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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Queens, New York
Originally posted by Ereth
Raj, I'm confused on the timeline here. You've said, several times, that you bought a first generation DVD+R burner, that you were promised would upgrade to DVD+RW, and that you couldn't play discs burned in that in your DVD player. That must've been a couple years ago, at least, to be first generation.
I bought a first generation +RW burner with my DELL system. These came out in late 2001, early 2002. It could only burn rewriteable discs. I burnt rewriteable discs, they played in my older Philips player (which my mom now has) but refused to play in my new Panasonic. I was told that the write once +R format would have better compatibility. I'm a sucker, I believed them, that's why I did this:
NOW, you bought a Centrino based laptop, which has only existed for a few months, with a DVD+RW burner and discovered (again?) that your DVD player won't play them? Why didn't you remember that from when you sold your original DVD+ burner?
Yes, because this +RW burner had the capability to burn write once discs, which I didn't have the capability to do before (first gen drive couldn't write +R discs). I was assured by practically everyone that they'd be compatible with many DVD players, and I was assured by many people that my DVD player would play it. Well, they lied, or at least, they were wrong. My DVD player refused to play the +R format discs.
You must be more impatient than I. I usually don't play DVDs in my PS2, since I have a DVD player, but I've used it for testing purposes of burned DVDs, and I put the DVD in and it plays. If there's a second or two of hesitation, I would never notice, as its playing before I get back to the sofa to sit down and watch it.
It's not a matter of impatience really, I could live with the few seconds more of delay, but it does indicate (to me at least) that there is something about the disc that the PS2 doesn't like.
And you can find the Press Release where they state this.. where? Or is it pure supposition on your (admittedly biased) part? MY supposition is that Sony figured there was a market for people like me, who were tired of this stupid format war going on and on and wouldn't jump in until the format had been settled. I refused to even consider a DVD burner until they had decided on one format or the other. I changed my mind when the dual format came out. Then I got the standalone and have been in the + camp ever since, but I would never have gotten there if there hadn't been a dual format burner to lure me in in the first place.
No press release really, but Sony has been using DVD-R/DVD-RW drives in Sony VAIO desktops and notebooks. It has not gone completely +R/+RW, instead opting for combo drives in its units. If Sony were truly backing the +RW/+R format like Philips is, they'd drop DVD-R and DVD-RW completely from their desktops and notebook PC's.
hat would be the point? We already know your player won't play them. By the way, there are MANY players listed on those master lists that will play DVD+ but not DVD-. (the particular unit my sister has is one, IIRC). I imagine the compatibility issues are fairly close to even.
Master list obtained from where? According to summaries of actual independent user testimonials, like from dvdrhelp.com, DVD-R is more compatible. Slightly more compatible, but more compatible. In the end, that's what counts in terms of compatibility, actual users, not lab tests from marketing companies (paid by the +RW alliance).
Read my post where I tell you what I'm doing TODAY, with my DVD+RW that DVD-R cannot do and has no plans to ever do as far as I know. How is that "delivering what DVD+ only promises?". I can do it, right now, anytime I want, with DVD+RW, but cannot, with any player available, with DVD-RW. Seems to me that + format delivers.
But Ereth, you can do what you are doing TODAY with DVD-RW, like edit menus and commercials on the fly. Ulead Moviefactory 2 has this capability for both DVD-RW and +RW.
+RW doesn't hold a monopoly on that technology like the +RW alliance would have you believe.
Don't believe me?
"Edit your +RW and -RW DVDs again and again "
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I'm noticing more and more how my life is beginning to mirror Raj's....YIKES!! --disco
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