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bedelman is offline Old Post 06-26-2003 03:55 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by MediaLivingRoom
Can add HMO to TiVo Basic?


I think that once TiVo Basic is upgraded to the regular TiVo mode that HMO can be added to it at that time. From what I've read TiVo Basic is very basic and it's unlikely that HMO could be added directly to it.

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Pony, see what happens when you tease but don't give any details. I just bought a DVD Recorder Monday!!!

Although, with my refurbished 60 hour tivo at $150 and my DVD recorder at $450, i'm happier with that $600 than the (+/-) $1200 for this box.

It does sound very cool though.

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quote:
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Look for a new "Extreme" video recording quality.



What is this?

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quote:
Originally posted by MediaLivingRoom Can add HMO to TiVo Basic?


You must first upgrade to the full TiVo service before you can add HMO.

quote:
Originally posted by MediaLivingRoom What is this?


It's an additional quality level, above Best, that records at a bitrate so high it requires an entire 4.7GB disk for just one hour of video.

Dan

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Re: Pioneer DVD Recorder with TiVo

I think I presold one of these to one of my friends over lunch today. This is the first TiVo I've (pre)sold to a friend before seeing it myself

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This definitely sounds like an awesome machine. The only thing keeping me from being presold is that massive pricetag.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dan203
The only thing keeping me from being presold is that massive pricetag.

Dan




Yeah, all that cool DVD recording electronic booty is like what, as much as only 2 or 3 iPOD's?

If it were

A - Dual tuner working with DirecTV (unlikely)
B - Could archive off PPV (HIGHLY unlikely)
C - Could play the DVD's in any other player in the house (impossible)

I'd sell my children for it... No... wait... I already sold 'em for the 3 TiVo's I got now.


Anybody got any spare kids?

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In the "don't assume anything" department, will these units control a cable or satellite box like any other SA TiVo, or do they only record from their built-in tuner?

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quote:
Originally posted by Dan203
It's an additional quality level, above Best, that records at a bitrate so high it requires an entire 4.7GB disk for just one hour of video.



I think it replaces Best...it's not an additional quality level.

quote:
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All four recording qualities have been modified to be DVD compliant. The Best quality was improved significantly enough to be renamed.

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Sounds nice but pricey. I wonder why they didn't go with a combo DVDR though since it sounds like DVD+RW would be perfect for this application. I know that Pioneer is the flag-bearer for DVD-R/RW but they just recently introduced a combo unit themselves.

So does this unit support 2X or 4X recording? The ability to dump an hour show to DVD-R in less than 15 minutes would be pretty tempting.

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It seems a little backward... so far none of the DVD recorder/HDD machines, that I'm aware of, has a channel changer for digital cable boxes.
Having to leave the box on the channel for recording, is going back about 18 years to the first VCRs.
Shouldn't we expect a digital recorder to efficiently record from a digital cable box?

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quote:
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C - Could play the DVD's in any other player in the house (impossible)



I thought this was already cleared up...the unit will allow you to play in any dvd player (that can read DVD-R's.)

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quote:
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In the "don't assume anything" department, will these units control a cable or satellite box like any other SA TiVo, or do they only record from their built-in tuner?


Of course they can! They're TiVo's.

Pretty much the same functionality as a normal standalone.

But not exactly the same. This one has some additional stuff. Just a little here, a little there...

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I had assumed "basic" was Tivo service without HMO, but the article says: "....Both will include the TiVo basic service, which does not require a monthly fee for the DVR service but does allow consumers to upgrade to the full TiVo service so they can access a 14-day program guide among other features...."

OK, what is meant by "Basic Service" and what is "Full Tivo Service"?

http://www.msnbc.com/news/931232.asp?0cv=CB20

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MikeCG, TiVo Basic Service is free, has 3 days of guide data, and that's about it. No season passes, wishlists, etc. Probably a To Do List though. The "full" service is what we're used to... if you want HMO features, you apparently will need to upgrade to the full service first.

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For what it's worth, expect street prices to be substantially less than these list prices. For comparison, the Pioneer Elite DVR-7000 has an MSRP of US$2000, but sells at many places for less than half that. Crazy Eddie has it for US$841.95!

So I would imagine that these would street for more like US$800 and US$1100 or so at first, and fall a bit after some months.

Also, this will be Pioneer's first non-elite DVD recorder. The elite models all have expensive (bogus?) electronic enhancements over the normal models. I love my non-Elite Pioneer DVD player, and would love to replace it with this!

BUT I want to be able to edit shows, and HMO my Series 2 shows to the Pioneer for DVD recording...

Ped Xing

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TiVo/DVD Recorder announced!!!

Hmmmm...lots of people were skeptical about this happening in this forum. Read the full announcement on MSNBC.com.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/931232.asp?0cv=CB20

Pioneer is first with Sony and Toshiba not far behind...

Sign me up!

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