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Old Post 11-29-2001 07:16 PM
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Lightbulb I want TiVo for my car radio

I have gotten so used to TiVo that I find myself trying to "TiVo" other things.

Yesterday I got into my car and had some talk radio on. It was in the middle of what seemed like an interesting dicussion, so I reached for my stereo, as if to rewind. It was instinctual, but alas - my car stereo doesn't do that. *sigh*

It occurs to me that a TiVo-like device wouldn't be too hard to develop for the car, and might have a reasonable market.

Since it's only audio, you would need much less processing power and disk capacity.

It seems a full programming guide would be overkill for the limited number of radio stations most people have available, all that would be needed would be the ability to pick a time and date to record.

If you use MP3 for the digital encoding, you could dual-purpose the device as an MP3 storage and playback, with the added ability to record, pause, rewind live radio.

Am I nuts, or does this seem like a cool thing? I know I would buy one.

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Check out satellite radio:

XMRadio.com

SiriusRadio.com

100 commercial free digital channels of music, news and entertainment available coast to coast. No static, cd quality sound. Plus it shows the artist and song title on the radio screen.

Jeff

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Old Post 11-29-2001 07:20 PM
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Yes. A car CD-RW would be great and would probably sell as fast as the newest gaming system. But of course even though it would not cost much more to make or design than a regular car MP3 player, they would still charge 400 dollars more. A problem that may be hard to overcome is bumps in the road, either for a hard drive or cd.



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Old Post 11-29-2001 07:25 PM
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[B]Yes. A car CD-RW would be great and would probably sell as fast as the newest gaming system. But of course even though it would not cost much more to make or design than a regular car MP3 player, they would still charge 400 dollars more. A problem that may be hard to overcome is bumps in the road, either for a hard drive or cd.
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Good point about the bumpy ride - you could certainly manage the recording process by using a generous memory buffer, but not sure how a hard drive would hold up to the jouncing over time. Although laptop hard drives seem OK...

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Nice, but still doesn't let me pause, rewind, record, etc...

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Nice, but still doesn't let me pause, rewind, record, etc...


True, but there's so much good music that you won't need or want to ;-)

Trust me, you'll never go back to FM radio again.

Jeff

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True, but there's so much good music that you won't need or want to ;-)

Trust me, you'll never go back to FM radio again.

Jeff





Mostly I listen to talk radio in the car - which is where I think having TiVo like control would be most useful.

When I listen to music, it's always a CD - any time I don't get to choose what songs I hear when, I get cranky, no matter how many channels there might be to choose from.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dbezona:
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Mostly I listen to talk radio in the car - which is where I think having TiVo like control would be most useful.
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I agree. I'd love to Tivo Tab Computer on a Saturday morning. And just think, you could Tivo Bob Steele on his once a month show and listen any time you want.

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Originally posted by JivinJeff:
True, but there's so much good music that you won't need or want to ;-)
Trust me, you'll never go back to FM radio again.
Jeff




Interesting because I think this is the missing killer app of XM radio.

With digital downloads it seems that this is ripe for a radio version of DirectTiVo. Season passes to programs, musical genre based, news, talk radio, etc. Pause talk, sports or news when you get a phone call or have a "discussion" with the kids. Instant Replay for missed commentary. FF or skip over boring segments, songs you don't like, etc.

How long before SonicBlue puts this in a home based receiver with the ability to save content to a memory card to play on your portable or in yor car?

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With the prices of compactFlash cards down as low as they are now, I'm shocked someone hasn't already come up with a portable AM/FM radio that does this.

You could write a Windows app that let you program the recording times/durations and stored the file right on the CF card. Store the radio shows in MP3 format so they can be downloaded to your PC.

I'd spend $200 in a heartbeat on something like this.

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Hmmm - how about a "dock" for your car that would accept something like the iPOD or Nomad Jukebox. Just slide it into the head unit like a cartridge. The head unit could add a tuner and TiVo-style logic to the mix. The audio gets saved onto the iPOD or Jukebox, so you could listen to it anywhere and sync it up to your PC or whatever.

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Is this what you're looking for? http://www.gotuit.com/aindex.html


[edit] Isn't Gotuit the company who recently sued TiVo for patent infringement?
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Is this what you're looking for? http://www.gotuit.com/aindex.html





Gotuit is a company that takes an idea and then files patents for it. Once a *real* company spends the research money to create a working product and does all the innovating, they come along and sue the maker of the device for patent infrigement.

Jeff

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Gotuit sounds alot like Pause Technolgy
http://www.pausetechnology.com/news.html

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Gotuit is a company that takes an idea and then files patents for it. Once a *real* company spends the research money to create a working product and does all the innovating, they come along and sue the maker of the device for patent infrigement.



What led you to this conclusion?

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What led you to this conclusion?




Because they went after TiVo with their "Pause live tv" patent. They have no product, just a fluff patent.
http://www.gotuit.com/news1.html

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Too bad. Their radio non-product looks great.

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XMRadio are you listening?
From what I've heard the XM radios do a little buffering to continue the sound even if the satellite stream isn't continously received. I should think with a larger buffer they could pause and instant replay. With a larger memory capacity, more is available - perhaps using MiniDisc technology since Sony seems to be an investor.

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XMRadio are you listening?
From what I've heard the XM radios do a little buffering to continue the sound even if the satellite stream isn't continously received. I should think with a larger buffer they could pause and instant replay. With a larger memory capacity, more is available - perhaps using MiniDisc technology since Sony seems to be an investor.




You're correct, XM Satellite Radios have a 4 second memory buffer in case the satellite signal gets block under a highway underpass for instance.

Sony makes an XM Radio that has a USB port for future use. They could easily add an external hard drive or offer the ability to hook it up to your computer to save the audio feed. XM uses mpeg audio, it's a digital feed at 128kbps, some software program could be written to archive the audio and save it for playback. In fact XM is already partnered with MusicMatch, so it is highly likely that MusicMatch will design the interface for satellite radio recording.

Jeff

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Here's what the Sony unit looks like. The cool thing is that it's portable, you can dock in the car or in your home...
http://www.xmradio.com/musicmatch/musicmatch.html

Jeff

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