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Interesting TiVo press release (US)
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Posted by: john_west

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/021002/sfw069_1.html

The US TiVo people have issued a press release which not only gives good examples of what people are using their TiVos for, but also analyses data collected about new season passes being set up for the new US programming season.
In TiVo homes they reckon over 80% of popular TV is watched time-shifted rather than live.

John

Posted by: woody

Now we need the UK version, of the top 10 shows Tivo records.

Posted by: radish

Gotta be the Simpsons. I'm 99% sure that it's hardcoded into the suggestions algorithm ;)

Posted by: cwaring

quote:
Originally posted by radish
Gotta be the Simpsons. I'm 99% sure that it's hardcoded into the suggestions algorithm ;)

Well, I've never seen it :)

Posted by: childe

I utilise timeshifting to such an extent that I am quite often completely unaware of world events. I honestly did not know the Queen Mother had died until 2 or 3 days later as I rarely watch TV news and being on holiday I did not hear the radio 4 broadcasts as I would normally when going to work.

Now that is what I call personal scheduling!

Posted by: mini__me

Same here I find it very difficult to keep upto date with current events, I don't read a paper, never listen to the radio in the car and am about a week behind everyone else in terms of tv due to a holiday. I need another holiday just to catch up on my tv from my holiday away. LOL

Posted by: iankb

Yes. I heard a rumour last week that ITV Digital had gone under. :)

Ian.

Posted by: manolan

I think this press release shows the power of the information TiVo collect anonymously. They could index it by some sort of demographic scale and broadcasters would have something they could use to make informed programming decisions.

Posted by: childe

quote:
Originally posted by manolan
I think this press release shows the power of the information TiVo collect anonymously. They could index it by some sort of demographic scale and broadcasters would have something they could use to make informed programming decisions.

It would also be very useful to advertisers to know with reasonable certainty what programmes were actually being watched, especially if the data could be analysed by geographical region. Then all they would have to do is ensure their ads look good enough whilst being viewed at 300x to entice the viewer to rewind. I have been known to do this myself, albeit rarely.

Posted by: jsebright

If TiVo was big enough, advertisers would pay a premium for the last ad of a commercial break - that's the only one I ever see because the jump-back feature goes back to before the start of the next section!

(must get the back door codes set up to fit better with my reactions).

Jon.

Posted by: SimonG

I had to put in a breakfast news 30 min slot and an evening news 30 min manual record as the lowest of the low priority season passes. And I still hardly ever watch it! I have now taken to listening to the radio whilst eating my cornflakes, however JVC are laucnhing a timeshifting radio so that's that buggered!

Posted by: Tony Hoyle

I find I get completely out of sync with what's going on in the world. This leads to a problem, though - all my SPs are coming to an end and I've got less and less stuff in 'now showing' to watch (haven't seen a series preview in ages...)

Pity suggestions are so rubbish they'd be excellent for this otherwise.

I might end up watching live TV if I'm not careful...

Posted by: childe

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Hoyle
I find I get completely out of sync with what's going on in the world. This leads to a problem, though - all my SPs are coming to an end and I've got less and less stuff in 'now showing' to watch (haven't seen a series preview in ages...)

I have the same problem - because I don't see trailers any more, and because I no longer get Radio Times I have to rely on the listings to identify new programmes of interest.

Consequently I find myself watching an ever narrowing selection of programming, including re-runs of old Season Passes. Although I can't blame Tivo for this, it is a downside to the new way of watching TV. I have often missed programmes I would have enjoyed. As you say, if Suggestions worked properly this would not be a problem, but as it is... See my current thread on recent Suggestions problems.

Posted by: SimonG

Have you tried Digiguide. I certainly get my Ł6.99 a year's worth of extra telly from this...

Posted by: iankb

Have you tried the on-line Radio Times ? I notice that they will even send you an email when there are major schedule alterations.

Ian.

Posted by: khadland

quote:
Originally posted by SimonG
however JVC are laucnhing a timeshifting radio so that's that buggered!

Got any more info on this? My SO is always going on about wanting a Tivo for the radio, but as we don't get Sky Tivo aint up to the job and the selection of radio stations the Beeb has chosen for Freeview looks pretty dodgy - no Radio4 for starters!

Keith

Posted by: SimonG

Try searching for a JVC NXHD10 Timeshift only I think. Presumably though with DAB, there will be an EPG leading to more possibilities...

Posted by: MikeH

RE mention of time-shifting radio. TotalRecorder from the Canadian firm High Criteria (www.HighCriteria.com) provides a schedulable recorder which I use with the radio output from Hauppage Win TV. The recordings can be converted to MP3 on the fly.

The new professional version includes a mini-browser which enables it to connect to and record from internet radio stations. This would be a very inexpensive alternative to the JVC.

Posted by: sanderton

From Digital Living Today
With the advent of digital audio components and MP3 music encoding, it's just been a question of time before the standard audio system would include digital storage. According to JVC, the time is now. The unit is the NX-HD10 an integrated CD-Hard Disk Drive audio system- the perfect marriage of high fidelity, advanced computer technology, digital music recording, and micro component convenience. The NXHD10 boasts a 25 watts-per channel micro music system that includes a tuner, a CD player, a 10-gigabyte hard drive like those found inside your computer. The hard drive allows you to store over 200 hours of playback (about 250 CDs) that you can listen to in any order, sequence, or genre at the touch of a button. Forget about carrying CDs with you when you move your stereo from one place to another. Starting now, your music is "custom built" inside your machine. Not only is it easier to take your music with you, but with NX-HD10 you can efficiently sort through your vast collection electronically. Search by artist, by genre, or do a text search for a specific song. If you just want to hear something you like, ask for a list of the ten most heard albums in your collection. Recording CDs onto the drive is easy, done either in the background as you play, or four times as fast in the dub mode. In addition, the NS-HD10's tuner auto-records the most recent 30 minutes of radio programming automatically, so you can always catch that last song you heard on the radio and listen to it again.

Posted by: scoopuk

quote:
Originally posted by khadland

Got any more info on this? My SO is always going on about wanting a Tivo for the radio, but as we don't get Sky Tivo aint up to the job and the selection of radio stations the Beeb has chosen for Freeview looks pretty dodgy - no Radio4 for starters!

Keith

I think DAB radios with a TiVo style 30 min live buffer will take two or three years to appear in shops - I saw a working demo of one at the Radio Festival this year, as demonstrated by Tony King-Smith, the director of Panasonic's design centre.
They'd be intelligent too with auto saving of news and traffic from stations !

I listen to loads of programmes recorded from Radio 4 by TiVo now - just superb on-demand access, including the 0800-0825 prime slot on the Today show every weekday, for listening to when I get up at 0830 !

Re Freeview - judging from the TiVo listings we get now for Sky Digital stations, expect radio programme listings for 5live, 5live sports extra, 6music and jazzfm. Don't expect them for 1Xtra, Asian Network or Oneword.

Kiss, Kerrang, Smash Hits and BBC7 are not on Sky Digital yet

Posted by: john_west

Well the bad news is that the JVC NX-HD10 is $599 at Amazon.com

The JVC website (jvc.co.uk) has a NX-HD10R which has RDS functions on the radio but seems otherwise very similar. A quick search of UK sites found prices from Ł480 to Ł520.

(At least that's less than the usual $=Ł conversion)

John

Posted by: dlorde

That Yahoo! article was an excellent piece of TiVo marketing (why can't they do that here?). It's purpose appears to be to encourage the big networks to give TiVo support (or, at least not to oppose it) by pointing out the power of the viewer preference data it can give them... I only hope that it is seen by the people who count. ISTM the detail provided by anonymous TiVo data more than offsets the worry about commercial skipping.

Posted by: mrtickle

quote:
Originally posted by scoopuk

I think DAB radios with a TiVo style 30 min live buffer will take two or three years to appear in shops - I saw a working demo of one at the Radio Festival this year, as demonstrated by Tony King-Smith, the director of Panasonic's design centre.
They'd be intelligent too with auto saving of news and traffic from stations !

I listen to loads of programmes recorded from Radio 4 by TiVo now - just superb on-demand access, including the 0800-0825 prime slot on the Today show every weekday, for listening to when I get up at 0830 !

I listen to quite a few programmes on R4 too. I wish I could have the luxury of getting up at 0830 though! :(

quote:

Kiss, Kerrang, Smash Hits and BBC7 are not on Sky Digital yet

Eh? Kiss is channel 450 on Sky Digital. Kerrang is 454. Smash Hits is 451. They've been there for ages! Dunno what you mean by BBC7.