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>>> Go ahead and get the $99 HD deal from DirecTV? <<<

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Gromit is offline Old Post 01-20-2004 08:39 PM
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Go ahead and get the $99 HD deal from DirecTV?

I'm wondering if I should go ahead and try to get the $99 HD deal from DirecTV. If they let me do it, it would be $450+ on my credit card, but my DirecTV account would be credited all but $99 of it.

I could have HD TV by this weekend and everything would be ready for the HD TiVo when it gets here. I didn't realize that the non-PVR receivers will do OTA signals as well.

Considering that I could later sell the receiver, I'm thinking this might be a no-brainer. Any catches that I've missed?

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It's a no-brainer to me. I did it when it was $399 (but they also gave me a $200 programming credit. You will be all set to go, and will be able to enjoy HD before your HD-TiVo comes. If you chose to do so, you could sell the receiver for more than you paid.

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Just the 1 year commitment to Total Choice & HD package that they always stick you with, and the hassle of actually selling it.

You may also be using up a few "retention points" used to get deals from DirecTV, but that's sometimes a bit of an unknown.

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I don't mind committing to the HD package, I was going to get that anyway (I'll want HD-ESPN for more than a year).

I've never taken advantage of any DirecTV deals in the past. I'm not sure if I've been with them for 2 years though. Some people are getting the $99 deal anyway, others are getting it for $200.

Apparently they even give you an OTA antenna, but it's a Winegard GS-1000. I don't think that's going to help me (UHF/VHF 0-25 miles). I wonder if you can pay more for a better antenna? I like the idea of an installer setting up my OTA stuff too.

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Thumbs up

It really is a no brainer from an equipment standpoint. Dealing with the install guys is another question.

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can you provide a link to the deal you are talking about? I can't find anthing other than the $399 normal price.
http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/imagine/HDTV.dsp

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There is no link, as it's not a public offer. It is given to you on discretion from Customer Retention.

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From avsforum, you have to have been a customer in good standing for 2 years and spend at least $50/month on programming to qualify. There is an 800 number to call on avsforum to contact the department that can do this.

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quote:
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Just the 1 year commitment to Total Choice & HD package that they always stick you with, and the hassle of actually selling it.

You may also be using up a few "retention points" used to get deals from DirecTV, but that's sometimes a bit of an unknown.



The 'other' thing to consider is the big unknown when it comes to what kind of deals D* may offer when the HDTiVo comes out. If you just signed up for the normal HD package, they may be less than willing to cut you a deal on the new TiVo. Of course, speculation abounds because there is no guarantee that D* will offer any discounts/offers with the unit (for the first months anyway). Something else to consider though....

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quote:
Originally posted by Gromit
I don't mind committing to the HD package, I was going to get that anyway (I'll want HD-ESPN for more than a year).

I've never taken advantage of any DirecTV deals in the past. I'm not sure if I've been with them for 2 years though. Some people are getting the $99 deal anyway, others are getting it for $200.

Apparently they even give you an OTA antenna, but it's a Winegard GS-1000. I don't think that's going to help me (UHF/VHF 0-25 miles). I wonder if you can pay more for a better antenna? I like the idea of an installer setting up my OTA stuff too.



D* Installed this Winegard antenna on my house and I am 25.7 miles form the tower and get a 88%-100% signal on ALL stations. It worked great for me.

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The 'other' thing to consider is the big unknown when it comes to what kind of deals D* may offer when the HDTiVo comes out.


I think that's what it's about for me too.... other than the minor problem that I've yet to committ to and purchase an HD TV.

But even though my 32" is barely 1 year old, I'm jones'n for HDTV. The only thing holding me back is waiting for the DirecTV HDTiVo.

Well, there is that other, GF thing...

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do you have a link into the AVSForum or the thread title? I have been searching and have not come across the number yet?

found it:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/show...ghlight=HDTV%20$99&pagenumber=4

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D* Installed this Winegard antenna on my house and I am 25.7 miles form the tower and get a 88%-100% signal on ALL stations. It worked great for me.


Wow. Maybe I'll get lucky, but I figured I was going to need a big, amplified antenna. All of the stations I'm interested in are 'blue' other than CBS which is 'violet' (according to antennaweb.org).

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I'm on the phone with DirecTV now. No problems getting the $99 deal (2 years and 6 days, barely made it). They don't offer any kind of OTA antenna, but if I have an antenna I can probably get the install tech to put it up for me. They are recommending a Terk antenna and implied that this is what I would get if an antenna was included (apparently it is in some areas). I don't think I want to go with the Terk, so I need to find an antenna, preferrably in the Atlanta area so I can return it if I need to.

I also got Showtime free for 6 months. They're coming out on 1/26 to do the install (6 days).

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Oh yeah, $445.15 charged to my credit card, $324.95 credited to my account.

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Where are you Gromit? I'm right above the "r" in "Inman Park" on this map of Atlanta DTV towers. Kind of a difficult spot, as the towers are all around me, yet antennaweb says I need a medium directional (presumably to fight multipath). I ended up getting the Winegard PR4400 for the UHF stations, and the Winegard PR7210 for VHF. The PR7210 was kinda pricey, but it seemed to be considered one of, if not the best VHF antennas for multipath issues. With Ch. 11 and Ch. 8 (10 and 12 digitally, respectively) both in the same direction from me, getting them via a good VHF antenna seemed like it should be quite easy (I'm ignoring the UHF portion of this antenna, and filtering it out via a VHF/UHF combiner). UHF I was much more concerned with, since those stations come from a wide range of angles all around me. The PR4400 seemed to have a good reception pattern for my use, and was quite a bit cheaper than the ChannelMaster equivalent (4228?).

Surprisingly, VHF has been very difficult for me. Of course, PBS here has been getting put off & put off, so I don't know yet how I'll do with Ch 8, but Ch. 11 (NBC) is barely watchable... with my signal bouncing between the 30s & 60s, so it pixelates quite a bit. I have my antenna on top of a 10' mast from the peak of my roof, pointed directly at Ch 11's tower (being only 1/4 mile away, all I have to do is get up there, look at the tower, and aim right for it). The UHF channels, however, are quite good. I have the PR4400 aimed directly north, and I get ALL the channels pegged at 100, EXCEPT for UPN, which is also only about 1/4 mile away, but behind me. That I don't get AT ALL. I also don't get PAX up near Acworth, or Rome, but not concerned about that.

If you are out in the burbs, it should be much easier, as they are all probably pretty much in the same direction.

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I should change my location in my profile. I'm actually in Kennesaw. I'm starting to realize that being outside the perimeter may be better. All of the towers I need to get are at 140-147 degrees, 25 miles away.

How does OTA HD signal strength compare to regular OTA signals? A friend of mine has an antenna in his attic from the days before you could get locals off the dish. He said he never was able to get good reception for normal OTA TV. I was hoping that HD is more of an "all or nothing" thing.

If I can find one locally, I may try to get a cheaper antenna that attaches to the dish somehow. I guess it couldn't hurt to try. I'm expecting the worst but Mr Pieces' post makes me wonder if I could get by with something smaller than a 4' antenna in my attic or on the roof.

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I only have it hooked up to my Saumsung SIR-T160 HD receiver. I don't know how good of an NTSC tuner that has, but I wouldn't consider ANY of my analog OTA channels to be "good", even though I'm quite close to most of those towers. I was actually quite surprised by this. MOST are watchable, but some aren't even that (I'd have to pay more attention to give you more detail... between getting them digitally, via DirecTV, AND via cable, it wasn't an issue to me). I'd be pretty skeptical of those dish mounted antennas. Especially since your dish is going to be pointing SW, while the Atlanta towers are mostly SE from you. I would think a decent combo UHF/VHF antenna, even if mounted in the attic, would perform much better. Radio Shack has a big selection, and you can even find a couple of models at Home Depot.

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I am tempted by this deal (in fact, I was tempted when it cost $399 - still several hundred dollars less than prevailing prices for HDTV receivers.)

However, remembering the difference DTiVo made in the quality of my "TV viewing experience," I really am not willing to go back to a TiVo-less existence, no matter how hi-def the picture might be.

It appears that the HDTiVos will be here in a matter of weeks. Initially they are supposed to cost $1000, but my guess is that by year end (if not sooner) they will be available for $500 or less, especially if DTV subsidizes them the way they do DTiVos. If that happened the HD receiver would head for the closet pretty fast.

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I have an HDTiVo pre-order in, this is just to "hold me" until it arrives.

Actually my plan is to sell this receiver once my HD TiVo arrives. By that time, I'll have everything wired and ready to go. Hopefully I'll be able to get some of the HD TiVo money back by selling this receiver for more than $100 on eBay.

Darin: Your situation has me worried. Most of my HD programming will be from the local channels. If I can't get a good HD picture from my locals, I'll probably sell all of this stuff and just go back to regular DirecTiVo.

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