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Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

Well, it's becoming clear to me that the Arabs have nothing to do with anything. Reza is being framed by his future father-in-law, and the Muslim world will rise up in righteous wrath over the death of the ambassador, which will only complicate matters further.

Damn those Germans! Why must they blow up LA?!?

Posted by: Maui

Okay, how many episodes into this are we?

I didn't criticize Kim much at all last year compared to others here but now I find myself dreading them cutting to her.

Posted by: bigray327

quote:
Originally posted by Maui_Lover
I didn't criticize Kim much at all last year compared to others here but now I find myself dreading them cutting to her.

I, on the other hand, am proud to say this was my first use of the slow motion button this week. :)

Posted by: Imageek2

quote:
Originally posted by Maui_Lover
Okay, how many episodes into this are we?

I didn't criticize Kim much at all last year compared to others here but now I find myself dreading them cutting to her.

Note to 24's producers...kill her...please.

Posted by: Corey140

quote:
Originally posted by bigray327
I, on the other hand, am proud to say this was my first use of the slow motion button this week. :)

Looking at that one eye beauty, eh ;) :D...

Posted by: zaknafein

:D

Pretty good episode. They at least explained the Nina situation reasonably well.

Posted by: MalachiNY

I wanna know what happened to the helicoptor though.

- Was that guy (Sahid) on it too?
- Didn't they arrive on it?
- If so, was it tampered with on the presidents compund?
- Or was it a remote bomb (of sorts)?

Didn't I hear Nina say she wanted to work in the "field" with one of CTU's agents?

Not to spoil it for those who don't watch the previews for next week BUT i just love Jack's attitude about things this year. His wifes death has really changed him.

Kim ... I also believe she should not return next year ... but as far as an impact on Jack's psychy (sp?) they should not kill her off ... I say have her become a missionary in Africa or something ... That way there is no way to contact her or see her. Then she can just be brought up in the 3rd person.

Mal---

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

...or maybe next year, Kim can be captured and tortured for 24 hours, but by somebody who has nothing whatsoever to do with the plot of the show. And she never escapes. And she's gagged the whole time.

No little kid. No Mom. Just Kim. Being tortured.

Yeah...it could happen...

Posted by: Beavis

quote:
...but now I find myself dreading them cutting to her.

Ditto. Every time I see her, I cringe and yell "...what an idiot!". My wife then yells at me for "...pulling her out of the show". Send her to Africa!:D

Posted by: RGM1138

Man, this show is intense. A real page turner. And, it's got to have the highest BCPH, (Body Count Per Hour), of any series on the air.

Anyway, Jack Bauer is NOT the guy to be interrogating Nina Meyers. He's way too personally involved. Maybe he could better serve by whacking off the head of the child/wife abuser.

Speaking of, I'm no Constitutional scholar, (or lawyer), but I'm thinking that there might be a few state and federal laws against killing and then beheading a person, (even a scumbag) in the line of duty.

I'm looking forward to the sequel: Hour 25 - The Debrief, where Jack has to tell the President that he whacked and dismembered a guy to get to a suspect who, oops, didn't have the nuclear boomen after all. :)

Bob

Posted by: Dancar

No one's mentioned that Jack was able to drive from Joe's place in Simi Valley back to CTU in LA, (getting past the police line around the bomb site) in slightly less than 10 minutes.

Someone pointed out in another message board that Jack told Kim to go to Aunt Carol's house in San Jose and that'd he's call her in "a couple of hours."

I've figurd out that in 24 time, travel times are about a third of what they really are. Therefor, on 24 you can drive from LA to Simi Valley in 10 minutes, and to San Jose in 2 hours.

Oh, we still don't know exactly where the wedding party is located (Westlake Village? Malibu? Newport/Laguna?), but it didn't take Tony long to get there. Can someone who still has it on TiVo time it for us?

Posted by: Maui

Man I hope I never start analyzing the times that much.

Luckily I have no idea of drive times, distances or locations in and around L.A. so it never even gives me pause.

Posted by: Corey140

Just one question. Did the ambdassdor helicopter have the intel on it?? I'm not sure on that point...

Posted by: MalachiNY

Are we going to do this "time" thing for every episode?

Lets not ... OK?

If you feel you have to; make a "24 drive time thread" please!

Mal--

Posted by: pmyers

quote:
Originally posted by MalachiNY
Are we going to do this "time" thing for every episode?

Lets not ... OK?

If you feel you have to; make a "24 drive time thread" please!

Mal--

Amen brother!

Posted by: philw1776

My thoughts...

Jack may have an out for his beheading, etc. Can you say "Presidential pardon"? This President has the sack to do it.

Kim was tolerable until last night. Bringing in the LOSAH boyfriend did it for me. If she must be there as a drive for Jack's motivation, next season have her being abused & tortured while scantily clad.

I think we all know WHO is gonna be the hero and sacrifice his "life" to manually defuse the bomb when Jack finds it, right?

I will be pissed if the network takes the all to common Hollywood PC out and has some obscure Euros as the real terrorists and Reza as an innocent.

Can't wait for the Jack & Nina. She LOOKS evil this year.

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

quote:
Originally posted by philw1776
I will be pissed if the network takes the all to common Hollywood PC out and has some obscure Euros as the real terrorists and Reza as an innocent.

Yeah, like those silly PC buggers after Oklahoma who tried to say that it might not be Muslims, only to be laughed at and sneered at and mocked and...

...oops. Never mind.

Posted by: tonyoci

I agree with the Father in Law theory. I think he is framing Reza but I am not sure why he would go through with this whole wedding thing.

I agree that "who cares" about the time problems, it's the drama of the show that matters.

I am not so convinced about the "bomb diffusing" theory. It just seems to obvious and there is too much time to go yet. I think it is there as a distraction.

The Kim story is not that bad though it does annoy me that it takes time away from the much more interesting story.

There is too much time left in the show, new characters must arrive and be shown.

Jack cutting of the head did allow him to get to Wald which let him get to Nina which will ultimately get him to the bad guys so it was not in vain.

Currently this is the only show that I cannot wait for each week.

T

Posted by: erk48188

I tried watching twice (although I was working at the same time), and I still don't understand...how is it that Nina is in custody?

Posted by: Dancar

erk:

You need to broswe the sites off this link and read a synopsis of the 1st season...

http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/...hows/Dramas/24/

Posted by: keyzersoce

After Jack told Kim about the nuclear bomb, and siad not to tell anyone, I expected the next scene to be out of a 50's Japanese sci-fi flick. The roads out of LA would be clogged with cars, pedestrians, bikes, etc. We laughed out loud when he said not to tell anyone.

Posted by: Rob Helmerichs

As for the bomb being a distraction, I think it's more like the bomb is this year's Gaines...remember, the bomb is going off today, yet after "today" ends, there are still eight hours left for Plan B.

Yes, something else is coming. Any guesses as to what?

Certainly the Iraqi response to the death of their ambassador will complicate things! But I suspect it will be time for the Berlin Group (who were behind the Palmer assassination attempt, and are presumably behind the nuclear bomb) to step forward. Who are they? What do they want? Why do they keep making poor Jack have really really bad days? :D

Posted by: rasheed

quote:
Originally posted by philw1776
I will be pissed if the network takes the all to common Hollywood PC out and has some obscure Euros as the real terrorists and Reza as an innocent.

I don't think it has always gone the route you indicated if you look at recent episodes of Agency, West Wing, or Without a Trace.

Rasheed

Posted by: justapixel

quote:
Originally posted by Medieval Guy
Certainly the Iraqi response to the death of their ambassador will complicate things! But I suspect it will be time for the Berlin Group (who were behind the Palmer assassination attempt, and are presumably behind the nuclear bomb) to step forward. Who are they? What do they want? Why do they keep making poor Jack have really really bad days? :D

My guess is Reza's father in law to be is part of the Berlin group. How they connect those dots should be interesting.

Posted by: ehopper

quote:
Originally posted by rasheed
I don't think it has always gone the route you indicated if you look at recent episodes of Agency, West Wing, or Without a Trace.

Rasheed

Agency, to name one show, has declined dramatically. It has treaded, on occasion this season, with the tired old "CIA are bad guys" partyline popular among Hollywood leftists.

West Wing has, surprisingly, called a terrorist a terrorist and not hidden behind fantasy Nazis like "Sum of all Fears" did.

Posted by: ehopper

quote:
Originally posted by keyzersoce
After Jack told Kim about the nuclear bomb, and siad not to tell anyone, I expected the next scene to be out of a 50's Japanese sci-fi flick. The roads out of LA would be clogged with cars, pedestrians, bikes, etc. We laughed out loud when he said not to tell anyone.

Whenever "24" is about to suck greatly, you can find Kim nearby.

Please, please, please KILL KIM. I want her DEAD!!!!

Posted by: justapixel

quote:
Originally posted by ehopper
Agency, to name one show, has declined dramatically. It has treaded, on occasion this season, with the tired old "CIA are bad guys" partyline popular among Hollywood leftists.

Are we watching the same show?

I love Agency this year, it's much better than last. I like the mix between good and bad, it reminds me a bit of the Shield. It was too goody-goody for me last year, I guess in part due to Gil Bellows. I like him, but the show is much improved without him.

Posted by: jb007

The Agency is just becoming too far-fetched this season. Last season Terri Lowell was new to the CIA -- as a graphic artist. This year, not only does she remain a graphic artist, she also goes into the field as an operative -- using weapons and fighting bad guys in hand-to-hand combat in foreign countries?

I like the story lines, and I like Paige Turco, I just wish I didn't have to willingly suspend my disbelief to such an extent:(

Posted by: smak

Agreed on The Agency and Paige Turco, she's a nice looking woman, and a good actress. I like the Stiles character much better than the Gil Bellows one too...

I give them credit for being one of the few shows to show any kind of portrayal of a post 9/11 America.

As for 24, I really would give this show even more kudos if Mason is not the hero at the end of the bomb situation. We can see it hours and hours ahead, that it would be a normal thing to do to have the dying guy save the day. I hope they come up with something else!

-smak-

Posted by: tonyoci

quote:
Originally posted by smak

As for 24, I really would give this show even more kudos if Mason is not the hero at the end of the bomb situation. We can see it hours and hours ahead, that it would be a normal thing to do to have the dying guy save the day. I hope they come up with something else!

-smak-

I think they will come up with something else, it is too obvious for such a "cutting edge" show, plus I understand that they do not write the whole series in advance so they will be able to make changes based on the reaction to earlier stuff.

T

Posted by: richNYC

Did anyone notice the time display in the lower right corner of the footage of the helicopter going down? I think it was 1:18, but obviously chopper went down before 1:00.

Not that I care, it's just a fun game to find time inconsistencies in this show that is all about what time it is.

Posted by: scooterboy

quote:
Originally posted by richNYC
Did anyone notice the time display in the lower right corner of the footage of the helicopter going down? I think it was 1:18, but obviously chopper went down before 1:00.

Not that I care, it's just a fun game to find time inconsistencies in this show that is all about what time it is.

But Washington DC is a few hours ahead of L.A. - "24 time" is L.A. time, yes?

Posted by: richNYC

quote:
Originally posted by scooterboy
But Washington DC is a few hours ahead of L.A. - "24 time" is L.A. time, yes?

good point. but the prez isn't in dc. he's in the northwest somewhere (Oregon?)?? and that's where the chopper went down, right?

Posted by: scooterboy

quote:
Originally posted by richNYC
good point. but the prez isn't in dc. he's in the northwest somewhere (Oregon?)?? and that's where the chopper went down, right?

Not sure on that one - he's been indoors for so long I've lost track. Are we sure they never had him return to DC (if only to get him further away from the potential blast)?

Posted by: richNYC

That's a long flight and he surely wasn't on a plane for an extended period or absent from any episodes. I think he's still in the Pacific Northwest.

Posted by: Dancar

Palmer is in some sort of remote command center a short distance from Lake Oswego, Oregon, which in the show is in the Cascades surrounded by snowy mountains but in real life is an upscale suburb of Portland.

Posted by: DanT

I just went back and looked at the timecode issue. Initially, the number was obviously NOT a timecode, but when they cut back to the TV and zoomed in, it showed "01:18:27.xxx" counting up. Notice the "01" part. If it were a time-of-day display, it would be reading "13" or just "1", assuming the clock was set right. I think what it was really supposed to be was an elapsed time on the tape. So that cameraman had filmed an hour and 18 minutes of other stuff before the chopper went down.

Just my theory, but I think it's a good one.

Posted by: richNYC

ok. good theory. was the date on there at all? what is the date of this season anyway?

Posted by: thehepcat

I'd just like to chime in with the Kill Kim crowd. Please. She's too stupid to live.

I'd be surprised if Mason is still alive at sunrise. His cough is getting worse. What's the over/under on when he pulls that handkerchief away from his mouth to reveal a blood stain on it????

Posted by: DanT

I didn't see a date on the crash video at all.

We haven't seen/heard a date mentioned yet, although we should be able to figure out a month. It's been something like 14(?) months since the first season, which was the day of the CA primary, which is in May IIRC. I'm pretty sure they also said Palmer had been in office for 6 months. Since the President is inaugurated in January, both those numbers would support a July date.

As for Mason's handkerchief revealing blood, I'm going to guess the 4:00pm hour, possibly even 3:59:xx for a cliffhanger, although it's not much of a cliffhanger.

Posted by: Maui

quote:
Originally posted by ehopper
Whenever "24" is about to suck greatly, you can find Kim nearby.

Please, please, please KILL KIM. I want her DEAD!!!!

I don't go that far.

It just seems that 24's writers really write most of the women stupid. probably the best written female character in last weeks show was the nurse who kept giving the girls father attitude.