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brief history: 2 160 gigs put in earlier this year; A drive died; got advance replacement from WD because it threw an error code and tried copying the A drive to the replacement. Because of bad sectors being transferred to the new A drive, I lost some programs, that's fine. I stopped the copying midway through because of time restrictions. At this point I don't care about lost programs, I'm more concerned with the status of the drive. I have a new problem I'm wondering about.

Some of the programs don't play, they just give me the delete screen. So I delete them. But I went to a known corrupted program (remained on from the first attempt at copying the new A drive) and when I played the program, it caused the tivo to reboot. So now I'm wondering if both drives pass diagnostics, and I delete the programs that cause a reboot, will the drive then be OK? or will the drive remain with errors until I run extended diags?

Or should I use the western digital drive install software, format everything, then just use my original tivo drive and 'add' the 2 drives totally fresh and formatted? And if I do that, will it guarantee me not to have the reboot in the same places as before. (assuming that formatting clears up any errors on the drive???)

The other thing I"m wondering is could the B drive be bad even though it passes diagnostics?

thanks for taking the time to read through this. I'm really at wits end here. I'll go thru and lose my remaining programs if there's a guarantee that the newly formatting drives won't give me errors. But if there's no guarantee, I may as well just sputter along with them as is.

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I have found that that a drive which clearly causes errors on a TiVo will pass the manufacturer diagnostics.

Formatting really makes no difference, but it is useful to run the manufacturer's "destructive write/read" test that will detect and remap bad blocks.

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I have found that that a drive which clearly causes errors on a TiVo will pass the manufacturer diagnostics.

Formatting really makes no difference, but it is useful to run the manufacturer's "destructive write/read" test that will detect and remap bad blocks.

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ran extended diags on the old b drive and the new A drive. it STILL reboots on that bad program and while I don't care about the program itself, I sure hope after it deletes that that sector is never used again!

There was no report at the end of the diags telling me anything except they passed. I was hoping for a bit more.

I'm curious, when I try to play some stuff, it just makes me delete it and says error playing recording, not able to record because there is no video signal on the channel. Is that their way of saying it's not recorded anymore?

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The manufacturer diags pick up only the most serious kinds of hard failures.

The symptom you describe can happen if the media file corresponding to the Now Showing entry is missing or corrupted.

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welp I deleted all the bad programs. Now to start filling up the HD again The first reboot and I'll cry

50 or so progams still work...or at least they did when I hit play for a minute

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I would imagine that the file was corrupted in such a way as to cause a reboot - and you have copied that corruption from your old drive.

If the diags say your new drive is OK then it probably is. What's the chance of a new error occuring on the new drive in the same place as the old error on the old drive?

Just delete the recording and stop worrying about it

Edit: I didn't realise my powers of sugestion were so strong!

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I've had to run the extended test on a Maxtor drive ten times to get the error code. Keep doing it; it'll probably show up.

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I would imagine that the file was corrupted in such a way as to cause a reboot - and you have copied that corruption from your old drive.

If the diags say your new drive is OK then it probably is. What's the chance of a new error occuring on the new drive in the same place as the old error on the old drive?

Just delete the recording and stop worrying about it

Edit: I didn't realise my powers of sugestion were so strong!

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I think you should be able to safely assume that.

Assuming your new drive is OK then once you delete a corrupt recording the space will be reused. The corruption will have been in the recording, not the space, so you not see any new corruption.

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Originally posted by blindlemon
I think you should be able to safely assume that.

Assuming your new drive is OK then once you delete a corrupt recording the space will be reused. The corruption will have been in the recording, not the space, so you not see any new corruption.

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