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Lightbulb HD TiVo or HD Rcvr+SA TiVo/DVDR?

Hi everyone. I am in a bit of a quandary and would appreciate anyoneís help.

I will soon be upgrading my bedroom setup to accommodate a new LCD HDTV (Sharp LC-26GA4U or LC-32G4UÖ probably the former because of space limitations) and would like to fully take advantage of it by changing out my DirecTiVo (DSR7000) for one of two new setups:

1) Buy an HD TiVo only (letís pretend that a $1000 purchase and the word only can be used in the same sentence.)
2) Buy a DirecTV HD Receiver (any equipment suggestions here?) and pair it with a SA TiVo unit (the Pioneer TiVo/DVD-R combo).

If I get #1, I wonít have enough money to get a DVD recorder (which is fine because I couldnít burn HD footage to a DVD anyways). However, I would have HDMI to connect to the new TV, which would be great, plus the core TiVo functions that I currently have perfectly and digitally paired with DirecTV.

If I go the second route, I would connect the component output (or DVI or HDMI output if available) of the HD Receiver directly to the TV for live HD viewing, and would connect a second output connection (S-Video, R/L audio) to the inputs on the SA TiVo unit (so that I could maintain TiVo functionality and burn DVDs of non-HD broadcasts.) Additionally with this arrangement, I could take full advantage of TiVoís Series2 features like Photo, Music sharing and Remote Scheduling (the latter I really, really, really want.)

Beyond giving me recommendations between these two options, I also have a few other questions for anyone feeling extra generousÖ

- The connections I have outlined in setup #2 can be done, right? That is, the HD receiver can output two connections simultaneously, allowing me to TiVo normally while also allowing me to watch live HD whenever I want (by changing the TVís input).
- As far as HD receivers go, does anyone have any recommendations on which model to choose for the #2 setup? To be specific, I would really like one with HDMI, yet canít find one in my research yetÖ anyone have any pre-release info?
- If I set the SA TiVo to always record at the highest quality setting, will I notice any downgrade in PQ between this #2 setup and my current DSR7000 (which obviously has no quality setting and always records at DirecTVís digital quality)?
- Does anyone have any information regarding DirecTVís future adoption of Series2 features in their TiVo units (or, for that matter, even upgrading to TiVoís latest software release for the SA units)? If DTV plans on making some of these features available, it would make giving up all of these features that a SA TiVo can offer much easier.

Thanks so much for reading this far and hearing me out. Hopefully someone can help me, as I really donít want to regret this decision down the line. Thanks againÖ

Gratefully,
-higuy83

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Re: HD TiVo or HD Rcvr+SA TiVo/DVDR?

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1) Buy an HD TiVo only (letís pretend that a $1000 purchase and the word only can be used in the same sentence.)
2) Buy a DirecTV HD Receiver (any equipment suggestions here?) and pair it with a SA TiVo unit (the Pioneer TiVo/DVD-R combo).



If you really really want remote scheduling, the SA TiVo is the only option for you. But I'm not sure you'll save much money going that route. The HD TiVo is $1,000. Assuming you can't get any new subscriber or loyal customer deals, I think the DTV HD recievers are going to be around $400. Add $450 to that for the SA TiVo with lifetime and you're almost all the way to the HD TiVo.

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- If I set the SA TiVo to always record at the highest quality setting, will I notice any downgrade in PQ between this #2 setup and my current DSR7000 (which obviously has no quality setting and always records at DirecTVís digital quality)?


There will be a noticable difference in quality. The DTiVo takes the digital stream and stores it. No loss of data. With the other setup, the box decodes it, sends it as analog to the TiVo, and the TiVo re-encodes it. I've had both a SA and a DTiVo (the HDTiVo actually) and I can definitely tell a difference.
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- Does anyone have any information regarding DirecTVís future adoption of Series2 features in their TiVo units (or, for that matter, even upgrading to TiVoís latest software release for the SA units)? If DTV plans on making some of these features available, it would make giving up all of these features that a SA TiVo can offer much easier.


Nobody has any official word. There are rumors that 4.x may be available for the DTiVos this year sometime, but it isn't clear if that includes the HDTiVos and it isn't clear if that would include any HMO functionality or just the core 4.x software.

My personal advice would be to get the HDTiVo. Previously, when forced to choose between live HD and recorded SD, recorded almost always won out, so I never got to watch much HD. Now that I have the HDTiVo, I'm watching a lot more HD stuff. That said, if remote scheduling and HMO are really important to you, don't get something hoping the features will be added later.

Basically, it's all about priorities and trade offs.

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I'd keep the SD DTiVo and get an HDTiVo as well. HDTiVo is true HD timeshifitng! A standalone DVD burner could always be added later to the DSR7000.

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A variant of Bigg's suggestion. Keep the DSR7000 for SD recordings and go for a non DVR HD receiver. If you did spend the $$$ for the HDTiVo, I'd still keep the DSR for SD recordings, no need to fill the HDTiVo with SD stuff.

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I had HD cable and never watched it. Time shifting for me is much more important than HD.

I say go for the HDTiVo.

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