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cktb2793 is offline Old Post 06-25-2004 09:19 AM
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Is this possible with a DirectTivo.......?

I just ordered DirectTV with 3 Tivos and I have a couple questions

1) Right now I have cable with their DVR. When I set it to record a certain show whenever it comes on, I have the option of telling it to only record first run shows (ie...no reruns) Will I still have this option on DirectTivo?

2) Also, when I tell their DVR to record a specific show all the time, I have the option of telling it to record every episode first run or repeat but I can tell it to only tape the show on a specific channel this keeps it from grabbing thousands of episodes of the show in syndication on other channels. Will I still have this option with DirectTivo?

3) I can also tell their DVR to only record a show at a specific time of the day whenever it is on. For instance, I have it recording Road Rules whenever it comes on at 10pm. Then it only gets recorded once per week instead of the 40 times the same episode plays on MTV since they don't ever say in the guide if it's first run or not. Will I still have this option with DirectTivo?

Thanks for any answers

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The Season Pass Manager that is part of the DirecTivo Menu System should be accomplish everything you are asking about. Of course the guide data has to be correct for it to wok properly but mistakes are pretty rare.

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Tivo invented all three of those features. By the sounds of it, you are going to love the Season Pass feature, because it handles all three of these issues flawlessly.

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Great!!! Thank you, those were the only things I was worried about when I decided to make the switch. Now I just can't wait for them to come.

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You'll love SP...

For most shows, the guide data will include info on the show. In that case, even though you tell it to record reruns, it would only record it once every 28 days. But not only from that same channel, but from others.

A good example is kids shows... Say 'Blues Clues'. It will pick it up from Nick JR east, west, Noggin, and CBS on Saturdays... But the guide data has info on the episode's name, so only those gets recorded...

Then you tell it to only keep the last 5, and that's what it would do...

My .02...

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Maybe I'm just not thinking right...but how would you accomplish exactly what the OP says in Option 3?

Obviously, you could manually record by time/channel. But I'm not sure how I'd set up an SP to record a specific show ONLY at a specific time.

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Maybe I'm just not thinking right...but how would you accomplish exactly what the OP says in Option 3?

Obviously, you could manually record by time/channel. But I'm not sure how I'd set up an SP to record a specific show ONLY at a specific time.



I was wondering the same thing. If a certain show comes on at 1pm, 5pm, 7pm and 9pm every day, how do you program a SP to JUST record the 7pm showing?

DTiVo's can handle this problem by keeping track of shows that have recorded in the past 30 days (or whatever) and not recording duplicates (unless you specify to record all including duplicates), but I don't know of a way to program the SP to record only the episode aired at a given time.

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A manual recording is the only way to record an episode at a particular time. This does become an entry on your season pass list. Also its important to know that a season pass is specific to channel while a wish list is not.

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The only way that comes close to doing case number 3 described by the OP is to program a manual recording at 10pm. The only problem is that it will record whatever is being aired at 10 even if one day it is not Road Rules.
Unfortunately, it is not possible to do it as requested but boy have I wished many times that it was possible too.

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The problem with MTV shows is bad guide data, Manual recording is the way to go with most of their shows. Although some of their newer shows have had better guide data.

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Now, for option 3, think about it for a second. TiVo is much smarter than these crappy DVRs.

If the guide data is correct, it will only record ONE singular eppisode of a show. For example, if they showed Road Rules:Eppisode 512 10 times a day, it will only record it once. You will only get one show for that day. This actually extends out 28 days, so if an eppisode appears and is recorded, then it will not be recorded again for 28 days.

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Now, for option 3, think about it for a second. TiVo is much smarter than these crappy DVRs.

If the guide data is correct, it will only record ONE singular eppisode of a show. For example, if they showed Road Rules:Eppisode 512 10 times a day, it will only record it once. You will only get one show for that day. This actually extends out 28 days, so if an eppisode appears and is recorded, then it will not be recorded again for 28 days.



The only problem is that Road Rules and Real World usually only have guide data the first time the episode is run and then after that it just says "reality series" but it never tells you if it's a rerun or not.

My cable PVR can be set to always record a specific show on a specific channel starting at a specific time on only a specific day of the week. If anything else plays on that day and time it just doesn't record. Can DirectTivo's really not do this???

Can I just tell the Tivo to ALWAYS tape MTV at a specific day of the week and time no matter what is on??? Boy I hope so or my box is going to get filled up with Road Rules and Real World and I'll have to use one box just for that.

MTV never changes their program start time and day so just telling it that one day and time wouldn't cause me to ever miss it.

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Can I just tell the Tivo to ALWAYS tape MTV at a specific day of the week and time no matter what is on? [/B]
Yes, you can tell the DTiVo to record MTV on Monday at 3pm, every Monday. (for example).

However you can't tell it to record MTV on Monday if and only if the Title = "Road Rules" at 4pm.

TiVo hasn't appeared to be very interested in adding additional code and features to deal with poor guide data. They have season passes and wishlists which work great for good guide data, and manual timed recording for everything else. Nothing in between.

Now this has never been a real problem for me since I record very few shows that consistently have guide problems, but I know that people who record a lot from Comedy Central and MTV would really like a middle ground. (Of course what they would really really like to good guide data )

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Glad to see that people agree with me that #3 isn't really possible (although there is a suitable workaround).

I was stumped as to how the OP's original question had been answered incorrectly and nobody on this forum had noticed for several hours. Usually somebody jumps right in and corrects it. I was wondering if I was missing something! And I've had Tivo for 4.5 years.

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Tivo invented all three of those features.


Patents on these inventions are held by ReplayTV, not Tivo. See http://www.campbells.org/Rant+Rave/...ivoPatents.html for details.

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Yes, you can tell the DTiVo to record MTV on Monday at 3pm, every Monday. (for example).

However you can't tell it to record MTV on Monday if and only if the Title = "Road Rules" at 4pm.

TiVo hasn't appeared to be very interested in adding additional code and features to deal with poor guide data. They have season passes and wishlists which work great for good guide data, and manual timed recording for everything else. Nothing in between.

Now this has never been a real problem for me since I record very few shows that consistently have guide problems, but I know that people who record a lot from Comedy Central and MTV would really like a middle ground. (Of course what they would really really like to good guide data )



Great, as long as I can at least tell it to tape the same time, day, and channel every week no matter what is on, I'm happy.

Thanks for the explanation.

(it is strange though, that the cable PVR that doesn't do half the stuff Tivo does can tell it do all that and also tell it to only do it if a specific show is on )

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There are a set of things that you can't do with a TiVo. Some are really annoying ... some aren't. But I'm not giving up my TiVos just yet. Things I'd like to be able to do:

1) Record using Dolby Digital as a qualifier.
2) Prefer one channel over another (Showtime vs Sho2).
3) and of course soft padding (in the UTV style).

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Re: Is this possible with a DirectTivo.......?

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Originally posted by cktb2793
I just ordered DirectTV with 3 Tivos and I have a couple questions

1) Right now I have cable with their DVR. When I set it to record a certain show whenever it comes on, I have the option of telling it to only record first run shows (ie...no reruns) Will I still have this option on DirectTivo?

2) Also, when I tell their DVR to record a specific show all the time, I have the option of telling it to record every episode first run or repeat but I can tell it to only tape the show on a specific channel this keeps it from grabbing thousands of episodes of the show in syndication on other channels. Will I still have this option with DirectTivo?



Yes, Season Pass does this well (as said). *As long as guide data is accurate and complete. Missing and incorrect data will cause SP to misfunction, recording multiple instances of the same program, re-runs, or every episode.
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3) I can also tell their DVR to only record a show at a specific time of the day whenever it is on. For instance, I have it recording Road Rules whenever it comes on at 10pm. Then it only gets recorded once per week instead of the 40 times the same episode plays on MTV since they don't ever say in the guide if it's first run or not. Will I still have this option with DirectTivo?

Thanks for any answers



Manual recording does this, as long as the program is on when the rcording is scheduled.

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