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TV Guide's 50 Best Shows of All Time

TV Guide Names 'Seinfeld' Greatest Show of All


April 26, 2002 2:59 pm EST

By Steve Gorman
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - It was facetiously billed as the "show about nothing," but the editors of TV Guide rank the NBC smash comedy hit "Seinfeld" as the greatest television show of all time.

The 1990s show starring comedian Jerry Seinfeld as a New York comedian hanging out with three of his pals -- Elaine, George and Kramer -- topped TV Guide's list of the 50 most entertaining or influential television series in American pop culture.

The list, appearing in next week's issue, will get the countdown treatment in an ABC special on May 13, "TV Guide's 50 Best Shows of All Time," part of the magazine's celebration of its golden anniversary.

The 50 entries, chosen and ranked by TV Guide editors, consist of regularly scheduled series spanning more than a half century of television, going as far back as NBC's pioneering live comedy/variety program, "Your Show of Shows."

That show, which debuted in 1950 starring Sid Caesar and Imogene Coca, was ranked No. 30.

TV movies, miniseries and specials were not eligible.


Prime time accounts for most of the shows, though a few daytime programs made the list -- NBC's "Today" (No. 17) and the syndicated talk shows "Donahue" (No. 29) and "The Oprah Winfrey Show" (No. 49).

On the late-night front, the CBS "Late Show with David Letterman" got the highest ranking, at No. 7, beating out even NBC's "The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson" (No. 12). Letterman's arch rival -- and Carson's successor -- Jay Leno, failed to make the cut. ABC's "Nightline" ranked 23rd.

NBC dominated the list with 17 shows, which, besides "Seinfeld," ranged from "Saturday Night Live" at No. 10 to the Judd Hirsch sitcom "Taxi," which also aired on ABC, at No. 48.

CBS made the list with 16 shows, led by "I Love Lucy" at No. 2, and boasted five other programs in the top 10, including "The Honeymooners" (No. 3), "All in the Family" (No. 4), "60 Minutes" (No. 6) and "The Andy Griffith Show" (No. 9).

A total of eight ABC shows made the list, led by the late-1980s, early '90s drama "thirtysomething, while Fox had two entries -- animated sitcom satire "The Simpsons" at No. 8 and sci-fi thriller "The X-Files" at No. 37.

The only other cartoon series to make the list was ABC's "Rocky and His Friends" at No. 47.

Cable television was represented by just two shows -- mob drama "The Sopranos" at No. 5 and Garry Shandling's "The Larry Sanders Show" at No. 38, both on HBO.

Public TV also had two series on the list -- the landmark children's program "Sesame Street" (No. 27) and the pioneering 1973 "reality" series "An American Family" (No. 32).

Modern-day reality hit "Survivor" was snubbed, as were all game shows. Not even "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire" made the list.

The fledgling networks the WB and UPN had to settle for one shared entry, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," which has aired on both outlets.

The following is the complete list:

1. Seinfeld (NBC)

2. I Love Lucy (CBS)

3. The Honeymooners (CBS)

4. All in the Family (CBS)

5. The Sopranos (HBO)

6. 60 Minutes (CBS)

7. Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)

8. The Simpsons (Fox)

9. The Andy Griffith Show (CBS)

10. Saturday Night Live (NBC)

11. The Mary Tyler Moore Show (CBS)

12. The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson (NBC)

13. The Dick Van Dyke Show (CBS)

14. Hill Street Blues (NBC)

15. The Ed Sullivan Show (CBS)

16. The Carol Burnett Show (CBS)

17. Today (NBC)

18. Cheers (NBC)

19. thirtysomething (ABC)

20. St. Elsewhere (NBC)

21. Friends (NBC)

22. ER (NBC

23. Nightline (ABC)

24. Law & Order (NBC)

25. M+A+S+H (CBS)

26. The Twilight Zone (CBS)

27. Sesame Street (PBS)

28. The Cosby Show (NBC)

29. Donahue (syndicated)

30. You Show of Shows (NBC)

31. The Defenders (CBS)

32. An American Family (PBS)

33. Playhouse 90 (CBS)

34. Frasier (NBC)

35. Roseanne (ABC)

36. The Fugitive (ABC)

37. The X-Files (Fox)

38. The Larry Sanders Show (HBO)

39. The Rockford Files (NBC)

40. Gunsmoke (CBS)

41. Buffy the Vampire Slayer (WB/UPN)

42. Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In (NBC)

43. Bonanza (NBC)

44. The Bob Newhart Show (CBS)

45. Twin Peaks (ABC)

46. Star Trek: The Next Generation (syndicated)

47. Rocky and His Friends (ABC)

48. Taxi (ABC/NBC)

49. The Oprah Winfrey Show (syndicated)

50. Bewitched (ABC)

What a crock! Now how could they say that Seinfeld is better than I Love Lucy or All in the Family? And David Letterman was more influential than Johnny Carson? And Rocky and his Friends beat out The Flintstones? What were these editors thinking? Chris

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No Dr. Who?

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Seinfeld was an ugly show about a bunch of ugly people. And I'm not talking about their looks. I think the finale summed it up. These were a bunch of self-absorbed losers.

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60 Minutes at #6? It shouldn't even be #1006! Since when does unprofessional, sensational, pick a side to report and slam the other reporting qualify as great TV?

There are Senators who are less biased than your typical 60 Minutes report.

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#47 Rocky and His Friends:? Never heard of it.

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Rocky & Bullwinkle. Rocky was initially the lead guy (girl?), but that big goof Bullwinkle won the hearts of viewers everywhere. Most people will probably recognize Bullwinkle before Rocky. Chris

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#47 Rocky and His Friends:? Never heard of it.


I assume that's Rocky & Bullwinkle, but I don't recall the show being called that back in the day. So maybe the #47 is a collection of re-run cartoons!

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I think it was originally called Rocky & his friends and then they renamed it the Rocky & Bullwinkle Show (?) when it was in syndication. Chris

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I think it was originally called Rocky & his friends and then they renamed it the Rocky & Bullwinkle Show (?) when it was in syndication. Chris


I thought it might be that, but I didn't think it could possibly have made the top 50 list.

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Not so sure about an HBO series.(The Sopranos) Its not network TV. Its not even broadcast. Its not even basic cable.

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Here we go, courtesy of IMDB:

Bullwinkle Show, The" (1961)
[TV-Series: 1961-1973]

Also Known As:
"Adventures of Bullwinkle and Rocky" (1961)
"Rocky and His Friends" (1961)

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Did Rocky have Sherman Peabody as part of the same show?

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Not so sure about an HBO series.(The Sopranos) Its not network TV.


Yeah. Talk about an unfair comparision! ;-)

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Did Rocky have Sherman Peabody as part of the same show?

Yes!

Courtesy of IMDB:


Cast (in credits order) verified as complete
Bill Scott (I) .... Bullwinkle/Dudley Doright/Mr. Peabody (voice)
June Foray .... Rocket 'Rocky' J. Squirrel/Natasha Fatale/Nell Fenwick (voice)
Paul Frees .... Boris Badenov/Captain Peachfuzz/Cloyd/Inspector Fenwick (voice)
Hans Conried .... Snidley Whiplash (voice)
Charles Ruggles .... Aesop (voice)
Walter Tetley .... Sherman (voice)
Edward Everett Horton .... Narrator (segment "Fractured Fairy Tales") (voice)
rest of cast listed alphabetically
Julie Bennett .... Additional Voices (voice)
Daws Butler .... Aesop Jr. (uncredited) (voice)
William Conrad .... Narrator (1961-73) (voice)
Dorothy Scott (I) .... Additional Voices (uncredited) (voice)

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quote:
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Not so sure about an HBO series.(The Sopranos) Its not network TV. Its not even broadcast. Its not even basic cable.


It's not TV. It's HBO.

(That's even their tagline!)

At first glance, the list looks great. ehopper, sorry, gotta disagree, Seinfeld was classic TV. Karyk, I agree 60 minutes needs to be lower.

The Practice would be nice to be on there, but I didn't expect it. 24 is too new to put on there. The Incredible Hulk should have made it. Bewitched surprised me.. I liked it as a kid, but..

I guess Columbo didn't count because they were movies.. No Quantum Leap?

Dave is king. Damned right that he beat Carson, and damned right that Leno didn't even make the cut. (I'll bet Conan should be around #51 though.. "For Christ's Sake Conan, let the bear masturbate!")

Good list.

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Columbo was part of a rotating series along with McMillan & Wife & McCloud, so they were considered as a regular series, just not every week.

Chris

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That's Sherman AND Mr. Peabody, with the Way Back Machine.

Seinfeld? SEINFELD?! Are they INSANE? "I Love Lucy" and "All in the Family" were far more ground-breaking.

The judges must be the kind of people who consider Snoop Doggy Dog more influential than, oh, the Beatles.

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The judges must be the kind of people who consider Snoop Doggy Dog more influential than, oh, the Beatles.


Oooooh the horror!

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I thought Rocky and Friends was better than the Flintstones, but I would say the Flintstones had a bigger influence on TV animation.
The Defenders is mentioned, but not Perry Mason?
Alfred Hitchcock Presents deserves a mention.

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I tried, I really tried but I was never able to sit through a single Seinfeld episode. Did I say I tried?

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