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DreadPirateRob is offline Old Post 06-23-2004 01:03 PM
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What was up with all the Mandalay Bay shots and mentions? If I were the new owners of the Nug, I'd be a little bitter at the free promotion that Mandalay was getting.

Otherwise, I'd pretty much echo the rest of the comments. Very scripted, yet oddly entertaining. It's hanging on, but by a thread.

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Never seen American Casino - wonder what i'm missing out on...

Oh well, I setup a SP for it last night so I'll check it out and compare...

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I think the fact that this show is set in Vegas is about the only thing keeping it alive. The lighting and camera shots give it the look and feel of a scripted show, which takes away from any "reality" aspect that might otherwise be there. The people always seem to be performing. The grand entrances when the people arrive at the casino, the couple who went out with the swingers obviously knew what was up when the wife came over to their table, etc.

I haven't cancelled it yet, but it needs to get better, especially if I check out American Casino and that one is better.

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quote:
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I like American Casino better as well.

The Casino is funny, because around 90% of the shots are of the strip, and all the beautiful hotels, and then they do a zip over to the drab Golden Nugget



They're doing similiar things with American Casino as well. We're seeing mostly shots of the Vegas Strip, yet the actual casino is in Henderson, pretty far off the strip.

And I agree with many others, American Casino is the superior show, although the 2 are blending together for me. During a kitchen shot on the Fox show, I was wondering when the bald head chef would come in screaming at someone.

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Originally posted by DreadPirateRob
What was up with all the Mandalay Bay shots and mentions? If I were the new owners of the Nug, I'd be a little bitter at the free promotion that Mandalay was getting.

Otherwise, I'd pretty much echo the rest of the comments. Very scripted, yet oddly entertaining. It's hanging on, but by a thread.



Well in that episode the high roller usually stayed at Mandalay, so they kept on doing that shot.

It certainly doesn't help the nugget to compare it to Mandalay.

Half the fun of Vegas is all the cool buildings and lights, and the Nugget isn't going to look great in comparison.

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I think it is totally scripted!!

I also doubt very much the owner of a casino is walking his own dog. OTOH, why is he bringing his dog to work?





is there any chance he lives there? I don't remember if they showed us their houses. heck if I owned the place, I'd live there LOL

And isn't it true they really don't own it totally? I thought they put up 50 out of 215 million and a few other corps put up too.

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My problem with the show, besides the obvious staging of it, is the bad acting.

I don't really give actors much respect for their craft. But when you watch the owners try to "Act" in this reality show it makes me cringe. They make Rocco Dispirito look like a Master Thespian.

It is painfully obvious that so much of this is contrived, and it is annoying. I think there could actually be an interesting show there... but probably just cable-tastic and not network primetime ratings draw.

When you watch reality shows that follow people around and who aren't pandering to the camera, The Osbournes are fairly good at this, as are some other shows, you can still have some entertaining times.

I just think the production team has no stomach for the risk involved in waiting for the story to come to them so they just manufacture it.

I will probably keep my season pass a bit longer, but it is fairly hard to watch at this point.

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I'm not sure it's scripted, but rather re-staged after the fact...

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Well in that episode the high roller usually stayed at Mandalay, so they kept on doing that shot.

It certainly doesn't help the nugget to compare it to Mandalay.

Half the fun of Vegas is all the cool buildings and lights, and the Nugget isn't going to look great in comparison.

-smak-



There is a lot of truth to this, but for a guy that really like to gamble, higher odds and higher maximums at the craps tables can draw him to a place like the Golden Nugget.

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oh.....and what Casino would let that happen? There is no way that they would let anybody scoop up $25k while a player has his back turned even if it is his girlfriend.

I just watched this episode and that was definitely a problem for me as well. No chance would they let ANYONE take money from another players "stash" (which I am not sure why he hauled cash around when they could have done it on "paper") and stick it in her purse. I doubt a wife could get away with taking a chip at a $25 table much less $25K in cash when he is not even there.

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I assumed the money was just for looks. They also won't let you have money on the table as well. You can play a hand for money but you can't have money just laying on the table.

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I assumed the money was just for looks. They also won't let you have money on the table as well. You can play a hand for money but you can't have money just laying on the table.


That actually depends on where you play. I haven't played at the Golden Nuggest in years, but I have played at numerous casinos on the strip. In playing poker (again depending on the casino) you play with chips, but you are allowed to have paper money in front of you. If you do have it on the table, however, it is considered money you entered the game with and you will need to use it if you go "all in".

Casinos each make up their own rules for paper money on the tables.

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I've seen it done differently. Sometimes you see somebody walk up and bet $100 in Blackjack.

Some places will put the hundred in the betting circle, and some will give you a $100 chip.

But yah, her taking that money from him was ridiculous. It just confirms the phoniness.

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There is a lot of truth to this, but for a guy that really like to gamble, higher odds and higher maximums at the craps tables can draw him to a place like the Golden Nugget.


You are right, but i was talking about for the audience.

Golden Nugget gets a free 1 hour plug every week, and then they gotta go and show them compared to all the other newer casinos.

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Did anyone else feel that the head swinger guy (with the white hair) was the Devil himself? Creepy.

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