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I am looking for a piece of software to record internet radio. I want to be able to schedule recordings on different internet radio stations whilst at work etc. Bit like a TiVo for Internet Radio.

Ideally freeware, but would pay for it. Can't find any, anyone use one?

Ta,


Alex

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I am looking for a piece of software to record internet radio. I want to be able to schedule recordings on different internet radio stations whilst at work etc. Bit like a TiVo for Internet Radio.

Ideally freeware, but would pay for it. Can't find any, anyone use one?

Ta,


Alex

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Yeah, I've done that, trouble is the TiVo is busy enough recording TV! Too many clashes.

I haven't found a piece of software yet, I use WinAmp to listen to various Internet Radio stations, and I notice that has an API accessible to Win32, so I can feel a programming exercise coming on.

Can't believe no one else has done this already, though...

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GIYF

http://www.replay-radio.com/

It has been mentioned on these forums before.

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GIYF?

Not heard that one before

Replay radio doesn't appear to cope with Real or WMA formats, just streamed MP3 internet stations, unless I am missing something..

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GIYF? Not heard that one before
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Replay radio doesn't appear to cope with Real or WMA formats, just streamed MP3 internet stations, unless I am missing something..
Sorry. No idea. I just found the site for you. Didn't read anything about the product

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The best utility I found for that is Total Recorder.

Worth buying.

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Stephen,

Thanks for that, I've seen Total Recorder, but from what I can see that just copes with streamed Mp3 format internet radio sites, not real or WMA format. The problem is I listen to stations on all 3, and particularly real. I need something that will cope with all 3 formats and so far that doesn't seem to exist...

The program in question would need to be able to launch RealPlayer, Windows Media or something that supports MP3 (e.g. WinAmp) on demand, and 'tune' it to a station, and then start to record the stream, and I can't find anything to do this, which is why I am starting to get convinced I'll need to write it

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Yes it does, as does RipCast which someone else told me about. Both look cool, but won't work with, for example, BBC streamed stations as they are all REAL formats

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Total Recorder sets up a virtual audio playback devices on your PC. All the sounds are played through that. Whatever is being played gets recorded. There is more than one version of Total Recorder.

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OK, so that's closer, but I still can't tell TR to start up Real Player, 'tune' to BBC7, and then record, or can i?

I think I need to write the program that does the scheduling/automation, and am looking into that.

Real Player, WinAmp and WMP all have API's, so starting them up and controlling them should be easy, it's just a question of how to record the stream. I'm looking at various ways of doing that. Of course if Total Record Pro could be automated from code, I could use that, otherwise it might be .NET for me

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You did say there were too many clashes. Note that BBC7 has just gone 24-hours, so there are a lot more chances to "get" a series you want with repeats in the middle of the night. See if the listings are any better for you now? It's easiest to use a Season Pass on TiVo if you can.

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Yes, that's true, but I like the idea of something that copes with Real Formats, WMA and MP3 stream.

Also, many stations are not available through TiVo...

Will report back as to how I get on writing it...

Alex

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Replay Radio will pick up WMA streams for BBC channels (couldn't get the Real stream to work, though I think my Real-one installation is buggered) if you use the "URL finder" tool. Just add the url of the main page of BBC Radio7 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/) in the top then click on "Windows Media" from that page to bring the pop-up stream page and then you can find out the right url (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/bbc7.shtml by the way) and stick this in your schedule options. I now have daily Radio4 and Radio7 recordings as well as a couple of the American preset options (now thats a great idea!).
I've just purchased this program (ver. 4.03) after using Cybercord 2000 and a Usb radio source for the last few months; much more versatile! I did have problems when it converted the Wav files into Mp3's but choosing the "sound card" as recording source solved that.
Anyway hope this info made some sense
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Thanks, may try that.

Had a go at prototyping a proof of concept for my own design, I can automate control of Windows Media Player, Real Player and WinAmp through their APIs/SDKs giving me the ability to start each up and 'tune' in to WMA, Real or MP3 streams, but the bit I am struggling on is actually doing the recording.

My preferred development environment is the .NET framework, but there are no .NET classes to support recording per se, so I'd be into low level Win32 APIs.

If anyone knows how to do this, that would be v. helpful!

I know i can do the scheduling code, initiate the radio plays, it's just the recording, really.

Alternatively, if anyone knows of a program like Replay Radio, Total Recorder etc that has an API so that I can automate that and make that do the recording, then that's another solution?

TIA,

Alex

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The Media Recorder, coming soon from UKRadioSite.co.uk sounds like it will do exactly what you want - still vapourware though.

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Hmm, looks interesting, tho' as you say, still v-ware.

It does say "works with any windows media stream" and "requires WMP 9" which might imply it will only record WMA format, not real or MP3, but we'll see when it's released.

Will hold off on the coding unless someone can tell me how to do the recording!

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I've been using Netfor2.com's Windows Media Recorder for short bits of an asf stream. I'm going to try ASFRecorder from http://sourceforge.net/projects/asfrecorder next.

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Totalrecorder and Audiomagic both allow you to record ANY internet station as they convert sound card output to MP3. They both have video type controls where you can record at 1pm till 1:30pm. I also use my TiVO to record stuff, and then play it back through the PC later for converting to MP3.

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Totalrecorder and Audiomagic both allow you to record ANY internet station as they convert sound card output to MP3. They both have video type controls where you can record at 1pm till 1:30pm. I also use my TiVO to record stuff, and then play it back through the PC later for converting to MP3.

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