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CraigEagle is offline Old Post 05-10-2004 02:19 PM
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Sopranos 5/9 (Spoilers)

Starting the thread.

Eh. So many stories they coulod have gone with and we need to see Uncle Pat's Farm.
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A really good episode.

I enjoyed the "soccer rage" and the ensuing news footage. The clip of Janice getting tackled by the cop was priceless.

"Revenge is like cold cuts."

I like the dynamic between the Tonys and Chrissie, although it looks like Tony B's time is running short.

The tension between NY & NJ is starting to reach a breaking point.

Sad to see only 3 episodes left, seems like we just got started.


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What was the deal with the slow motion to freeze of Carmella, followed by a wipe that I've never seen on Sopranos? I'm guessing that was an attempt to drive a point home, but I missed the point. Right after she told the principal (?) she was going back with Tony.

I also like Janice's anger management session. Christopher was impressive tonight, as well. Nicely done, I thought.

I am getting tired of the horribly misleading previews for each week's episode, though. I thought somebody was getting killed or something equally exciting would happen this week, only to be let down. Finn and Meadow's engagement barely gets a mention from Tony? Please.

BD

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What was the deal with the slow motion to freeze of Carmella, followed by a wipe that I've never seen on Sopranos? I'm guessing that was an attempt to drive a point home, but I missed the point. Right after she told the principal (?) she was going back with Tony.


That was very strange.

I loved the last scene with Tony egging Janice on because he can't stand anybody being happy if he isn't.

That said.....please..please..please wrap up some of the story lines and give me a little action. I appreciate all the character development week after week, but I am sure ready for a "pay off" to it.

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Yeah, I'd agree, the last scene with Tony and Janice was pretty good though I felt bad for Janice. Tony is one unhappy SOB if you ask me. He couldn't stand to see not only Janice happ(ier) and thriving with her new independence (away from rage) but also Christopher's sobriety. Taunting him to drink at dinner with him and Tony B. Now I know they were just messing around with him like when they were kids, but it was spiteful and malice.

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What was the deal with the slow motion to freeze of Carmella, followed by a wipe that I've never seen on Sopranos? I'm guessing that was an attempt to drive a point home, but I missed the point. Right after she told the principal (?) she was going back with Tony.
I think that was to get at her "Holy mother of God what did I just say? Did I really mean that?" frame of mind...

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What was the deal with the slow motion to freeze of Carmella, followed by a wipe that I've never seen on Sopranos? I'm guessing that was an attempt to drive a point home, but I missed the point. Right after she told the principal (?) she was going back with Tony.

I also like Janice's anger management session. Christopher was impressive tonight, as well. Nicely done, I thought.

I am getting tired of the horribly misleading previews for each week's episode, though. I thought somebody was getting killed or something equally exciting would happen this week, only to be let down. Finn and Meadow's engagement barely gets a mention from Tony? Please.

BD



I forgot to look, but it's probably because someone new directed this episode. Different directors have different styles. It's just a thought.

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I'm glad to hear the slow motion Carm was intentional. I thought my TIVO messed up and I missed a reponse to that guy from Carm.

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Yeah, I'd agree, the last scene with Tony and Janice was pretty good though I felt bad for Janice. Tony is one unhappy SOB if you ask me. He couldn't stand to see not only Janice happ(ier) and thriving with her new independence (away from rage) ...


Beg to differ - as a Janice-hater from way back, I loved Tony proving that Janice's Mahatma Gandhi act was just a facade. Him doing it right in front of Bobby's kids just reminds us who we're dealing with in Tony, too.

But I wanted more of the Finn And Vito Show, and didn't get it.

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I thought this was an excellent episode. Big thumbs up. Too bad it took ten episodes to get two good ones in a row.

For me the season breaks down as 2 excellent episodes, 1 good episode, and 7 mediocre-at-best episodes.

Deadwood on the other hand... All thumbs up there.

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What was the deal with the slow motion to freeze of Carmella, followed by a wipe that I've never seen on Sopranos? I'm guessing that was an attempt to drive a point home, but I missed the point.


That looked very amateurist, like something I used to do to video clips in high school AV class!

The rest of the episode was pretty boring. Except for last week, this season has not lived up to expectations.

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That looked very amateurist, like something I used to do to video clips in high school AV class!

The rest of the episode was pretty boring. Except for last week, this season has not lived up to expectations.



LOL it reminded me of a 1980's culture club video that you would see on MTV.
I am wondering if something will happen to Adrianna/Christufu. The actress who plays Adrianna is going to be a cast member on that new "Joey" Friend's spinoff show. Or perhaps the actress is smart and realizes "Joey" will be cancelled by mid-October and she won't miss a beat with Sopranos filming.

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DeDondeEs, you reminded me of something great about last night... The look on Adriana's face when Christopher mentioned Tony B. was pulling down $200K from the casino.

Foreshadowing? Oh yeah.

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Yeah, the FBI is going to hear about Tony B., for sure.

I'm not convinced that Janice is going to revert to her old self immediately. I think she actually may have learned something -- a rarity for the characters on this show! She lashed out at Tony, but only because he pushed her buttons.

OTOH, now that I know she lives in my town (Verona, N.J.), I'm going to have to keep an eye out so I don't cross paths with her.

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DeDondeEs, you reminded me of something great about last night... The look on Adriana's face when Christopher mentioned Tony B. was pulling down $200K from the casino.

Foreshadowing? Oh yeah.



yeah, my first thought was that she was going to run to the FBI chick and start spilling about TonyB and get him sent back to prison.

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Beg to differ - as a Janice-hater from way back, I loved Tony proving that Janice's Mahatma Gandhi act was just a facade. Him doing it right in front of Bobby's kids just reminds us who we're dealing with in Tony, too.

But I wanted more of the Finn And Vito Show, and didn't get it.




You may beg to differ ( and I never claimed to be a fan of Janice) BUT it's overwhelmingly noticeable that while Janice may have a facade up about managing her anger, that's not Tony's position to call her out in front of the children and especially in the manner he did (discussing her biological son). Yes, we're dealing with Tony and the mobster persona was definitely visible but that doesn't change the fact that he IS absolutely miserable! He can't stand to see anyone around him happy or content. No?

But I do agree with you about the Finn/Vito situation. I would have liked to see that continue last night and less of the uncle in upstate NY.

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Yeah, I'd agree, the last scene with Tony and Janice was pretty good though I felt bad for Janice. Tony is one unhappy SOB if you ask me. He couldn't stand to see not only Janice happ(ier) and thriving with her new independence (away from rage) but also Christopher's sobriety.


You've hit on something here, but I think there's even more to it.

Tony is wrestling with his own anger management issues (e.g., his petulant attack on the bartender ... which he sheepishly realized later was a gross overreaction), but it's human nature to resist taking on the hard work and lifestyle changes required to deal with those issues. (Not dissimilar to an alcoholic making a decision to enter a 12 step program.)

Psychologically, if he can undermine Janice's "success" in her anger management program, he can go on with the notion that it's all just psychobabble and doesn't really work, and therefore *he* doesn't need to do any anger management counseling. His mocking of Christopher's efforts to stay sober ties in with that - he's uncomfortable with people who are doing the hard work required to keep themselves right.

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Is it just me, or do they seem to be setting Tony S up as a loner -- maybe they wack him in the last episode.

Lets see -- he has no true friends, just sycophants. No wife or family life. Anger management issues. Panic attacks. Problems with at least one other family. Man I'd be depressed too. Of course that is just rage turned inward.

The previews for next week have the all telling gunshots??? by the white haired cadillac driver. Who the heck is he wacking?

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The previews for next week have the all telling gunshots??? by the white haired cadillac driver. Who the heck is he wacking?


Though likely not the case this time that certainly doesn't mean jack. We had that earlier this year with Christopher and it turned out the only thing he whacked was Tony's spare Suburban.

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Though likely not the case this time that certainly doesn't mean jack. We had that earlier this year with Christopher and it turned out the only thing he whacked was Tony's spare Suburban.


Yeah that is what I meant by the "all telling." But these are the last three so its probably an animate object. Unless he's shooting the caddy or the woman who was supposed to "fix" the caddy.

Don't they have to bring the NY/NJ thing to a head?

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