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dswallow is offline Old Post 04-02-2004 10:40 PM
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By the looks of it adding a second drive could be tricky, if that is the final design!

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I'm ignorant on TiVo drive-adding (first TiVo for me!), but from an engineering/PC POV, could you stack them? Or would that be too much heat in one place?

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quote:
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By the looks of it adding a second drive could be tricky, if that is the final design!


Yeah, an easy way to add a USB2.0 external would be the ticket -- or maybe a little card that was IDE to USB2.0 or FireWire, allowing an external drive to APPEAR as the 2nd internal drive.

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Hard to tell, but a second drive may stack on top of the first.

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I'm leaning to putting the second drive in an external case. Then the heat is outta the way for sure. Just gotta be sure the connectors will reach.

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It looks like the black coax cables might also be upgraded fairly easily. Can't tell for sure but it appears they simply plug in opposed to being soldered.

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quote:
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Yeah, an easy way to add a USB2.0 external would be the ticket -- or maybe a little card that was IDE to USB2.0 or FireWire, allowing an external drive to APPEAR as the 2nd internal drive.


Not as easy as it sounds...

For one you would have to worry about when the external drive loses power or connectivity, while the primary unit is still powered up.

What if it was recording to that outside drive at that time?...
ect..

It would be good, but I can't see it happening.

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Probably not surprising, but the layout is entirely different from my standalone Series 2.

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I would personally be worried about putting a 2nd one in due to heat.. Every HD receiver I've ever seen has put out a good amount of heat.

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Not as easy as it sounds...

For one you would have to worry about when the external drive loses power or connectivity, while the primary unit is still powered up.

What if it was recording to that outside drive at that time?...
ect..

It would be good, but I can't see it happening.



I use a UPS anyway.

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I stacked my HDVR2's 2nd drive, with just a pencil stuck between them so they were not flush together. I also never fully closed the case either, rather just sat it on top so that any heat could rise out easier. It never gets moved sitting on the rack so I dont worry about things moving around....

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I like the external ide idea. REplace the ide cable that came with the tivo with a new longer one and some how fish the cable out of the unit and hook up your additional drive externaly. For power use an old computer power supply that you have laying around, I got about 3 or 4.

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You could probably fish a power cable out the back just as easily (or easier) than the IDE cable.

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You could probably fish a power cable out the back just as easily (or easier) than the IDE cable.


But since the higher speed datapaths and extra tuners suck more power, and the Power Supply doesn't look much bigger, there may not be enough for two drives.

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By the looks of it adding a second drive could be tricky, if that is the final design!


Might not be; we don't have a unit here yet, but we may be able to repurpose our existing add-on drive bracket by rotating it 90 degrees. Tough to tell from the photos though; we are still awaiting our pre-order units...

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"For one you would have to worry about when the external drive loses power or connectivity"

I use a UPS anyway.

What good would a UPS do, when an external drive gets physically unplugged? USB is a hot pluggable bus, devices can go away at any time.

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doug- where'd ya get these?
I woke up today and there they were in my Inbox, mysteriously appearing out of the internet ether.

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I woke up today and there they were in my Inbox, mysteriously appearing out of the internet ether.


Right. I almost believe that. Annonymity is often a neccesity to post this kind of thing and I can respect that.

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