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I like Enterprise
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Posted by: Haps

I have recently began watching Enterprise. I don't get UPN so I can't watch it there but I have been downloading episodes off of Emule. I'm up to about episode 18 of the first season and I have been enjoying it.

I do see some people's complaints about the show. It is by no means a great show. It can be quite formula based. The characters haven't really grabbed me yet. The writing is pretty thin in some spots.

But I think what intertests me the most is just the imagination. Any star trek show is a good show. I just like the universe and like to imagine being there. Seeing new things for the first time etc. Hopefully the show picks up a bit in the second season but it won't stop me from watching.

Posted by: feldon23

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Posted by: vman41

I found the first season OK, the second season is terrible.

Posted by: jones07

The third season will be the charm . just Like all the other ST series.

Posted by: JYoung

quote:
Originally posted by jones07
The third season will be the charm . just Like all the other ST series.

uh huh.... just like Voyager :rolleyes:

Posted by: JYoung

quote:
Originally posted by Haps
I have recently began watching Enterprise. I don't get UPN so I can't watch it there but I have been downloading episodes off of Emule. I'm up to about episode 18 of the first season and I have been enjoying it.

For the most part, it gets worse from this point on.....

Posted by: DLL66

yeah..............just like DS9 took off................................................:rolleyes:

Posted by: tgr131

Did you actually watch DS9. Had a great story arc the last few seasons, although it went out with a whimper (IMHO!)

Posted by: TiVoLance

I like Enterprise ok. The one about having to live in the catwalk was a good one I thought. But hey I also got way bored with the Cardassians and the Dominion in DP9. To each their own.

Posted by: vertigo235

DS9 was great, but I didn't really find out until years later when it was in repeats. I stopped watching it after season 2 the first time.

Posted by: Bryanmc

Enterprise is ok for me. Every week I don't know if I'm going to get a bad show or a good one.

DS9 was gold. I'm currently watching it in repeats and loving every minute of it.

Posted by: jlb

I generally like Enterprise, as long as T' Pol gets plenty of screen time:

http://www.wrrv.com/images/joleneblalock.jpg (Edit by Otto: Picture changed to link, not really work safe)

Posted by: Skittles

Enterprise is a bit hit-or-miss right now. Some episodes, I get 15 minutes into them and I'll just delete them, while others I'll watch once and leave on the DTiVo for repeated viewing. I'm also hoping that the "Third Season" trend hits next year.

And as for DS9....I, like many others, stopped watching during the first season, and later regretted it once it started getting spectacular in the third and fourth seasons.

Posted by: jlb

Wouldn't it be great if they brought in Q?

That is one story line that would not mess with the Star Trek timeline.

Heck, they could even use it as a way to get some guest shots (or re-use footage) of the TNG cast. Heck, they could put Archer onto the Bridge during the Far Point Mission a la "IT's a wonderful life"

Posted by: jimborst

quote:
Had a great story arc the last few seasons

Now as someone that couldn't stand DS9........I am really getting ready for flames here, but by great story arc, do you mean turned the show into a soap opera, because that's generally when I couldn't watch anymore.

Posted by: Bryanmc

quote:
Originally posted by jimborst
Now as someone that couldn't stand DS9........I am really getting ready for flames here, but by great story arc, do you mean turned the show into a soap opera, because that's generally when I couldn't watch anymore.

If your definition of story arc is soap opera, then I guess so.

What do you mean by "soap opera"?

Posted by: DaveLessnau

quote:
Originally posted by jlb
... as long as T' Pol gets plenty of screen time...

Which is precisely why we get garbage for shows. Wave some ta-tas around the screen and half the population suddenly "thinks" it's a good show.

Posted by: Skittles

quote:
Originally posted by DaveLessnau
Which is precisely why we get garbage for shows. Wave some ta-tas around the screen and half the population suddenly "thinks" it's a good show.

What's this about Seven of Nine, now? :)

Posted by: DLL66

quote:
Originally posted by DaveLessnau
Which is precisely why we get garbage for shows. Wave some ta-tas around the screen and half the population suddenly "thinks" it's a good show.

Nothing wrong with eye candy!!!!

Posted by: bigray327

I like Enterprise, too. Held to the same standards as other shows, I think it's good work.

I've learned to avoid Enterprise-bashing threads by Panchunesque comic book guys. I think some of you people take the little people in that magic picture box way, WAY too seriously.

Posted by: DLiquid

I kinda liked the first season of Ent, but this season has been crap, IMO. Every time Archer goes into one of his long-winded idealistic speeches I expect some patriotic chez music to start playing in the background.

Posted by: DLL66

quote:
Originally posted by bigray327

I think some of you people take the little people in that magic picture box way, WAY too seriously.

Finally somebody with a dose of reality!!:up::D

Posted by: jones07

Amen

Posted by: kiljoy

I, too, wish I'd continued to watch Deep Space Nine. If the series ever goes on to DVD, I'll buy them, if only because I stopped watching so early in the series. By the time I saw them again, they had so much backstory, I couldn't keep up.

Enterprise, on the other hand, sucks. I'll keep watching, but it's only to whet my appetite for Law & Order later on that night. Maybe that's why I like L&O, because after the crap that proceeded it, anything would look exceptional.

Posted by: Skittles

quote:
Originally posted by kiljoy
If the series ever goes on to DVD, I'll buy them, if only because I stopped watching so early in the series.

The first season boxed set of DS9 comes out on February 25th :)

Posted by: jasonl99

quote:
Originally posted by jlb
I generally like Enterprise, as long as T' Pol gets plenty of screen time:

http://www.wrrv.com/images/joleneblalock.jpg (Edit by Otto: Picture changed to link, not really work safe)

Could she be any hotter? :up:

Posted by: jones07

She could put a little meat on them bones. But she is a hottie.

I know I know "Real" Sci-Fi and "Real" Sci-Fi Fans do not need or like eye candy. I don't care. I liked 7 of nine and I like T'pol :D

Posted by: kiljoy

Hey, I liked Seven of Nine for the character. How "real" is that? :D

Posted by: mrcoaster

I like the show, too. Is it always great? No, but few shows are great every week. Sometimes there are plot holes, sometimes the story's thin....whatever....all I care about is do I enjoy watching it most of the time and the answer is "Yes, I do."

I'm in full agreement that sometimes this stuff (especially the bashing in the Trek universe), is taken way too seriously. As Shatner once said on SNL..."It's just a TV show!"
;)

Posted by: martinp13

I finally got around to watching "Catwalk", and I was pleasantly surprised. No big plot holes, no stupid contrived BS... just a situation, a solution, a Major Plot Complication, and a resolution. The only thing I didn't like was "Gee, I'm sorry we lied". Shoulda been followed with a "No prob... into the airlock with ya...". :)

Posted by: JPriller

quote:
Originally posted by jlb
Wouldn't it be great if they brought in Q?

NO.

Q, Wesley and the holodeck form the triumvirate of awfulness that made ST:TNG such a effort to like. When I think of the really, really good TNG episodes (and there were a number of them), none of those things were in them.

Staying on topic, thus far I like Enterprise. At times the plots are a little thin, but nothing so far has made me cringe in horror at what Star Trek had become like TNG sometimes did.

Posted by: kiljoy

I was never as annoyed by Wesley as everyone else. I think he developed nicely, and I always liked him better than Transporter Chief O'Brien. I especially liked the ep. where Wes was at the academy and screwed up some shuttlecraft.

Posted by: Haps

quote:
Originally posted by JPriller
NO.

Q, Wesley and the holodeck form the triumvirate of awfulness that made ST:TNG such a effort to like. When I think of the really, really good TNG episodes (and there were a number of them), none of those things were in them.

Staying on topic, thus far I like Enterprise. At times the plots are a little thin, but nothing so far has made me cringe in horror at what Star Trek had become like TNG sometimes did.

I liked the holodeck. Part of the reason I like these show is watching them makes me either wonder about spac elike things ar emeeting new specie4s etc. Or it stimulates my imagination. The holodeck was awesome for that to think of the things you could do in it. From just hobby type stuff like golfing to immersing yourself in different cultures/timeperiods/historical events.

Posted by: Bryanmc

I'm a big fan of the holodecks.

What I hate is how they became such a tired plot device. When they were background technology, they're cool. When they foul up a ship over and over and over and over, they suck.

Q was another thing that I liked at first. He was cool when he really was feared as this all powerful thing that Picard had to whine and beg before. Now he's just a wuss. Same with the Borg. Who fears them anymore?

Posted by: JPriller

I just couldn't stand Wesley. Probably I just wasn't the demographic he was supposed to appeal to.

Q and the holodeck have one thing in common, though - with a being that can make anything happen and a place where anything can happen, the writers get lazy and (to paraphrase Bryanmc) the plots get chronic wasting disease.

Q is a walking Deus Ex Machina anyway, the only barely interesting Q episode is the one where he temporarily lost his powers.