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All I can say is:

(1) Bad decision about Madison, Andy. Bad BAD decision. This will come back and bite you on the ass, but good.

(2) Poor Amy and Ephram. Even when they catch a break, they can't catch a break. Oh, wait, they caught a break. But they really haven't. I wish my head would stop spinning.

(3) What's wrong with a good bagel shop? Even people in Colorado have heard of them. Although Harold might have gone a bit overboard with the 37 different flavors on the first day.

(4) Saw THAT job offer a mile away.

We'll have to see how this all shakes out next fall.

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Couldn't agree more with point #1. I'm actually surprised that madison didn't show up at the bus station to talk to Ephram. I can't believe she even listened to Andy.....How can she make that decision without talking to him? that is unfair to both kids....

And why don't Coloradians like bagels?

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Why do they call bacon ham?

What a great finale. I would also agree. Andy made a very poor, emotionally driven decision.

Can't wait for next season.

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Sorry Gray I missed your thread. I am not used to having an Everwood thread start so quickly. From mine:

Not the best season finale, but there is no way we could have gone through what we did last year. In saying that I do miss Colin, he seemed to be a great guy.

The sure did get a bagel shop opened very quickly, never seen anything happen that fast in my life.

It was and is a mistake not to tell Eprham about Madison. Dr. Brown is really showing you what kind of guy he is when he tells her to "go away" and he will send her money for the rest of her life. Amazing.

Amy and Ephram together in NY for a week un-supervised? Where is he staying? Where is she staying? Didn't she say her mother drover her to the airport?

Towards the end with Bright and Delia was great.

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Yeah, I thought that last bit with Bright and Delia was a hoot. Don't forget, she (and some of her friends) have a crush on him.

I also was a bit taken aback by Amy's being able to accompany Ephram to NYC unsupervised. Perhaps the first episode of next season will be Dr. Abbott laying waste to Manhattan as he searches for them.

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Dr. Abbott paid for the plane ticket so I doubt he is going to be upset.

Personally, I think this entire episode had everyone out of character.

Dr. Abbott has completely forgotten not only what Andy did to him regarding the whole Amy/birth-control thing but also for dumping his sister.

Ephram said NO!?! to Amy's asking him to stay?

Andy allows Ephram to have a relationship with a girl 4 years his senior(WTG EHPRAM!) but doesn't allow Madison to tell him of it's consequences?

I also have a theory. I think Madison is still in love with Ephram. I think she may have gotten herself pregnant by someone else in order to get him back.

Well, maybe not. It seems an awful stupid thing to do all things considered. But still, smarter girls have done dumber things to get their man back.

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Dr. Abbott paid for the plane ticket? Really? They said that? I missed that.

Maybe they're ALL pod people now!

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Yeah, Amy said something about having to wash her dad's car a bunch of times to pay for it.

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I agree that this episode felt a little strange, but I LOVED the scene with Harry and Andy in the Bagel Shoppe.

I don't care much for Treat Williams but love Tom Amandes and thought he did a great job switching over to a concerned person from the antagonistic relationship they have. He really does this show good.

I think it's supposed to be clear that Andy is making a mistake with Madison. He's feeling supremely responsible for what's happened and is making a very knee jerk reaction and trying to control everything.

It clearly will come back and get him in trouble.

When Amy was on the plane I looked over at my wife and asked her if we were going to let our 16 year old daughter go to New York for 10 days for a boy.

She laughed.

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Yes, Ephram will find out that his father kept the baby news from him, and yes, Ephram will be angry about it.

But I am not so sure that Andy's move was the wrong one. Ephram is not going to marry the girl this summer, no matter what. But he would spend a lot of time talking about it and would miss out on his music school.

Deal with the fall-out later. I think Andy did the right thing.

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Yes, Ephram will find out that his father kept the baby news from him, and yes, Ephram will be angry about it.

But I am not so sure that Andy's move was the wrong one. Ephram is not going to marry the girl this summer, no matter what. But he would spend a lot of time talking about it and would miss out on his music school.

Deal with the fall-out later. I think Andy did the right thing.

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Yeah, Amy said something about having to wash her dad's car a bunch of times to pay for it.

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If he would have told her to wait until then end of summer when he returns, that would be OK. But telling her to leave and he will support her and the baby is just plain wrong.

Bryanmc I am right there with you on Tom Amandes. He needs to be nominated for a supporting Emmy for his work on this show.

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If he would have told her to wait until then end of summer when he returns, that would be OK.

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Amy better not come back from NYC pregnant.

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Amy better not come back from NYC pregnant.

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I think it's supposed to be clear that Andy is making a mistake with Madison. He's feeling supremely responsible for what's happened and is making a very knee jerk reaction and trying to control everything.

It clearly will come back and get him in trouble.

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I agree completely; we are supposed to be cringing at his decision because it is so obviously wrong (and immoral at that). It's too bad for Ephram and Amy that this is the case. It will obviously cause problems for them in the future when it comes out. Dang, they never catch a break

I loved how Deliah and Bright ended up heading off to the movies together. They have both lost their best friend for a while. I'll bet she is wishing she were just a few years older

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Amy and Ephram together in NY for a week un-supervised? Where is he staying? Where is she staying? Didn't she say her mother drover her to the airport?

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So how will Dr. A make money working with Dr. B? Will they have to start charging customers? I have no problem with this. Maybe next ep should start with Dr. B saying "Man I was such a dumass. I lost $2M already giving out free medical service."

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So how will Dr. A make money working with Dr. B? Will they have to start charging customers? I have no problem with this. Maybe next ep should start with Dr. B saying "Man I was such a dumass. I lost $2M already giving out free medical service."

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