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10-30-2003 02:31 AM

choccy
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TC HTML with Mozilla Firebird

As discussed in this thread, TC is serving different code to Mozilla Firebird (and presumeably Mozilla itself) than it does to Internet Explorer.

The most noticeable thing is the width of the input boxes. The code sent to IE shows a box much wider than the code sent to Mozilla/FB.

Any chance of getting this fixed?

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10-30-2003 03:11 AM

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That's funny. I never, ever, noticed that. I don't think it's a big deal.

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10-30-2003 03:34 AM

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Fixed...Nope, sorry. Issue is with the active codes and how the browser decides to display it.

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10-30-2003 06:54 AM

choccy
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It's not a display issue, it's a code being sent issue.

If I make my browser/user agent and pretend to be IE, I get different code back, and it renders exactly the same on screen.

Looking at the quick reply box (for example). With Mozilla, I get this HTML code back:

code:
<textarea name="message" rows="7" cols="50" wrap="virtual" tabindex="1"></textarea>

But, with IE, and with Mozilla and the IE user agent, I get this back from TC:

code:
<textarea name="message" rows="7" cols="80" wrap="virtual" tabindex="1"></textarea>

Clearly, TC is sending different HTML depending on the browser's user agent, and when Mozilla is detected, it's building an input box only 50 characters wide, instead of 80.

See what I mean?

Oh, and it gets better.. with Lynx, I get:

code:
<textarea name="message" rows="7" cols="60" wrap="virtual" tabindex="1"></textarea>

Yep, 60 colums!

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10-30-2003 12:44 PM

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Ok, I missunderstood what you were referring to. I have now set them all to 80 chars. Hope this is what you need.

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10-30-2003 02:19 PM

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Wow. How cool - it looks better in Safari too!

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10-30-2003 03:36 PM

Trent Bates
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Thanks David! I'm sure that many of us appreciate your prompt attention to this!

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10-30-2003 04:52 PM

choccy
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Excellent!

Yes, that appears to have fixed it.. thanks

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10-30-2003 04:59 PM

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Thanks from me, too!

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10-30-2003 05:04 PM

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10-30-2003 09:59 PM

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The change means very little to me one way or the other (I never had a problem with the old layout, and I don't have much of one with the new one, although I would prefer it not scroll out of the browser window). But just out of curiosity, is it possible to code the box to simply fit the available space, instead of hard-coding the width?

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10-31-2003 01:07 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Medieval Guy
But just out of curiosity, is it possible to code the box to simply fit the available space, instead of hard-coding the width?

In the major browsers, yes it is, but it's a bit harder than you might think. First, the way this site is coded uses tables extensively for layout, so you wind up dealing with tables within tables within tables � which makes such a change harder. Second, my recollection is that some versions of IE have a bug causing textareas to be off by a few pixels (try to make it fit all the available space and it could stick out of the right-side bounds a bit) with the straightforward, CSS, non-DHTML way of doing this.

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11-02-2003 04:23 PM

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Thanks from here as well. I assumed it was a Firebird problem and so I'd learned to live with it.

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11-03-2003 03:16 PM

walters
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Hey, how about some props to the guy who diagnosed the problem? And I don't even use Firebird

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11-03-2003 03:28 PM

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Who was that??? (Just kidding Walters!) Thanks to you too!

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