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>>> "Lifetime Subscription" on CC DTivo? No way! <<<

 
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jlin is offline Old Post 10-12-2001 06:13 AM
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Post "Lifetime Subscription" on CC DTivo? No way!

I bought one of the 'free' Philips DTV from Circuit City.

Personally I like to buy "Lifetime" subscription to many things but not this case.

First of all, I'm a new Tivo, concurrently using DISH's 501 PVR and ReplayTV. So I'm used to services that don't have monthly fees at all.

Secondly, I think one's better off putting the $250 into a good mutual fund or stock and see it grow over the next 25 months. I'm sure by the end of the 25 months, you'll have more money than right now.

Lastly, who knows if Tivo will still be around 25 months from now. Maybe there's another company offering similar or better service for lower price. So the monthly $10 deal is better way to subscribe to Tivo.

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Unless you buy 2 or more units, then the rest of them are free.

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It's so cool that currently there is a choice! I hate monthly fees, and jumped at the lifetime service. If you check out what Tivos on eBay are selling for, note the difference between those with lifetime service and those without...

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WAY! Come with the rest of us and play, because TiVo ROCKS! and it's here to stay....Everyone say AMEN $245 sound investment

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I'm not getting a lifetime sub. Here's why. After speaking with a knowledgeable rep at DirecTV (wasn't easy to find) I found out that the only way a lifetime sub is transferred to a new receiver is if it is replaced by the manufacturer. I'm pretty sure this discludes retailer's extended warranties. So when your receiver goes kaput, you lose the subscription, unless it's within the 90 day warranty.

If you invest the $249 in something with even minimal growth (5%), or better yet, knock $250 off your credit card bills, it will "pay" your monthly fees for about 27 months. If my primary receiver lasts that long, I'll be happy. I'm betting it won't.

The $99 yearly subscription was a good deal. So good that DirecTV discontinued it.

Rob

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I'm not getting a lifetime sub. Here's why. After speaking with a knowledgeable rep at DirecTV (wasn't easy to find) I found out that the only way a lifetime sub is transferred to a new receiver is if it is replaced by the manufacturer. I'm pretty sure this discludes retailer's extended warranties. So when your receiver goes kaput, you lose the subscription, unless it's within the 90 day warranty.




Actually, if the unit is replaced by any sort of authorized service provider/service plan, you can transfer the lifetime. This has always been tivo's policy.

I'm not sure about the 99/year, last I knew that was still available, but It may have been discontinued. Maybe you could call tivo to confirm.

You must always take what the DTV CSR's say with a grain of salt regarding tivos/tivo service. Most of them only know what the computer tells them when they enter something in wrong.

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I'm pretty sure this discludes retailer's extended warranties.


I'm not so sure that it does. Total cost of the Tivo with 5 year warranty $136 - $100 rebate + $250 Lifetime Service = $286 for a guaranteed 60 months of viewing, and possibly more.
I'll take the chance knowing if I decide to get a different model later it will hold some value unlike my $9.95 / month payment which would be gone.

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Actually, if the unit is replaced by any sort of authorized service provider/service plan, you can transfer the lifetime. This has always been tivo's policy.




Steve

Does TiVo have a list of authorized providers? Are self hacked receivers eligable? If this is the case, I'd consider a lifetime sub.

Rob

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Here is the math:

Monthly $9.95/month X 5 years = $597

Lifetime $250 + $25 Five Year Warranty= $275

Thats a $322 savings which is a 54% return on your money.

Can you get that with investing it?



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Here is the math:

Monthly $9.95/month X 5 years = $597

Lifetime $250 + $25 Five Year Warranty= $275

Thats a $322 savings which is a 54% return on your money.

Can you get that with investing it?





So where do I get the $25 5 year warranty? Does it have to be purchased with the unit?


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If you buy at Circuit City for the $99 price, you can get the 5 year warranty for 5 years. If you didn't buy when you first purchased, you can still add the 5 year warranty within 30 days of your purchase.

The extended warranty price is based on the price of the unit...I originally paid $89 for a 5 year warranty on my Sony T60's since they were $399 each.

No one would pay $89 for an extended warranty for a product that is $99, so they discount the price of the warranty as well as the unit.

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Cool

What's a better investment...renting your home or owning it?Ahhhh...I happily paid the $249

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So if I didn't buy at CC, where do I get an extended warranty?

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I don't think you can get an extended warranty from anywhere but where you purchased....and usually it's only offered by the large chain stores (Circuit City, Best Buy, etc).

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The policy of lifetime subscription being tied to the machine is tivo's policy, not directv's. I'm not certain who tivo considers to be authorized to replace a unit for service reasons, but Richard has made it clear in the past that if you take a unit back to the place of purchase and it is exchanged as defective, not repaired, the exchange qualifies as an authorized repair. He's also made it clear that this applies even after the tivo warranty expires. The posts I'm thinking of are probably at least a year old, but if you search the archives I'm sure you can find them.


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Will TIVO still let you convert to a Lifetime if you've already started an account with monthly? I really didn't think about the differences when I bought my unit last month.

Jeff

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Will TIVO still let you convert to a Lifetime if you've already started an account with monthly? I really didn't think about the differences when I bought my unit last month.

Jeff


Yep! In fact, I think they'll apply the last month's monthly fee towards the lifetime fee!


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Will TIVO still let you convert to a Lifetime if you've already started an account with monthly? I really didn't think about the differences when I bought my unit last month.

Jeff



I'm sure TiVo will be glad to accept your $250.
You can upgrade to lifetime anytime you wish.

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MY Problem with the "lifetime plan" is that I can't conceive of having the same TiVO unit in 18 months, let alone 5 years.

I'll admit it, I'm a gadget-aholic... and I'm sure that there'll be something newer, better, bigger, etc. in much less time than monthly fees=lifetime subscription.

Now, if the lifetime subscription could be moved to a new unit ....

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MY Problem with the "lifetime plan" is that I can't conceive of having the same TiVO unit in 18 months, let alone 5 years.

I'll admit it, I'm a gadget-aholic... and I'm sure that there'll be something newer, better, bigger, etc. in much less time than monthly fees=lifetime subscription.

Now, if the lifetime subscription could be moved to a new unit ....




Well, even if you decide to buy a "new and improved" model in the future (when they eventually come out), you can still keep lifetime as long as you keep the original active.

You could always put the unit with lifetime in another room on a different TV just to keep it active while you put the "new and improved" box in your main watching area.


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