him in was Mission: Impossible 2, and I can't remember his character in that.

Now I'm thinking either the role reminds me of The Pretender or my memory's really getting bad and I'm just remembering him from the previous episode. :(

Posted by: murgatroyd

quote:
Originally posted by jradosh
Did I forget, or did John Doe (Tommy?) have no color vision at all in this week's ep?

If so, then that adds to the significance of last week's color vision of the lost/kidnapped girl and the woman on the boat.

But maybe I just didn't notice any color in this week's POV shots. BTW, that POV (point-of-view) gimmick is going to wear real thin soon if they don't find a better way of using it in the story line.

J

I didn't notice any new POV shots in color, just the ones of the girl in the turquoise scarf that we saw from last week.

Jan

Posted by: Tori

I thought the effect when he was working on the sketch was kind of cool.

-Tori

Posted by: Jonathan_S

Was the city out the windows of the "center" Jeruselem? The structure/building on the top of the hill looked kinda familar

Posted by: TivoDaddy

Glad I had the day off to catch up on last week's shows. I'm way behind on commenting on all the other threads.

Really like this show and reminds me of The Pretender as others have mentioned. No one has really mentioned this, but when John/Tommy (what should we call him?) went to look for her on the other side, I thought that she was trying to get away from him. You had a short glimpse of her getting in the car and then John looked over towards her area but just missed seeing her. I believed she was probably forcefully placed in the car (you really can't tell) because she had recognized him. Maybe she was traveling with some other people.

Posted by: trainman

quote:
Originally posted by Jonathan_S
Was the city out the windows of the "center" Jeruselem? The structure/building on the top of the hill looked kinda familar

I read on another forum that it was Istanbul (not Constantinople).

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

Istanbul is Constantinople...Byzantium, too.

That's what happens when a city founded by Greeks and ruled by Romans is conquered by Turks.

Posted by: Otto

Istanbul was Constantinople. Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople. Been a long time gone, Constantinople.

Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlight night.

Posted by: JohnJr

I'm about done with this show... looks like a soap opera.

-John

Posted by: FloridaStateNo1

quote:
Originally posted by Otto
Istanbul was Constantinople. Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople. Been a long time gone, Constantinople.

Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlight night.

Good to see there are other fans of They Might Be Giants in the world...I was beginning to think I was the only one who knew that song! :D

Posted by: UnionBuster

quote:
Originally posted by Otto
Istanbul was Constantinople. Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople. Been a long time gone, Constantinople.

Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlight night.

That would've been a great joke on Buffy last week.

Posted by: murgatroyd

Just stumbled across a review on Locus Online by SF writer John Shirley .

It's interesting to see that Shirley, who has written for TV, instantly zooms in on the critical, make-or-break thing that is important about the show: the researchers. "Too bad they don't give Emmys for that," says John, and I agree.

Jan

Posted by: trainman

quote:
Originally posted by FloridaStateNo1
Good to see there are other fans of They Might Be Giants in the world...I was beginning to think I was the only one who knew that song!

I have it on good authority that Otto's actually a fan of the Four Lads, who recorded that song in the 1950s. :D

Now, I, on the other hand...

Posted by: loopey

Last night's episode was very good. I think they have a nice balance between him discovering himself and him helping the police solve a mystery. It was also kind of cool that we're seeing him as more of a human, dating and such.

It was very interesting to see him remember nothing when under hypnosis (hmm cyborg?). And we got to see more of the "centre".

Posted by: Otto

Okay, first: who are the Four Lads?

And second, why does my Tivo show No Upcoming Eps of John Doe? It also shows none of Firefly, which is an okay show, but I really like this show.

Edit: found this interesting: http://www.content.loudeye.com/scri...0104_00_0002.ra

Posted by: Pan Chun

Next week on Friday night FOX has Baseball. Don't know about John Doe ('cause I'm losing interest fast), but the Firefly promo said "In two weeks"...so Tribune hasn't quite caught up yet.

(edit: typo)

Posted by: jradosh

quote:
Originally posted by Pan Chun
I'm losing interest fast

You and me both. I thought last night's ep was pretty poorly written (somewhat predictable) and lacked any 'spark'.

And I must say that I dislike the extremely slow introduction of the 'agency' (for lack of a bette word) that is tracking John Doe. If that's a plot line, then for goodness sake, please develop it. The little teases at the ends of the eps are just enough to make me frustrated. They don't (as I'm sure they're intended) make me more anxious to see the next episode's 2 minute 'revalation'. :rolleyes:

J

Posted by: loopey

It's on again in two weeks. Freaking baseball.

Posted by: barclay

I think I've given up on this show. Too much useless technobable, and not enough interesting back story to keep my interest.

The preview for the next episode looked somewhat promising, but I'm not sure I'll care enough in two weeks to watch it.

Posted by: Cathy/Vik

It's blowing my mind that people aren't digging this show....

Posted by: jradosh

quote:
Originally posted by Cathy/Vik
It's blowing my mind that people aren't digging this show....

One of the things that pushed me 'over the edge' in yesterday's episode was the whole hang-glider / car chase thing. That's something I'd have expected out of a late 70s/early 80s Quinn Martin production. Maybe in Charlie's Angels or The A-Team, but not in this show. It was stretching credibility (IMO).

J

Posted by: Pan Chun

I'll give it one more try. Then it's toast.

Posted by: loopey

quote:
Originally posted by Cathy/Vik
It's blowing my mind that people aren't digging this show....

Ditto. Okay, jradosh, I give you the glider thing. That was a bit over the top.

I like how slowly they're giving us the "centre" info. If they didn't the show would be over too quickly.

Posted by: JYoung

quote:
Originally posted by Cathy/Vik
It's blowing my mind that people aren't digging this show....

I'm digging Firefly more but John Doe's got my interest for the moment....

Posted by: DaveLessnau

I thought the last episode of "John Doe" was very good. My only quibbles:

-- The hang-glider scene. It seems they're going to make this an ongoing gimmick (Oh, look. I'll chase the car in a hang-glider instead of calling in on my cell phone or driving my half-a-million dollar car around the obstruction. Or, I'll fly the helicopter instead of radioing the Coast Guard).

-- The action-hero splurge at the end. Why does he insist on cornering the bad guy all by himself instead of using the police infrastructure they've built into the show?

-- Why does he feel he's going to find a good relationship in some blind-date-in-a-bar contest? Why not hang around the library or notice the woman researcher who is obviously impressed by him?

Minor stuff, really. Otherwise, enjoyable.

Posted by: Cathy/Vik

quote:
Originally posted by DaveLessnau
-- Why does he feel he's going to find a good relationship in some blind-date-in-a-bar contest?

Well, I can address that quibble with the fact that it wasn't his idea... :D

Posted by: dthmj

I thought the last episode was rather predictable.... I'll use spoiler tags just in case...

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The first think I thought of when they said the guy was locked up all night was "Identical twin". When they found the neurotic woman, I again, thought "sex change.."

Still thought it was a good show, and I'll keep watching, but it would be nice if they didn't "been there done that".

Posted by: TiVoLance

Well I guess we can cross out that the mysterious suit people are good with them killing to cover up his past. What I can't quite figure out is why they would "let him loose". If they wanted to see how he reacted in society wouldn't some other place but a big city in the USA be better. I mean he COULD speak any language. I'm liking the show mostly (sans hang gliding) but I wish they would "get their own thing going". Shows still too generic (yes yes I know the title).

Posted by: mrmike

quote:
Originally posted by DaveLessnau
-- Why does he feel he's going to find a good relationship in some blind-date-in-a-bar contest? Why not hang around the library or notice the woman researcher who is obviously impressed by him?

Real life guys with long histories of bad grade-school and high-school crushes get this stuff wrong all the time. I actually found it very believable that he had no clue what "signals" he was getting from the researcher. The blind date thing, I think he's just excited that maybe he's actually connecting with some people on some level, I didn't get a vibe that he thought it was the true love trip.

-MM

Posted by: Pan Chun

Personally, I think it's ridiculous to even THINK about attempting a relationship when he's SUCH a blank slate. Talk about issues! :rolleyes: I guess for comic relief's sake it was okay, but he has no business trying to start a new life with someone else so soon after discovering his own--and still not understanding it a bit!

Also, don't know if anyone recognized Arye Gross as the pysch doctor...he played Ellen's live-in cousin on her first show and this past summer he was the first "precog murder prevention" perp in Minority Report. :)

Posted by: sean67854

Perhaps the "Agency" as everyone is calling it is trying to protect JD from discovering his past. I say protect as opposed to prevent, because maybe he's an amnesiac for a good reason. Maybe he did something he couldn't live with or some such.

I know, that's all a stretch, but hey, we're just speculating.

Posted by: Pan Chun

By the way, I just went back and re-read this thread...maybe no one else noticed this, because I didn't see it in anyone's post. I'll put it in spoiler tags, "just in case"...it's something about both the tail end of this past week's show and speculation about next week's.

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
One women drove (and, apparently, "ran the show") while two men buried the doctor. We only really saw the face of one of those men. The other one, we only saw his eyes in the rearview mirror. IT WAS JOHN DOE! Not necessarily the lead guy in the show, but definitely the same actor. Couple that with the promo for next week that shows an identical guy from the 1960s and there is definitely some sort of cloning-type thing at work here. So the "Tommy" thing wasn't necessarily HIM, and nothing we ever see about him is really (necessarily) about HIM!

At least, that's what I saw....

Posted by: sean67854

Well, that would explain no memories.

And the office from Ep 2 was in Cairo.