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Friggin' CBS... Or is it my local station? (re: CSI)
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Posted by: EchoBravo

Did CSI run about two minutes late tonight or was it somehow just the Phoenix affiliate with a problem? TiVo snipped the end of the show, just as Grissom was in his final-scene showdown with the perp. What the hell!?

This is just two weeks after the Phoenix affiliate (I'm assuming it was a local mistake, not CBS) showed the first 8 minutes of "Without a Trace" in CSI's time-slot before suddenly and without explanation doing a hot-switch and joining the new CSI episode already in progress.

I mean, does somebody's head roll for making a mistake like that? They're making it really hard to follow the show this season.

Posted by: dthmj

Usually, the last bit of Survivor is on my CSI - however tonight, Survivor was done early, and the first bit of CSI was on my Survivor....

I have not yet watched CSI or Without a Trace to see how the rest of the episodes fit in their allotted hours...

I'm just happy basketball wasn't on.

Posted by: Attack

I missed the end also, if someone would please post what happened in the last 2 minutes or so?

Please put the post up in a spoiler tag just encase someone hasn't watched it yet.

Posted by: sacherjj

Mine cut out just after the perp says: "save the best trick for last."

Glad TiVo grabs Without A Trace also. :)

Looks like mine was about 1 - 1.5 minutes off.

If you want a summary about what happened:

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
There was some babble about magic, before the perp was arrested. Grissom stops him before he gets put in the cop car. He takes his flashlight and chacks around in his mouth for a handcuff key. Satisfied, he is loaded into the car and taken off. The scene is of the perp in the back of the car as he forces himself to partially throw up and a key appears as he opens his mouth. Cut to "Produced by Jerry Bruckheimer"

Posted by: Idearat

The timing was royally messed up. CSI started almost 3 minutes early. The entire first crime was on my Survivor recording. ( which was intact).

Then, CSI ran long, the ending coming 1:30 into the Without a Trace recording.

So in total, CSI ran to 64:30, starting early and finishing late. Maybe the Phoenix station bloated it with too many commercials?

Posted by: EchoBravo

This sounds a lot like the time-shifting games NBC used to play with Friends in order to make people miss the beginning of Survivor (or something like that).

I wonder if CBS' 64-minute CSI was intentional or an "honest" mistake involving too many spots being crammed in?

In any case, the networks may have found a way to really screw with the heads of PVR users.

I'm saved since I get the whole night (Survivor, CSI, Without a Trace). But what if I switched to another channel after one of them?

Posted by: pyrite504

It happened in Chicago too. I don't tape survivor or without a trace. If CBS starts pulling the same crap NBC does, I'll be really upset.

quote:
Originally posted by Idearat
The timing was royally messed up. CSI started almost 3 minutes early. The entire first crime was on my Survivor recording. ( which was intact).

Then, CSI ran long, the ending coming 1:30 into the Without a Trace recording.

So in total, CSI ran to 64:30, starting early and finishing late. Maybe the Phoenix station bloated it with too many commercials?

Posted by: Pan Chun

quote:
Originally posted by EchoBravo
This sounds a lot like the time-shifting games NBC used to play with Friends in order to make people miss the beginning of Survivor (or something like that).

They're still doing something like that...Scrubs starts at 8:32. But at least TiVo now recognizes and compensates for that!

Posted by: GDG76

It got cut off on both the beginning and end for me. It's ok, if one more episode is as hokey as last night's was, I'll be cancelling it anyways.

The whole episode made little sense to me (even when i figured it out) and just seemed to set up some new mysterious foil for Grissom who doesn't seem interesting in the least.

drew

Posted by: philw1776

Well, I for one loved Grissom's new foil. This CSI is SO much better written, cast and plotted than its insipid Miami clone. I loved the idea of reuniting the cast from "Manhunter" {William Peterson was the FBI guy and Tom Noonan, the magician, was the villian}. I've not seen the "Red Dragon" remake. Fortunately, I Tivoed both shows with season passes.

Posted by: EchoBravo

Stating the obvious, I think last night's awful episode was a Halloween "treat." Well, it certainly left me sick.

I'm with GDG76, though. If another episode has timing issues .. I'm cancelling my SP anyway .. not that anyone cares.

Posted by: jlb

good thing I catch WaT also.....

Posted by: sacherjj

The one thing that really bugged me about last nights episode was:

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
Do you really have to cut off someones thumb, remove the bone, and insert it onto your finger to get a print. Why can't you just get it off the corpse. If the external skin was too damaged to support a print, then Grissom's method wouldn't work.

Seems like they were just trying to go a little too over the top for Halloween.

Posted by: jasoncarr

quote:
Originally posted by sacherjj
The one thing that really bugged me about last nights episode was:

Spoiler Alert! (highlight to read)
Do you really have to cut off someones thumb, remove the bone, and insert it onto your finger to get a print. Why can't you just get it off the corpse. If the external skin was too damaged to support a print, then Grissom's method wouldn't work.

Seems like they were just trying to go a little too over the top for Halloween.

I've seen it done that way in real autopsies, particularly for badly decomposed or floaters.

My guess is that it wasn't necessary here, they just wanted it because of the gross-out factor.

Posted by: debbie6754

I had the same problem here in NJ. I missed the very end scene.:mad:

Posted by: pugsley07302

Hi,

It's not a Phoenix thing - It's not even a "CBS" thing - it's a network thing. Apparently, the networks have been doing this kind of stuff in an effort to get people to watch their new shows or boost their ratings in a particular time slot. With TIVO though, these shenanigans are much more apparent. Fortunately for me, I have Missing Persons Season Pass, so I got the last little bit of the CSI storyline- and it was a doozy (looks like there setting up another story arc- a la the bathtub serial killer from last year). Anyway, I doubt that this egregious behavior by the networks will stop, so I suggest you either fiddle with the end times of CSI or start watching Missing Persons (which is turning out to be quite a good show.)

Posted by: brettatk

As posted by pugsley07302
so I suggest you either fiddle with the end times of CSI or start watching Missing Persons (which is turning out to be quite a good show.)

Just wanted to point out the show that comes on after CSI is called Without a Trace. And as pugsley07302 posted, it is a pretty good show. So if you have nothing else recording after CSI give it a try.

Brett

Posted by: coldtoes

Grrr... I caught the beginning on the end of Survivor, but missed the end, so thanks for the spoilers. It figures that two weeks in a row I spoiled Survivor by seeing the person voted off at the beginning of my Push, Nevada recording, and the first week I actually watched Survivor before the 9:00 show, it ends early.

Is this where we're headed? Programming will stop conforming to any kind of time boundaries, in the networks' hope that we'll stop changing channels? Aargh.

Posted by: Jon J

FWIW...Just talked with an engineer at the local CBS station who confirmed CSI started 2 minutes before the hour and ended 3 minutes after the hour because the producers couldn't edit the program to fit their allotted time. So they took the time from the earlier program and intruded into the following program. It was a one-time event, he claims.

Posted by: EchoBravo

quote:
I suggest you either fiddle with the end times of CSI or start watching...

I bought a TiVo so I wouldn't have to "fiddle" with stuff anymore. If crap like this week's time-shifting continues, I'll just cancel that Season Pass and watch something else. I love & value all my Season Passes, but there's not a show on TV that's indespensible or irreplaceable.

F 'em!

Posted by: doom1701

Thanks to whoever posted the ending; our CSI SP now has some padding.

Posted by: mitchb2

This just plain sucks. I'm not going to support any network that does this.
Are there any active campaigns to let the networks know that we don't support being strong-armed into watching only their networks?

Posted by: vertigo235

Same problem here, I was just about to delete without a trace season pass. I guess I'll keep it now.....

Posted by: Hatch

I also noticed that "Friends" was a 32-minute recording that night... However, since it recorded the whole thing, I am assuming that this was a planned schedule change. In fact, now that I think of it, the final episode of "Seinfeld" was 40 minutes long, wasn't it?

My big problem with padding is that during heavy recording times, I end up with scheduling conflicts with the two shows that come on for the next hour.

Posted by: betativoII

I've been having CSI trouble too. I have a season pass for CSI, but because the guide shows it as airing from 8-9:05, it wouldn't let me set a season pass for Without a Trace, even though it's on the same channel, right after CSI. It shows as a conflict. :rolleyes:

I had to set up a manual recording for Without a Trace.

Posted by: oakraidr

Thanks for the ending.

Did anyone else notice the relationship the the "Hannibal Trillogy" from Harris? The Magician was in the movie Man Hunter with William. The "Moth", which is referenced "The silance of the lambs"

But i could not find a reference to Hannibal. I thought it Might be in the ending.