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DrStrange is offline Old Post 06-25-2003 08:45 PM
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"They" != Tivo. "They" == Panasonic. Panasonic != Pioneer.

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Does this new Pioneer write DVD compliant discs I can play on another DVD player? Or just this one?

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quote:
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Does this new Pioneer write DVD compliant discs I can play on another DVD player? Or just this one?


Excellent question that I want answered as well. Not only will it be compliant on another DVD player, but will it have a built in menu that will be compliant and functioning for every item recorded on it as well.

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The DVR-810H and DVR-57H will be available in the fall 2003 with a manufacturer's suggested retail price of $1,199 and $1,800 respectively.



This is exactly what I was talking about in another thread. This is a significantly higher price than a similar hardware. Yes, you're getting a larger hard disk in these but who here would pay $500 for 40GB more HD? The benefit the $500 buys is the software. As a consumer, and a TiVo-holic, there is NO WAY I'd buy the TiVo enabled device over the non-tivo device.

I hope it works out for TiVo and Pioneer to price these things so high. As for me, I'll be keeping that extra $600. Actually, since I have DirecTV, I could buy a DVD Recorder w/out hard drive for $600, an HDVR2 for less than $200 and then dedicate the DTiVo exclusively for saving content to DVD. I'd then have more than $400 left over, and I'd have full TiVo service instead of TiVo Basic.

It doesn't seem to make very much economic sense to me. Am I missing something?

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quote:
Originally posted by spankspank
Does this new Pioneer write DVD compliant discs I can play on another DVD player? Or just this one?


If people only read what was posted

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The newly created DVD-R disc can be played back on most other automobile, home, portable DVD players and DVD-ROM computer drives.

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Let me rephrase my question then:

Does this new Pioneer write DVD compliant discs of TV shows I can play on another DVD player?

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quote:
Originally posted by spankspank
Let me rephrase my question then:

Does this new Pioneer write DVD compliant discs of TV shows I can play on another DVD player?



You're kidding, right?

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Both DVD recorders come equipped with a 181-channel cable TV tuner for instant one-touch recording to the hard drive. Once the content is stored on the hard drive, consumers can transfer the content on to a DVD-R/RW disc and navigate the DVD menus using the friendly TiVo interface.

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The rephrased question looks an awful lot like the original question, and seems to be just as well answered. What part of "can be played back on most other automobile, home, portable DVD players" isn't clear?

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Re: Pioneer DVD Recorder with TiVo

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The DVR-810H and DVR-57H offer analog inputs, enabling consumers to connect a camcorder to the DVD recorder for basic transferring functions.

So there's no DV input from digital camcorders?

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Yes, it is Pioneer, not Panasonic.

Yes, these products will support the Home Media Option when running the Full TiVo service, but there may be some limitations around Multi-Room Viewing because the Pioneer recorders have new Audio/Video formats and bitrates in order to be DVD compliant. Look for a new "Extreme" video recording quality.

Yes, the DVDs that are created will play in standard DVD players.

The higher-end model is part of Pioneers "Elite" line of products. I can't tell you all of the differences between the products. A Pioneer spokesperson should probably chime in there to explain how these new models fit into their product lines.

These are Pioneer products. Pioneer makes final decisions around features and functionality with input from TiVo. Pioneer makes all decisions around capacity, pricing, manufacturing volume, distribution, marketing, etc.

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I wonder if the units will also support an external cable box like current TiVo units do since I don't think the internal 181 channel tuner will work on all digital cable systems. Something I'll have to look into when I can put my hands on the product

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This sounds like one cool TiVo, but the price is pretty far out there. It's a high-end device after all, and I'm sure it'll attract a number of home theater buyers. I'd really like one, but I have a new laptop on order with a DVD recorder, and that'll work just fine with video capture and my existing TiVos.

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quote:
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Look for a new "Extreme" video recording quality.
Mmmm...Extreme video quality....

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Thanks for the clarification.
From the press release, DVD compliance is stated under "Create New Home Movies" heading. This would not be the most typical source to archive to DVD, TV programs would be. I just wanted to make sure this wasn't somehow different given it's copywrited nature. Fair question?

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The rephrased question looks an awful lot like the original question, and seems to be just as well answered. What part of "can be played back on most other automobile, home, portable DVD players" isn't clear?

I think I know where he's coming from. The "played back on most ..." quote comes under the "Create New Home Movies" (from, so far, analog inputs) part of the article so yes your home movie DVDs will play on other players, but no (specific) mention if recorded tv shows will play on other players.

If the tv DVDs were only playable on the TiVo that recorded them it would prevent you sending a season of the Sopranos to your buddy without HBO.

I'm not saying this is how it works, just that I can see how some confusion could happen. Had the "played back on most ..." quote come at the top of the article (and thus encompassing everything below it) it would have been clearer.

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I would pay $800 for the 80GB model or $1000 for the 120GB model.

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quote:
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Look for a new "Extreme" video recording quality.

I assume it will be spelled "X-treme" or something and be written in a blocky, fractured font that looks like it's had eight cups of coffee. Cause that's TRENDY.

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Cool! A glossy black heavily built TiVo!

Oh yeah and DVD recording too!

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