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Freezing only during live view
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Posted by: crabbon

My TiVo (HDDR112) unit worked fine out of the box (tested for about 30 days). I then upgraded it to two 120GB drives, giving me about 300 hours of recording time.

Everything looked great at first. Programs played with no problems (I transferred programs from the 30gb drive to the new ones). Then I noticed some problems:

1) Freeze while watching live tv.
2) If I left the unit on, many times the next time I turned on the TV, it was frozen.
3) Every once in awhile, I will be watching a show and it will lock up. The program has corruption on it, cause it always freezes in the same spot. Many times I can go to the end, and back up to a spot that works, and continue playing, oftentimes, unable to play about 5 to 20 minutes of video.

I learned that if I put my unit on standby, it would not lock up. So, now I take my unit out of standby and watch shows, or put it in standby and watch TV without TiVo.

I have lived with it now for about a year, and 90% of the shows I watch using the above techniques never have problems. But, the 10% is getting annoying (especially when it freezes on your favorite show at a most important scene).

I have about 200 programs on there, and would rather not do a TiVo 'start over' or whatever they call it which erases all data.

Any suggestions,

Corey

Posted by: jerrymc

Corey,

one suggestion would be to not wait a year to deal with a problem. :D

Seriously, though. You have a bad spot(s) on a disk and each time a program (or the live buffer) uses the area with the bad spot, you get a freeze. The only solution is to pull the disks and run the manufacturer's diagnostics on them. Either they can be repaired (remapped) or they will have to be replaced. Either way, you're going to lose the recordings. I suggest you save to VCR anything you can't stand to lose and bite the bullet. It's not going to get any better otherwise.

Good luck,

Jerry

Posted by: jerrymc

Oh, and doing a full system reset won't help. The bad spots will still be there and eventually, the problem will recur.

-Jerry

Posted by: crabbon

Thanks for the reply.

Glad to hear that a full reset won't do it, cause I really didn't want to do that anyway.

I'll pull the drives and do the Man'f Diags on them. Hopefully that will cure it.

These drives were new when I put them in, and I didn't do the testing. I betcha it's probably just one drive.

Corey

Posted by: jerrymc

Corey,

Just to clarify, you will have to reload the Tivo software after you fix any bad spots. Data is not retained with this fix, so make sure you back up what you want to keep.

-Jerry

Posted by: crabbon

I will copy off "24" onto VCR (or, I'll just catchup on watching all the eps) and then do the manf diags, and then redo the upgrade (I still have the original 30gb hard drive that came with it, that worked great).

Now, I'm going to have to go hunting for directions on how to do this again. The last time, it took me several trial and errors before I got it right.

Corey

Posted by: jerrymc

Oh yeah! 24 is a must keep. I just bought the season 1 dvd set since I just starteed watching it this season. Intense!

Posted by: ichiroboston

I had a similar problem with my Maxtor HD's
Drive A had bad blocks on it... ran the diag problem (maxtor's) and "fixed" the bad blocks (re-mapped it)

Put it back into the TIVO... GSOD (expected because of lost data). figured, let it run overnight to have it try to restore the missing files... (after doing the swap space fix) You never know, maybe the bad blocks were in the "swap" or Live recording space... not your actual recorded video space.
Next morning! WORKING TIVO!

It has been running for a few days now with NO problems and the menus are running faster now :)
And nothing was lost.

Try that before doing a full delete...etc

Ichiro

Posted by: crabbon

Same here, I bought the season 1 DVD as well. I haven't started watching, cause I know I will be a zombee in two to three days (24 takes your sleep away).

I also have Enterprise on there (been watching them from the beginning in Chronilogical order). Won't want to loose those ones.

And I probably have a few others....

Maybe I shouldn't have waited a year... :)

Corey

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