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bedelman is offline Old Post 11-24-2003 11:40 PM
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http://research.tivo.com/suggestions/ is the "official' enhancement suggestion mechanism.


Thanks, it has been posted.

The nature of the enhancement suggestion is to allow a Series 2 to have a different mode setting whereby recordings made on a Series 2 can be recorded to DVD if they get transferred to a Pioneer unit.

If nothing else, a recording made on a Pioneer that is sent to a Series 2 and back to a Pioneer should still be able to be recorded to DVD. Right now, the "block" is on anything coming from a Series 2 regardless of where the program originated.

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I have a theory, but don't have the equipment to test it out. For the sake of testing this theory, one would have to have a normal Series2, two 810s, have used HMO to transfer a recording from one to the other, and have successfully burned the transferred video to DVD.

So here goes...

If you record a video on the 810, then transfer it to a normal Series2 and back again, the 810 believes it cannot record to DVD because it originated from the normal Series2. QED.

HOWEVER....

If you transfer it from the 810 to a Series2, back to the 810, then to ANOTHER 810, will it record? The second 810 might no longer be confused, seeing as the video was transfered from an 810.

If this works...

Then RECORD a video on a standard Series2, transfer it to an 810, then transfer it to another 810. Does the second 810 then believe it is recordable? If so, does it play back in a DVD player other than the 810?

The theory?

That there isn't a difference in recording format, or perhaps not a large one (it's close but not perfect?). TiVo simply wishes to not get into technical support hassles dealing with the occasional DVD video that wouldn't play. But that transferred videos WILL work on a DVD most of the time.

Any thoughts?

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I have a suspicion that it may not allow you to burn any transferred recording, even if it is from another 810 or a 57H.

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I have a suspicion that it may not allow you to burn any transferred recording, even if it is from another 810 or a 57H.


The behavior we are all seeing is consistent with what the manual says on page 42:
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Programs transferred to the Recorder from a different kind of TiVo DVR (e.g., using Home Media Option), may not be copied to DVD.

So programs HMO'd from a non-DVD recorder can't be stored to DVD regardless of their origin. Following this logic, programs HMO'd from another 810 MAY be able to record to DVD regardless of what TiVo recorded them. The documentation says nothing about the video formats being incompatible.

Do we even know for a fact (other than the "video and audio formats are incompatible" quote on the TiVo screen) that there really is a difference? Has any knowledgable TiVo rep confirmed this?

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Is the component video output noticably better than Svideo on the 810?

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Red face Whoa!!! THANKS!!!

Wow! Thanks everyone!!!

I was within five minutes of ordering a DVR810HS on-line and decided to make a quick pass through the forum to make sure there weren't going to be any surprises.

I have an unmodified Series II stand-alone Tivo that has some programs I'd like to archive in a high quality format. I've been looking for a clean way that didn't require buying a high end consumer or low end pro video capture card or hacking my Tivo. I thought the DVR810HS and HMO were going to be the answer. Apparently not. Now that would have been an unpleasant surprise.

Probably a deal breaker. Someone I know that owns an DVR810 told me the DVD-R's it writes look about like the original recordings. Does any one know if DVD-R's made with files from a high end consumer video capture card are of similar quality?

Thanks again! If it weren't for this forum I would have been one unhappy consumer about a week from now.

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